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Animal cruelty nightmare: "They're spitting on my wife, my kids are scared to go to school, and now

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Andrew Hayes4 Andrew Hayes4 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2010
#101 ·
Carol Diaz said:A true animal🤣


Human life is sacred. Human life holds more value than any animal. The life of a single serial killer outweighs the lives of every dog currently existing on this planet.

There are no moral dilemmas here. Animals are primitive tools and resources utilized by humans to satisfy their own needs—including the needs of lonely individuals seeking emotional companionship. To even attempt to draw a pseudo-nationalist parallel between the hierarchy of human value and our relationship with animals is nothing short of perverse.
Human life is sacred. Human life holds more value than any animal. The life of a single serial killer outweighs the lives of every dog currently existing on this planet.

There are no moral dilemmas here. Animals are primitive tools and resources utilized by humans to satisfy their own needs—including the needs of lonely individuals seeking emotional companionship. To even attempt to draw a pseudo-nationalist parallel between the hierarchy of human value and our relationship with animals is nothing short of perverse.
How does anyone even find it possible to say something like 😲😲😲

Now I see why I've always preferred animals over people. ☕
Carol Diaz Carol Diaz Member
24 messages
joined Apr 2008
#102 ·
Andrew Hayes4 said:

Human life is sacred. Human life holds more value than any animal. The life of a single serial killer outweighs the lives of every dog currently existing on this planet.

There are no moral dilemmas here. Animals are primitive tools and resources utilized by humans to satisfy their own needs—including the needs of lonely individuals seeking emotional companionship. To even attempt to draw a pseudo-nationalist parallel between the hierarchy of human value and our relationship with animals is nothing short of perverse.
How does anyone even find it possible to say something like 😲😲😲

Now I see why I've always preferred animals over people. ☕
Picture this: you, me, and a hamster stranded on a deserted island. To survive, someone has to be sacrificed and consumed. Do you kill me and split the meal with the hamster, kill the hamster and share it with me, or simply succumb to starvation?

Picture this: you, Johnny Štulić, and a hamster stranded on a deserted island. Survival requires a sacrifice. Do you kill Štulić and share him with the hamster, kill the hamster and share it with Štulić, or just die of hunger?
Morgan Rodriguez57 Morgan Rodriguez57 Active Member
216 messages
joined Oct 2011
#103 ·
Carol Diaz said:Picture this: you, me, and a hamster stranded on a deserted island. To survive, someone has to be sacrificed and consumed. Do you kill me and split the meal with the hamster, kill the hamster and share it with me, or simply succumb to starvation?

Picture this: you, Johnny Štulić, and a hamster stranded on a deserted island. Survival requires a sacrifice. Do you kill Štulić and share him with the hamster, kill the hamster and share it with Štulić, or just die of hunger?

That hamster is gonna be a cold-blooded killer... 😁
David Cook87 David Cook87 Member
12 messages
joined Feb 2016
#104 ·
This topic hits home for me because I consider myself a huge animal lover,
but I would never, ever, put my relationship with an animal ahead of a relationship with any human being.
I grew up surrounded by animals. I’ve had dogs, cats, pretty much every rodent you can think of—from mice to chinchillas—plus birds, fish, reptiles...
I also spent a lot of time at my grandmother’s farm out in the countryside. Checking on the livestock was basically my first job whenever I went to visit her. Horses, cows, pigs, goats, chickens, turkeys, geese... the whole works.😍

Nowadays, living in the city, I can't walk past an animal without noticing it and trying to strike up some kind of connection,🙂 whether it's verbal, non-verbal, or just a look from across the street.
I don't have pets of my own, though. It never even crosses my mind to get one because I refuse to let an animal sit stuck inside all day in a space that isn't meant for them.

That said, plenty of my friends and colleagues have pets.
Mostly dogs.
And honestly, I can't wrap my head around how much they’ve subordinated their entire lives to these beasts.
It’s absurd. These animals have actually shifted their interpersonal and family dynamics... everything from "standard" breakups to some truly bizarre social situations.
In most cases, their dogs have become the pack leaders, and frankly, those people could use a good dose of
Cesar Millan... or maybe even a real human psychologist.

Look, I get it. It’s sweet when a dog wags its tail and keeps your feet warm under the covers,😁 but any human connection is incomparably more interesting, productive, and challenging than anything you'll get from an animal.
At the end of the day, no four-legged or winged pet
is going to brew you a cup of tea and bring it to you in bed.
And if we’ve lost the people who were actually willing to do those things for us, then we need to take a hard look in the mirror ourselves, rather than worrying about the fate of animals.

As for this specific case, the guy is just plain stupid. And the people attacking him aren't much smarter, nor do they seem to have much compassion in their hearts.

However, what we really should be terrified of... is people who pathologically torture animals. I am convinced those types are potential abusers and killers of humans.
I remember a boy from my neighborhood back when I was a kid who used to nail cats to things. Today, he's a severe mental patient, permanently tucked away in a psychiatric facility. 😢 Luckily, they got him before he could do something even worse.
analogbadger5 analogbadger5 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2011
#105 ·
I’ve always had a soft spot for animals—went to veterinary school myself—but frankly, certain animal rights groups just turn my stomach. The hypocrisy in some of these cases is staggering. Take that famous American director (I can't recall his name right now) offering hundreds of thousands of dollars just to unmask some girl from Canada who was dumping puppies into a river. vauuu... Honestly, what a joke. While people were being slaughtered back home—while entire populations were being executed, while genocide was unfolding in Srebrenica, El Paso, and everywhere else—this guy was busy living his best life in the USA, just coasting along. And then suddenly, he spots this horrific crime against puppies and decides to play the grand humanitarian, calling for a public lynching of a little girl who probably hasn't even learned how to wipe her own nose yet. It’s revolting. Now, don't get me wrong, I condemn that kind of treatment of animals, but anyone who grew up in a rural area knows exactly how many unwanted kittens and pups ended up drowned in rivers. The people doing it weren't psychopaths or maniacs; they were just people who didn't see anything wrong with it because that's how they were raised—watching their own fathers cry while stuffing unwanted litters into bags and heading toward the water. They couldn't afford to feed them, they didn't have thousands of dollars for vaccinations, and nobody wanted them because everyone already had their hands full with their own pets. Is it inhumane? Yes. Is it ugly and disgusting? Absolutely. Could I personally bring myself to do it? No. But in the aftermath of the war here, tens of thousands of stray dogs wandered aimlessly through the streets—what do you honestly think happened to them? Adoption... please, don't be naive. You keep a fluffy poodle in a tiny studio apartment in Chicago, buy it fancy little outfits just so you look trendy walking it around downtown, join some fancy non-profit, and suddenly you think you're a saint. In reality, you don't have a clue what an animal actually is or what it means to live alongside one. I know I'm generalizing, but I can't help myself.
Nancy Bailey26 Nancy Bailey26 Member
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joined Oct 2011
#106 ·
The people over at the ASPCA seem totally unhinged; attacking an entire family like that is just plain disgusting.
That guy carrying dogs around in bags clearly isn't using much brainpower.

Both him and those others mentioned earlier really need some psychiatric evaluation. I’d hate to see someone that clueless leave their kids in a hot car and have them die from dehydration, like that tragic case with those reckless Czech tourists back this summer.

Honestly, making claims like "a serial killer's life is worth more than every dog on Earth" or "I'd save a dog over a hundred people" is enough to make you think they've truly lost their minds.
Andrew Hayes4 Andrew Hayes4 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Jul 2010
#107 ·
Carol Diaz said:Picture this: you, me, and a hamster stranded on a deserted island. To survive, someone has to be sacrificed and consumed. Do you kill me and split the meal with the hamster, kill the hamster and share it with me, or simply succumb to starvation?

Picture this: you, Johnny Štulić, and a hamster stranded on a deserted island. Survival requires a sacrifice. Do you kill Štulić and share him with the hamster, kill the hamster and share it with Štulić, or just die of hunger?

Looks like my last post got nuked—probably too graphic for the mods. Anyway, I'm choosing you to share with the hamster.☕
ironmoose6 ironmoose6 Member
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joined Jan 2016
#108 ·
Ryan Vaughn7 said:Me? If it comes down to my own dog versus a hundred people... well, I'm saving my dog.

Just so you know, saying something like that can land you in prison for a very long time.☕

The mods on this forum should strip you of your privileges immediately, and frankly, they ought to report this statement to the FBI so the authorities can decide how to handle it.☕
ironmoose6 ironmoose6 Member
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joined Jan 2016
#109 ·
Andrew Hayes4 said:Looks like my last post got nuked—probably too graphic for the mods. Anyway, I'm choosing you to share with the hamster.☕

Bottom line? You’re making death threats. Honestly, you should probably just hand this statement over to the FBI and let the feds decide how they want to deal with you.🙂
Andrew Hayes4 Andrew Hayes4 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2010
#110 ·
ironmoose6 said:Bottom line? You’re making death threats. Honestly, you should probably just hand this statement over to the FBI and let the feds decide how they want to deal with you.🙂

Maybe head back to elementary school and brush up on some basic grammar. ☕ Once you actually learn how to write, you might finally grasp concepts like hypothetical scenarios and what legally constitutes a threat under the US Penal Code.
ironmoose6 ironmoose6 Member
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joined Jan 2016
#111 ·
Andrew Hayes4 said:Maybe head back to elementary school and brush up on some basic grammar. ☕ Once you actually learn how to write, you might finally grasp concepts like hypothetical scenarios and what legally constitutes a threat under the US Penal Code.

Honestly, if you could just tell the difference between a typo and a regional dialect, you might actually stand a chance... haha.

dialect😁
Carol Diaz Carol Diaz Member
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joined Apr 2008
#112 ·
Andrew Hayes4 said:Looks like my last post got nuked—probably too graphic for the mods. Anyway, I'm choosing you to share with the hamster.☕

And what about a Đoni?
Patrick Cooper2 Patrick Cooper2 Member
11 messages
joined Oct 2011
#113 ·
ironmoose6 said:Just so you know, saying something like that can land you in prison for a very long time.☕

The mods on this forum should strip you of your privileges immediately, and frankly, they ought to report this statement to the FBI so the authorities can decide how to handle it.☕

I have to admit, if I were in that situation, I’d probably choose my own dog over a million people too—it's just how much we love them. ☕Could you maybe share a link to a reliable source that backs up what you wrote in blue bold? Thanks.
Ryan Gomez4 Ryan Gomez4 Active Member
112 messages
joined Feb 2013
#114 ·
Carol Diaz said:Picture this: you, me, and a hamster stranded on a deserted island. To survive, someone has to be sacrificed and consumed. Do you kill me and split the meal with the hamster, kill the hamster and share it with me, or simply succumb to starvation?

Picture this: you, Johnny Štulić, and a hamster stranded on a deserted island. Survival requires a sacrifice. Do you kill Štulić and share him with the hamster, kill the hamster and share it with Štulić, or just die of hunger?

Look, an island is surrounded by water by definition, even if it's just a little bit. And there’s plenty of food to be found in the ocean. 🙂
Eric Anderson6 Eric Anderson6 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Oct 2011
#115 ·
Patrick Cooper2 said:I have to admit, if I were in that situation, I’d probably choose my own dog over a million people too—it's just how much we love them. ☕Could you maybe share a link to a reliable source that backs up what you wrote in blue bold? Thanks.

Is anyone from your own family in that group of a million? Or would your family be sacrificed before your dog?
Patrick Cooper2 Patrick Cooper2 Member
11 messages
joined Oct 2011
#116 ·
Eric Anderson6 said:Is anyone from your own family in that group of a million? Or would your family be sacrificed before your dog?

A dog is a living, breathing soul, not some stuffed toy, and they truly become part of the family. Asking me that feels a lot like asking if I’d rather save my father or my brother.
Eric Anderson6 Eric Anderson6 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Oct 2011
#117 ·
Patrick Cooper2 said:A dog is a living, breathing soul, not some stuffed toy, and they truly become part of the family. Asking me that feels a lot like asking if I’d rather save my father or my brother.

Nah, nah... that's not even the same thing.
The question is whether you'd save your dad or your dog first, not your dad or your brother.
Robert Hall7 Robert Hall7 Active Member
79 messages
joined Jan 2009
#118 ·
Seriously though, where did everyone go?
Eric Anderson6 Eric Anderson6 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Oct 2011
#119 ·
Not sure if anyone’s actually laid out what went down here yet...
So, here’s the deal—some time back, Mijo Loncar went to an animal shelter to adopt a dog. He picked a female and told them straight up he’d take her if they spayed her, since he didn't have the space for more pets. They promised him they would—but clearly, they didn't. So, he took the dog, and a while later, she ended up having puppies. He managed to find homes for some of them, but decided to take the remaining few back to the shelter.

Then the tragedy happened. And now people are just tearing him apart without even knowing the actual facts.
If he was trying to "get rid" of them, he wouldn't be hauling them to a shelter—he would've just killed them or something. Honestly, maybe spend less time bashing him and more time blaming the people who tricked him into taking a fertile dog in the first place.
silvertiger11 silvertiger11 Active Member
106 messages
joined Jul 2016
#120 ·
Are you seriously trying to tell me he had absolutely no responsibility to look after those dogs?

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