Spirituality and Tarot

wearyowl29 said:We really need to draw a line between what's just a commercial hustle and what's a genuine spiritual journey.

It is much like distinguishing hardware from software. 😉

One comes from the "heart," while the other comes from the "throat."

To put it more bluntly—one is divine, the other is hellish.

Here’s the breakdown: True joy celebrates someone else's progress and well-being. Laughter, however, usually targets someone else's flaws. Now, don't get me wrong—humor can be useful sometimes, but strictly in a masculine setting! (And I mean that purely as a way to point out a buddy's stupidity so he might actually learn from it and change. When it comes to women, you achieve that same goal through seriousness—never by laughing at them.)

Therefore, prayer and laughter don't really go hand-in-hand; prayer requires gravity—even penitence.
Because when we pray, we are petitioning—we are pleading.

Spirituality and humor? Sure, they work together.

But let's be clear: we are free spirits, capable of doing whatever we please.
The catch is, we own every single thing we do.

Jonathan Chase78 said:One comes from the "heart," while the other comes from the "throat."

To put it more bluntly—one is divine, the other is hellish.

Here’s the breakdown: True joy celebrates someone else's progress and well-being. Laughter, however, usually targets someone else's flaws. Now, don't get me wrong—humor can be useful sometimes, but strictly in a masculine setting! (And I mean that purely as a way to point out a buddy's stupidity so he might actually learn from it and change. When it comes to women, you achieve that same goal through seriousness—never by laughing at them.)

Therefore, prayer and laughter don't really go hand-in-hand; prayer requires gravity—even penitence.
Because when we pray, we are petitioning—we are pleading.

Spirituality and humor? Sure, they work together.

But let's be clear: we are free spirits, capable of doing whatever we please.
The catch is, we own every single thing we do.

So, the devil speaks through the throat... talk about a "deep throat" situation, huh?😂

The throat is merely the instrument used to carry the message; it isn't the music itself.

wearyowl29 said:So, the devil speaks through the throat... talk about a "deep throat" situation, huh?😂

The throat is merely the instrument used to carry the message; it isn't the music itself.

What I was at the beginning—well, that’s exactly what I remain at the end.
Is there anything quite as predictable as the musician who insists on clinging to that one "vintage" instrument? You know the type—the ones who act like their beat-up, decades-old gear is some kind of sacred relic, rather than just an old piece of equipment that’s seen better days.
But let’s be real—my music sounds nothing like it did when I first started.

I’ve finally brought everything back into alignment with the Universe—
Now, I’ve reached that point where I don't even dream about being awake anymore—it's all just one long, surreal fever dream.
Some people say they’re just "dreaming"... Well, I know I am.

wearyowl29 said:If spirituality actually had a destination, then even the Bible would have legs to walk on...😂
Spirituality is just one endless journey through different lifetimes.

Look, if we don't have a goal, we're basically just wandering aimlessly. You don't even need spirituality if you're just going to drift through life forever.

Jonathan Chase78 said:What I was at the beginning—well, that’s exactly what I remain at the end.
Is there anything quite as predictable as the musician who insists on clinging to that one "vintage" instrument? You know the type—the ones who act like their beat-up, decades-old gear is some kind of sacred relic, rather than just an old piece of equipment that’s seen better days.
But let’s be real—my music sounds nothing like it did when I first started.

I’ve finally brought everything back into alignment with the Universe—
Now, I’ve reached that point where I don't even dream about being awake anymore—it's all just one long, surreal fever dream.
Some people say they’re just "dreaming"... Well, I know I am.

So you aren't even dreaming about being a butterfly???

wearyhawk83 said:Look, if we don't have a goal, we're basically just wandering aimlessly. You don't even need spirituality if you're just going to drift through life forever.

So what’s the goal then? Is it even reachable?🤷...I feel like we gather all our real experiences while we're wandering.
Without those experiences, you can't truly realize any kind of spirituality.

Honestly, spirituality isn't a requirement for navigating life...for that, you mostly just need legs!

wearyowl29 said:So what’s the goal then? Is it even reachable?🤷...I feel like we gather all our real experiences while we're wandering.
Without those experiences, you can't truly realize any kind of spirituality.

Honestly, spirituality isn't a requirement for navigating life...for that, you mostly just need legs!

Look, goals are pretty much always there, whether we realize it or not. It’s not about "achieving" spirituality—it’s about the person growing.

Spirituality isn't even a requirement for getting through life...for that, you mostly just need legs.

Sure, having legs to move around is a necessity. But wearing fancy leather boots? Not so much.

wearyowl29 said:Honestly, I’ve yet to hear of anyone using those cards to unite with the Kingdom of God or any other kingdom! It’s a bit backwards, isn't it? You have to find your own center and figure out who you truly are first. Only then can you actually head out on that journey to connect with the Source.

When you speak of the Source, with that grand capitalized I, are you referring to God? Do you actually hold a belief in the Infinite Source? If so, which books regarding the Infinite have guided you, and whose specific wisdom led you to these realizations?

The Tarot is essentially a sacred book. It’s just painted rather than written.
There is a legend suggesting that ancient Egyptian priests, sensing their civilization was on the brink of collapse, encoded all their wisdom into symbols and ciphers. They hid this knowledge within a game to ensure it would never vanish from the face of the Earth. That is how the Tarot came to be.
Some people sit down to play poker, while others are performing the highest forms of spiritual work and meditation.

Just a heads-up: 99% of the people claiming to "predict the future" with cards aren't actually using the Tarot—they're using standard fortune-telling decks. There is a massive difference.

As for astrology, yes, it is a spiritual science. But it touches every facet of human existence, including those aspects that might not seem spiritual at first glance (though, really, nothing is non-spiritual).

Magic is just as much about the material world as it is about the spiritual one.

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wearyowl29 said:Spirituality is an endless journey through multiple lifetimes.

Lifeas...? I wonder how you mean that, because I truly feel it might be much healthier for a person to focus on this one singular life they are living right now, while perhaps placing all those "other lives" into a different category entirely—much like where we tuck away our wildest dreams, fantasies, and idle imaginings...

Mark Miller6 said:When you speak of the Source, with that grand capitalized I, are you referring to God? Do you actually hold a belief in the Infinite Source? If so, which books regarding the Infinite have guided you, and whose specific wisdom led you to these realizations?

The Source exists. Honestly, whether I believe in it or not doesn't even matter, because reality isn't up for debate—it just *is*. I’m down here, the Source is up there, and my level of faith? It’s secondary. To be fair, I truly believe a new day will dawn tomorrow, but let's be real: one day, the sun will rise and I simply won't be here to see it. So, what does that say about my faith? It means I believe in a Source that exists and can actually be felt. It's real. And with that realization, I think I'll just head home.

Life gave me the directions, but honestly, the books were what made the journey worth taking!

Mark Miller6 said:Lifeas...? I wonder how you mean that, because I truly feel it might be much healthier for a person to focus on this one singular life they are living right now, while perhaps placing all those "other lives" into a different category entirely—much like where we tuck away our wildest dreams, fantasies, and idle imaginings...

Plurality...
But what if you can actually feel your past lives???

It seems to me that the Source definitely exists, though whether you choose to believe in it shouldn't really matter... yet, by your own logic, you clearly do... or perhaps you are simply being contradictory to yourself, or maybe there is just a hint of hesitation within what you call a "firm" conviction...

wearyowl29 said:Plurality...
But what if you can actually feel your past lives???

How exactly could one sense their previous existences, assuming they even existed in the first place? And if those feelings are real, does it suggest there is another life waiting for us on the other side?

Mark Miller6 said:It seems to me that the Source definitely exists, though whether you choose to believe in it shouldn't really matter... yet, by your own logic, you clearly do... or perhaps you are simply being contradictory to yourself, or maybe there is just a hint of hesitation within what you call a "firm" conviction...

Exactly! I mean, honestly, who cares what I believe anyway???

The Source???

The Republican Party???

Mark Miller6 said:How exactly could one sense their previous existences, assuming they even existed in the first place? And if those feelings are real, does it suggest there is another life waiting for us on the other side?

I feel it... at least, subjectively speaking.😁

A new life? Oh, absolutely. It’s a sure thing...

wearyowl29 said:Exactly! I mean, honestly, who cares what I believe anyway???

The Source???

The Republican Party???

Just to keep this discussion moving forward...

wearyowl29 said:Exactly! I mean, honestly, who cares what I believe anyway???

The Source???

The Republican Party???

It certainly isn't to him...

wearyowl29 said:Exactly! I mean, honestly, who cares what I believe anyway???

The Source???

The Republican Party???

I believe that Jadranka Kosor exists... and she could just as easily be invisible when money starts disappearing...

wearyowl29 said:I feel it... at least, subjectively speaking.😁

A new life? Oh, absolutely. It’s a sure thing...

Well, "subjective"... that’s certainly one way to put it... but all jokes aside, perhaps there is something waiting for us after this life, though I can find no evidence of any lives before this one... and even if they did exist, it hardly matters since we have no memory of them, so while you might feel a subjective connection, it won't bring the "old you" back to life...

Mark Miller6 said:Well, "subjective"... that’s certainly one way to put it... but all jokes aside, perhaps there is something waiting for us after this life, though I can find no evidence of any lives before this one... and even if they did exist, it hardly matters since we have no memory of them, so while you might feel a subjective connection, it won't bring the "old you" back to life...

Alright fine, we can skip the lemon!