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redpilot37 redpilot37 Active Member
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#201 ·
Terry Ramos60 said:I didn't mean anything negative by it; when I used the word "ashamed," I was thinking more along the lines of, "What kind of parent am I if my child's teacher has to lend them money?" It’s that feeling of, "How could I possibly be so unprepared that I don't even have a few extra $6.75 to spare?"
I am certainly not suggesting you *should* feel that way, nor am I saying you shouldn't take pride in managing with what you have, but isn't it true that these emotions are often much stronger than our logic? Isn't it just an irrational impulse that almost any parent in America would experience in such a situation?
If it were me, wouldn't I be the first one feeling embarrassed? Wouldn't I feel a sense of shame and heartache if my own child came home and told me their teacher had to lend them $6.75 just so they could eat at McDonald's alongside everyone else in the class?

And then, perhaps, in an attempt to soothe that stinging feeling, wouldn't I start questioning whether the entire class even needed to go to McDonald's in the first place?


That’s usually how our heads work. But there's no need to freak out. There's no point hunting for someone to blame. Whether it's on us or the teacher... it's done. Just make sure it doesn't happen again. Monday is probably the best day to clear things up. You definitely need to talk it through with your kid, though—they're old enough to understand. It's not the end of the world
Joshua Parker11 Joshua Parker11 Member
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#202 ·
Melissa Gonzalez2 said:🤣

Man, now the teacher is the victim and the mom is the villain.

First off, the teacher chose to give the kid money on her own initiative.
The kid didn't even ask for it.
Second, if the mom said that's how it happened, then that's how it happened. The teacher shouldn't be sticking her nose into how people raise their kids.
Ebo, man.

If the mom had told the kid what to do, he wouldn't have taken the cash from the teacher in the first place.
Melissa Gonzalez2 Melissa Gonzalez2 Member
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#203 ·
Joshua Parker11 said:If the mom had told the kid what to do, he wouldn't have taken the cash from the teacher in the first place.

It was just a tiny slip-up on Mom's part—she couldn't have known things would play out like this.
Kimberly Robinson2 Kimberly Robinson2 Active MemberOP
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#204 ·
Richard Morris43 said:Man, you are dead wrong on this one... Every single job is grueling, and honestly, if you carry this mindset that teachers don't actually do anything, there is a massive chance your own kid is going to grow up thinking the exact same way and won't give a damn about respecting their instructors later on.
It's because lazy bums in those positions are pulling in checks they haven't earned.🙄

Look, every single profession out there has its share of slackers, so whatever..

Wait, did I ever actually say teachers don't do anything?? 🤷
All I said was that at one particular school, they're running nearly 20 minutes late for every single period! Just do the math—how many hours are they actually supposed to be working versus what they're actually doing?! And is that okay? Not in my book. But clearly, nobody's checking up on them.

Kate Cox2 said:Look, I really don't want to believe this is just a typical daily occurrence... but if it is, then that school is in complete and utter shambles. I suspect situations like that are pretty rare...
In our faculty lounge here, people actually start heading toward their classrooms a minute or two BEFORE the bell rings. That way, by the time everyone reaches the room, they can all walk in and settle down immediately, allowing us to actually begin working right away...
At this rate, I think we probably deserve a higher salary than those professors of yours 😁

That's just how it is at *that* school. For instance, when I went in once for an info session during 4th period, right after the big break, I'd occasionally pop in for another period too, and it was always the same story. Kids are sprinting through the halls, jumping on the stairs, playing hide-and-seek, making a racket, and nobody does a thing. That goes on until those 20 minutes of class time are wasted. Personally, I'd find myself trying to calm them down and ushering them back to class because no teacher was around. But it was just constant chaos—one kid in, one kid out.

Joshua Parker11 said:If the mom had told the kid what to do, he wouldn't have taken the cash from the teacher in the first place.

Oh, aren't you a genius! What else was I supposed to tell my child besides what I did? I told him I didn't have it right then, and he could try again next time when we actually have it.
As if I had some crystal ball knowing this was going to happen.
Now we can all sit here acting smart and handing out perfect advice... "she should have done this," "she should have done that"... well, she could have, but she didn't... and somehow it's on me, right?😕

Melissa Gonzalez2 said:It was just a tiny slip-up on Mom's part—she couldn't have known things would play out like this.

Exactly... if I had any inkling she was going to LEND them to him, I would've rushed out to swap $17 for about thirty bucks somewhere. They wouldn't be dead without them.
Sarah James4 Sarah James4 Active Member
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#205 ·
Kate Cox2 said:Oh, absolutely. That kind of thing happens in the staff lounge on a daily basis... 🤦
you probably just happened to stumble upon one of those rare times, maybe four or five times a year, when someone is celebrating something and decides to treat the whole department...

I remember those exact patterns, Joshua Parker11, back when I was in school. You knew exactly which teachers were going to be late. It wasn't even a surprise. They were consistently late. They just didn't care about the school, the kids, or the profession at all.

I can't wrap my head around it today. I wouldn't tolerate that behavior. My kid is lucky to have a teacher who actually stays in the classroom until the very last student heads home. Someone who takes the time to say goodbye to every single child individually.

Now, I see it as a total lack of respect—for the students, for education, and for the job itself.

Of course, life happens. There are legitimate reasons why someone might be late once in a blue moon. We've all been there.
Joshua Parker11 Joshua Parker11 Member
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#206 ·
Melissa Gonzalez2 said:It was just a tiny slip-up on Mom's part—she couldn't have known things would play out like this.

That’s not some "tiny oversight." Like she admitted herself, Mom has this habit of constantly being oblivious to what's right in front of her.
And honestly, she totally could have planned for this. Based on everything we know, she knew a day before the trip that all the kids were heading to McDonald's.
Jason Cook2 Jason Cook2 Member
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#207 ·
Joshua Parker11 said:God.
Let me repeat: you knew they were going to McDonald's, and if you didn't have the extra $1.75 for ice cream, you shouldn't have let him go (because like you said, you know exactly how much it sucks to have to stare at the floor). The teacher would have refunded that $15 you paid, rather than putting the kid in that position. You knew what would happen—that all the other kids would be eating and buying stuff while your little guy stood there on the sidelines. You could have prevented that.
And honestly, in my opinion, the biggest fault here is yours. The teacher told the kid to pay her back instead of you walking over to that school just 60 meters away (literally a five-minute walk) to return the money or sending it via the kid that same day, so she wouldn't have to keep pulling on his sleeve. You opened this whole drama up and expected everyone to just jump on her and her actions.
And yeah, you are trashing the teacher and all the teachers at the school, which is pretty obvious from your post about the ones who just sit around in the lounge eating and drinking and barely move once the bell rings..

And again, you know that those $6.75 probably didn't mean much to the teacher compared to you. Maybe she even pulled the last $6.75 out of her own pocket for your son just so he wouldn't feel left out, and she politely told him his mom would pay her back. Maybe that money was just as tight for her as it is for you??!!

And about your little guy—if I remember right, he’s 10 now? That’s plenty old enough for you to walk him through certain situations. You basically sent him off to McDonald's without a dime in his pocket, so the least you could've done was tell him to eat the lunch you packed or just make sure he knows not to take money from strangers.
Also, this whole thing about having four kids and struggling with income? It honestly has zero to do with the topic at hand.

I really don't get why you even started this thread if you expected everyone to jump on board with your specific take. This is a forum. Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, and it’s totally uncalled for to start attacking people just because they don't see things your way.

Why shouldn't a child go to a museum or ride an escalator and spend the day with his friends if he isn't planning on eating at McDonald's? Does that mean if everyone decides to grab ice cream in the plaza (and I've seen plenty of those scenes in the summer, a scoop of $2.25 btw), then he shouldn't have gone to see Washington, D.C. either?!
As for the second bolded part—though I could have easily highlighted the whole text—people who aren't so broke that $6.75 represents a life-altering amount of money don't blow it at McDonald's on some Crappy stuff, whether it's for their own kid or someone else's.
Joshua Parker11 Joshua Parker11 Member
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#208 ·
Jason Cook2 said:Why shouldn't a child go to a museum or ride an escalator and spend the day with his friends if he isn't planning on eating at McDonald's? Does that mean if everyone decides to grab ice cream in the plaza (and I've seen plenty of those scenes in the summer, a scoop of $2.25 btw), then he shouldn't have gone to see Washington, D.C. either?!
As for the second bolded part—though I could have easily highlighted the whole text—people who aren't so broke that $6.75 represents a life-altering amount of money don't blow it at McDonald's on some Crappy stuff, whether it's for their own kid or someone else's.

The mom actually said herself to treat her kid to McDonald's whenever she can.

I guess I could also point out that people who find $6.75 to be a problematic amount of money aren't signing their kids up for optional summer camps starting at $400.

The real issue here is that the mom didn't step up and handle things with the teacher to make sure this doesn't happen again. Instead, she just let the little guy deal with it on his own while the teacher keeps dragging him along by the sleeve.
Jason Cook2 Jason Cook2 Member
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#209 ·
Joshua Parker11 said:The mom actually said herself to treat her kid to McDonald's whenever she can.

I guess I could also point out that people who find $6.75 to be a problematic amount of money aren't signing their kids up for optional summer camps starting at $400.

The real issue here is that the mom didn't step up and handle things with the teacher to make sure this doesn't happen again. Instead, she just let the little guy deal with it on his own while the teacher keeps dragging him along by the sleeve.

I agree that Mom should have handled this privately with the teacher herself; I think everyone is on the same page regarding that. And look, maybe she can just buy him a burger at McDonald's if he doesn't have to pay for it a day in advance... $15 I would much rather fund a trip for my child than waste money on fast food. As for summer school, I couldn't care less; that's her money to spend how she chooses, and she certainly didn't choose to blow it all at McDonald's...
Joshua Parker11 Joshua Parker11 Member
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#210 ·
Jason Cook2 said:I agree that Mom should have handled this privately with the teacher herself; I think everyone is on the same page regarding that. And look, maybe she can just buy him a burger at McDonald's if he doesn't have to pay for it a day in advance... $15 I would much rather fund a trip for my child than waste money on fast food. As for summer school, I couldn't care less; that's her money to spend how she chooses, and she certainly didn't choose to blow it all at McDonald's...

I'm with you—it's her money and she can spend it however she wants. The field trip thing is fine, but she knew they were going to McDonald's. She could've easily given him $1.75 for an ice cream while they were there; nobody was forcing a specific menu on them.
The kid is old enough now, and she should've explained that he shouldn't take money from anyone.
And yeah, she could've settled this directly with the teacher. But nope, apparently it's more important to trash her on a forum than to walk 60 meters to the school—which she claims is right there—to fix the situation instead of dragging the kid into all this drama.

She could've done anything, but she didn't.🤷

I'm just wondering: what if the kid came home miserable because they were at McDonough and everyone—all the kids and even the teacher—was eating, but he didn't have cash for an ice cream? What if everyone teased him and he felt terrible because of the bullying? Would you guys start a thread saying: "I didn't give my kid $1.75 for ice cream because I made him lunch, but now he's standing there alone getting picked on by everyone, and the teacher didn't even care because she was too busy eating her burger with the other kids while he sat there with his crackers"? She'd be such a cold person... and I really wonder if people would be trashing the teacher then.
I bet they would.
Bottom line, this whole thing was avoidable.
It wasn't. Fine. But Mom could also just own up to her mistakes and stop making such a massive drama out of it. She knowingly didn't give the kid cash, okay. The teacher offered it, okay. The kid took it, and the teacher asked for it back, okay—just go talk to the teacher, return the money, and call it a day in Canada.

Look, she doesn't work, so money doesn't just grow on trees, and we need to be sympathetic to that. Meanwhile, the teacher has money to throw around, so she doesn't need the reimbursement. The kid accepted the cash with the understanding he'd pay it back, so what's the big deal now?🤷
Jason Cook2 Jason Cook2 Member
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#211 ·
I honestly cannot wrap my head around children mocking someone just because they don't have enough cash for ice cream🤷. Even if they did, the solution isn't to hand out money to a little $1.75 (for the record, the teacher didn't give $1.75 for ice cream, she gave $30), but rather to discipline them right then and there—remember, there are 19 of them, so think twice before you mock someone for being broke, and they shouldn't be taken to places like that for a while as punishment.

No one asked the teacher for any money, so I don't think she should even expect a refund, though I am certain she isn't exactly swimming in cash herself.
Jacob Sanders34 Jacob Sanders34 Newcomer
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#212 ·
I've read through this whole thread, and honestly, I think both the teacher and the mom kind of clumsily messed everything up.
The kid isn't even really at fault here.

The Teacher:
- because she should've given the parents a heads-up earlier about going to McDonald's.
- because the whole situation where they were hunting for those $7.00 ended up being super awkward (especially doing it to a kid right there in the hallway). Maybe she should've just handed over a smaller amount and let the whole thing slide. Clearly, she just panicked and was trying too hard to look like she had everything under control in the moment.

The Mom:
- because she knew about the plan the night before and could've easily given her kid at least $1.75 for an ice cream (even if $6.75 feels like a fortune to some people, she couldn't have scraped together at least $1.75). She knew all the other kids would be diving into their food while hers would be staring at the floor, so... yeah, screw those crappy $1.75. 😢 If she had $17 in her wallet, she could've just swapped the cash and grabbed $1.75 instead. She consciously put her child in that spot. There's no way she can claim she didn't see this coming.
- because she's arguing with the teacher through the kid instead of just handling it herself immediately.

Everyone (the school and the parents):
- because they could've done a quick search before the "McDonald's field trip" and seen that there were coupons (online and everywhere) for 50% off and cheaper Happy Meals.

redpilot37 said:Just level the playing field so they blend in with everyone else. A kid shouldn't stand out; avoiding that social friction is the priority if you want to prevent trauma.☕
How can you not?🙄

They could have just hit up a McDonald's after school instead of bringing it into the building. Maybe that was part of the "educational" aspect—showing kids where modern "healthy food" actually comes from.🤔

Say whatever you want, but they could have taken the kids somewhere else. There are plenty of healthier, cheaper, or even free options out there. Honestly, it would have been better if she just grabbed some crayons and a stack of paper and had them draw nature instead.

Some people act like they were never kids themselves. Like, seriously? Kids would actually prefer coloring in nature over going to McKinley? Don't get me wrong—I'm not a huge fan of McKinley either; it's unhealthy, everything is processed, and it's not cheap. But plenty of us love going there. And especially for kids from smaller towns, it’s a rare treat, and they get so hyped about those cheap little toys you get in a Happy Meal.
Eric Rogers17 Eric Rogers17 Newcomer
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#213 ·
Jason Cook2 said:I honestly cannot wrap my head around children mocking someone just because they don't have enough cash for ice cream🤷. Even if they did, the solution isn't to hand out money to a little $1.75 (for the record, the teacher didn't give $1.75 for ice cream, she gave $30), but rather to discipline them right then and there—remember, there are 19 of them, so think twice before you mock someone for being broke, and they shouldn't be taken to places like that for a while as punishment.

No one asked the teacher for any money, so I don't think she should even expect a refund, though I am certain she isn't exactly swimming in cash herself.

Honestly, the teacher should've used this as a teaching moment to show the other kids that mocking someone for being broke is totally uncool. She could've asked everyone to chip in a few quarters together. Maybe a miracle would've happened and they'd actually feel good about helping out. Sure, we could talk about how the kids might tease him later once the teacher's gone, or how the boy might feel like he's just getting charity, but there had to be a way to handle it gracefully, and that's on the teacher to figure out.
graniteseal9 graniteseal9 Newcomer
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#214 ·
I’ve read through most of this thread and wanted to point out a few things:
It seems like most people have just accepted the mother's version of events as absolute truth without considering that perspective matters. If a teacher had started this discussion instead, the reaction might have been quite different.
I agree that teachers—just like people in any profession—can be flawed, but I find it hard to believe parents weren't informed about the trip. Maybe the mom missed the parent meeting, or maybe the kid didn't mention they were heading to McDonald's. It's unlikely everyone would suddenly have the cash for an outing like this without prior notice.
Furthermore, I don't think the mother should take her child's account of what happened at McDonald's at face value. I see many of you arguing that the child didn't ask for money, but... are you absolutely sure? A friend of mine who is a teacher once dealt with a situation where a student, running low on cash during a trip to Central Park, was begging passersby for money to ride the pedicabs—at least until the teacher caught on. Who knows how that actually went down? For all we know, the teacher might have overreacted a bit $7.00. Besides, a ten-year-old is old enough to understand what Mom would or wouldn't approve of and act accordingly.
Regardless, I side with those saying it would have been much worse if the teacher had let the kid sit there eating a peanut butter sandwich and drinking water, staring sadly at everyone else eating burgers. Helping the child fit in so they don't feel inferior isn't about moralizing that "kids can't always have everything"—I agree with that principle—but when we're talking about minor luxuries and trends...
In short: kudos to the teacher.
Kimberly Robinson2 Kimberly Robinson2 Active MemberOP
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#215 ·
People are making such a huge deal out of $1.75 for ice cream! Seriously, it’s summer! He never gets ice cream at McDonald's because it’s just not the kind he actually likes. He strictly sticks to a burger for a few bucks plus fries, a soda, some ranch, or just grabs a Happy Meal. But the kid can't even figure it out himself—he's just too quiet, too passive. I barely even drag him out for ice cream in the summer (I have to force him to learn how to just go buy a scoop). I asked him if he could order what he wanted on his own, and he said no. I know he needs to learn independence, but he’s honestly never been to McDonald's without me. And honestly, I try to avoid going there anyway since it's all junk food. He doesn't care for pizza at all, but he likes other things. I’d much rather spend my money on stuff he actually enjoys that's higher quality than what you get at McDonald's.
And regarding those famous $1.75 for ice cream—my kid would be the only one licking it while everyone else ate, and then what? What would they even do with that? Nothing. I'd just end up being the "bad mom" again...

Joshua Parker11 said:The mom actually said herself to treat her kid to McDonald's whenever she can.

I guess I could also point out that people who find $6.75 to be a problematic amount of money aren't signing their kids up for optional summer camps starting at $400.

The real issue here is that the mom didn't step up and handle things with the teacher to make sure this doesn't happen again. Instead, she just let the little guy deal with it on his own while the teacher keeps dragging him along by the sleeve.

Exactly. When we head into a big city like Chicago or take a trip on the SNC, if we have the cash, we go and buy him what he wants to eat.

I could also point out that people who claim $6.75 is too much money aren't the ones paying for optional summer programs for kids from $400.

Optional? That's practically part of the curriculum! You're either there or you're missing class! And everyone goes to the beach. Every single kid in his class goes! Including all those five social cases who somehow always have plenty of extra cash despite receiving government assistance!
And like I already said, I'm not the one footing the bill for that.
Honestly, I hate dropping nearly $200 when that same money could cover more than a week at the beach for the three of us!

The biggest issue is that the mother didn't step in to handle this with the teacher so it wouldn't happen again; instead, she let the little guy handle it himself while the teacher keeps pulling his arm.

Why do you keep repeating yourself?? 🤷
I've already written this a few times...
But since you're asking, I'll say it again—hopefully for the last time:

1. I didn't go because I had another obligation that morning. Plus, we went to the movies!
2. The next day, I decided I was going to pay her back since he took the money himself, just so he learns that if he takes something, he has to return it!
Amanda Hughes37 Amanda Hughes37 Active Member
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#216 ·
I’ve read through everything, and regardless of what’s technically right or wrong, I know exactly what I’d do if I were that teacher... the same thing... and I wouldn't even ask for the money. If they bring it, they bring it.

If I were in that mother's shoes, I might just stroke my chin, ponder it, and send the cash—though honestly, it’s hard to justify sending it without knowing for sure it’ll actually get there.
We can argue all we want about how schools occasionally dump massive financial burdens on families, but my take is that those issues need to be handled elsewhere. As long as things are currently set up this way, you have to give the kid whatever is necessary... and I’m not talking about those ridiculous, overpriced field trips.

To me, the situation is painfully simple.

If I started a thread for every single time a kid, a teacher, or anyone else unexpectedly snatched dollars out of my hands, most people would have hundreds of stories to tell.
Joshua Parker11 Joshua Parker11 Member
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#217 ·
Kimberly Robinson2 said:People are making such a huge deal out of $1.75 for ice cream! Seriously, it’s summer! He never gets ice cream at McDonald's because it’s just not the kind he actually likes. He strictly sticks to a burger for a few bucks plus fries, a soda, some ranch, or just grabs a Happy Meal. But the kid can't even figure it out himself—he's just too quiet, too passive. I barely even drag him out for ice cream in the summer (I have to force him to learn how to just go buy a scoop). I asked him if he could order what he wanted on his own, and he said no. I know he needs to learn independence, but he’s honestly never been to McDonald's without me. And honestly, I try to avoid going there anyway since it's all junk food. He doesn't care for pizza at all, but he likes other things. I’d much rather spend my money on stuff he actually enjoys that's higher quality than what you get at McDonald's.
And regarding those famous $1.75 for ice cream—my kid would be the only one licking it while everyone else ate, and then what? What would they even do with that? Nothing. I'd just end up being the "bad mom" again...

Exactly. When we head into a big city like Chicago or take a trip on the SNC, if we have the cash, we go and buy him what he wants to eat.

I could also point out that people who claim $6.75 is too much money aren't the ones paying for optional summer programs for kids from $400.

Optional? That's practically part of the curriculum! You're either there or you're missing class! And everyone goes to the beach. Every single kid in his class goes! Including all those five social cases who somehow always have plenty of extra cash despite receiving government assistance!
And like I already said, I'm not the one footing the bill for that.
Honestly, I hate dropping nearly $200 when that same money could cover more than a week at the beach for the three of us!

The biggest issue is that the mother didn't step in to handle this with the teacher so it wouldn't happen again; instead, she let the little guy handle it himself while the teacher keeps pulling his arm.

Why do you keep repeating yourself?? 🤷
I've already written this a few times...
But since you're asking, I'll say it again—hopefully for the last time:

1. I didn't go because I had another obligation that morning. Plus, we went to the movies!
2. The next day, I decided I was going to pay her back since he took the money himself, just so he learns that if he takes something, he has to return it!

And everyone went to McDonald's. EVERYONE in his class goes!🤷

So, it's really just the teacher's fault.
And I'm repeating $1.75 because you could have just bought fries.
And I'm repeating the part about leaving a kid in that situation because YOU are the one at fault here, and you just don't see it.

Anyway, I sign off on everything Jacob Sanders34 said, from start to finish.
Kimberly Robinson2 Kimberly Robinson2 Active MemberOP
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#218 ·
graniteseal9 said:I’ve read through most of this thread and wanted to point out a few things:
It seems like most people have just accepted the mother's version of events as absolute truth without considering that perspective matters. If a teacher had started this discussion instead, the reaction might have been quite different.
I agree that teachers—just like people in any profession—can be flawed, but I find it hard to believe parents weren't informed about the trip. Maybe the mom missed the parent meeting, or maybe the kid didn't mention they were heading to McDonald's. It's unlikely everyone would suddenly have the cash for an outing like this without prior notice.
Furthermore, I don't think the mother should take her child's account of what happened at McDonald's at face value. I see many of you arguing that the child didn't ask for money, but... are you absolutely sure? A friend of mine who is a teacher once dealt with a situation where a student, running low on cash during a trip to Central Park, was begging passersby for money to ride the pedicabs—at least until the teacher caught on. Who knows how that actually went down? For all we know, the teacher might have overreacted a bit $7.00. Besides, a ten-year-old is old enough to understand what Mom would or wouldn't approve of and act accordingly.
Regardless, I side with those saying it would have been much worse if the teacher had let the kid sit there eating a peanut butter sandwich and drinking water, staring sadly at everyone else eating burgers. Helping the child fit in so they don't feel inferior isn't about moralizing that "kids can't always have everything"—I agree with that principle—but when we're talking about minor luxuries and trends...
In short: kudos to the teacher.

We didn't get any parental notice about this!
There was this little scrap of paper—I don't have a photo because he already turned it back into the school—where you're supposed to sign off to give permission for the kid to go here and there for a certain amount of money. It didn't mention anything about going to McDonald's, but everything else was laid out right there.

Furthermore, I really don't think a mother should take a child's account of what happened at McDonald's at face value. I see plenty of you writing about how the child didn't ask to borrow money, but... are you actually sure about that???

I'll find out more on Monday. Once I hear the teachers' version of events, too. For now, I know my kid doesn't "beg"—he doesn't even really grasp the concept. He’s just the type who accepts things if someone offers them (like when he's over at a friend's house). Actually, I just found out that the first time he was at a buddy's place, he ate a fried egg... he wouldn't touch an egg like that at home to save his life! But there, he loved it...😍 Though that's nothing compared to this situation. Even at our place, if friends come over and we have food, I offer it to them.

.......... and he just sits there giving those sad looks to the others eating their hamburgers, wishing someone had helped him feel equal to everyone else so he wouldn't feel less than them......

And how exactly am I supposed to help that kid so he doesn't have to stare sadly at happy families? He sees them everywhere—moms and dads taking their kids to the store to pick out treats and gifts, getting them something nice for Christmas, while he won't! Because he doesn't have a family. It's not his fault, and it's not anyone else's fault—it's mine. I'm the one who didn't want my kid to deal with constant fighting and crying... the one who ended up divorcing his father because he didn't care about the kids, only about his own mother and doing whatever she wanted... yeah, the kid isn't to blame, but seeing this, seeing how he looks at all the other children who get everything they want, it's heartbreaking. Though, personally, I didn't actually see him looking sad.

The only thing is, for Saint Nicholas, he asked for ONLY candy and firecrackers! Nothing else. He got a little gift bag for Saint Nicholas ($3.25 there was a Saint Nicholas themed bag at Walmart with a few chocolate balls for the tree)... and he was absolutely thrilled, though I didn't buy the firecrackers. He got a few tears in his eyes since he couldn't find them, but I just told him I bought them and it just wasn't time for them yet. And that kept the peace.
Kimberly Robinson2 Kimberly Robinson2 Active MemberOP
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#219 ·
Joshua Parker11 said:And everyone went to McDonald's. EVERYONE in his class goes!🤷

So, it's really just the teacher's fault.
And I'm repeating $1.75 because you could have just bought fries.
And I'm repeating the part about leaving a kid in that situation because YOU are the one at fault here, and you just don't see it.

Anyway, I sign off on everything Jacob Sanders34 said, from start to finish.

How on earth was I supposed to know?? 🤷
I knew about the beach trip because there were three different parent meetings about it.

And where exactly did I say she was the only one to blame? 🤷
We are talking about the basic principle of supply and demand here!

It was nice of her to give him money, sure, but she didn't need to pull him aside again the next day and ask if he brought it, knowing full well I couldn't give him anything since I didn't have any. And if he told her I'd come down to the school... Well, since she was asking him, I ended up heading over there to find him.

Does McDonald's even have fries for $1.75? 😕🤷

And where does it say that I don't realize I'm in the wrong? 🤷
Lisa Rivera Lisa Rivera Active Member
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#220 ·
I realize I’m just dropping this in out of nowhere, but... a ten-year-old child simply has no business playing around with fireworks.🙂

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