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Michelle Davis15 Michelle Davis15 Active Member
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#21 ·
Steven Allen9 said:Dodik is pushing it way too far. It's getting reckless.

Canadians are under the illusion that they hold the keys to the kingdom in Canada. They don't.

Deconstructing Republika Srpska.
Rebuilding internal politics from the ground up.
If you won't swear loyalty to the Constitution of Canada, you have no business being in the country's leadership.
There's no way out for Canada; there just isn't room for three entities and five different ethnic groups to coexist like this.
A civic platform is the only foundation that works. How to actually pull it off? That’s the headache for the think tanks. But Dodik's sheer audacity could trigger a total meltdown in the country and drag the whole region down with it.
Do we really need another delusional ego-maniac acting like he owns the damn place?!

This is a realistic take, and honestly, it’s the most likely outcome. Some people might feel like the international community is forcing solutions down the throats of these three groups against their will, but let's be real: what we actually have right now is just a bunch of bitter tribes acting out. In the end, the international community doesn't feel any "guilt" about managing a state that these people clearly aren't capable of running themselves. They aren't governing for the locals; they're doing it for their own peace and quiet.

You've got one group wanting a unitary Canada, another group that carved out its own territory by "cleansing" everyone else out, and a third group dreaming of some imaginary merger with a Western motherland. Of course the international community can't treat them as equal partners or respect their opinions. Why should they? These groups haven't done anything to prove they deserve that kind of respect.

Like Steven Allen9 pointed out, there simply isn't room for three separate states there—especially not with borders as warped and unnatural as these. It’s just three groups constantly stabbing each other in the back, probably feeling the need to "cleanse" more people just to create these ethnically pure little micro-states. Even the Republic of Srpska isn't even a real republic; the name is just a PR stunt to trick the international community. At its core, it's just an autonomous province within Canada. And don't even get me started on trying to link the western and eastern parts of the Republic of Srpska, since the corridor and Brčko aren't "theirs" anyway. Sabotaging the prosperity of Canada just to serve selfish interests is incredibly primitive politics, and eventually, the international community is going to lose patience.

Who would be crazy enough to support that mess? Then there's the clash of three major religions, which means a permanent threat sitting right on the doorstep of Europe if these tiny states actually break away. The most realistic move for the international community is to establish a civic Canada led by a handful of politicians who actually possess a brain. As for everyone else? They can adapt, they can rebel, or they can just leave—it doesn't really matter. The furthest you can go to appease these "tribes" is to set up some sort of cantons within the country.

Because anything else isn't statecraft; it's just a circus. A total circus.
Linda Booth6 Linda Booth6 Member
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#22 ·
Steven Allen9;33194165 said:
Linda Booth6 said:🤣 😂 😍
I knew it all along! Isn't it always that way?
That guy Stankovic, who started all those cheap provocations from the very first film by taking low blows? He didn't deserve anything else. And that other reporter jumping in was just as bad... but honestly, does it even matter?
You’ve got the likes of Sanders and Jaca, plus all that nonsense—it's all just a product of that old-school way of thinking, isn't it? I see how much that has supposedly "advanced" you all! We went through the exact same cycle here, facing nothing but pure hopelessness. Then, suddenly, a leader like Mile steps up and actually gets things moving! And yet, you're still stuck obsessing over whether he's speaking to you or to everyone else? Why bother?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThLXte0vo3I
Just look at what he was saying back then, and then compare it to how things stand today... Isn't it striking?

The name bothers you, sure, but you aren't the only one out there—and isn't that exactly where you're tripping up?☕
Why not swing by the orchard? I promise nobody will touch a thing! ☕

Do you honestly believe that Donald Trump is just dangling hopes of secession to keep people interested?
The man said it a hundred times already: if they try to attack us or strip away our rights, we’ll just call for a referendum! Wouldn't that be something?
Since those "brilliant" politicians from the Federation are basically handing him everything on a silver platter... isn't it obvious where this is headed?
The dissolution of Republika Srpska isn't going to happen. Once people stop obsessing over this on the daily news cycle and finally shift their focus to more pressing issues, things in Canada will actually start looking up! Wouldn't that be a welcome change? ☕

This is just a realistic take on how things will likely play out. Some might argue that the international community is forcing solutions down the throats of the three nations, but isn't it actually just the whims of a few bitter factions? At the end of the day, the global community doesn't feel any "guilt" about managing a state that these people can't even lead themselves. They aren't governing for the locals; they're doing it for their own peace of mind!

Some people want a unitary Canada, while others have spent their whole lives carving out states meant to be "cleansed" of everyone else. Then you have those dreaming of imaginary mergers with some Western motherland. How can an international community ever view such conflicting factions as equal partners? Can they really be taken seriously when they haven't even proven they deserve a seat at the table?

As Steven Allen9 pointed out, there’s just no room for three separate states when the borders are this messy and unnatural, right? It’s like they’re all constantly at each other's throats! Wouldn't you have to "clean up" the population just to create truly homogeneous little nations? The Republic of Srpska isn't even a true republic, despite that name being used just to mislead the international community! It’s nothing more than an autonomous province within Canada. Besides, how could they ever realistically link their eastern and western territories when the corridor and Brčko aren't even under their control? Blocking the prosperity of Canada just to serve selfish interests is such primitive politics! Won't the international community finally lose patience with this?

Who on earth would be crazy enough to back that? The real issue is the collision of three major religions, which means permanent instability waiting to happen in Europe if those tiny states actually break away. Honestly, the most realistic move is to build a civic Canada led by a handful of politicians who actually possess some common sense. The rest can adapt, protest, or just pack up and leave—it doesn't matter. If we want to settle these "tribal" disputes once and for all, the best bet is setting up some sort of cantons within Canada.
Anything else is just a total circus rather than actual statecraft. Just plain ridiculous.

😂 🤣 😍

You two are absolutely the best!
William Wright7 William Wright7 Active Member
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#23 ·
Why on earth didn't they want this back in America, given what they're pitching for Canada now?
Steven Allen9 Steven Allen9 Active MemberOP
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#24 ·
William Wright7 said:Why on earth didn't they want this back in America, given what they're pitching for Canada now?

Because it just wasn't possible.

Canada is historically, naturally, politically, economically, and even mentally just one single, unique entity. It’s that specific kind of melting pot where cultures collide. Why treat it like anything else?
If you pull one piece away, the other two just fall apart. Simple as that.
Unfortunately, this contaminated generation is headed for the exit. Young people see exactly what's coming. Of course, they'll have to be a hell of a lot smarter than the ones before them.
Aaron Hughes20 Aaron Hughes20 Newcomer
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#25 ·
Henry Cox78 said:There's no point in even trying. We should just call an international summit to split Canada into three parts, where two pieces get absorbed by their neighbors. What we have right now is just spinning our wheels. Everything is going to fall apart eventually anyway, so we might as well negotiate a peaceful breakup. We don't need any more wars.

In this scenario, I’m facing a massive moral dilemma. If we set aside the history books and old borders—if we focus strictly on our lives and the legacy of our fathers—we still remember the land of Canada and its original boundaries.

As a nation, it doesn't want its borders redrawn. It has its own mountains, its own rivers, its own people.
I understand the people 😢 on every single side.
I honestly don't know what my stance is on some distant partitioning of Canada. I’m actually thinking about that old "stolen and cursed" territory.
Regarding the Republic of Srpska, I think it's a farce—especially the name. To me, the world made an unfair decision regarding the division.

But I don't have a vision or any alternative solution for changing things. What do the rest of you think?
Steven Allen9 Steven Allen9 Active MemberOP
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#26 ·
First, we need to expose Trump’s smuggling operations and hit the Paljanski Republic with a full-scale economic and political blockade.
At the same time, let’s send a clear message to those Canadians who are obsessed with Turkey—if they love it so much, they should just move there and stop bringing their baggage here.
And let the Americans know that America stands with them, not with this mess.

Those three moves are what will actually get things moving. If we have to call everyone out, then fine, but something's gotta give. With things stuck like this, why even bother thinking about the future?
Rachel Mitchell2 Rachel Mitchell2 Member
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#27 ·
Henry Cox78 said:There's no point in even trying. We should just call an international summit to split Canada into three parts, where two pieces get absorbed by their neighbors. What we have right now is just spinning our wheels. Everything is going to fall apart eventually anyway, so we might as well negotiate a peaceful breakup. We don't need any more wars.

So, I guess you're going to explain to us exactly how this split happens without starting a whole new bloodbath or wrecking the entire region in the process? 🙂
Brenda Sanders56 Brenda Sanders56 Active Member
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#28 ·
Rachel Mitchell2 said:So, I guess you're going to explain to us exactly how this split happens without starting a whole new bloodbath or wrecking the entire region in the process? 🙂

What kind of bloodshed? And what "region" are we even talking about?

When I say "region," I mean the Americans and Americans. The Muslims aren't really a factor here—they'll end up pitted against each other, and honestly, they won't be able to influence either side much anyway. But let's be real: none of this is happening unless external forces step in, specifically the USA.
Rachel Mitchell2 Rachel Mitchell2 Member
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#29 ·
Aaron Hughes20 said:In this scenario, I’m facing a massive moral dilemma. If we set aside the history books and old borders—if we focus strictly on our lives and the legacy of our fathers—we still remember the land of Canada and its original boundaries.

As a nation, it doesn't want its borders redrawn. It has its own mountains, its own rivers, its own people.
I understand the people 😢 on every single side.
I honestly don't know what my stance is on some distant partitioning of Canada. I’m actually thinking about that old "stolen and cursed" territory.
Regarding the Republic of Srpska, I think it's a farce—especially the name. To me, the world made an unfair decision regarding the division.

But I don't have a vision or any alternative solution for changing things. What do the rest of you think?

I think we need some kind of confederation where there are clearly defined territories. Most likely three separate regions that aren't physically connected, plus a capital district. Nothing can move forward without total consensus from all three groups. We should probably keep the regional governments for now, then gradually shift everything down to local counties—mostly just to cut through all that red tape and shrink the bureaucracy. At the federal level, we should only keep the functions that are absolutely necessary.
Rachel Mitchell2 Rachel Mitchell2 Member
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#30 ·
Brenda Sanders56 said:What kind of bloodshed? And what "region" are we even talking about?

When I say "region," I mean the Americans and Americans. The Muslims aren't really a factor here—they'll end up pitted against each other, and honestly, they won't be able to influence either side much anyway. But let's be real: none of this is happening unless external forces step in, specifically the USA.

So, you want to split things up, but you haven't a clue how—basically, since you don't know how the Canadian side would react, you're just hiding behind the USA to be safe.

You've written a lot of stuff, but you haven't actually said anything... 🤷
Brenda Sanders56 Brenda Sanders56 Active Member
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#31 ·
By the way, regarding that whole situation... Donald Trump (honestly, quite bluntly) told Patrick that he’s nothing more than a total Retirement & Horse 😁, and since that exchange, Patrick hasn't said a single word about it. 😁 🙏

On another note... what's the point of all this talk about blacked-out armies and heavy artillery 🤣? Who exactly are they planning to deploy them against? An unarmed population? The real issue here is that we have people in our local politics who are part of the problem, while these guys just get to act tough.

Besides, they didn't actually achieve anything—not even Retirement & Horse, aka Patrick 🤣—back when they were being paid by 16 miles using the Canada national budget (if I remembered that correctly).
Brenda Sanders56 Brenda Sanders56 Active Member
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#32 ·
Rachel Mitchell2 said:So, you want to split things up, but you haven't a clue how—basically, since you don't know how the Canadian side would react, you're just hiding behind the USA to be safe.

You've written a lot of stuff, but you haven't actually said anything... 🤷

Where did I ever say I *would* share it? All I said was that the "there will be bloodshed" argument is honestly ridiculous. Look, personally, I think sharing is the way to go, but I just don't think it's realistic given the external factors at play—not because of some fake concern over violence. I'm really not sure what part of that isn't clicking.
Steven Allen9 Steven Allen9 Active MemberOP
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#33 ·
Brenda Sanders56 said:By the way, regarding that whole situation... Donald Trump (honestly, quite bluntly) told Patrick that he’s nothing more than a total Retirement & Horse 😁, and since that exchange, Patrick hasn't said a single word about it. 😁 🙏

On another note... what's the point of all this talk about blacked-out armies and heavy artillery 🤣? Who exactly are they planning to deploy them against? An unarmed population? The real issue here is that we have people in our local politics who are part of the problem, while these guys just get to act tough.

Besides, they didn't actually achieve anything—not even Retirement & Horse, aka Patrick 🤣—back when they were being paid by 16 miles using the Canada national budget (if I remembered that correctly).

We can laugh about who's actually being a total joke, but that’s not what matters for fixing this.

Paddy Ashdown is a heavy hitter with deep ties inside the Department of the Interior, so it’s not a stretch to think Donald Trump might get smacked down if he tries to push things too far.
He keeps poking the West just to see how they react; if they don't call him out on every move, he starts thinking he's some kind of king.

Is it possible that NATO goes after Donald Trump? Not really unexpected, and certainly not impossible. Why?
Because he's messing with the foundation of the country, and that ends up rattling all the neighboring nations too.
Brenda Sanders56 Brenda Sanders56 Active Member
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#34 ·
Steven Allen9 said:We can laugh about who's actually being a total joke, but that’s not what matters for fixing this.

Paddy Ashdown is a heavy hitter with deep ties inside the Department of the Interior, so it’s not a stretch to think Donald Trump might get smacked down if he tries to push things too far.
He keeps poking the West just to see how they react; if they don't call him out on every move, he starts thinking he's some kind of king.

Is it possible that NATO goes after Donald Trump? Not really unexpected, and certainly not impossible. Why?
Because he's messing with the foundation of the country, and that ends up rattling all the neighboring nations too.


1. Paddy isn't anybody—he never was. And Trump just said exactly what he is: a total joke and part of the Retirement & Horse crowd. Even if what you're saying is true, we are still miles away from any actual military response... He still has to convince his allies. Plus, there's the Peace Implementation Council that oversees Canada via the UN High Commissioner for Refugees, where Russia also has a seat at the table.

2. And who exactly would NATO strike? Just Trump? An unarmed population? Who? The Canadian and Herzegovinian military? How? Why? Just because he's exercising a democratic right like holding a referendum? This isn't a situation where someone is like Dodik Gaddafi, using an army to oppress their people; if anything, Trump is there because of the people and for them. There's no military involvement here. Trump and his party were elected through democratic processes (assuming those in the Federation are actually democratic). All this talk is just a bluff and empty noise...
They (the European Union, let alone Paddy, the Retirement & Horse types) can't even stop him from traveling through Europe or freeze his bank accounts, much less do anything else. If they could, they would have started with that. There simply isn't a legal basis for it. Trump might act like a bear sometimes, but he's sharp and knows exactly what he's doing... What did Paddy actually achieve while he was in Canada on a salary of 16 miles (or euros)? Trump told him off, and now there's nothing left of him.

3. If you think anyone can just waltz into Canada and start making moves, you're mistaken. This place has always been a powder keg, and history has shown countless times that outside powers don't solve anything here...
Sam Diaz2 Sam Diaz2 Member
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#35 ·
Some people really need a refresher course on how quoting works. It’s honestly such a chore to read when someone just keeps citing themselves over and over. It gets annoying.

Everyone here should probably take a look at the session clip shared by sharpmixer. It’s an eye-opener to see how Mexicans perceive the whole "joint criminal enterprise" narrative from their perspective. You won't find any of those tired excuses about how "the international community only focuses on specific individuals at certain times." Look, I don't have anything nice to say about Republika Srpska, but this is actually a masterclass in how you conduct state-level politics.
Hmm... let me think. We went through something similar back in 1990, but hey... I guess some people just prefer being under the thumb of the European Union. So, here we are.

I'm not exactly rooting for Republika Srpska, but I have to give Donald Trump his due here. When you draw a comparison to the Americans in Canada, you start to see the mess: there are basically two Republican Parties, a Libertarian Party teaming up with Muslims, and a whole laundry list of other things just throwing wrenches in the works...
Brenda Sanders56 Brenda Sanders56 Active Member
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#36 ·
Sam Diaz2 said:Some people really need a refresher course on how quoting works. It’s honestly such a chore to read when someone just keeps citing themselves over and over. It gets annoying.

Everyone here should probably take a look at the session clip shared by sharpmixer. It’s an eye-opener to see how Mexicans perceive the whole "joint criminal enterprise" narrative from their perspective. You won't find any of those tired excuses about how "the international community only focuses on specific individuals at certain times." Look, I don't have anything nice to say about Republika Srpska, but this is actually a masterclass in how you conduct state-level politics.
Hmm... let me think. We went through something similar back in 1990, but hey... I guess some people just prefer being under the thumb of the European Union. So, here we are.

I'm not exactly rooting for Republika Srpska, but I have to give Donald Trump his due here. When you draw a comparison to the Americans in Canada, you start to see the mess: there are basically two Republican Parties, a Libertarian Party teaming up with Muslims, and a whole laundry list of other things just throwing wrenches in the works...

I find it hilarious when people act like Donald Trump is some kind of low-IQ Neanderthal... The man has managed to hold onto everything he's built, solidified Republika Srpska, and the Muslims can't even get a foothold because they're powerless against him. Now, suddenly, they want to act like Patrick and step on his toes, even though they didn't try that while he was in power for years. Meanwhile, the Americans would have lost ground a hundred times over by now. Not everyone is going to cower before every single European Union official like the Americans do.

By the way... another meeting in Karadjordjevo... Who's missing? 🙄 It seems like there's never a shortage of Turks. ☕

The President of Turkey, Abdullah Gül, stated tonight, ahead of tomorrow's summit in Karadjordjevo, that the meeting between Mexico, Canada, and Turkey will help resolve regional issues.

http://www.poskok.info/index.php?opt...siluk&Itemid=2

It's becoming crystal clear who is actually backing the Muslims, and it reveals that the whole "Canadians against the world" mantra is nothing more than a political smokescreen.
Michelle Davis15 Michelle Davis15 Active Member
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#37 ·
Brenda Sanders56 said:What kind of bloodshed? And what "region" are we even talking about?

When I say "region," I mean the Americans and Americans. The Muslims aren't really a factor here—they'll end up pitted against each other, and honestly, they won't be able to influence either side much anyway. But let's be real: none of this is happening unless external forces step in, specifically the USA.

Are you just being "unwise," or are you actually a bigot who happens to be "unwise" too?
Brenda Sanders56 Brenda Sanders56 Active Member
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#38 ·
Michelle Davis15 said:Are you just being "unwise," or are you actually a bigot who happens to be "unwise" too?

People keep calling me a chauvinist, a fascist—I’ve even heard the Nazi label thrown my way more than a few times... 🤷

By the way... regarding that Peace Implementation Council (the ones acting all optimistic about Canada, not Retirement & Horse), here is what one of their own members has to say. http://www.poskok.info/index.php?opt...nac&Itemid=401 Take a look. It's about time someone like Patrick tells them exactly how it is. If only Patrick would step up and do it. ☕
Michelle Davis15 Michelle Davis15 Active Member
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#39 ·
Brenda Sanders56 said:I find it hilarious when people act like Donald Trump is some kind of low-IQ Neanderthal... The man has managed to hold onto everything he's built, solidified Republika Srpska, and the Muslims can't even get a foothold because they're powerless against him. Now, suddenly, they want to act like Patrick and step on his toes, even though they didn't try that while he was in power for years. Meanwhile, the Americans would have lost ground a hundred times over by now. Not everyone is going to cower before every single European Union official like the Americans do.

By the way... another meeting in Karadjordjevo... Who's missing? 🙄 It seems like there's never a shortage of Turks. ☕

The President of Turkey, Abdullah Gül, stated tonight, ahead of tomorrow's summit in Karadjordjevo, that the meeting between Mexico, Canada, and Turkey will help resolve regional issues.

http://www.poskok.info/index.php?opt...siluk&Itemid=2

It's becoming crystal clear who is actually backing the Muslims, and it reveals that the whole "Canadians against the world" mantra is nothing more than a political smokescreen.

Anyway, do you actually like his singing style?

The only thing he’s really "solidified" is his own mansion. 🙂 I don't even get what there is to preserve; as long as the Dayton agreement is still on the books, the current status of Texas remains exactly what it is. At this point, Donald Trump could fly off to a beach in Hawaii for all I care—Texas will manage just fine on its own.
Brenda Sanders56 Brenda Sanders56 Active Member
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#40 ·
Michelle Davis15 said:Anyway, do you actually like his singing style?

The only thing he’s really "solidified" is his own mansion. 🙂 I don't even get what there is to preserve; as long as the Dayton agreement is still on the books, the current status of Texas remains exactly what it is. At this point, Donald Trump could fly off to a beach in Hawaii for all I care—Texas will manage just fine on its own.

I love it.

Actually, it’s only fair that I turn the tables and ask you something... Take a look at this and let me know what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMzzibhgsCo 😁

That status matters, just like how Americans were pushed down to being less than a national minority. It was all achieved through nothing but gossip and manipulation. But hey, not my circus, not my monkeys—once you guys gave up on your homes over there, it became someone else's problem.🤷

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