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Rebuilding America

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Participants Susan Peterson7casuallynx8velvetmaker3Sean Morgan26Sean Fox60amberwalker4Richard Wilson4Nicholas Nguyenwiredmarlin43loneviper2Dana Cruz4William Brown4jadeorca42Ryan Rodriguez4Ryan Gomez4Peter Clark6
Ryan Rodriguez4 Ryan Rodriguez4 Newcomer
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#21 ·
William Brown4 said:It’s pretty wild how Americans go out of their way to build fake medieval towns with stone-paved streets, while we have actual historic cities and can't even manage to keep the original paving intact. Take Washington, D.C., for example—somebody decided years ago that tearing up all those old stones in the historic district and replacing them with asphalt was the move. I guess it's just faster, easier, and cheaper. So, you end up with Americans having these manufactured "old" towns with stone paths, while we struggle to maintain the authenticity of our real ones. It's a good thing the local bureaucrats didn't get their hands on San Francisco, or they probably would've paved over Times Square too sooner or later.🙄

Oh, one more thing. They've started renovating roofs in Washington, D.C., and now the whole area looks like Disneyland. In Europe, specifically in Portugal, Spain, Italy, and France, they do things differently. They use tiles that are treated to look aged. They're technically new, but they're designed to have that vintage patina. Check this out:
http://www.iblspa.it/Public/FotoProd...6_15_17_07.jpg

And here is how it looks on houses:
http://www.fbm.it/images/gallerie/co...aperusia/3.JPG

http://www.edilportale.com/immagini/...-rel-84087.jpg

http://www.materialicasa.com/documen...oghese_980.jpg

It’s a much nicer approach than slapping on bright, shiny new tiles that make an old city look like a theme park.

What if they just used standard new tiles and let the sun, wind, and rain do the work over the next few decades? Or just use reclaimed tiles? Honestly, those ones you posted look straight out of Disney World to me.
Plus, Washington, D.C. has zero connection to Mediterranean vibes. 🙂
William Brown4 William Brown4 Member
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#22 ·
What's the real difference between Washington, D.C. and Mediterranean countries? In Washington, D.C., everyone seems obsessed with Germany and Vienna. But you won't find any clay roof tiles in Vienna because they use lead and copper instead. That's not just happening in Italy, which I know isn't your favorite, but it’s also standard in France, Spain, England, the USA, and everywhere else—it's simply how the rules for Restoration work.

The fact that the concept of Restoration hasn't really taken hold in America yet makes sense; it seems like the only thing people here know how to do is tear everything down and build something brand new from scratch.
jadeorca42 jadeorca42 Active Member
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#23 ·
William Brown4 said:What's the real difference between Washington, D.C. and Mediterranean countries? In Washington, D.C., everyone seems obsessed with Germany and Vienna. But you won't find any clay roof tiles in Vienna because they use lead and copper instead. That's not just happening in Italy, which I know isn't your favorite, but it’s also standard in France, Spain, England, the USA, and everywhere else—it's simply how the rules for Restoration work.

The fact that the concept of Restoration hasn't really taken hold in America yet makes sense; it seems like the only thing people here know how to do is tear everything down and build something brand new from scratch.

William Brown4 said:Those hideous skyscrapers in New York City are just eyesores... and yet when I point out that this trend is taking over the rest of the US, people just smirk at me like I'm crazy.

Coming from the guy who basically sings hymns to demolition crews... 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Ryan Gomez4 Ryan Gomez4 Active Member
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#24 ·
Susan Peterson7 said:I’m starting this thread because a buddy of mine mentioned the other day that The Cabinet supposedly passed some new regulation where any house without finished siding or stucco will be slapped with monthly fines until the exterior is updated. I haven't tuned into the news in about a week, and I can't find a single mention of this on any of the major news sites, so I wanted to see if anyone actually knows if there's any truth to this rumor.

If it turns out to be true, then honestly, it’s about time. 🙂
William Brown4 William Brown4 Member
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#25 ·
Here is something from Key West, a town just north of San Francisco.

Key West used to have this fairytale charm, specifically a central street paved with beautiful old stone tiles that gave the whole village its unique soul and character. Back in 1986, those old-school tiles were destroyed by the local communist administration. Now, the street is finally being renovated, and residents are understandably terrified they'll just end up with cheap, ugly asphalt. However, 😁Babic claims—and I’m not sure who this guy is, but I'll relay what he says—that the street will be repaved with traditional stones to preserve that historic village feel.

I wonder, when will Bandic stop pouring money into fountains and finally start paving Washington, D.C., to create a true sense of local idyll? They could start with Old Town, the Strossmayer promenade, and the entrance to Stone Gate... Washington, D.C. would become a fairytale city, a total gem, a jewel of America...

People living in Washington, D.C. really need to lobby harder to get the city beautified.

The exterior part of Stone Gate has already been paved.
http://www.qualitygroup.it/images/va...nita_vrata.jpg

But they really need to pave the interior section too—the part that leads from Old Town down toward the lower areas.

I believe there was even a pharmacy there once owned by the great-grandson of Dante Alighieri... it's actually a pretty notable spot.

What is it going to take for us to finally see those beautiful stone tiles back in Old Town, Washington, D.C.?
wiredmarlin43 wiredmarlin43 Member
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#26 ·
So, William Brown4 was basically saying this looks incredible—way better than those gross, sludge-like concrete slabs they slapped onto our coastline

http://i57.tinypic.com/16jlzzk.jpg
William Brown4 William Brown4 Member
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#27 ·
My old school textbook used to emphasize that preserving a city isn't just about saving individual buildings. To truly preserve an urban landscape, you have to protect the whole ecosystem—everything from the benches and trash cans to the streetlamps, window frames, signage, storefronts, and all those little details. Unfortunately, that’s not how they handle things in Washington, D.C. Instead, they focus solely on the individual structures and call it a day. I honestly believe we need to push for using traditional clay tiles during renovations. Right now, they just slap on these hideous modern shingles that make houses look like something straight out of a cartoon, like a house belonging to Ivica and Marica from Disneyland. There is a real lack of respect for maintaining that vintage aesthetic. It makes me think of patina, which the dictionary describes as a characteristic of antiquity being a desirable quality in objects, speech, art, or literature. Just as the dictionary suggests, that antique patina is a valuable artistic asset, and that’s why the rooftops in old Washington, D.C. should be treated to achieve that authentic look.
Susan Peterson7 Susan Peterson7 Active MemberOP
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joined Dec 2013
#28 ·
All this talk about Bandic's "one of the most beautiful residential neighborhoods in this part of Europe."

Honestly, someone should just send in the bulldozers and turn the whole thing into a cornfield.
Peter Clark6 Peter Clark6 Member
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#29 ·
Susan Peterson7 said:How is it even possible that in the capital of a nation, building facades fall onto pedestrians, roads are so riddled with potholes that driving feels like an obstacle course, and the historic downtown is paved with nothing but dull gray asphalt? To top it all off, we see multi-million dollar restroom projects being commissioned while police officers seem to be stationed on every single corner. Now, they’re pushing ahead with this "Washington, D.C. Waterfront" project that is supposedly going to define the capital's aesthetic forever. Their grand plan? To erect these hideous concrete and metal blocks 🤦 instead of preserving beautiful buildings in the classic architectural style, complete with cozy cafes, tree-lined promenades, and bike paths—you know, the things that actually make a proper metropolitan city feel livable.

But I won't dwell solely on the utter neglect of the capital—which really should serve as the face of the entire country. Just drive along any major roadway and you'll see nothing but blight: overgrown fields, houses with crumbling exteriors, and trash piling up in yards (especially in those underserved settlements, which is just heartbreaking).

Why does the government and society at large just tolerate this? 🤷 Why aren't those neglected fields being leased to the state or to individuals who could actually farm them to bolster the US economy, rather than just letting them sit idle? Why is it acceptable for a house to stand without any exterior finish? If someone has the capital to build a home, surely they can scrape together a little more for the facade—or perhaps the government should provide subsidies for lower-income citizens to maintain their properties. And why is it permissible to let scrap metal and refuse accumulate in backyards? There should be fines for that kind of negligence, just like anywhere else.

I am glad to see that recent cleanup efforts for illegal dumping sites have finally begun. It was long overdue, and it's heartening to see people volunteering their time to help clean up their own country.

I ran into some construction near the old fort recently. While I was hanging around, I overheard the crew speaking a dialect I could barely follow, which made me worry about how they were going to lay those paving stones when they looked like they'd never handled anything like it. I went back after it reopened, and my suspicions were right. You can't even walk on it anymore, not even in sneakers. It looks pretty enough with the grout, though—tight enough to fit a thumb 🙂
Peter Clark6 Peter Clark6 Member
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#30 ·
Just stumbled upon this shot I took—honestly couldn't believe it was actually paid for, let alone that it’s still hanging around here after all this time. You can't even walk past without seeing it. 🙂
http://i59.tinypic.com/u7h3m.jpg

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