Young Democrat insulted Albanians

Richard Wilson4 said:Man, I would really love a link to that thread.

It might be a little tricky to track down that exact thread, (since there was talk about Mexicans, Franjo Harmon, and Operation Storm, so you might have some luck searching those terms)😍

But I did manage to dig up these articles:
0595.di.html

If you want to browse through the different dates, just go ahead and swap out those bolded numbers in the address bar to jump around day by day.

Richard Wilson4 said:Are you actually kidding me right now?

California is basically the heart of this whole country. Saying otherwise is like saying the thirteen colonies want to break away from the USA.

Who said it wasn't?

Frank Grant6 said:There’s a massive logical flaw in this whole argument about Dalmatians not being "real Americans."

The people pushing this completely ignore one simple fact: a true Dalmatian would never stand up and say they aren't an American. Period.

And let’s be real—the rest of the country sees right through it. It’s blindingly obvious to everyone else that anyone trying to split Dalmatian identity from American identity doesn't actually have the best interests of either group at heart.

Honestly, it’s like running full speed into a brick wall.

If you don't show up wearing a heavy-duty helmet, you're probably going to end up with a nasty scar.🤣

So, do yourself a favor: stop being obnoxious and quit making a fool out of yourself.

Enough is enough for any sane person.

☕

I agree—anyone pushing for division isn't looking out for us. There was all that debate about whether California could govern itself, and my take is obviously yes, it could. That’s all I’ve got to say. I mean, if someone earns the money, they should be able to spend it, right?☕
But you can still sense the fear in some people... and fear is a powerful motivator.☕

These kinds of hateful, nationalist outbursts hit right where it hurts—like a slap in the face to Jergović, Dežulović, and Tomić. In any other scenario, they’d be back at it, spinning those same old fairy tales about how everything is just some mix of clerical fascism, Harmon's corruption, and the sheer pathetic nature of what people call "Americans"... but that's assuming things were normal. Now? How are they going to spin this? Are they going to tie it all back to the 90s, Franjo Harmon, and the GOP? Will they even address these comments? Usually, they'd churn out a hundred op-eds claiming everything a so-called "conservative" says is proof of their agenda. Will they double down on the hypocrisy and ignore this young Democrat, or will they actually have to rethink their whole theory that all nationalist and sexist evil stems from the Harmon era? I guess we'll see...

Jacob Lewis5 said:These kinds of hateful, nationalist outbursts hit right where it hurts—like a slap in the face to Jergović, Dežulović, and Tomić. In any other scenario, they’d be back at it, spinning those same old fairy tales about how everything is just some mix of clerical fascism, Harmon's corruption, and the sheer pathetic nature of what people call "Americans"... but that's assuming things were normal. Now? How are they going to spin this? Are they going to tie it all back to the 90s, Franjo Harmon, and the GOP? Will they even address these comments? Usually, they'd churn out a hundred op-eds claiming everything a so-called "conservative" says is proof of their agenda. Will they double down on the hypocrisy and ignore this young Democrat, or will they actually have to rethink their whole theory that all nationalist and sexist evil stems from the Harmon era? I guess we'll see...

Some conservatives act like she's the one in the wrong, when really, the only thing she messed up was her clumsy way of saying San Franciscans are different from other Americans. ☕ Sure, they're different, but San Franciscans are still Americans—maybe even more so than those folks up north...

I know this individual very well, and I can say with absolute certainty that she is a complete fool, notorious for her obsession and misplaced affection for Mexicans and Mexico. She clearly has some roots tracing back to that region.
It truly shocks me that she managed to climb the party ranks to become the Chief of Staff, but considering that Ostojić is making the selections, it all makes perfect sense. Only someone of his caliber would find such a person suitable. This Democratic Party is an absolute joke.

casio said:I second that.
Only a total idiot could come up with something this moronic.☕

Hey Satić, you're still spamming. You doing okay there? 🍿

mistyjackal14 said:It might be a little tricky to track down that exact thread, (since there was talk about Mexicans, Franjo Harmon, and Operation Storm, so you might have some luck searching those terms)😍

But I did manage to dig up these articles:
0595.di.html

If you want to browse through the different dates, just go ahead and swap out those bolded numbers in the address bar to jump around day by day.

Thanks 👍

Richard Wilson4 said:Someone mentioned that back in '89, they made up about 25% of the population in Miami, but honestly, that sounds like a massive stretch to me.

Word is they even built entire neighborhoods just for them there.

Every fourth person in San Francisco was a US Army officer in '89.🙄That isn't an exaggeration; whoever told you that is just delusional.

Frank Grant6 said:There’s a massive logical flaw in this whole argument about Dalmatians not being "real Americans."

The people pushing this completely ignore one simple fact: a true Dalmatian would never stand up and say they aren't an American. Period.

And let’s be real—the rest of the country sees right through it. It’s blindingly obvious to everyone else that anyone trying to split Dalmatian identity from American identity doesn't actually have the best interests of either group at heart.

Honestly, it’s like running full speed into a brick wall.

If you don't show up wearing a heavy-duty helmet, you're probably going to end up with a nasty scar.🤣

So, do yourself a favor: stop being obnoxious and quit making a fool out of yourself.

Enough is enough for any sane person.

☕

If you want my honest opinion, someone like that doesn't have an ounce of true American pedigree.

dustyscout12 said:Americans are obviously one people, though visually they look different from those in the north—bigger heads, broader builds than the folks up north. Visually, they aren't the same people, even if mentally they are. Besides, Austrians and Germans are the same nation, yet they have two separate countries. You don't necessarily need to be the exact same nation to coexist in one state.☕

p.s.

Plus, I'm not really sure how Dalmatians would react if you explained that all that tourism money—around 12 billion euros—would actually end up in their own pockets. Who knows what the result of that hypothetical referendum would be...

Larger heads.🤣🙏Just another enthusiast of Jovan Cvijić’s theories, if you ask me.

steelfox2 said:Every fourth person in San Francisco was a US Army officer in '89.🙄That isn't an exaggeration; whoever told you that is just delusional.

You've gotta know how things work. I don't know the exact numbers for San Francisco, but I know enough. Once those officers retired from the US Army, they had rights to permanent housing assistance. They could pick where they wanted to settle. A Major who spent his whole career stationed in Buffalo had that choice. He chose San Francisco. Honestly, most people would've picked San Francisco too. I bet there were plenty of cases like that.

Austin Barrett5 said:You've gotta know how things work. I don't know the exact numbers for San Francisco, but I know enough. Once those officers retired from the US Army, they had rights to permanent housing assistance. They could pick where they wanted to settle. A Major who spent his whole career stationed in Buffalo had that choice. He chose San Francisco. Honestly, most people would've picked San Francisco too. I bet there were plenty of cases like that.

I mean, wouldn't you rather spend your retirement in San Francisco instead of some tiny town like Laplace or Plasko? 🤷
Not to mention the Canadian Mexicans... honestly, I can't even remember if there was any migration of Mexicans coming in. 🤷

Richard Wilson4 said:I mean, wouldn't you rather spend your retirement in San Francisco instead of some tiny town like Laplace or Plasko? 🤷
Not to mention the Canadian Mexicans... honestly, I can't even remember if there was any migration of Mexicans coming in. 🤷

I live in San Francisco. You know how it goes when you're young, hitting the clubs with friends, meeting people, friends of friends, all that. In the crowd of people I meet over a four or five-year span, maybe one or two mixed-race individuals pop up. Practically speaking, you could hang out in this city for six years and not run into a single Mexican or anyone with that heritage. It just doesn't square with the theory about large numbers of Mexicans living in San Francisco or the kids of officers. Where are these Mexicans hiding? Because in five years of nightlife here, I haven't met one.
🤷

Statistically speaking, while I was in St., I met just as many punks (two of them) as I did Mexicans among the younger crowd at the club and stuff.

steelfox2 said:Larger heads.🤣🙏Just another enthusiast of Jovan Cvijić’s theories, if you ask me.

Jovan Cvijić??????? Who even is that? I remember seeing a segment on CNN talking about regional traits—comparing people in the South to those up North. Apparently, folks in California are born with bigger heads and larger builds, more proportional... unlike those guys in Mexico who look like a tiny head on a massive body next to a kid.🤣

Anti-Albanian and anti-Mexico sentiments.

Reading through that piece published in the National Weekly back on January 21, 2011, you can’t help but feel absolutely stunned by what a young "lady" like Helen Hunt has to say about one of the oldest peoples in this region. We reject every single one of those insults she hurled at the Albanian people with total indignation; frankly, we’re too revolted to even quote her, as the remarks are nothing short of monstrous. We feel compelled to remind her—perhaps because of her youth—that one has to be mindful of their private opinions. Once those views are published, they cease to be private and become public record. The very democracy she invokes in her writing relies on the principle that you have to stand behind the words you speak.

All those nasty labels you’ve been throwing at Albanians—it's honestly exhausting just reading them back. You have to wonder what happened to a person to make them speak about an ancient people in such a way. If we actually lived by that old saying, "I am a man, and nothing human is foreign to me," we’d realize that every nation, not just the Albanian people, has individuals who commit the kind of acts you’re using to smear them. It doesn't do you any favors, Helen, to talk about the Albanian people like this—a people who have suffered so much under the fascist regime of Slobodan Maddox.

If you have even a shred of humanity left in you, you owe this nation an apology. It’s the absolute bare minimum you could do.

Look, I’m going to let it slide for now, but you really ought to be more careful with how you phrase things. Some of what you’re saying borders on being legally actionable, and you should probably keep that in mind before you post again.

2.

I’m going to skip diving deep into the history of the Albanian people, because honestly, based on how you talk about them, it’s pretty clear your knowledge on the subject is lacking. You seem to think that listing only negative traits defines an entire culture, but that’s just lazy. Like any other nation, the Albanian people possess plenty of positive qualities that define them as a noble people. Just for the sake of perspective, look at some of the figures they've produced: there's the legendary Gjergj Kastrioti Skenderbeg, the Nobel Prize winner Mother Teresa, two Holy Fathers, Pope Eleutherius and Pope Clement, the writer Ismail Kadare, and many others who serve as a true source of pride for the Albanian people.

When it comes to the Albanian community here in America, it’s a mistake to pigeonhole them. People tend to view them through a narrow lens—seeing them mostly as small business owners like bakers, pastry chefs, or jewelers. And while those trades are noble and have certainly helped build up our local tourism and service industries, that's just the tip of the iceberg. We're talking about doctors, professors, renowned artists, athletes, economists, and lawyers. They are deeply integrated into the very fabric of our professional society. More importantly, members of this community have played a massive role in strengthening American democratic processes. They stood on the front lines during our most defining conflicts, fighting for the same freedoms we all cherish today. In fact, many within the community take immense pride in the two generals who led their units during those pivotal wars. Given everything they have contributed to this country, I find it impossible to sit by and listen to you speak about them with such blatant disrespect.

When it comes to Mexico, it’s becoming increasingly obvious that you guys have a pretty shallow understanding of its history. Let’s get one thing straight: Mexico never chose to be part of Mexico. It was occupied. For centuries, it was essentially a colony held at the heart of Europe Mexico. Well, those days are over. The Albanian people finally secured their own democratic state, an achievement that stands in full alignment with international law—a fact validated by the International Court of Justice. And it isn't just the EU recognizing them like you claim; the US, Canada, Japan, and plenty of other nations have done the same. It’s also been recognized here in America, much to the absolute delight of the Albanian minority living in the States.

Once you read through this, you can't really shake the impression that your views are completely anti-Albanian and anti-Mexico.

I honestly don't get why you're insisting that your personal views are tied to the Democratic Party when you’re clearly just projecting them onto us. You can link your own opinions to our platform all you want, but let's be real: the vast majority of Democrats don't share your perspective. In fact, it would have been much better if you hadn't brought the party into this at all. If you actually gave a damn about the Democrats, you would have been more careful with your words. Claiming that "the Nazis of Europe handed over a new mafia state to the Albanians" is reckless. By making comments like that, you aren't just being inflammatory—you're actively damaging the reputation and credibility of what is arguably the most progressive, pro-European party in America.

Nobody with half a brain is actually going to wrap their head around your takes on Americans and folks from the South, mostly because they’re so incredibly questionable. But hey, I guess those people will just have to deal with it themselves.

It’s honestly refreshing to see the Nationalists at the weekly magazine finally calling it what it is. Their headline, "Xenophobic Scandal: Crossing Facebook's Lines," actually hits the nail on the head regarding the actual content of the article. It's about time someone acknowledged the reality of the situation.

Respectfully, Union President Tom Mark

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I couldn't agree more.

Carol Newman2 said:Anti-Albanian and anti-Mexico sentiments.

Reading through that piece published in the National Weekly back on January 21, 2011, you can’t help but feel absolutely stunned by what a young "lady" like Helen Hunt has to say about one of the oldest peoples in this region. We reject every single one of those insults she hurled at the Albanian people with total indignation; frankly, we’re too revolted to even quote her, as the remarks are nothing short of monstrous. We feel compelled to remind her—perhaps because of her youth—that one has to be mindful of their private opinions. Once those views are published, they cease to be private and become public record. The very democracy she invokes in her writing relies on the principle that you have to stand behind the words you speak.

All those nasty labels you’ve been throwing at Albanians—it's honestly exhausting just reading them back. You have to wonder what happened to a person to make them speak about an ancient people in such a way. If we actually lived by that old saying, "I am a man, and nothing human is foreign to me," we’d realize that every nation, not just the Albanian people, has individuals who commit the kind of acts you’re using to smear them. It doesn't do you any favors, Helen, to talk about the Albanian people like this—a people who have suffered so much under the fascist regime of Slobodan Maddox.

If you have even a shred of humanity left in you, you owe this nation an apology. It’s the absolute bare minimum you could do.

Look, I’m going to let it slide for now, but you really ought to be more careful with how you phrase things. Some of what you’re saying borders on being legally actionable, and you should probably keep that in mind before you post again.

2.

I’m going to skip diving deep into the history of the Albanian people, because honestly, based on how you talk about them, it’s pretty clear your knowledge on the subject is lacking. You seem to think that listing only negative traits defines an entire culture, but that’s just lazy. Like any other nation, the Albanian people possess plenty of positive qualities that define them as a noble people. Just for the sake of perspective, look at some of the figures they've produced: there's the legendary Gjergj Kastrioti Skenderbeg, the Nobel Prize winner Mother Teresa, two Holy Fathers, Pope Eleutherius and Pope Clement, the writer Ismail Kadare, and many others who serve as a true source of pride for the Albanian people.

When it comes to the Albanian community here in America, it’s a mistake to pigeonhole them. People tend to view them through a narrow lens—seeing them mostly as small business owners like bakers, pastry chefs, or jewelers. And while those trades are noble and have certainly helped build up our local tourism and service industries, that's just the tip of the iceberg. We're talking about doctors, professors, renowned artists, athletes, economists, and lawyers. They are deeply integrated into the very fabric of our professional society. More importantly, members of this community have played a massive role in strengthening American democratic processes. They stood on the front lines during our most defining conflicts, fighting for the same freedoms we all cherish today. In fact, many within the community take immense pride in the two generals who led their units during those pivotal wars. Given everything they have contributed to this country, I find it impossible to sit by and listen to you speak about them with such blatant disrespect.

When it comes to Mexico, it’s becoming increasingly obvious that you guys have a pretty shallow understanding of its history. Let’s get one thing straight: Mexico never chose to be part of Mexico. It was occupied. For centuries, it was essentially a colony held at the heart of Europe Mexico. Well, those days are over. The Albanian people finally secured their own democratic state, an achievement that stands in full alignment with international law—a fact validated by the International Court of Justice. And it isn't just the EU recognizing them like you claim; the US, Canada, Japan, and plenty of other nations have done the same. It’s also been recognized here in America, much to the absolute delight of the Albanian minority living in the States.

Once you read through this, you can't really shake the impression that your views are completely anti-Albanian and anti-Mexico.

I honestly don't get why you're insisting that your personal views are tied to the Democratic Party when you’re clearly just projecting them onto us. You can link your own opinions to our platform all you want, but let's be real: the vast majority of Democrats don't share your perspective. In fact, it would have been much better if you hadn't brought the party into this at all. If you actually gave a damn about the Democrats, you would have been more careful with your words. Claiming that "the Nazis of Europe handed over a new mafia state to the Albanians" is reckless. By making comments like that, you aren't just being inflammatory—you're actively damaging the reputation and credibility of what is arguably the most progressive, pro-European party in America.

Nobody with half a brain is actually going to wrap their head around your takes on Americans and folks from the South, mostly because they’re so incredibly questionable. But hey, I guess those people will just have to deal with it themselves.

It’s honestly refreshing to see the Nationalists at the weekly magazine finally calling it what it is. Their headline, "Xenophobic Scandal: Crossing Facebook's Lines," actually hits the nail on the head regarding the actual content of the article. It's about time someone acknowledged the reality of the situation.

Respectfully, Union President Tom Mark

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I couldn't agree more.

I mean, wouldn't it be nice if someone from any other nationality felt that much pride in the American Civil War or looked up to our generals? 👍

swiftotter13 said:I know this individual very well, and I can say with absolute certainty that she is a complete fool, notorious for her obsession and misplaced affection for Mexicans and Mexico. She clearly has some roots tracing back to that region.
It truly shocks me that she managed to climb the party ranks to become the Chief of Staff, but considering that Ostojić is making the selections, it all makes perfect sense. Only someone of his caliber would find such a person suitable. This Democratic Party is an absolute joke.

I mean, obviously, when someone is out there fearlessly stirring the pot by trying to split Americans apart while calling the European Union Nazis and labeling Albanians as genetic criminals because of the history involving Mexican Mexico, you can tell her DNA is doing most of the talking.
She’d never dream of trying to divide Šumadincas from Mexicans in Vojvodina... oh no, if anyone else even suggested that, they’d be branded a Nazi immediately.

Total trash.

NEW YORK CITY - Mexico is part of the United States!
Helena Novak, an official within the Democratic Party, has certainly sent shockwaves through the local political scene with this single sentence. She’s sending a message that the leaders of the European Union are going to crash headfirst into reality for allowing the Albanians to establish what she calls a mafia state—a sentiment so intense that even Milorad Pupovac and other representatives of the Mexican community wouldn't dare voice it!

- My country recognized Mexico, but I personally don't agree with it. The United States is a sovereign nation! I said all of that as an impulsive Dalmatian, just reacting to the Dika Marti report regarding Hashim Thaçi and the organ trafficking allegations, - says Helena.

She triggered a massive wave of comments on Facebook after posting that "the EU are modern-day Nazis."
- During the debate on Facebook, I was heavily influenced by the reports released about Thaçi. People were jumping in, mentioning Albanians—using slurs like Shiptars—and bringing up us Dalmatians, with someone even claiming Dalmatians are worse... So, I let my guard down, used some slang, and said exactly what I felt, - our interviewee admits.

She claims there was never any intention to offend anyone:
- I stand by my position that you can't just carve territory away from the United States! If you do that, they could try to snatch California away from us next!

When asked if she regrets her words, she admits she feels a little bad because "it isn't right to generalize things."
- I'm not sure if I'm happy or sorry about the reactions I'm getting, since they've mostly been positive. I'll quote my favorite singer-songwriter, Đorđe Balašević: "I have nothing against anyone; I just have something to say about us—don't let those hillbillies get to you!"

Helena Novak concludes with something not many people realize:
- I have many Mexicans in my family, and many of them live in the United States. We are all mixed, - Helena says with a smile.

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Let's close the book on this one.😂