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Are the first three years of life really the most important?

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jadetinker85 jadetinker85 RegularOP
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#1 ·
Does anyone have more insight into why psychologists insist those first three years are the make-or-break period? What’s the actual advice for parents? I'm curious about the specific studies out there and what they actually found. If you've got some info, lay it on us. 🙂
silentdriver69 silentdriver69 Newcomer
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#2 ·
jadetinker85 said:Does anyone have more insight into why psychologists insist those first three years are the make-or-break period? What’s the actual advice for parents? I'm curious about the specific studies out there and what they actually found. If you've got some info, lay it on us. 🙂


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"Those early years basically set the stage for how successful a kid will be later on—everything from their physical health and school performance to their self-esteem and social skills. A baby's brain develops at an insane speed, and the neural connections sparked by interacting with caregivers during this window stick for life. It's during these first few years that emotional stability and basic trust in others are built, forming the foundation for all future relationships with peers, adults, partners, and even their own kids down the road. It's a massive period of growth and opportunity, but also a time where things can easily go sideways. A rough start often shows up later in life through general dissatisfaction, relationship struggles, learning difficulties, eating disorders, or even higher rates of crime, violence, addiction, and other personal or societal issues..."
placidwolf27 placidwolf27 Active Member
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#3 ·
It’s truly something... you can be completely blindsided by life—thrown under the bus before you've even had a chance to find your footing in those first few years—without having done a single thing to deserve it. And let's be honest, most parents are essentially flying blind anyway; ninety percent of them haven't the slightest clue what they're actually doing, so you can't exactly pin the blame on them either...
Eric Gray2 Eric Gray2 Regular
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#4 ·
Look, nobody is out here trying to screw anyone over. First off, saying "the first three years are the most important" is just a marketing slogan—you have to take it as such. It’s true that growth and development move at lightning speed during that window, and you're building that foundational attachment that serves as the bedrock for all future relationships, but it would be pretty reckless to claim those first three years are the absolute most vital period of a person's life. If we actually believed that, we’d essentially be suggesting that three-year-olds who didn't get proper care, nutrition, or healthy social interaction could just be tossed aside without a second thought or any ethical crisis—as if they're just permanently screwed.

jadetinker85, there is a massive mountain of research out there regarding child development and its various facets. If you can, let me know specifically what you're looking into.
jadetinker85 jadetinker85 RegularOP
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#5 ·
I'm looking for some insight into infant development during those first three years. To be honest, I’ve been scrolling through the Parenting subforum, and some of the takes there are wild. Some parents seem perfectly fine with letting an eight-month-old just cry themselves to sleep. To me, that feels like a disaster waiting to happen—like you're setting them up for long-term issues. But then again, maybe I'm the one with the skewed perspective. 🤷
Eric Gray2 Eric Gray2 Regular
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#6 ·
It would be so much easier if we actually had clear-cut answers to questions like this—but unfortunately, we just don't. I mean, what kind of ethics board in the US would ever greenlight an experiment where you have one group of infants being rocked and soothed by their mothers, while the other group is just left there crying all alone?
Not to mention the fact that the human psyche and our overall development are so incredibly complex—it honestly feels like we’ll never truly pinpoint which specific factor out of the millions is driving a particular aspect of how someone experiences life or behaves.
To be honest, the parenting method mentioned in the post doesn't sound particularly great either, but there is a very real chance that the child won't end up growing into some kind of emotional wreck.
Harold Harris19 Harold Harris19 Newcomer
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#7 ·
Eric Gray2 said:It would be so much easier if we actually had clear-cut answers to questions like this—but unfortunately, we just don't. I mean, what kind of ethics board in the US would ever greenlight an experiment where you have one group of infants being rocked and soothed by their mothers, while the other group is just left there crying all alone?
Not to mention the fact that the human psyche and our overall development are so incredibly complex—it honestly feels like we’ll never truly pinpoint which specific factor out of the millions is driving a particular aspect of how someone experiences life or behaves.
To be honest, the parenting method mentioned in the post doesn't sound particularly great either, but there is a very real chance that the child won't end up growing into some kind of emotional wreck.

I bet any mom using this approach would be pretty stoked to hear that. 😁
frozenbison3 frozenbison3 Member
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#8 ·
You can also end up with a potential emotional wreck—just in a different way—from parents who swing too far the other direction and jump at every single whim of their kid. You have to find that middle ground, but honestly? Nobody knows where that line is, or if they do, the general public certainly hasn't figured it out yet.
jadetinker85 jadetinker85 RegularOP
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#9 ·
frozenbison3 said:You can also end up with a potential emotional wreck—just in a different way—from parents who swing too far the other direction and jump at every single whim of their kid. You have to find that middle ground, but honestly? Nobody knows where that line is, or if they do, the general public certainly hasn't figured it out yet.

There's plenty to unpack here. I actually know a few people whose mothers hovered over them constantly—they were pretty sickly kids, one was a preemie and another dealt with asthma. Interestingly enough, those same people turned out to be incredibly successful adults.
frozenbison3 frozenbison3 Member
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#10 ·
jadetinker85 said:There's plenty to unpack here. I actually know a few people whose mothers hovered over them constantly—they were pretty sickly kids, one was a preemie and another dealt with asthma. Interestingly enough, those same people turned out to be incredibly successful adults.

Sure, you could debate just about anything involving the social sciences, which is why I labeled this as "potential" discussion. So, no, they don't have to. It's not like people have cameras installed in their living rooms to track every single reaction so we can analyze a mother's every move to decide if she gave too much—or too little—attention. Even if there were some perfect record of maternal behavior, you'd still be stuck with flimsy theories trying to predict adult behavior; one observer would see an overkill of care, while another would see a deficit.

And "highly successful" is a pretty relative term to me. In what sense? Personally, if you manage to survive in America today, you're doing alright.
Keith Wilson Keith Wilson Member
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#11 ·
Try picking up two books on the same topic, even if they take different angles...

Zaj...'s guide on surviving family life—Oliver James
EPIDEMIJA POPUSTLJIVOG ODGOJA by Robert Shaw

You might find some answers, or you might just end up more confused ;-)
jadetinker85 jadetinker85 RegularOP
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#12 ·
I’ve got Oliver James on my nightstand, though I haven't finished it yet... but he seems to trace the roots of everything back to those first few years of life, even for heavy stuff like schizophrenia... feels a bit like an overreach to me.
Linda Price5 Linda Price5 Active Member
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#13 ·
Eric Gray2 said:It would be so much easier if we actually had clear-cut answers to questions like this—but unfortunately, we just don't. I mean, what kind of ethics board in the US would ever greenlight an experiment where you have one group of infants being rocked and soothed by their mothers, while the other group is just left there crying all alone?
Not to mention the fact that the human psyche and our overall development are so incredibly complex—it honestly feels like we’ll never truly pinpoint which specific factor out of the millions is driving a particular aspect of how someone experiences life or behaves.
To be honest, the parenting method mentioned in the post doesn't sound particularly great either, but there is a very real chance that the child won't end up growing into some kind of emotional wreck.

No ethics board in the country would permit total social isolation of children just to study language acquisition, yet history shows us such cases have happened. Let’s be realistic: people rarely seek permission from an oversight committee before engaging in abuse or neglect. Documented instances of early childhood emotional deprivation are part of the record.
Eric Gray2 Eric Gray2 Regular
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#14 ·
Linda Price5 said:No ethics board in the country would permit total social isolation of children just to study language acquisition, yet history shows us such cases have happened. Let’s be realistic: people rarely seek permission from an oversight committee before engaging in abuse or neglect. Documented instances of early childhood emotional deprivation are part of the record.

That’s a fair point, but if we’re looking at this through a methodological lens, we’re dealing with ex post facto designs here. In these scenarios, you can't be one hundred percent certain that the experimental group and the control group differ solely because of that one independent variable. Because of that uncertainty, it’s a bit of a stretch to draw definitive conclusions about actual cause-and-effect relationships.
Linda Price5 Linda Price5 Active Member
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#15 ·
Eric Gray2 said:That’s a fair point, but if we’re looking at this through a methodological lens, we’re dealing with ex post facto designs here. In these scenarios, you can't be one hundred percent certain that the experimental group and the control group differ solely because of that one independent variable. Because of that uncertainty, it’s a bit of a stretch to draw definitive conclusions about actual cause-and-effect relationships.

We are talking about human beings here. Infants. The idea that you can isolate an experimental group from a control group so perfectly that they differ by nothing but one single variable is... well, it's a biological impossibility.
Eric Gray2 Eric Gray2 Regular
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#16 ·
Linda Price5 said:We are talking about human beings here. Infants. The idea that you can isolate an experimental group from a control group so perfectly that they differ by nothing but one single variable is... well, it's a biological impossibility.

That is my point exactly.
electriccyclist95 electriccyclist95 Newcomer
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placidwolf27 said:It’s truly something... you can be completely blindsided by life—thrown under the bus before you've even had a chance to find your footing in those first few years—without having done a single thing to deserve it. And let's be honest, most parents are essentially flying blind anyway; ninety percent of them haven't the slightest clue what they're actually doing, so you can't exactly pin the blame on them either...

Eric Gray2 said:Look, nobody is out here trying to screw anyone over. First off, saying "the first three years are the most important" is just a marketing slogan—you have to take it as such. It’s true that growth and development move at lightning speed during that window, and you're building that foundational attachment that serves as the bedrock for all future relationships, but it would be pretty reckless to claim those first three years are the absolute most vital period of a person's life. If we actually believed that, we’d essentially be suggesting that three-year-olds who didn't get proper care, nutrition, or healthy social interaction could just be tossed aside without a second thought or any ethical crisis—as if they're just permanently screwed.

jadetinker85, there is a massive mountain of research out there regarding child development and its various facets. If you can, let me know specifically what you're looking into.

I suspect there might be some sort of age threshold somewhere, because I can certainly see, looking at my own experience, that a person's character and habits become increasingly difficult to reshape over time. At most, we can talk about the formation of attitudes, which might eventually shift as one gains more life experience. That’s just my layman's take on the matter.
jadetinker85 jadetinker85 RegularOP
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#18 ·
Honestly, I’m at a loss for words. It wasn't until I started scrolling through the Parenting threads that I realized how much people are experimenting on their infants—trying all sorts of "methods" that just don't make sense. They decide to cut out nighttime feedings when the baby is only a few months old, and then they act shocked when the kid is up every twenty minutes all night long. Nature designed infant feeding for a reason, and who knows what kind of mess parents end up making for themselves with these little experiments.
Nicholas Moore2 Nicholas Moore2 Member
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#19 ·
Keith Wilson said:Try picking up two books on the same topic, even if they take different angles...

Zaj...'s guide on surviving family life—Oliver James
EPIDEMIJA POPUSTLJIVOG ODGOJA by Robert Shaw

You might find some answers, or you might just end up more confused ;-)

Anyone happen to have these in PDF?
jadetinker85 jadetinker85 RegularOP
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#20 ·
I’d figure you could track it down in a library; I managed to snag a photocopy from my local high school library.

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