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How to sign up for Medicare

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Rachel Garcia Rachel Garcia Active Member
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joined Sep 2011
#61 ·
Timothy Morgan38 said:Can someone who’s actually been through this nightmare walk me through the exact process for registering with the IRS and Medicare...

- I already registered with the IRS and set up a quick filing profile for my firm, which went fine enough
- I filled out the IRS authorization forms for my clients and added myself as the authorized representative for them...
- I also filled out the Medicare authorization forms and listed myself as the one handling things for them

Questions:
1. On an IRS authorization form, can I list, say, five different clients and then name myself as the person managing all of them, or am I stuck filling out a separate form for every single client?

2. Who actually signs the IRS authorization? Is it the client, the accounting firm, or both?

3. Besides the authorization form, what else needs to be brought to the IRS? Some guy on a toll-free help line told me the form was all I needed, but now I'm reading online about powers of attorney, tax IDs, official rulings, and other nonsense...

4. What do I put for the business tax ID number on the Medicare authorization form? I can't find it anywhere... Is it something like 58222.1.1 ???

5. What else does Medicare require along with the authorization form?

Now, regarding hiring and firing employees...
1. What documentation is required for reporting to the IRS, and how exactly is it submitted?
2. What documentation is required for reporting to Medicare, and what's the protocol there?

If some kind soul could clear this up for me, I'd appreciate it...😁

I went to the Financial Center to ask about my card number. They gave me the access code for the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

You can reach them at 1-800-XXX-XXXX for assistance.🙂
Kyle Rogers8 Kyle Rogers8 Active Member
58 messages
joined Apr 2012
#62 ·
Timothy Morgan38 said:Can someone who’s actually been through this nightmare walk me through the exact process for registering with the IRS and Medicare...

- I already registered with the IRS and set up a quick filing profile for my firm, which went fine enough
- I filled out the IRS authorization forms for my clients and added myself as the authorized representative for them...
- I also filled out the Medicare authorization forms and listed myself as the one handling things for them

Questions:
1. On an IRS authorization form, can I list, say, five different clients and then name myself as the person managing all of them, or am I stuck filling out a separate form for every single client?

2. Who actually signs the IRS authorization? Is it the client, the accounting firm, or both?

3. Besides the authorization form, what else needs to be brought to the IRS? Some guy on a toll-free help line told me the form was all I needed, but now I'm reading online about powers of attorney, tax IDs, official rulings, and other nonsense...

4. What do I put for the business tax ID number on the Medicare authorization form? I can't find it anywhere... Is it something like 58222.1.1 ???

5. What else does Medicare require along with the authorization form?

Now, regarding hiring and firing employees...
1. What documentation is required for reporting to the IRS, and how exactly is it submitted?
2. What documentation is required for reporting to Medicare, and what's the protocol there?

If some kind soul could clear this up for me, I'd appreciate it...😁

Maybe you can have multiple clients listed on a single access sheet—I guess it depends on how you're setting things up.

Who actually signs the access form for the Social Security Administration? Is it the client or the accounting firm? Or maybe both?

Accounting—just accounting. (To be more specific: the authorized representative for the company receiving the power of attorney, plus that company's official seal—which is usually just the accounting firm.)

What else do I actually need to bring to the Social Security Administration besides the access list? Some guy on the toll-free help line told me that the list was all I’d need—nothing else—but now I'm reading stuff online about needing powers of attorney, various official decisions, and other paperwork. What's the deal?

They told me over the phone this morning—get the decision on opening a business and power of attorney. Apparently, I don't need the other paperwork. Or maybe I do? They were pretty blunt about it.

What am I supposed to enter for the Financial Center card number on this Medicare access form? I’ve been looking everywhere and I can't find that number to save my life—it’s nowhere. Is it maybe that other number, for example? 58222.1.1

That’s the number.

What else do I need to bring to Medicare along with the initial application form?

That’s it—nothing else. Just the application form.

The whole situation regarding onboarding and offboarding employees—it’s a mess.
What documents am I supposed to attach to my application for the Social Security Administration—and more importantly, how exactly am I supposed to file it?
What documents am I supposed to attach to my application for Medicare—and what's the actual process for getting it done?

I guess I’m hoping some kind soul out there can actually make sense of this—could someone please clarify? 😁

For standard check-ins or sign-offs, you don't actually need to do anything—it's handled. If you want to double-check, just look at the bottom of any M_P document; there’s a tab for mandatory documentation right there. I guess it might be required for professional training programs... maybe.

2. There’s also a tab in the app that breaks down exactly which documents you need for what—basically, it's the same old routine. You just scan the same paperwork you used to hand over at the local service center:
application: contract, ID, M1P
cancellation: termination notice, M2P
updates: depends on what exactly is changing...
Timothy Morgan38 Timothy Morgan38 Active Member
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joined Mar 2010
#63 ·
Thanks 🙂
Terry Sullivan56 Terry Sullivan56 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Jan 2014
#64 ·
So, I was over at my local Social Security office, right? And the lady behind the desk—blunt as ever—tells me straight up that they need the decision on opening a business and power of attorney. That was about ten days ago, though. Who knows if they've changed their mind or updated their paperwork since then... things move so fast these days.
Raymond Martinez10 Raymond Martinez10 Active Member
236 messages
joined Oct 2009
#65 ·
Kyle Rogers8 said:Maybe you can have multiple clients listed on a single access sheet—I guess it depends on how you're setting things up.

Who actually signs the access form for the Social Security Administration? Is it the client or the accounting firm? Or maybe both?

Accounting—just accounting. (To be more specific: the authorized representative for the company receiving the power of attorney, plus that company's official seal—which is usually just the accounting firm.)

What else do I actually need to bring to the Social Security Administration besides the access list? Some guy on the toll-free help line told me that the list was all I’d need—nothing else—but now I'm reading stuff online about needing powers of attorney, various official decisions, and other paperwork. What's the deal?

They told me over the phone this morning—get the decision on opening a business and power of attorney. Apparently, I don't need the other paperwork. Or maybe I do? They were pretty blunt about it.

What am I supposed to enter for the Financial Center card number on this Medicare access form? I’ve been looking everywhere and I can't find that number to save my life—it’s nowhere. Is it maybe that other number, for example? 58222.1.1

That’s the number.

What else do I need to bring to Medicare along with the initial application form?

That’s it—nothing else. Just the application form.

The whole situation regarding onboarding and offboarding employees—it’s a mess.
What documents am I supposed to attach to my application for the Social Security Administration—and more importantly, how exactly am I supposed to file it?
What documents am I supposed to attach to my application for Medicare—and what's the actual process for getting it done?

I guess I’m hoping some kind soul out there can actually make sense of this—could someone please clarify? 😁

For standard check-ins or sign-offs, you don't actually need to do anything—it's handled. If you want to double-check, just look at the bottom of any M_P document; there’s a tab for mandatory documentation right there. I guess it might be required for professional training programs... maybe.

2. There’s also a tab in the app that breaks down exactly which documents you need for what—basically, it's the same old routine. You just scan the same paperwork you used to hand over at the local service center:
application: contract, ID, M1P
cancellation: termination notice, M2P
updates: depends on what exactly is changing...

I agree. Based on my experience with Medicare, I got email replies back within two or three days for the first couple of people, but now I've been waiting ten days for the rest and haven't heard a peep.
Sarah Sullivan3 Sarah Sullivan3 Member
11 messages
joined Apr 2013
#66 ·
Has anyone else been dealing with this lately? Like, whenever I try to log into the Medicare portal, I just get hit with those annoying "server not responding" or "connection lost" messages...
David Green642 David Green642 Active Member
91 messages
joined Jul 2015
#67 ·
Sarah Sullivan3 said:Has anyone else been dealing with this lately? Like, whenever I try to log into the Medicare portal, I just get hit with those annoying "server not responding" or "connection lost" messages...

Yeah—just be careful when you're being persistent. You have to watch which certificate you pick from the list; if you click the wrong one, the whole thing just crashes—assuming you even have more than one installed.
Brenda Chase3 Brenda Chase3 Regular
367 messages
joined Dec 2016
#68 ·
Sarah Sullivan3 said:Has anyone else been dealing with this lately? Like, whenever I try to log into the Medicare portal, I just get hit with those annoying "server not responding" or "connection lost" messages...

Their servers tend to go down quite frequently. It’s almost like a cycle—someone reports the outage, sometimes I even end up calling them personally to let them know, they report that the server is "down again," and then they finally get it fixed. Honestly, don't let it catch you off guard too much; it's just part of the experience.
Sarah Sullivan3 Sarah Sullivan3 Member
11 messages
joined Apr 2013
#69 ·
I shot them an email yesterday, but all they did was tell me to pick my certificate once I launch the program. The thing is, I’ve been working on this whole time and I don't even have any certificates left... but the system just won't let me select anything. It's stuck...
Brenda Chase3 Brenda Chase3 Regular
367 messages
joined Dec 2016
#70 ·
Sarah Sullivan3 said:I shot them an email yesterday, but all they did was tell me to pick my certificate once I launch the program. The thing is, I’ve been working on this whole time and I don't even have any certificates left... but the system just won't let me select anything. It's stuck...

Your best bet is to call 1-800-555-0199 and press 3. I usually call them right when their servers crash; they're so "helpful" that they probably don't even realize their own systems are down until you point it out, and then they actually start working.
Brenda Chase3 Brenda Chase3 Regular
367 messages
joined Dec 2016
#71 ·
Sarah Sullivan3 said:I shot them an email yesterday, but all they did was tell me to pick my certificate once I launch the program. The thing is, I’ve been working on this whole time and I don't even have any certificates left... but the system just won't let me select anything. It's stuck...

If you’ve recently renewed your certification, you actually need to send them an email to let them know. They have to manually update the details on your account profile. When you renew, certain data points change, and if they haven't updated their records, the system gets stuck on your old info. This happened to me back in November—I didn't realize I had to notify them, so I just kept hitting a wall. Once I reached out and they updated my file, everything worked perfectly the very next day.
If that isn't the issue, your best bet is to just give them a call at the number I mentioned earlier.
Sarah Sullivan3 Sarah Sullivan3 Member
11 messages
joined Apr 2013
#72 ·
Brenda Chase3 said:If you’ve recently renewed your certification, you actually need to send them an email to let them know. They have to manually update the details on your account profile. When you renew, certain data points change, and if they haven't updated their records, the system gets stuck on your old info. This happened to me back in November—I didn't realize I had to notify them, so I just kept hitting a wall. Once I reached out and they updated my file, everything worked perfectly the very next day.
If that isn't the issue, your best bet is to just give them a call at the number I mentioned earlier.

I actually renewed my certificate way back in September.
It’s working now, though. They sent me an email yesterday afternoon telling me to give it another shot, and lo and behold... it worked. No clue what the hiccup was before.
Thanks for all the help, guys.
Austin Smith45 Austin Smith45 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Nov 2020
#73 ·
Hey everyone!

I’m looking for a little bit of guidance regarding these electronic filings... I’ve been scouring this entire thread and digging through both the NOAA and Medicare websites, but I still have a few lingering questions. (Basically, I’ll be the one handling the e-filings for our clients on behalf of our accounting firm.)

I want to make sure my understanding of the process is actually correct;

Regarding NOAA: So, the first step is obtaining a FIN certificate. Once we have that, we fill out an access authorization form, list every single client we’ll be filing for, attach the necessary power of attorney documents, and then physically take everything down to the local office window to get it processed.

As for Medicare: (From what I gather, they use a smart health card rather than the FIN certificate approach...) My takeaway here is that we first need to complete an access form for our accounting practice, bring that to the field office, and then wait about 15 days for them to issue our smart card—which supposedly activates our e-services automatically. After that, do we have to bring in a separate access form for every individual client just so Medicare can authorize us to handle their enrollments and disenrollments?

Please, if I’ve misinterpreted any of this, set me straight or point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance! 🙂
Ethan Mitchell4 Ethan Mitchell4 Active Member
89 messages
joined Feb 2015
#74 ·
I have a quick question regarding de-registering an employee from Social Security. This person is working through Friday (Feb 21st), and I’d like to set their end date as Sunday to ensure there isn't a gap in their service history—meaning, effective Feb 23rd.
Since that falls on a Sunday, can I just take care of this on Friday?

I'm basing this on the information found on the Social Security Administration website:

We note that e-filings can be submitted to the Agency up to seven days in advance to mitigate such issues. Processing for these received filings, and the associated deadlines, begins on the day the insured individual's status changes (the date of acquisition or termination of coverage).

Has anyone here tried filing an employee's termination early? I don't want to mess anything up.

I forgot to mention—every time I call the lady at the SSA office, she refuses to give me any actual information. She just keeps telling me everything is listed on their website; she won't even budge on a single detail. My conclusion is that they simply have no clue what they're doing, though maybe that's not it. I just don't understand why they would be so unhelpful.
Kyle Rogers8 Kyle Rogers8 Active Member
58 messages
joined Apr 2012
#75 ·
Ethan Mitchell4 said:I have a quick question regarding de-registering an employee from Social Security. This person is working through Friday (Feb 21st), and I’d like to set their end date as Sunday to ensure there isn't a gap in their service history—meaning, effective Feb 23rd.
Since that falls on a Sunday, can I just take care of this on Friday?

I'm basing this on the information found on the Social Security Administration website:

We note that e-filings can be submitted to the Agency up to seven days in advance to mitigate such issues. Processing for these received filings, and the associated deadlines, begins on the day the insured individual's status changes (the date of acquisition or termination of coverage).

Has anyone here tried filing an employee's termination early? I don't want to mess anything up.

I forgot to mention—every time I call the lady at the SSA office, she refuses to give me any actual information. She just keeps telling me everything is listed on their website; she won't even budge on a single detail. My conclusion is that they simply have no clue what they're doing, though maybe that's not it. I just don't understand why they would be so unhelpful.


I've tried it—works perfectly fine without any errors. 🙂
amberbadger17 amberbadger17 Active Member
190 messages
joined May 2012
#76 ·
Kyle Rogers8, looks like you're a total pro at this.

I don’t have any employees yet, but I’ll be hiring pretty soon. My godmother even gave me her credit card to get things moving.

So, when I'm sending over the access authorization for the electronic health portal, everything makes sense except for that part about digital signing via email. What does that actually mean in practice?

Also, if anyone happens to know where the link for the electronic pension portal access form is, please help a girl out. Either I'm blind or just plain clumsy. There are a million instructions and explanations on their site about what their form looks like, but where the heck is the actual link?????????????
Kate Brown49 Kate Brown49 Member
15 messages
joined Apr 2016
#77 ·
amberbadger17 said:Kyle Rogers8, looks like you're a total pro at this.

I don’t have any employees yet, but I’ll be hiring pretty soon. My godmother even gave me her credit card to get things moving.

So, when I'm sending over the access authorization for the electronic health portal, everything makes sense except for that part about digital signing via email. What does that actually mean in practice?

Also, if anyone happens to know where the link for the electronic pension portal access form is, please help a girl out. Either I'm blind or just plain clumsy. There are a million instructions and explanations on their site about what their form looks like, but where the heck is the actual link?????????????

access sheet
Kyle Rogers8 Kyle Rogers8 Active Member
58 messages
joined Apr 2012
#78 ·
amberbadger17 said:Kyle Rogers8, looks like you're a total pro at this.

I don’t have any employees yet, but I’ll be hiring pretty soon. My godmother even gave me her credit card to get things moving.

So, when I'm sending over the access authorization for the electronic health portal, everything makes sense except for that part about digital signing via email. What does that actually mean in practice?

Also, if anyone happens to know where the link for the electronic pension portal access form is, please help a girl out. Either I'm blind or just plain clumsy. There are a million instructions and explanations on their site about what their form looks like, but where the heck is the actual link?????????????

😁 I'm not really feeling it either—not quite.

It’s been ages since I handled the onboarding paperwork for my own company—back when the rules were completely different. Honestly, I have no clue how the process works now. I've been using the online portals for healthcare and Social Security for years, so if you're stuck on the initial enrollment or cancellation steps, I might be able to point you in the right direction. But this specific part? I'm lost.
Ethan Mitchell4 Ethan Mitchell4 Active Member
89 messages
joined Feb 2015
#79 ·
Kyle Rogers8 said:I've tried it—works perfectly fine without any errors. 🙂


Thanks so much—I followed your instructions today and everything went through smoothly.
Kyle Rogers8 Kyle Rogers8 Active Member
58 messages
joined Apr 2012
#80 ·
Ethan Mitchell4 said:Thanks so much—I followed your instructions today and everything went through smoothly.

So, yours hasn't been processed yet, right?
I guess I’m just stuck "on hold" until the actual date listed as my termination day
(that was the only point I could actually pull the confirmation showing the cancellation was final)

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