Spirituality and Tarot

wearyowl29 said:So you aren't even dreaming about being a butterfly???

Wonderful—so you're familiar with the tarot card (spirituality), I see. Now, why don't you just try being the image itself?

The reason:

"Let the little children come to Me, and do not hinder them, for theirs is the heavenly kingdom."

Truly, He said, unless one receives the kingdom of God like a child, they will absolutely—under no circumstances—ever enter it.

Otherwise, if you don't, the road can be incredibly long, and the destination? Well, that’s distant and questionable at best.
It’s all too easy to lose your way and wander aimlessly for what feels like an eternity.

Jonathan Chase78 said:Wonderful—so you're familiar with the tarot card (spirituality), I see. Now, why don't you just try being the image itself?

The reason:

"Let the little children come to Me, and do not hinder them, for theirs is the heavenly kingdom."

Truly, He said, unless one receives the kingdom of God like a child, they will absolutely—under no circumstances—ever enter it.

Otherwise, if you don't, the road can be incredibly long, and the destination? Well, that’s distant and questionable at best.
It’s all too easy to lose your way and wander aimlessly for what feels like an eternity.

Honestly, this has absolutely nothing to do with the butterfly...😢

wearyowl29 said:Honestly, this has absolutely nothing to do with the butterfly...😢

Of course it does—though I suppose that depends entirely on how you interpret things.

Kids love playing with butterflies; in a way, they are just like them.
Except, you know, they're missing the wings.

Jonathan Chase78 said:Of course it does—though I suppose that depends entirely on how you interpret things.

Kids love playing with butterflies; in a way, they are just like them.
Except, you know, they're missing the wings.

But what about the caterpillar???

wearyowl29 said:But what about the caterpillar???

Egg – Caterpillar – Chrysalis – Butterfly … Man – God!

Natural — … — Heavenly!

The cycle of life.

Jonathan Chase78 said:Egg – Caterpillar – Chrysalis – Butterfly … Man – God!

Natural — … — Heavenly!

The cycle of life.

Heavenly circus😂

wearyowl29 said:Heavenly circus😂

I suppose you could look at it that way. Then again, everything depends entirely on the perspective of the observer, doesn't it?

There isn't exactly a circus up in the heavens.

But in other realms, there are people—performers, if you will—who spend their lives trapped in a circus of their own making.
And when we use the word "circus," we can pretty much mean whatever we want, right?
For these performers, those little spectacles are essentially just their own private versions of hell.

Jonathan Chase78 said:I suppose you could look at it that way. Then again, everything depends entirely on the perspective of the observer, doesn't it?

There isn't exactly a circus up in the heavens.

But in other realms, there are people—performers, if you will—who spend their lives trapped in a circus of their own making.
And when we use the word "circus," we can pretty much mean whatever we want, right?
For these performers, those little spectacles are essentially just their own private versions of hell.

I should have known things wouldn't be moving forward without a mention of hell...😲

Just like all the true travelers out there... we’re going to cross paths eventually. I was just thinking about that old caravan shed sitting out by the edge of town. It’s funny how those little structures just sit there, weathering the seasons, tucked away near the outskirts of a city like Chicago or maybe somewhere in the Midwest. You look at them and you can't help but wonder about everything they've seen. I remember my uncle used to keep an old workshop just like that out behind his place in Ohio—it was full of rusted tools and sawdust, but it felt like the most peaceful spot on earth. There's something about a simple shed that makes you stop and reflect. Just a quiet, lonely little spot waiting for someone to come along and give it a purpose again.
Getting hitched, saying "I do"... and then continuing the journey toward the dawn.

Just imagine if every traveler in the world gathered in one single spot... like massive caravans pouring in from every corner of space, all traveling together. Through my own music.And just like that, we’re back in sync with the harmony of Eternity. 😍

I stumbled upon this truly magnificent website dedicated entirely to the art of tarot. It offers such an expansive array of perspectives—everything from historical and cultural deep dives to the more mystical, occult, and contemplative aspects, not to mention the realms of divination, theurgy, and pure artistic expression...

http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/

And they even have a forum if you're looking for community:

http://www.tarotforum.net/

I'm curious about how tarot actually works, if it even does. A few years back, I called a reading service, gave them my name and birth date, and then told them to stop shuffling. This person started telling me things about myself. They "hit" on details they had absolutely no way of knowing. I hadn't said a word, and unlike some astrologers, they weren't fishing for info. They just knew.

How is that possible? 😁 I don't really get the mechanism behind it.

wearyowl29 said:I should have known things wouldn't be moving forward without a mention of hell...😲

Fire might be too much for an immature soul to handle—but for those who have truly come of age? It’s exactly what we need.

blueraven6 said:I'm curious about how tarot actually works, if it even does. A few years back, I called a reading service, gave them my name and birth date, and then told them to stop shuffling. This person started telling me things about myself. They "hit" on details they had absolutely no way of knowing. I hadn't said a word, and unlike some astrologers, they weren't fishing for info. They just knew.

How is that possible? 😁 I don't really get the mechanism behind it.

You’re the one playing tarot; those images are nothing more than mirrors—there's no such thing as coincidence!
The logic is simple, really—the better you get at understanding your own internal wiring, the easier it becomes to decode everyone else. It’s all connected, isn't it?
The logic is pretty straightforward—the more you master your body, cleanse your soul, and awaken your spirit, the more clarity you gain. It’s simple, really: greater self-mastery equals greater insight. Or am I overthinking it?

If she didn't pull this off solo, then she definitely had some help from her crew.
You get exactly what you pay for when it comes to help—it’s a simple equation, really. If you want top-tier talent, don't expect to find them working for peanuts.

Only within the truth can one find the truth.

Jonathan Chase78 said:Fire might be too much for an immature soul to handle—but for those who have truly come of age? It’s exactly what we need.

You’re the one playing tarot; those images are nothing more than mirrors—there's no such thing as coincidence!
The logic is simple, really—the better you get at understanding your own internal wiring, the easier it becomes to decode everyone else. It’s all connected, isn't it?
The logic is pretty straightforward—the more you master your body, cleanse your soul, and awaken your spirit, the more clarity you gain. It’s simple, really: greater self-mastery equals greater insight. Or am I overthinking it?

If she didn't pull this off solo, then she definitely had some help from her crew.
You get exactly what you pay for when it comes to help—it’s a simple equation, really. If you want top-tier talent, don't expect to find them working for peanuts.

Only within the truth can one find the truth.

🙂

Brilliant—I’m nominating you for Educator of the Year!

Jonathan Chase78 said:Fire might be too much for an immature soul to handle—but for those who have truly come of age? It’s exactly what we need.

You’re the one playing tarot; those images are nothing more than mirrors—there's no such thing as coincidence!
The logic is simple, really—the better you get at understanding your own internal wiring, the easier it becomes to decode everyone else. It’s all connected, isn't it?
The logic is pretty straightforward—the more you master your body, cleanse your soul, and awaken your spirit, the more clarity you gain. It’s simple, really: greater self-mastery equals greater insight. Or am I overthinking it?

If she didn't pull this off solo, then she definitely had some help from her crew.
You get exactly what you pay for when it comes to help—it’s a simple equation, really. If you want top-tier talent, don't expect to find them working for peanuts.

Only within the truth can one find the truth.

That makes sense, I suppose, but why do I feel like she hit on things over the phone that she couldn't have known? I didn't tell her anything besides my name and birthday.

wearyowl29 said:🙂

Brilliant—I’m nominating you for Educator of the Year!

Thanks, but no thanks.
Keep that free spirit of yours alive, but don't let the world lull you into a stupor—you wouldn't want to fall asleep at the wheel, would you?

blueraven6 said:That makes sense, I suppose, but why do I feel like she hit on things over the phone that she couldn't have known? I didn't tell her anything besides my name and birthday.

Well, if she knows how to use the key and the open door you've provided—namely, your data and your increasingly generous goodwill—then nothing is too easy for her. The higher you climb, or the deeper you venture, the more clearly everything comes into view, doesn't it?

Guard your willpower! Be careful; don't just hand it out to anyone who asks.

Seek first the heavenly kingdom, and everything else will fall into place.

Jonathan Chase78 said:Thanks, but no thanks.
Keep that free spirit of yours alive, but don't let the world lull you into a stupor—you wouldn't want to fall asleep at the wheel, would you?

Well, if she knows how to use the key and the open door you've provided—namely, your data and your increasingly generous goodwill—then nothing is too easy for her. The higher you climb, or the deeper you venture, the more clearly everything comes into view, doesn't it?

Guard your willpower! Be careful; don't just hand it out to anyone who asks.

Seek first the heavenly kingdom, and everything else will fall into place.

Let's just say the world and I aren't exactly on speaking terms.

I agree with sap, the OP. In a broad sense, this is all about spirituality because we’re all connected to space. But looking at this section, it feels like it's strictly focused on individual spirituality.

Predicting the future through things like tarot or beans is honestly ridiculous to me. The future doesn't actually exist. There are just different paths that can unfold, and sometimes they intersect with our own choices and free will, creating entirely new directions.

On the flip side, tarot or anything else could work if you view it as chance. It’s a way to use concentration and willpower to channel your energy into an object, which then points out what is likely to happen.

I hope that last part made sense. It might sound a bit complex, but I stand by it.

Best,

wearyowl29 said:Let's just say the world and I aren't exactly on speaking terms.

Whether it's secret or public—it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, a person makes their own choices and decides their own fate.
(And according to our faith, that's how we'll be judged.)

Matthew Ruiz8 said:I agree with sap, the OP. In a broad sense, this is all about spirituality because we’re all connected to space. But looking at this section, it feels like it's strictly focused on individual spirituality.

Predicting the future through things like tarot or beans is honestly ridiculous to me. The future doesn't actually exist. There are just different paths that can unfold, and sometimes they intersect with our own choices and free will, creating entirely new directions.

On the flip side, tarot or anything else could work if you view it as chance. It’s a way to use concentration and willpower to channel your energy into an object, which then points out what is likely to happen.

I hope that last part made sense. It might sound a bit complex, but I stand by it.

Best,

Road signs—assuming they’re actually correct, placed in the right spots, and convey information that anyone can actually make sense of—are incredibly useful for a traveler. They provide much-needed guidance along the way, specifically by warning you about what's coming up ahead.

But can someone who hasn't actually walked the path themselves really claim to know the route? Can they offer advice, set up signposts, or explain the journey to others? (Know thyself.)

Revealing the future through some special method to someone who isn't prepared is generally a bad idea. It does more harm than good. Besides, "the future" as such doesn't even exist; it is governed by the free human spirit (willpower).
Everyone's first task is to develop or awaken that spirit within themselves. (Only then will He lead them into all the truth!)

So, to put it "very simply":
The one who is on the right path (mastering their body, cleansing their soul, and awakening their spirit) has a future, while the one who isn't, simply does not.

Tarot is honestly just a gimmick for people who cling to the idea that their lives are prewritten scripts waiting to be read in a deck of cards. What a joke... it has absolutely nothing to do with actual spirituality; it’s just a desperate grab for certainty fueled by pure superstition.
The cards don't predict anything; they just act as a mirror for the deepest cravings, desires, and delusions of whoever is shuffling them. That’s it. Since character is destiny, it’s incredibly easy to make those kinds of "predictions."
🙂

Henry Lopez10 said:Tarot is honestly just a gimmick for people who cling to the idea that their lives are prewritten scripts waiting to be read in a deck of cards. What a joke... it has absolutely nothing to do with actual spirituality; it’s just a desperate grab for certainty fueled by pure superstition.
The cards don't predict anything; they just act as a mirror for the deepest cravings, desires, and delusions of whoever is shuffling them. That’s it. Since character is destiny, it’s incredibly easy to make those kinds of "predictions."
🙂

Oh, brilliant!
Look, if someone possesses a strong personality—real character—and they make a firm decision and actually stick to it, success isn't just likely; it's inevitable. In other words, their future is practically set. But if they have a weak character, if they're indecisive, or even if they *do* decide but lack the grit to follow through? They get zero results—which means, again, no defined future.

For example: If the first person sets out on the road to Rome, they’ll probably actually make it to Rome. For the second person, however, it’s just a long, aimless wander through the wilderness—a state of constant hesitation. Why? It all comes down to their character.

The more internal light a person carries, the clearer they become—either to themselves or through some sort of "living" spiritual guidance.
And the brighter that light shines, the more clarity they provide to those around them.
That radiance emanates from within, illuminating (and influencing) everything in their orbit.
They see the path more clearly and navigate it with much more ease. (Ultimately, the spirit and the intensity of one's inner light define their boundaries.)
(You are the light of the world! ...)

But, should they allow that inner light to dim, they fall into a double darkness—becoming, essentially, a "living" ghost.
(Whatever remains alive within you is yours, and it will stay that way forever!)