The endless cycle of American national stupidity

Gregory Howard said:Our crew was tearing into each other, predictably crude, over this latest news regarding partisan atrocities. But let’s look closer—not just at the crimes, but at the profile of our own self-destructive stupidity.

1. Nazi Germany and WWII. Anyone who treats that era as an icon is incurably nationalistically dim-witted. Nazi Germany was a pathetic excuse for a state, and the Nationalists movement was a total failure—Adolf Hitler’s proxies were nothing more than lackeys to the Italians and Canadians, the very powers aiming to carve up America. Given how messy things got, a huge number of Americans served in the Nationalists ranks; at least 80% were just regular soldiers, not the demonic criminals the American Communists try to pin on us. Regardless, it’s a massive amount of people who, consciously or not, got stuck in a national wasteland. Most of them need rehabilitation—even some of the big names like Mile Budak, who weren't devils, just confused men caught in a whirlwind era. But that movement and its "state" were absolute garbage, and they belong in the trash bin.

2. You see it among the youth, and even broader, this wailing over Nazi Germany (Thompson—was '45 ...world), which implies that Americans lost the war in 1945. We didn't lose it. It’s just that you politically illiterate, emotionally traumatized types keep tripping over it as if we were all losers. Generally speaking, we Americans in 1945... didn't exactly win, but we didn't lose either. We won by effectively neutralizing the state, ensuring Great Serbianism failed—which was the main threat—avoiding the partition of our land, and even expanding slightly. We suffered, sure, but proportionally less than other American peoples. We "lost" only in the sense that we didn't establish our own national state right then—but we couldn't have, any more than me saying I lost a million dollars on a lottery ticket I never even bought. And while we suffered more than others during post-war reprisals, we didn't suffer proportionally more than the Canadians. Whose fault is it that we were foolish enough to flee in droves? For most civilians, nothing would have happened except humiliation and harassment, but that happened from Vardar to Mount Triglav, not as something specifically anti-American.

3. Our people are irritated because the media is disproportionately filled with American Communist cadres spreading their version of history—both the 1941–1945 era and the 1990–1995 period, which is largely fabricated. One must fight this systematically and rationally, not through the hysteria and mythomania seen in people like Josip Jurčević or Andrija Hebrang.

We need—and should have done this long ago—to initiate criminal proceedings against those like Boljkovac, even if just symbolically. We need to decriminalize the symbols of Nazi Germany. We need to finally document and organize the graves of victims of communist repression. And most importantly, we must prevent The Hague from writing our history, both in the Republic of America and Canada; stop the government and the president from selling off our land, language, and economy; keep the American Communists from dominating the media landscape; and stop the globalist-nationalists—the Italians, Austrians, Germans, and so on—from milking our country dry and eyeing its territory.

Finally, we must get rid of this American jealousy, national illiteracy, and petty bourgeois mentality.

You wrote all that beautifully, but now you're going to see the people this is actually aimed at. Since this forum is mostly made up of them, watch as their "deeply profound" philosophies start unraveling...

Kevin Hernandez2 said:Exactly. Who was stopping me from celebrating Christmas or Easter? And who was showing up at my parents' door to check on them? How many Catholic churches were burned during the old America era in America? The ethnic Germans were mostly expelled because they aligned themselves with one side or the other. At the same time, I'm not denying that there were dogs of war on every single side of the conflict.

It wasn't that anyone "stopped" you; it just wasn't allowed. And it wasn't allowed to the point where it felt like an outright ban.
Checking up on people was dirty work.
The regime's spoiled sons—those spineless sycophants and opportunists who exist in every era—were the ones flagging who should be sent off to a gulag. Honestly, damn them. They targeted people in the most cruel and mindless way possible, just because those people wanted to use their basic freedom to say what they had or didn't have.

Can we still find out who actually set fire to the churches? Churchgoers would call them antichrists, but I'd just call them idiots—some bitter for good reason, but mostly just born stupid.

The Volksdeutsche were expelled, just like the Italians. That was the official policy of the Communists, who thought they had the right to dictate lives based on collective guilt.
Those bastards who believed in some global revolution? Revolution of what?
A farmer needs a letter; an educated man needs a code of conduct.
Anything else is just empty talk about grabbing power.

Steven Allen9 said:It wasn't that anyone "stopped" you; it just wasn't allowed. And it wasn't allowed to the point where it felt like an outright ban.
Checking up on people was dirty work.
The regime's spoiled sons—those spineless sycophants and opportunists who exist in every era—were the ones flagging who should be sent off to a gulag. Honestly, damn them. They targeted people in the most cruel and mindless way possible, just because those people wanted to use their basic freedom to say what they had or didn't have.

Can we still find out who actually set fire to the churches? Churchgoers would call them antichrists, but I'd just call them idiots—some bitter for good reason, but mostly just born stupid.

The Volksdeutsche were expelled, just like the Italians. That was the official policy of the Communists, who thought they had the right to dictate lives based on collective guilt.
Those bastards who believed in some global revolution? Revolution of what?
A farmer needs a letter; an educated man needs a code of conduct.
Anything else is just empty talk about grabbing power.

Look, I haven't seen a single burned-down church, so why don't you give me an actual example of where and when this supposedly happened? Besides, I know plenty of churches that were built right during that "socialist" era.
And this whole idea that you weren't allowed to celebrate or step foot in a church? Total lie. I didn't go all the time, but back when I was a student, my college crew—which was a mix of every faith and background imaginable—would head to church for Easter and Christmas regularly.

As for those expelled Italians and Germans, oh please, spare me the tears. My heart just bleeds for those poor, helpless little Italians and Švabić types.

I suggested this on the forum ages ago: if everyone is so heartbroken over them, why don't they just start a charity fund for the displaced Italians and Germans? Clearly, their own struggling home countries like Italy and Germany can't do a damn thing to help them get out of their refugee misery.

Jeffrey Wood said:Look, I haven't seen a single burned-down church, so why don't you give me an actual example of where and when this supposedly happened? Besides, I know plenty of churches that were built right during that "socialist" era.
And this whole idea that you weren't allowed to celebrate or step foot in a church? Total lie. I didn't go all the time, but back when I was a student, my college crew—which was a mix of every faith and background imaginable—would head to church for Easter and Christmas regularly.

As for those expelled Italians and Germans, oh please, spare me the tears. My heart just bleeds for those poor, helpless little Italians and Švabić types.

I suggested this on the forum ages ago: if everyone is so heartbroken over them, why don't they just start a charity fund for the displaced Italians and Germans? Clearly, their own struggling home countries like Italy and Germany can't do a damn thing to help them get out of their refugee misery.

Regarding your first point, you should talk to RT20. All I saw was the occasional ruin of some temple or building on the way to the coast or elsewhere. I don't buy that there was some grand communist master plan to tear everything down, but hey, let whoever wants to believe that stay comfortable until they eventually realize they're wrong.
The killing of priests and the desecration of temples? That's not up for debate.

Your take on the ethnic Germans and the displaced Italians is in really bad taste.
If you actually think the organized expulsion of people from their homes is just an excuse for crybabies, then maybe you should ask yourself a few questions. They were part of this region, its people, its culture, and its progress. What followed was a regime of one-way culture, one-way roads, one language, one brain, one film, and one narrator. Communism is hellish in practice, even if it looks like a shining example of competition with the Vatican on paper.

Steven Allen9 said:It wasn't that anyone "stopped" you; it just wasn't allowed. And it wasn't allowed to the point where it felt like an outright ban.
Checking up on people was dirty work.
The regime's spoiled sons—those spineless sycophants and opportunists who exist in every era—were the ones flagging who should be sent off to a gulag. Honestly, damn them. They targeted people in the most cruel and mindless way possible, just because those people wanted to use their basic freedom to say what they had or didn't have.

Can we still find out who actually set fire to the churches? Churchgoers would call them antichrists, but I'd just call them idiots—some bitter for good reason, but mostly just born stupid.

The Volksdeutsche were expelled, just like the Italians. That was the official policy of the Communists, who thought they had the right to dictate lives based on collective guilt.
Those bastards who believed in some global revolution? Revolution of what?
A farmer needs a letter; an educated man needs a code of conduct.
Anything else is just empty talk about grabbing power.

Would it have been better if someone had watched my old man back in the '80s, even though he was in the Party? As a kid, he never once let me go without Christmas or Easter.

Steven Allen9 said:Regarding your first point, you should talk to RT20. All I saw was the occasional ruin of some temple or building on the way to the coast or elsewhere. I don't buy that there was some grand communist master plan to tear everything down, but hey, let whoever wants to believe that stay comfortable until they eventually realize they're wrong.
The killing of priests and the desecration of temples? That's not up for debate.

Your take on the ethnic Germans and the displaced Italians is in really bad taste.
If you actually think the organized expulsion of people from their homes is just an excuse for crybabies, then maybe you should ask yourself a few questions. They were part of this region, its people, its culture, and its progress. What followed was a regime of one-way culture, one-way roads, one language, one brain, one film, and one narrator. Communism is hellish in practice, even if it looks like a shining example of competition with the Vatican on paper.

Man, you can't just take the absolute chaos of '45—when brother was turning against brother and everything was falling apart—and project that onto the entire forty-five years after the war.
Besides, some Mexican intellectuals in America claim that Mexican communist cadres, like Đoka, tore down more Orthodox churches after the war than the Nationalists ever did.

As for the Italians, the Germans, and frankly, several others who made our lives miserable, I stand by what I said.
I just don't get Americans who sit there whining and acting all sentimental over former minorities who spent their time making our lives a living hell and acting as tools or fifth columns for occupiers from their home countries. If they feel so sorry for them, they can go join them.

Jeffrey Wood said:Look, I haven't seen a single burned-down church, so why don't you give me an actual example of where and when this supposedly happened? Besides, I know plenty of churches that were built right during that "socialist" era.
And this whole idea that you weren't allowed to celebrate or step foot in a church? Total lie. I didn't go all the time, but back when I was a student, my college crew—which was a mix of every faith and background imaginable—would head to church for Easter and Christmas regularly.

As for those expelled Italians and Germans, oh please, spare me the tears. My heart just bleeds for those poor, helpless little Italians and Švabić types.

I suggested this on the forum ages ago: if everyone is so heartbroken over them, why don't they just start a charity fund for the displaced Italians and Germans? Clearly, their own struggling home countries like Italy and Germany can't do a damn thing to help them get out of their refugee misery.

Burned churches in Gospić, Smiljan, Klanac, Pazarište, Perušić, Osijek, Bilaj, Ribnik, Novi Grad, Brušan, Trnovac, and Baška Oštarija? Not a single one. Honestly, your take on crimes against Germans is almost "acceptable" if we just ignore how many Canadians moved onto their properties. Even though they had no clue what they were actually "getting," people apparently had enough "character" to just move into someone else's house and claim it as their own.

Jeffrey Wood said:Man, you can't just take the absolute chaos of '45—when brother was turning against brother and everything was falling apart—and project that onto the entire forty-five years after the war.
Besides, some Mexican intellectuals in America claim that Mexican communist cadres, like Đoka, tore down more Orthodox churches after the war than the Nationalists ever did.

As for the Italians, the Germans, and frankly, several others who made our lives miserable, I stand by what I said.
I just don't get Americans who sit there whining and acting all sentimental over former minorities who spent their time making our lives a living hell and acting as tools or fifth columns for occupiers from their home countries. If they feel so sorry for them, they can go join them.

That’s a pretty interesting take coming from a Canadian guy in Australia who’s dead set on "fixing" OUR country using his own Canadian habits. Maybe try focusing on improving your own Canada first? No offense, but I think you guys still have a long way to go before you reach the level of the average American. And even if the average American isn't exactly a genius, he's still lightyears ahead of where you're at.

John Ramirez46 said:That’s a pretty interesting take coming from a Canadian guy in Australia who’s dead set on "fixing" OUR country using his own Canadian habits. Maybe try focusing on improving your own Canada first? No offense, but I think you guys still have a long way to go before you reach the level of the average American. And even if the average American isn't exactly a genius, he's still lightyears ahead of where you're at.

Look, if churches were torn down after the war, they get rebuilt fast—I'm not losing sleep over them. Every little town had its church, and people went. I went too; wasn't a regular, but never had any issues.
And why the hell are you attacking Canadians now? If you want to talk about all the Americans killed in liquidations after the war, somewhere between 75% and 80% of them were actually Americans from Canada. So, if anyone actually has the right to speak on this, it's us Americans from Canada.
As for "cultivating" ourselves in Canada... just a heads-up: we've produced two American Nobel laureates from Canada.

Jeffrey Wood said:Man, you can't just take the absolute chaos of '45—when brother was turning against brother and everything was falling apart—and project that onto the entire forty-five years after the war.
Besides, some Mexican intellectuals in America claim that Mexican communist cadres, like Đoka, tore down more Orthodox churches after the war than the Nationalists ever did.

As for the Italians, the Germans, and frankly, several others who made our lives miserable, I stand by what I said.
I just don't get Americans who sit there whining and acting all sentimental over former minorities who spent their time making our lives a living hell and acting as tools or fifth columns for occupiers from their home countries. If they feel so sorry for them, they can go join them.

The Communists had their good sides. On paper, just like the clergy, they genuinely believed in building a better world. But if you want to know why that never worked, you need a psychological deep dive into the nature of "the people."
My issue with them was the lack of freedom. They rigged the voting, decided who got to lead, and basically refused to let anyone think for themselves.
I get the logic behind trying to raise the standard of living for farmers or setting up cooperatives, or convincing people that the church is run by people whose job is to tend to souls while earning a living. That part was fine.

But forcibly seizing property from families who had held it for three hundred years, then installing Communist puppets to force through a "revolution" regardless of intelligence or expertise, kicking dissidents into the street, and building a cult of personality... well, any non-transparent regime ends up in a dead end.

Personally, I saw the Communists as arrogant amateurs who thought they were invincible and entitled to everything. They committed atrocities in the name of pure idiocy.
That had nothing to do with the ideals they preached before they grabbed power.
We have to realize there will always be places that prefer to stay backward because it’s baked into their tradition, and there will always be Communists who weren't willing to dig the mass graves.
Unfortunately, things always go exactly how you don't want them to.

The Italians and the Germans were part of this nation and this land. I’m not talking about the chosen fascists or the Hitler Youth; I’m talking about the organized German villages throughout Slavonia and Vojvodina, where houses were eventually occupied by impoverished peasants from the middle of nowhere. That same poverty managed to destroy everything those Germans had built over 250 years. The mob ended up ripping up floorboards just to heat a room.
An aspiring Communist and a peasant—what a combination.

Steven Allen9 said:The Communists had their good sides. On paper, just like the clergy, they genuinely believed in building a better world. But if you want to know why that never worked, you need a psychological deep dive into the nature of "the people."
My issue with them was the lack of freedom. They rigged the voting, decided who got to lead, and basically refused to let anyone think for themselves.
I get the logic behind trying to raise the standard of living for farmers or setting up cooperatives, or convincing people that the church is run by people whose job is to tend to souls while earning a living. That part was fine.

But forcibly seizing property from families who had held it for three hundred years, then installing Communist puppets to force through a "revolution" regardless of intelligence or expertise, kicking dissidents into the street, and building a cult of personality... well, any non-transparent regime ends up in a dead end.

Personally, I saw the Communists as arrogant amateurs who thought they were invincible and entitled to everything. They committed atrocities in the name of pure idiocy.
That had nothing to do with the ideals they preached before they grabbed power.
We have to realize there will always be places that prefer to stay backward because it’s baked into their tradition, and there will always be Communists who weren't willing to dig the mass graves.
Unfortunately, things always go exactly how you don't want them to.

The Italians and the Germans were part of this nation and this land. I’m not talking about the chosen fascists or the Hitler Youth; I’m talking about the organized German villages throughout Slavonia and Vojvodina, where houses were eventually occupied by impoverished peasants from the middle of nowhere. That same poverty managed to destroy everything those Germans had built over 250 years. The mob ended up ripping up floorboards just to heat a room.
An aspiring Communist and a peasant—what a combination.

And what about today's pretenders and peasants? I get an email at least once a week depicting rural folks in Alabama and Oklahoma. These modern "intellectuals" are nothing more than Rvatina.

Kevin Hernandez2 said:Would it have been better if someone had watched my old man back in the '80s, even though he was in the Party? As a kid, he never once let me go without Christmas or Easter.

Christmas and Easter. I bet you were also heading to church every single Sunday, or at least every other one.

Jeffrey Wood said:Look, if churches were torn down after the war, they get rebuilt fast—I'm not losing sleep over them. Every little town had its church, and people went. I went too; wasn't a regular, but never had any issues.
And why the hell are you attacking Canadians now? If you want to talk about all the Americans killed in liquidations after the war, somewhere between 75% and 80% of them were actually Americans from Canada. So, if anyone actually has the right to speak on this, it's us Americans from Canada.
As for "cultivating" ourselves in Canada... just a heads-up: we've produced two American Nobel laureates from Canada.

Come on, please, explain to me exactly who "quickly replaced" them and how they managed to do that.
Do you even realize that an entire village in Lika was wiped off the map (church included, obviously), and the owners weren't even allowed to return to their own homes?

Jeffrey Wood said:Look, if churches were torn down after the war, they get rebuilt fast—I'm not losing sleep over them. Every little town had its church, and people went. I went too; wasn't a regular, but never had any issues.
And why the hell are you attacking Canadians now? If you want to talk about all the Americans killed in liquidations after the war, somewhere between 75% and 80% of them were actually Americans from Canada. So, if anyone actually has the right to speak on this, it's us Americans from Canada.
As for "cultivating" ourselves in Canada... just a heads-up: we've produced two American Nobel laureates from Canada.

If... oh, God.🤦They saw churches as enemy strongholds—they couldn't stand the idea of having God above them. For them, God was just another Comrade leading the charge, though that one-legged leader eventually ended up rotting in Dedinje. Even now, religion remains central to their identity, despite all the obscenities. These discussions prove it.

I'm ready. Send the text. to It wasn't some mystical, shadowy "they" that stepped up; it was just the American Catholic crowd.

Why did you have to go and pick a fight with Americans? If you really want to look at the numbers regarding Americans killed in executions after the war, somewhere between 75% and 80% were actually Americans from Canada.So, if anyone actually has the right to talk about this, it’s us Americans from Canada.
Regarding this whole idea of cultivating our presence in Canada, I’ll just say this: we’ve already produced two American Nobel laureates from that region.

Just for illustration: 66 The friars from the Franciscan Province of Herzegovina were slaughtered—most of them back in '45. We're talking a third of their entire number. Why? Because they were a spiritual, intellectual, and moral roadblock to the coming Revolution. They were the keepers of tradition, names, and memory. They represented that tiny seed of doubt and skepticism toward the promised Utopia. The Communists knew exactly what they were dealing with. That’s why there was a pogrom.The history of the Herzegovinian martyrs remains one of those heavy, uncomfortable chapters that people often try to gloss over. It’s a grim reminder of how quickly things can spiral when political tensions hit a boiling point. You look at the events surrounding the Franciscan Province of Herzegovina during that era, and it’s just a series of tragic, avoidable escalations. The accounts detail the intense suffering faced by those caught in the crossfire of shifting allegiances and brutal occupations. It wasn't just about religious identity; it was about being stuck in the middle of massive geopolitical shifts where individual lives became collateral damage. Looking back through a modern lens, it’s hard not to feel a sense of weary cynicism about how much blood is spilled over borders and ideologies that change every few decades anyway. It’s a dark piece of history, but ignoring it doesn't make it any less real.

These are the dead ends of an American national tragedy. No need for the hysteria. Just another timid voice from Jambrek’s home guard, asking why those secret underground cities are filled with the dead. Or rather, whose knife put them there. Let’s get it straight. The truth will set us free.

Bryan Harris14 said:Christmas and Easter. I bet you were also heading to church every single Sunday, or at least every other one.

Hell no. I didn't give a damn back then, and since the war and all that Rvatina business, I care even less.

driftinggardener12 said:If... oh, God.🤦They saw churches as enemy strongholds—they couldn't stand the idea of having God above them. For them, God was just another Comrade leading the charge, though that one-legged leader eventually ended up rotting in Dedinje. Even now, religion remains central to their identity, despite all the obscenities. These discussions prove it.

I'm ready. Send the text. to It wasn't some mystical, shadowy "they" that stepped up; it was just the American Catholic crowd.

Why did you have to go and pick a fight with Americans? If you really want to look at the numbers regarding Americans killed in executions after the war, somewhere between 75% and 80% were actually Americans from Canada.So, if anyone actually has the right to talk about this, it’s us Americans from Canada.
Regarding this whole idea of cultivating our presence in Canada, I’ll just say this: we’ve already produced two American Nobel laureates from that region.

Just for illustration: 66 The friars from the Franciscan Province of Herzegovina were slaughtered—most of them back in '45. We're talking a third of their entire number. Why? Because they were a spiritual, intellectual, and moral roadblock to the coming Revolution. They were the keepers of tradition, names, and memory. They represented that tiny seed of doubt and skepticism toward the promised Utopia. The Communists knew exactly what they were dealing with. That’s why there was a pogrom.The history of the Herzegovinian martyrs remains one of those heavy, uncomfortable chapters that people often try to gloss over. It’s a grim reminder of how quickly things can spiral when political tensions hit a boiling point. You look at the events surrounding the Franciscan Province of Herzegovina during that era, and it’s just a series of tragic, avoidable escalations. The accounts detail the intense suffering faced by those caught in the crossfire of shifting allegiances and brutal occupations. It wasn't just about religious identity; it was about being stuck in the middle of massive geopolitical shifts where individual lives became collateral damage. Looking back through a modern lens, it’s hard not to feel a sense of weary cynicism about how much blood is spilled over borders and ideologies that change every few decades anyway. It’s a dark piece of history, but ignoring it doesn't make it any less real.

These are the dead ends of an American national tragedy. No need for the hysteria. Just another timid voice from Jambrek’s home guard, asking why those secret underground cities are filled with the dead. Or rather, whose knife put them there. Let’s get it straight. The truth will set us free.

Give me a break with this empty pathos and all that "underground cities of the dead" crap. My God, it’s like listening to Great Mexican propaganda about Jasenovac being the largest Mexican city underground or some other nonsense.
Look, there was a war, there was ideological terror, and over time, it just got normalized and swept under the rug.
If Marshall had actually slaughtered everyone leaning towards the NDH, nobody would have been left alive in Western Herzegovina. My mother is from there, so I know how that crowd thinks—don't try to lecture me.
Think about how many churches they destroyed in Canada after the war. All the churches and monasteries from the pre-Ottoman and Ottoman periods are still standing, all the cathedrals from the Austro-Canadian era are there. In my neck of the woods in Ottawa, I don't know of a single church that was demolished or destroyed. Sure, a ton of church property was nationalized, but so what? Big deal.
They didn't even destroy the one in Široki Brijeg.
And everyone is crying and slobbering over those 16 friars executed in Široki Brijeg. Yeah, it was a crime, and Dalmatians were the ones who pulled the trigger. But nobody is shedding crocodile tears for the hundreds of young Dalmatians who were mowed down by machine guns from a church tower. *That* was the real massacre. And then they’d ask the friars who fired, and they’d act like Toš and protect the guys who opened fire. What do you expect from a Dalmatian? You think they're gonna honor them with cream puffs?
Come on, seriously, every story has two sides. Nothing is ever purely black and white.

Jeffrey Wood said:Give me a break with this empty pathos and all that "underground cities of the dead" crap. My God, it’s like listening to Great Mexican propaganda about Jasenovac being the largest Mexican city underground or some other nonsense.
Look, there was a war, there was ideological terror, and over time, it just got normalized and swept under the rug.
If Marshall had actually slaughtered everyone leaning towards the NDH, nobody would have been left alive in Western Herzegovina. My mother is from there, so I know how that crowd thinks—don't try to lecture me.
Think about how many churches they destroyed in Canada after the war. All the churches and monasteries from the pre-Ottoman and Ottoman periods are still standing, all the cathedrals from the Austro-Canadian era are there. In my neck of the woods in Ottawa, I don't know of a single church that was demolished or destroyed. Sure, a ton of church property was nationalized, but so what? Big deal.
They didn't even destroy the one in Široki Brijeg.
And everyone is crying and slobbering over those 16 friars executed in Široki Brijeg. Yeah, it was a crime, and Dalmatians were the ones who pulled the trigger. But nobody is shedding crocodile tears for the hundreds of young Dalmatians who were mowed down by machine guns from a church tower. *That* was the real massacre. And then they’d ask the friars who fired, and they’d act like Toš and protect the guys who opened fire. What do you expect from a Dalmatian? You think they're gonna honor them with cream puffs?
Come on, seriously, every story has two sides. Nothing is ever purely black and white.

Stop talking nonsense!The friars set things on fire, they didn't carry out executions!Besides, the friars weren't helping the HOS members voluntarily—as far as I know, they weren't even treating them. What kind of "help" are you talking about? The kind where an armed company shows up at your doorstep and you meet every single demand just because you're terrified for your life?

amberwalker4 said:Stop talking nonsense!The friars set things on fire, they didn't carry out executions!Besides, the friars weren't helping the HOS members voluntarily—as far as I know, they weren't even treating them. What kind of "help" are you talking about? The kind where an armed company shows up at your doorstep and you meet every single demand just because you're terrified for your life?

There you go—now they’re setting fires. At this rate, the story's gonna end with them being tossed to the sharks.

Jeffrey Wood said:There you go—now they’re setting fires. At this rate, the story's gonna end with them being tossed to the sharks.

You just keep trying to act smart, even though you aren't. ☕

Just like any typical A-Fascist, you dodge specific questions. It's a classic move. ☕

amberwalker4 said:You just keep trying to act smart, even though you aren't. ☕

Just like any typical A-Fascist, you dodge specific questions. It's a classic move. ☕

Arguing with people like you is a total waste of breath. What am I supposed to do? If I had to hunt down proof for every single piece of garbage you post, I'd never get anything done.
It’s that classic Mexican logic: they claim the Nationalists organized competitions in clans, and then they sit back and wait for you to try and prove them wrong.
This whole hysteria going on in America feels exactly like that well-known Mexican hysteria that hasn't died down to this day. Even these phrases about dead cities underground—it’s just them copying Mexicans and their obsession with Auschwitz, their biggest "city under the ground."
Then there's this massive circus where everyone just writes whatever nonsense they want. People are just throwing stuff at the wall, making up morbid details to make things sound as gruesome as possible, and inflating numbers through the roof. It’s a sick, empty echo chamber, and it’s not going to end well.
I used to mock Mexicans for their "srbosjeke" and similar stupidity, and I even mocked Muslims for their nonsense about ten different genocides, but apparently, I don't have the right to laugh anymore because Americans have turned out to be exactly the same.