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Hey, I’m listed as a director for my own LLC for just an hour a day, but business is dead and I’m starting a job at a new company.

What paperwork do I need to hand over to the new employer? A tax card, a Medicare printout showing my work history, recent pay stubs, my ID... what else is out there?

By "what else," I mean do I even need to give them any info regarding my own company?
Do I have to do anything special to register myself, or do I just go through the usual employee onboarding process like everyone else?

Thanks.

quietpilot23 said:Hey, I’m listed as a director for my own LLC for just an hour a day, but business is dead and I’m starting a job at a new company.

What paperwork do I need to hand over to the new employer? A tax card, a Medicare printout showing my work history, recent pay stubs, my ID... what else is out there?

By "what else," I mean do I even need to give them any info regarding my own company?
Do I have to do anything special to register myself, or do I just go through the usual employee onboarding process like everyone else?

Thanks.

What exactly did you agree on with this new boss? Is this a side gig or what?

quietpilot23 said:Hey, I’m listed as a director for my own LLC for just an hour a day, but business is dead and I’m starting a job at a new company.

What paperwork do I need to hand over to the new employer? A tax card, a Medicare printout showing my work history, recent pay stubs, my ID... what else is out there?

By "what else," I mean do I even need to give them any info regarding my own company?
Do I have to do anything special to register myself, or do I just go through the usual employee onboarding process like everyone else?

Thanks.

If you're going to be working 8 hours a day at the new place, you'll first need to de-register yourself from your own LLC; once that's done, your new employer will simply register you just like any other employee. However, if you decide to stay registered at your own firm for that one hour a day, the new employer can only register you for 7 hours a day (part-time).
You just give the new employer whatever they ask for—standard stuff includes your Social Security info, routing and account numbers, ID, and your previous work history records.

So here’s the situation: someone I know is facing $20 back taxes because of unpaid payroll contributions (he was a board member at the time and wasn't employed anywhere else).
They’re coming after him for the period from January 1, 2014, all the way until the bankruptcy wrapped up.
The pre-bankruptcy settlement process actually kicked off back in 2013, but since they didn't meet the requirements, the IRS ordered them to move straight into formal bankruptcy—which, unfortunately, didn't officially close out until October 2015.
To make matters even worse, the tax authorities actually tried to dissolve the company in early 2014 since there were zero assets or employees left, but they backed off because the bankruptcy was already underway.
Is it seriously possible that an owner is being penalized just for trying to do things by the book? It feels like he's being stuck with the bill for the entire time the courts dragged their feet on the bankruptcy proceedings!

Jonathan Garcia said:So here’s the situation: someone I know is facing $20 back taxes because of unpaid payroll contributions (he was a board member at the time and wasn't employed anywhere else).
They’re coming after him for the period from January 1, 2014, all the way until the bankruptcy wrapped up.
The pre-bankruptcy settlement process actually kicked off back in 2013, but since they didn't meet the requirements, the IRS ordered them to move straight into formal bankruptcy—which, unfortunately, didn't officially close out until October 2015.
To make matters even worse, the tax authorities actually tried to dissolve the company in early 2014 since there were zero assets or employees left, but they backed off because the bankruptcy was already underway.
Is it seriously possible that an owner is being penalized just for trying to do things by the book? It feels like he's being stuck with the bill for the entire time the courts dragged their feet on the bankruptcy proceedings!

It’s pure, unadulterated madness. Someone always has to pay for all these bureaucrats, doesn't he? I can't believe they're starting up with this nonsense again. There was a time when they weren't chasing people down with this stupidity; they started playing these games around 2015, then stopped last year... and now we're back to this? Are you kidding me?

Did he have an employment contract with his own company, and if so, what was the salary amount?
When did the ruling come through, and from whom—the IRS or Medicare?
Are they charging him just for health insurance premiums, or for Social Security contributions too?

The whole thing stinks. For one, the law changed on January 1, 2017, when these absurdities were supposedly abolished, so there shouldn't even be a basis for collecting anything from 2017 onwards.

And also, if the company is in bankruptcy, has a trustee been appointed yet?
If a trustee has been assigned, then the former board member effectively ceased to be a board member, which should mean there's no legal basis to collect those contributions from the moment the bankruptcy opened until today.

As for the period before the bankruptcy was officially triggered? That's a total gray area. But honestly, what does he have to lose? He might as well file a grievance. And frankly, he should probably thank those 151 clowns in Congress back in 2014—most of whom, whether they were Democrats or Republicans, likely voted for this exact same mess. As one former representative used to say: "it's just different packaging for the same garbage."
Here is the list: http://www.congress.gov/members. Most of them are still active today.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but even during that murky, dark period when the laws were conflicting, the only real dispute was over health insurance premiums. There was never any doubt regarding Social Security contributions; those were always supposed to match the amount stated in the employment contract, even if someone was working for their own firm.

Thanks for the advice! First, they tried out a settlement agreement, but since that fell through, the SEC stepped in and ordered the bankruptcy.
The bankruptcy was supposed to kick off within 120 days, but we didn't even see a first hearing until six months later. At that hearing, the judge decided to trigger both the start and the end of the proceedings at once, gave us some window to appeal, and then—after a whole year and a half—the final bankruptcy ruling finally dropped.
And now, they’re trying to hit him with back taxes for that entire period.

Jonathan Garcia said:Thanks for the advice! First, they tried out a settlement agreement, but since that fell through, the SEC stepped in and ordered the bankruptcy.
The bankruptcy was supposed to kick off within 120 days, but we didn't even see a first hearing until six months later. At that hearing, the judge decided to trigger both the start and the end of the proceedings at once, gave us some window to appeal, and then—after a whole year and a half—the final bankruptcy ruling finally dropped.
And now, they’re trying to hit him with back taxes for that entire period.

When exactly was he scrubbed from the corporate registry?

So, when did they finally open and close the bankruptcy proceedings?
If my math is right, if the court process had dragged on for another five years, he would’ve been stuck paying those premiums the whole time?!
Look, I get it—if you're unemployed but still running a business, you should be covering your own payroll taxes. But it makes zero sense to keep doing that once the company hits liquidation or bankruptcy.
I checked with Medicare about it, and they told me to talk to the IRS. Then I went to the IRS, and of course, they told me Medicare was the one in charge.

And when exactly did that happen? This year, last year—when was he officially scrubbed from the board of directors?

You didn't even specify what the allegations are. Are we talking about unpaid Medicare premiums, Social Security taxes, or the whole messy combination of both? Go check the records and actually say so.

You also left out whether he even had an employment contract with his own company, let alone the salary involved. We can't just read tea leaves and guess here; once you lay out the facts, maybe then the picture will be any clearer.

So here's the deal: they're coming after him for all those back taxes and contributions from January 1, 2014, through October 9, 2015. That’s the exact window when his bankruptcy was filed and wrapped up, and he was officially removed from the board. He didn't have a contract with his own company, wasn't working anywhere else, and always stayed on top of filing and de-registering employees. No one ever gave him a heads-up about any issues.
The pre-bankruptcy proceedings actually started back in December 2013, which is when the SEC sent the court the order to initiate the bankruptcy—but unfortunately, it dragged on for nearly two years before it was finally closed out.
Everything was properly wiped from the corporate registry, yet now he's suddenly getting these tax bills in the mail.
When he went to the IRS, they just told him they're simply following whatever Medicare decided—which, by the way, Medicare never even sent him a notice about—and said he should go file an appeal with them instead.
Naturally, when he checked with Medicare, they just told him to take it up with the IRS.

Jonathan Garcia said:So here's the deal: they're coming after him for all those back taxes and contributions from January 1, 2014, through October 9, 2015. That’s the exact window when his bankruptcy was filed and wrapped up, and he was officially removed from the board. He didn't have a contract with his own company, wasn't working anywhere else, and always stayed on top of filing and de-registering employees. No one ever gave him a heads-up about any issues.
The pre-bankruptcy proceedings actually started back in December 2013, which is when the SEC sent the court the order to initiate the bankruptcy—but unfortunately, it dragged on for nearly two years before it was finally closed out.
Everything was properly wiped from the corporate registry, yet now he's suddenly getting these tax bills in the mail.
When he went to the IRS, they just told him they're simply following whatever Medicare decided—which, by the way, Medicare never even sent him a notice about—and said he should go file an appeal with them instead.
Naturally, when he checked with Medicare, they just told him to take it up with the IRS.

But did he actually pay any Social Security or Medicare taxes during that stretch? And if so, under what status—was he paying for himself, or was the company covering him?

It was a massive blunder not having a contract. The laws are fundamentally broken, and when a mistake like that catches up to you after such a long time, the price tag is astronomical.
If he lacked an employment contract with his own firm and wasn't covered under some other legal provision, then the monthly base for corporate officers—roughly around $2667, I can't recall the exact figure right now and I really don't feel like digging it up—would be applied. In this scenario, the liability falls on the officer personally rather than the company; essentially, the officer should have registered themselves with Medicare and Social Security as a corporate officer and paid the dues accordingly. If you take that base, tack on the 20% payroll tax and the 17% employer portion, you end up looking at roughly $2,950 a month. Multiply that by 21 months and you get approximately $21, which is almost exactly what they calculated.

Had he actually had an employment contract with his company, he could have been registered at the federal minimum wage level, which would have kept those contributions much lower. He might have even been able to scale it down further by working part-time—maybe just one hour a day—to pay contributions based on a tiny amount like $133, maybe around $33 per month. There was a time when authorities used to push officers into those kinds of contracts, though word is they've stopped doing that for now.

In short: he scored an absolute own goal, whether it was his own fault or due to a bookkeeper who failed to warn him about the pitfalls. I honestly fear there’s no easy fix here, unless he can somehow argue statute of limitations or find some other legal loophole through a lawyer. That’s probably his only shot.

Neither he nor his accountant had any clue, clearly. I was honestly hoping there might be some kind of loophole when it comes to bankruptcy or liquidation.
Now we’re dealing with an active liquidation, and since the founder is officially listed as an employee of his own company, we switched him to just one hour of work a week to avoid having to pay his payroll taxes. This means we have to fake outbound invoices just to "offset" the loan he gave the business, because the company isn't bringing in any revenue but still has to pay him until the liquidation wraps up. 🙂

Anyone know what this error means when I'm trying to sign forms on the FDA Lana portal?

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Is the software installed wrong or something?

So, I’ve got about a week left before my month-long window to sign up expires, and I tried calling them, but they basically just blew me off. Does anyone know if it actually works if someone just puts me on the payroll for three days to get my coverage back through Medicare & Medicaid Services? I remember hearing that used to be a thing you could pull off a few years back, but who knows how much the rules have changed since then.

Quick questions for you all...

So, I just got laid off, and now I need to get my health insurance sorted out through Medicare & Medicaid Services. From what I gather, all I really need is that one specific application form, and then I'm good to go?
Also—just wondering—can I actually just print the form at home, fill it out, and drop it off, or am I stuck having to go buy a physical copy somewhere?

My mom is having a bit of a headache because Medicare & Medicaid Services won't accept her printed documents...
Apparently, they're insisting on seeing the official deregistration for both her peace of mind and her personal records.

Has anyone ever dealt with a situation where you properly registered an employee in advance, only for them to be a no-show? If I then have to file a termination notice on that very same day under Section 112, what is the actual procedure? Does the system ultimately record them as having worked that day, or does the registration effectively vanish from the records? I am trying to understand how this sequence is processed.
Furthermore, there is a theoretical issue regarding timing. If my responsibilities involve processing terminations and I typically finish my work by 3:00 PM, but I have already registered an employee who was scheduled for a later shift—say starting at 3:00 or 4:00 PM—and they fail to show up, how am I expected to notify the Social Security Administration on that same business day? Am I essentially expected to work overtime just to report a no-show? I have just submitted a termination notice because someone failed to appear, and frankly, I feel quite foolish, as if I am required to pull all-nighters just to monitor attendance.
Am I truly the only one who finds these advance registration requirements to be entirely impractical?🥱🙂

I run my own small business, but I’ve just landed a job at a corporation. I’ll be an employee there—meaning they'll handle all my Medicare & Medicaid Services coverage—while I simultaneously maintain ownership of my own LLC.

A few days ago, I went to deregister myself from my business through the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and they told me something confusing: apparently, my new employer has to register me first before the agency can officially process my deregistration from the business. They claim the deregistration depends entirely on that new company's initial filing?

I’m just not following the logic here—how does the registration happen *before* the deregistration? Since the accounting department at the new firm handles the onboarding, can they actually finalize my deregistration from my own business without me being physically present? Does anyone know how this process actually works?

Thanks for the help.

Is the business under a flat-tax setup? It makes sense that you’d handle the deregistration first, but honestly, it feels like everyone involved is just completely disorganized...
If it's a flat-tax business, they track everything through your Social Security number, so there shouldn't be any extra paperwork needed on your end 😉

gentlepuma02, I actually went through something similar once. I don't think she was able to file the deregistration on that very same day, but I truly did forget to follow up. I called Medicare & Medicaid Services yesterday to have them clear one of my filings, though it hadn't been processed yet, which actually made things a bit easier—they just marked it as denied. All I really had to do was read through the filing details...

An employee is updating their home address. From what I’ve gathered, this isn't one of those changes that syncs automatically—meaning NOAA doesn't just push data over to Medicare & Medicaid Services (correct me if I'm wrong)—so I have to manually update both systems.
The issue is, I can't even get into the Medicare & Medicaid Services portal.
I select the application, pick my certificate, hit Accept... and then I get this: "Your request could not be processed. Authentication failed. Please try again."
After a endless cycle of... trying again... and again... and again... I'm honestly at a loss.
If anyone actually understands what's going on here, please help me out! 🙂