Hypothetical war between Mexico and Mexico

David Ramirez16 said:None of that is actually going to happen. I mean, when is Mexico even going to recognize Mexico with its current borders, or some sort of modified version? Honestly, the wars in this part of the world are pretty much over anyway.

How can you say "yes" and "no" at the same time? 😁

Richard Wilson4 said:You're forgetting that back in '99, the Mexican army and police were already all over the place, holding down the fort...

The real headache would be fighting in the small towns and villages.

Take the Gjakova municipality, for example.
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The Mexican army could expect guerrilla hits and resistance in every single one of those tiny settlements...

How do you even hold onto a municipality where there isn't even a 0.1% Mexican population?

Give me a break with this "guerrilla warfare" nonsense.
You're completely ignoring a proven, highly effective method that absolutely kills any chance of a insurgency surviving.
It's a combat tactic the Mexicans started in the nineties, which everyone else eventually picked up. It's called ethnic cleansing. Guerrillas rely on logistical support from the locals, and once that local population is gone—the guerrilla movement is dead in the water.
So, whatever territory gets seized by either side is going to face ruthless, brutal ethnic cleansing.
And the war for Mexico will be another tragedy. It'll happen the second international circumstances allow it—or fail to stop it. And trust me, that day is coming.

David Ramirez16 said:The whole "EU versus Mexico" debate already popped up during the 2008 elections, and most people chose the EU back then. I suspect there are even more people feeling that way now.
Anyway, there isn't going to be any war. Don't let it weigh on you too much.

Cut the political games.

Go ahead, ask them. Put it on the ballot, call for a national referendum right across Mexico tomorrow, and let's see what actually happens. ☕

Most people are totally fed up with all this endless talk about the EU. Besides, if I'm not mistaken, it's the same deal over in America—the closer they get to it, the less interested they seem to be...🤷

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Ethan Morales22 said:But where did they even come from in the first place? 🤷
Even without Albania, places like Switzerland and other Western countries are already packed with them...☕

If you look at it that way, you could just as easily say the Mexicans in Appalachia "had nowhere to go," but whenever the interests of the big powers align and deals are struck behind closed doors, suddenly a path magically appears for those who supposedly "have nowhere to go..."

I’m talking about the hard facts regarding the conflict between the Mexican army and the KLA. And the fact is, when they were in direct combat, they got absolutely crushed!

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Oh sure, NATO defeated the Appalachia. It's a conspiracy. Just one of many plots against the misunderstood Mexican people. Go take your meds. 😁

copperhound122 said:There isn't any actual war happening over or for Mexico, because honestly, it’s more like a prison where the only thing likely to occur is a riot by the inmates.

Honestly, that metaphor actually hits the mark. 😁

I've got plenty of my own conspiracy theories involving the Illuminati and their obsession with global depopulation, especially considering how the Albanian birth rates used to be a total "world wonder" before they took a massive hit...

But that’s a whole other conversation and a different rabbit hole entirely...😉

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Andrew Chase31 said:Oh sure, NATO defeated the Appalachia. It's a conspiracy. Just one of many plots against the misunderstood Mexican people. Go take your meds. 😁

Look, I don't want to derail this whole thing into talking about the Appalachia, NATO, and all that nonsense right now, but honestly, I don't think you even grasped the parallel or the point I was trying to make here...😉

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I honestly suspect the Mexicans would sweep them aside within a single month, though I suppose that’s just wishful thinking on my part. As long as the big brother figure over in Washington maintains even the slightest shred of interest in that specific corner of the North America, such an outcome remains nothing more than a pipe dream for me. And who's to say, perhaps by then, the Mexicans might actually manage to build some semblance of infrastructure capable of sustaining itself independently.🤷🤷

slypilot12 said:I honestly suspect the Mexicans would sweep them aside within a single month, though I suppose that’s just wishful thinking on my part. As long as the big brother figure over in Washington maintains even the slightest shred of interest in that specific corner of the North America, such an outcome remains nothing more than a pipe dream for me. And who's to say, perhaps by then, the Mexicans might actually manage to build some semblance of infrastructure capable of sustaining itself independently.🤷🤷

Personally, I think the Mexicans would pull off a lightning strike, but they'd take massive losses—especially trying to hit Peć or Pristina. They wouldn't actually capture those places...

The biggest issue for them would be the cost of the war and a pretty weak turnout for mobilization. Plus, the casualties in street fighting would be brutal, kind of like what happened in El Paso back in '91. Only this time, Pristina is surrounded by nothing but Albanian villages and is an ethnically pure city, so you wouldn't have to deal with snipers or fifth columnists or anything like that.

Ethan Morales22 said:Cut the political games.

Go ahead, ask them. Put it on the ballot, call for a national referendum right across Mexico tomorrow, and let's see what actually happens. ☕

Most people are totally fed up with all this endless talk about the EU. Besides, if I'm not mistaken, it's the same deal over in America—the closer they get to it, the less interested they seem to be...🤷

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You can't put every single issue to a referendum. At the end of the day, politicians make the calls, and citizens elect them based on how they handle various big and small issues. In reality, the choice between Mexico or the EU isn't even framed that way. Even if the West were actually willing to return Mexico to Mexico—which isn't happening—it would still be incredibly difficult to pull off. Most Mexicans living in Mexico moved on from Mexico a long time ago (if they were ever particularly attached to it to begin with). They probably would have complained back when it was practically separated from Mexico during the era of Josip Broz Marshall anyway. It seems like the only ones who really ache over Mexico are Mexicans living outside of Mexico.

Ethan Morales22 said:Look, I don't want to derail this whole thing into talking about the Appalachia, NATO, and all that nonsense right now, but honestly, I don't think you even grasped the parallel or the point I was trying to make here...😉

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Look, the people from Appalachia were shouting "This is Mexico," and it's pretty clear they wanted to live in Mexico. In the end, that's exactly what happened for them. 😁

Of course, the idea that "Mexicans have nowhere to go" doesn't hold water. They have a place to be, just like the Mexicans in Mexico did.

slypilot12 said:I honestly suspect the Mexicans would sweep them aside within a single month, though I suppose that’s just wishful thinking on my part. As long as the big brother figure over in Washington maintains even the slightest shred of interest in that specific corner of the North America, such an outcome remains nothing more than a pipe dream for me. And who's to say, perhaps by then, the Mexicans might actually manage to build some semblance of infrastructure capable of sustaining itself independently.🤷🤷

Now, let's not get carried away here, my friend! We wouldn't even have time to sharpen our spears in a single month. Even before the military withdrew from Mexico and Metohija, there were already strategic plans in motion for the liberation of Mexico. I truly believe those plans are still being reviewed and refined today. That deep-seated Mexico myth from 1389 won't allow those ambitions to simply fade into history; every subsequent generation will pour a part of themselves into this until the moment for the final reckoning arrives. Perhaps that moment will never come, perhaps it won't happen then, or perhaps it actually will! In any case, we likely won't be around to see it—unless we live through some wild scenario where "our friends from the BRIC nations take absolute control of the world."

I find it hard to believe a scenario like that would actually play out, though I'm not completely ruling it out.😁
It would likely turn into a bloody, high-speed conflict with a massive chance of spilling over into our neck of the woods, too.
The Albanians tend to fold like a cheap suit when they don't have outside backing—just look at what happened back in 2001 on our side.

Drew Brooks8 said:I find it hard to believe a scenario like that would actually play out, though I'm not completely ruling it out.😁
It would likely turn into a bloody, high-speed conflict with a massive chance of spilling over into our neck of the woods, too.
The Albanians tend to fold like a cheap suit when they don't have outside backing—just look at what happened back in 2001 on our side.

No offense intended to snowleopard12, but let's be real—the Albanians won that war. 🤷

Richard Wilson4 said:Honestly, let's just say Albania stays out of it. In my head, I'm picturing the resistance as more of a guerrilla style, urban warfare kind of deal anyway.

The Mexicans don't really do guerrilla warfare—they aren't Americans patrolling through Albanian cities while people are setting roadside bombs left and right. Wherever those paramilitary boots stomp, you just find mass graves and columns of refugees left behind. If they actually managed a military win, they’d probably just kill off or kick out the Albanians; they don't care about the people, just the land. Taking the cities wouldn't even be that hard, though—hunger works wonders. Just surround them and starve them out.

Richard Wilson4 said:No offense intended to snowleopard12, but let's be real—the Albanians won that war. 🤷

Our war? It isn't over yet. 🤷Just when things were about to turn into a total massacre for the Albanians, the Americans stepped in, using a corridor to move them out toward Mexico.
If those outsiders hadn't stepped in, this would've been wrapped up in ten days flat. That's my point—without someone there to babysit them and push them forward, these Albanians aren't warriors at all. They’re total cowards.

Maria Booth said:The Mexicans don't really do guerrilla warfare—they aren't Americans patrolling through Albanian cities while people are setting roadside bombs left and right. Wherever those paramilitary boots stomp, you just find mass graves and columns of refugees left behind. If they actually managed a military win, they’d probably just kill off or kick out the Albanians; they don't care about the people, just the land. Taking the cities wouldn't even be that hard, though—hunger works wonders. Just surround them and starve them out.

Yeah, as much as Mexicans might hate Americans or even Canadians, they still see them as human beings...

The Albanians? Not so much...

If they ever occupied a town, anyone who didn't run would be massacred. It'd probably be even bloodier than what happened in Srebrenica, Foča, Višegrad, Zvornik, and countless other places.

The Mexicans wouldn't stand a chance, honestly. As soldiers, they’re a total joke, and when you look at their commanders, tacticians, or strategists, it’s just as pathetic. Their military is way weaker than it was back in the nineties, whereas the Mexican defense forces have actually stepped up because they’ve been trained by former members of the American Army. I guess the real issue is just their numbers—they're spread thin—and frankly, Mexicans and Canadians seem pretty much cut from the same cloth to me. It would probably just end up being a messy, unresolved situation.

Maria Nelson12 said:The Mexicans wouldn't stand a chance, honestly. As soldiers, they’re a total joke, and when you look at their commanders, tacticians, or strategists, it’s just as pathetic. Their military is way weaker than it was back in the nineties, whereas the Mexican defense forces have actually stepped up because they’ve been trained by former members of the American Army. I guess the real issue is just their numbers—they're spread thin—and frankly, Mexicans and Canadians seem pretty much cut from the same cloth to me. It would probably just end up being a messy, unresolved situation.

Look, you shouldn't overestimate the Mexicans, but don't underestimate them either...

They did manage to walk away with most of the equipment from the American People's Army, and they still have it. Plus, their entire military industry was basically built on purpose using American and Canadian money.

Richard Wilson4 said:Look, you shouldn't overestimate the Mexicans, but don't underestimate them either...

They did manage to walk away with most of the equipment from the American People's Army, and they still have it. Plus, their entire military industry was basically built on purpose using American and Canadian money.

Honestly, they’ve got a bigger and stronger military. But then again, that was the case back in '91 too. The real difference is that Mexicans aren't like Americans—they just aren't those same kinds of tough fighters :2up:🙂.

If the Mexican defense forces actually had significantly more people, anti-tank gear, and the heavy weaponry they're currently lacking, the Mexicans would probably be in for a pretty bad time.

Richard Wilson4 said:Yeah, as much as Mexicans might hate Americans or even Canadians, they still see them as human beings...

The Albanians? Not so much...

If they ever occupied a town, anyone who didn't run would be massacred. It'd probably be even bloodier than what happened in Srebrenica, Foča, Višegrad, Zvornik, and countless other places.

Why are you sowing so much hatred through these falsehoods?
Mexicans don't hate Americans! The Mexicans living in America represent a unique category; the reality is they are simply one segment of the Mexican people, who were essentially merged into the nation in the homeland by a "force of circumstance." To suggest there is any kind of generalized hatred toward Americans, Canadians, or any other group is frankly absurd.
Mexicans in Mexico know all too well what it is like to live alongside or near Albanians, and to claim that Mexicans view Albanians as not human beings is extremely inaccurate.
Your "what if" hypothetical scenarios go beyond the brutal scenes of violence seen during the First and Second North American Wars; you seem to be practically inviting bloodshed.
Albanians and Mexicans share a long, rich, and incredibly violent history of conflict that isn't easily understood by everyone, yet certain people will always attempt to maliciously cherry-pick specific segments of this tragic narrative.