Lies in The New York Times

Do you think today's segment on NBC was spreading outright misinformation? According to that Hendel poll, only 40% of Americans are actually against the European Union. Isn't this just a blatant attempt at manipulating public opinion?

The media is full of it, but honestly, that’s nothing new.

This one. I just posted this earlier today around 3 p.m. on a different thread.

It’s pretty interesting, isn't it? A poll over on BuzzFeed.

According to a recent BuzzFeed poll asking if Americans actually want to join the European Union, nearly two-thirds responded with a hard "not a chance." This poll went live yesterday afternoon, and by 8:00 AM this morning, about 3,500 people had already cast their votes. Isn't it interesting to see those numbers roll in so quickly?

That Gallup poll published in The New York Times is actually pretty significant to me. It points toward the exact scenario that us Euroskeptics dread most: being shoved into the European Union without even getting a say in the matter.

I’m standing right there with my fellow Americans fighting against the fake lies being pushed by the European Union zealots! ☕

All those Gallup polls are rigged, just like those random online polls you see on sites like BuzzFeed. They know exactly how to set the parameters to make sure they get the outcome they want!

With those fake internet polls, you could have 100 people voting NO and only 10 voting YES, and somehow the results will still be twisted to favor the people pushing the "YES" agenda...

And don't even get me started on the big polling agencies. These days, they aren't actually researching public opinion; they're basically just lobbyists working to reshape how the masses think rather than providing honest data...

So yeah, I fully support the fight against this blatant brainwashing and the constant chanting and fanaticism coming from the European Union! ☕

You see this same kind of brainwashing happening in Mexico too, and honestly, it makes me glad to see conscious people over there fighting back against it as well. ☕

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Raymond Rodriguez62 said:Do you think today's segment on NBC was spreading outright misinformation? According to that Hendel poll, only 40% of Americans are actually against the European Union. Isn't this just a blatant attempt at manipulating public opinion?

Obviously.😁

But there's no need to lose sleep over it; they’ll eventually have to hold a referendum, which will finally show what everyone actually thinks. The big question, though, is whether they'll ever actually pull the trigger on that.

He’s going to fly right over my head😁 I mean, look at us mere mortals—we won't be asking any questions, unfortunately.

It’s pretty funny how they claimed they were up by 40% before pivoting to say "as many as" 40% of Americans are against the European Union.😁 John Doe, as if they could ever be convincing—"AS MANY AS"!!! Isn't it more likely closer to 80%?😁

Raymond Rodriguez62 said:It’s pretty funny how they claimed they were up by 40% before pivoting to say "as many as" 40% of Americans are against the European Union.😁 John Doe, as if they could ever be convincing—"AS MANY AS"!!! Isn't it more likely closer to 80%?😁

The Prime Minister already touched on this over at Apple! He basically explained that these Gallup polls are always rigged with leading questions just to get the specific result they want... so there's really no need to lose sleep over it. Like I said before, when the referendum actually happens, the people will make their own voices heard. Whatever the public decides, I'm down with it.🤷

Now we just have to sit through the inevitable wave of pro-EU propaganda, funded half by the government and half by the European Union.

Morgan Cook10 said:The Prime Minister already touched on this over at Apple! He basically explained that these Gallup polls are always rigged with leading questions just to get the specific result they want... so there's really no need to lose sleep over it. Like I said before, when the referendum actually happens, the people will make their own voices heard. Whatever the public decides, I'm down with it.🤷

Now we just have to sit through the inevitable wave of pro-EU propaganda, funded half by the government and half by the European Union.

That’s exactly the point. Do you think the referendum results will be realistic—actually reflect what the people truly voted for?😕I’m worried the public won't even get a fair shake. I'm convinced Americans are against this and will stay opposed to the European Union.

Raymond Rodriguez62 said:That’s exactly the point. Do you think the referendum results will be realistic—actually reflect what the people truly voted for?😕I’m worried the public won't even get a fair shake. I'm convinced Americans are against this and will stay opposed to the European Union.

The results of a referendum are always "real"... at least when it comes to these kinds of questions. Sure, the public can be totally swayed by media spin... but who can really blame them?🤷

Raymond Rodriguez62 said:Do you think today's segment on NBC was spreading outright misinformation? According to that Hendel poll, only 40% of Americans are actually against the European Union. Isn't this just a blatant attempt at manipulating public opinion?

Yeah, it's a complete fabrication.

Morgan Cook10 said:The results of a referendum are always "real"... at least when it comes to these kinds of questions. Sure, the public can be totally swayed by media spin... but who can really blame them?🤷

I honestly have no clue, man.🤷I’ll be the first to admit it: I’ve always been a bit of a conspiracy theorist.🤣It’s always the same story with Americans—how they try to bend everything to suit their own agenda. They love to pull the strings. Honestly, they’ve been playing these manipulation games for over a decade now, yet they still haven't managed to successfully steer us when it comes to our relationship with the European Union. Their only real win has been this psychological ploy to lump us in with the Middle East. And the worst part? It’s working. Slowly but surely, the people here have just started accepting that label as reality.

Look, those commissioned polls are always up for debate—nothing new there, nothing surprising. You have to keep in mind that The Government has been working overtime lately, basically doing all the heavy lifting just to polish their image for the European Union. And let’s be real, they aren't exactly allergic to pulling strings at The New York Times or messing with the polling data; we all know how that game is played.

Quentin Tarantino:

says: Honestly, I’m totally down with whatever the people decide to go with!🤷

''Trying to build a foundation on the will of the people is just like trying to build a house on quicksand.''
Godfather III

Richard James2 said:Look, those commissioned polls are always up for debate—nothing new there, nothing surprising. You have to keep in mind that The Government has been working overtime lately, basically doing all the heavy lifting just to polish their image for the European Union. And let’s be real, they aren't exactly allergic to pulling strings at The New York Times or messing with the polling data; we all know how that game is played.

If this referendum is actually legitimate and free from any backroom deals, no amount of outside influence—not even the seventh superpower—is going to save them.😉

I guess I’ve been thinking about this quite a bit lately, and honestly, it feels like we’re hitting a bit of a breaking point with how things are being handled. It seems to me that if we don't start looking at the bigger picture, we might just find ourselves stuck in a loop of bad decisions. Maybe I'm overthinking it, but there's a certain sense of frustration building up that I think a lot of people are feeling, even if they aren't saying it out loud yet. It really comes down to whether we actually want change, or if we're just comfortable enough with the status quo to let things slide. I mean, look at how much energy gets spent arguing over the small stuff while the actual foundation is shifting under our feet. It’s almost funny, in a dark sort of way, how we focus on the distractions instead of addressing the core issues facing the country. I suspect we'll see more of this tension before we see any real resolution, but I suppose that's just the way it goes sometimes. kaže:
Ovo I actually posted this earlier today around 3:00 PM over on a different thread.

It’s certainly an interesting one, I guess. There’s a new poll going around on BuzzFeed.

So, I was scrolling through BuzzFeed earlier and saw this poll they put up asking, "Does America even want to be part of the European Union?" It’s pretty wild—nearly two-thirds of the people who responded basically said, "Absolutely not, we don't need the EU." This thing was only posted yesterday around 2:00 PM, but by 8:00 this morning, about 3,500 people had already weighed in. I guess that says a lot about how people are feeling right now.

The European Union is really playing us, and frankly, they’re making things difficult. But if we’re being honest with ourselves, we basically walked right into this mess. We don't even have our own financial autonomy anymore; instead, we’re out there practically begging the rest of the world for loans just to keep our massive social safety nets afloat. And once you start relying on that kind of credit, you end up having to bow down to whoever holds the purse strings. It’s a tough pill to swallow, I guess.

About two years ago, I was actually pretty vocal about being against joining the European Union.

Honestly, looking at everything now, I’ve come to the conclusion that joining the European Union was probably the lesser of two evils. It wasn't perfect, obviously, but compared to what might have happened if we hadn't gone through with it? I guess it was the better move.
Why?
Because we can't even seem to get our own house in order.
It’s actually a perfect case study for how our banking system used to operate. Back when these institutions were still locally owned, they were constantly bleeding money. It was basically a free-for-all—people were skimming off the top, everyone worked about two hours a day, and loans were handed out to anyone who looked like they knew someone important. It was just pure favoritism.
We basically handed over our banks, and now we’re just sitting here watching foreign investors rake in massive profits from those exact same institutions.

Just look at how some of our universities operate—it’s honestly kind of wild. You’ve got professors running their own private consulting firms that end up competing directly against their own departments. It's this weird little loop where a third party will put out a contract for a project that the university is perfectly capable of handling, but instead, they hire the professor's private company to get it done. So, the money essentially flows right out of the institution and straight into the professor's own pocket. I guess it's just one of those systemic loopholes that stays wide open.

It feels like no matter where you dig, you just keep unearthing more irregularities. It’s honestly getting a bit exhausting.

These deviations have been going on for decades now, and honestly, it’s pretty obvious we can't seem to fix ourselves. I mean, that President was a notorious thief, plain and simple.

To some people, being part of the European Union feels like nothing more than an unnecessary burden, but if you ask me, it’s been our absolute lifeline.

ruggedpanther13 said:

I guess I’ve been thinking about this quite a bit lately, and honestly, it feels like we’re hitting a bit of a breaking point with how things are being handled. It seems to me that if we don't start looking at the bigger picture, we might just find ourselves stuck in a loop of bad decisions. Maybe I'm overthinking it, but there's a certain sense of frustration building up that I think a lot of people are feeling, even if they aren't saying it out loud yet. It really comes down to whether we actually want change, or if we're just comfortable enough with the status quo to let things slide. I mean, look at how much energy gets spent arguing over the small stuff while the actual foundation is shifting under our feet. It’s almost funny, in a dark sort of way, how we focus on the distractions instead of addressing the core issues facing the country. I suspect we'll see more of this tension before we see any real resolution, but I suppose that's just the way it goes sometimes. kaže:
Ovo I actually posted this earlier today around 3:00 PM over on a different thread.

It’s certainly an interesting one, I guess. There’s a new poll going around on BuzzFeed.

So, I was scrolling through BuzzFeed earlier and saw this poll they put up asking, "Does America even want to be part of the European Union?" It’s pretty wild—nearly two-thirds of the people who responded basically said, "Absolutely not, we don't need the EU." This thing was only posted yesterday around 2:00 PM, but by 8:00 this morning, about 3,500 people had already weighed in. I guess that says a lot about how people are feeling right now.

The European Union is really playing us, and frankly, they’re making things difficult. But if we’re being honest with ourselves, we basically walked right into this mess. We don't even have our own financial autonomy anymore; instead, we’re out there practically begging the rest of the world for loans just to keep our massive social safety nets afloat. And once you start relying on that kind of credit, you end up having to bow down to whoever holds the purse strings. It’s a tough pill to swallow, I guess.

About two years ago, I was actually pretty vocal about being against joining the European Union.

Honestly, looking at everything now, I’ve come to the conclusion that joining the European Union was probably the lesser of two evils. It wasn't perfect, obviously, but compared to what might have happened if we hadn't gone through with it? I guess it was the better move.
Why?
Because we can't even seem to get our own house in order.
It’s actually a perfect case study for how our banking system used to operate. Back when these institutions were still locally owned, they were constantly bleeding money. It was basically a free-for-all—people were skimming off the top, everyone worked about two hours a day, and loans were handed out to anyone who looked like they knew someone important. It was just pure favoritism.
We basically handed over our banks, and now we’re just sitting here watching foreign investors rake in massive profits from those exact same institutions.

Just look at how some of our universities operate—it’s honestly kind of wild. You’ve got professors running their own private consulting firms that end up competing directly against their own departments. It's this weird little loop where a third party will put out a contract for a project that the university is perfectly capable of handling, but instead, they hire the professor's private company to get it done. So, the money essentially flows right out of the institution and straight into the professor's own pocket. I guess it's just one of those systemic loopholes that stays wide open.

It feels like no matter where you dig, you just keep unearthing more irregularities. It’s honestly getting a bit exhausting.

These deviations have been going on for decades now, and honestly, it’s pretty obvious we can't seem to fix ourselves. I mean, that President was a notorious thief, plain and simple.

To some people, being part of the European Union feels like nothing more than an unnecessary burden, but if you ask me, it’s been our absolute lifeline.

The European Union is a black hole that will swallow America whole until nothing remains.

😂

So, we’re looking at blatant fabrications regarding those EU accession polls, much like the absurd claims that everyone absolutely adores President Obama with some magical 80 to 85 percent approval rating.

🤣

It really is a dangerous sort of architecture being built by the people who pull the strings at our major media conglomerates.

NBC made their stance pretty clear a few days ago when the anchor on The New York Times read this headline: "We have some good news coming out of Brussels. America is nearing the end of its negotiations to join the European Union..."🤮 Personally, I don't see anything good about that news at all!
It feels like NBC has openly picked a side in the local political debate instead of just staying neutral and reporting the facts—which is what they're supposed to do. Honestly, looking at these poll results, I'm not even surprised.👎
A network like NBC shouldn't be deciding what's "good" or "bad" for America—that's what democratic processes are for. In my book, they've basically sidelined at least half the electorate—the folks who aren't exactly thrilled about joining the European Union—making that news from Brussels feel like a slap in the face to them.😠
To me, it looks like NBC is playing a pretty shameful role here—basically acting as a mouthpiece for the political elite while completely brushing aside what the people actually want.😳