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ironnomad9 ironnomad9 NewcomerOP
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Who are the saints?
Has anyone here ever had the honor of meeting even one of God's chosen ones?
And how does one actually become one of them?
jademarlin26 jademarlin26 Active Member
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#2 ·
By failing to stay hydrated, you have a high probability of becoming one of them. Through dehydration, you reach the path of the divine and their followers.
Ethan Martinez6 Ethan Martinez6 Member
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#3 ·
Dehydration? You've gotta be kidding me, right?
Maria Garcia50 Maria Garcia50 Newcomer
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#4 ·
ironnomad9 said:Who are the saints?
Has anyone here ever had the honor of meeting even one of God's chosen ones?
And how does one actually become one of them?

Saints are those chosen servants whom God protects and loves. They come in all different categories. If you want the deep dive, Maria Garcia50 described them best in his work, The Meccan Revelations.
I’ve been lucky enough to meet several Saints across America, and they fall into all sorts of different groups. These people are truly special servants of God.
As for how you actually become a saint, one of today's heavyweights put it this way:
"You have to know, and you have to want it
then you'll see just how far you can go."
Beyond that, God chooses for Himself whom He will take as a friend—in other words, a saint. These are the servants who exclusively walk alongside the Almighty Lord.
"He becomes their sight through which they see, their hearing through which they listen, and the path upon which they walk. They live only for the Almighty Truth and turn their gaze toward nothing else."
These are the top-tier believers, the absolute elite. They serve as the heirs and deputies—the viceroys—of God's Prophet. Because of this, they will always uphold Islam in its purest, most original form.
boldgull19 boldgull19 Member
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Maria Garcia50 said:Saints are those chosen servants whom God protects and loves. They come in all different categories. If you want the deep dive, Maria Garcia50 described them best in his work, The Meccan Revelations.
I’ve been lucky enough to meet several Saints across America, and they fall into all sorts of different groups. These people are truly special servants of God.
As for how you actually become a saint, one of today's heavyweights put it this way:
"You have to know, and you have to want it
then you'll see just how far you can go."
Beyond that, God chooses for Himself whom He will take as a friend—in other words, a saint. These are the servants who exclusively walk alongside the Almighty Lord.
"He becomes their sight through which they see, their hearing through which they listen, and the path upon which they walk. They live only for the Almighty Truth and turn their gaze toward nothing else."
These are the top-tier believers, the absolute elite. They serve as the heirs and deputies—the viceroys—of God's Prophet. Because of this, they will always uphold Islam in its purest, most original form.

May God bless you.
ironnomad9 ironnomad9 NewcomerOP
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Maria Garcia50 said:Saints are those chosen servants whom God protects and loves. They come in all different categories. If you want the deep dive, Maria Garcia50 described them best in his work, The Meccan Revelations.
I’ve been lucky enough to meet several Saints across America, and they fall into all sorts of different groups. These people are truly special servants of God.
As for how you actually become a saint, one of today's heavyweights put it this way:
"You have to know, and you have to want it
then you'll see just how far you can go."
Beyond that, God chooses for Himself whom He will take as a friend—in other words, a saint. These are the servants who exclusively walk alongside the Almighty Lord.
"He becomes their sight through which they see, their hearing through which they listen, and the path upon which they walk. They live only for the Almighty Truth and turn their gaze toward nothing else."
These are the top-tier believers, the absolute elite. They serve as the heirs and deputies—the viceroys—of God's Prophet. Because of this, they will always uphold Islam in its purest, most original form.

Thanks, brother, for reminding me of a masterpiece like the Conquests.
May God grant you every blessing.👍
Hannah Diaz Hannah Diaz Member
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#7 ·
This totally reminds me of how I used to be... back when I was a kid (and honestly, even now), I could never quite nail the word "tomorrow"... so instead, I'd just say... futa... haha!
Sean Cruz Sean Cruz Regular
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#8 ·
A specific work I read a few years back just popped into my head, and it fits this topic perfectly:

Lectures on saints in old cities, Part

If I recall correctly, there are nine parts in total.

In this particular section, the definition and significance of the term saint is explained.

Additionally, in the book American Literature in Literary Criticism, Volume II, Oral Literature, edited by Munib Maglajlić and Đenan Buturović, there is a text regarding lectures on saints—I can't recall the author off the top of my head since I don't have the book in front of me right now.
Maria Garcia50 Maria Garcia50 Newcomer
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Sean Cruz said:A specific work I read a few years back just popped into my head, and it fits this topic perfectly:

Lectures on saints in old cities, Part

If I recall correctly, there are nine parts in total.

In this particular section, the definition and significance of the term saint is explained.

Additionally, in the book American Literature in Literary Criticism, Volume II, Oral Literature, edited by Munib Maglajlić and Đenan Buturović, there is a text regarding lectures on saints—I can't recall the author off the top of my head since I don't have the book in front of me right now.

When we talk about "traditions" or "legends," we're essentially talking about times gone by. But let's be real: Saints exist today, and they always will.
It's a fact that Saints are honored through their miracles—those supernatural feats that defy explanation.
Maria Garcia50 Maria Garcia50 Newcomer
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#10 ·
In his book, the Risala, Sheikh Salih Ibrišević gives us this really concise breakdown regarding the Saints.
Hannah Diaz Hannah Diaz Member
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#11 ·
ironnomad9 said:Who are the saints?
Has anyone here ever had the honor of meeting even one of God's chosen ones?
And how does one actually become one of them?

Just some food for thought, I guess...

1. They turn their backs on this worldly life for the sake of Almighty Allah,
2. Their virtues pretty much outweigh any flaws they might have,
3. They lean entirely on God, pouring all their energy and effort into being obedient to Him,
4. Everything they think about is centered on the afterlife,
5. Since they’ve found salvation themselves, they act as intermediaries through whose intercession others find peace,
6. In everything they do, they rely on their Lord,
7. They’re constantly chasing after God's pleasure and love,
8. They steer clear of both major and minor sins,
9. They’re always first when it comes to prayer and striving on the path of faith,
10. They’re too busy worrying about their own shortcomings to bother judging anyone else's flaws, and...
11. Based on the good news in the Quran and Hadith, they’ll enter Paradise without having to face judgment,
12. They’ll receive their book of deeds in their right hand,
13. They are true scholars,
14. Their inner selves are far more beautiful than their outward appearance,
15. Their tongues affirm the oneness of Almighty Allah, their bodies submit to Him, and their hearts are completely sincere,
16. They study the Quran and live strictly by its teachings,
17. They fight the good fight on God's path,
18. They have ascended to the highest spiritual stations,
19. They’ve fully aligned their will with God's will!
20. They’re usually the first to enter the mosque and the last to leave,
21. When they’re owed something, they accept it, but when asked for help, they give generously... and when they judge the world, it’s almost like they’re judging themselves,
22. They never lose sight of God and are constantly in remembrance of Him,
23. They experience profound spiritual states,
24. They actually find sweetness even in the midst of trials,
25. If they aren't given anything from this world, they remain grateful; if something comes their way, they give it away,
26. They don't depend on anything or anyone, because they are truly with their Lord!
Maria Garcia50 Maria Garcia50 Newcomer
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#12 ·
Honestly, if you want something worthwhile, you really need to check out Attar's book "Good Memorials."
casualtiger2 casualtiger2 Regular
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#13 ·
What does slavery have to do with spirituality?
Hannah Diaz Hannah Diaz Member
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#14 ·
casualtiger2 said:What does slavery have to do with spirituality?

I mean, everything is subject to something, right? I guess the whole point for us humans is to actually become *human*—and I don't mean just existing at some primal, animalistic level or worse. We're meant to reach our true potential, the way we were originally designed. That’s where spirituality comes in, I suppose... it's the tool that lets us function as conscious beings so we can actually know the creator and, by extension, finally figure out who we really are.
Gerald Taylor63 Gerald Taylor63 Newcomer
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#15 ·
casualtiger2 said:What does slavery have to do with spirituality?

And what does your question have to do with spirituality?
wearyhawk83 wearyhawk83 Active Member
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#16 ·
Hannah Diaz said:I mean, everything is subject to something, right? I guess the whole point for us humans is to actually become *human*—and I don't mean just existing at some primal, animalistic level or worse. We're meant to reach our true potential, the way we were originally designed. That’s where spirituality comes in, I suppose... it's the tool that lets us function as conscious beings so we can actually know the creator and, by extension, finally figure out who we really are.

Why would anyone even insult animals?

An animal eats because it’s hungry. They don't kill for sport or find joy in cruelty, they don't trash their environment, and they don't know what hate is. They aren't petty, and they won't hurt anyone just because they're having a bad day or because some astrological alignment is off.

The animal kingdom lives in a state of harmony that humans will never achieve—and honestly, never have. Humans are so pathetic that we've managed to convince ourselves our hearts are massive and noble, even though they're really just made of flawed, messy matter. It's just that nobody wants to face that reality.
John Jones3 John Jones3 Member
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#17 ·
Hannah Diaz said:Just some food for thought, I guess...

1. They turn their backs on this worldly life for the sake of Almighty Allah,
2. Their virtues pretty much outweigh any flaws they might have,
3. They lean entirely on God, pouring all their energy and effort into being obedient to Him,
4. Everything they think about is centered on the afterlife,
5. Since they’ve found salvation themselves, they act as intermediaries through whose intercession others find peace,
6. In everything they do, they rely on their Lord,
7. They’re constantly chasing after God's pleasure and love,
8. They steer clear of both major and minor sins,
9. They’re always first when it comes to prayer and striving on the path of faith,
10. They’re too busy worrying about their own shortcomings to bother judging anyone else's flaws, and...
11. Based on the good news in the Quran and Hadith, they’ll enter Paradise without having to face judgment,
12. They’ll receive their book of deeds in their right hand,
13. They are true scholars,
14. Their inner selves are far more beautiful than their outward appearance,
15. Their tongues affirm the oneness of Almighty Allah, their bodies submit to Him, and their hearts are completely sincere,
16. They study the Quran and live strictly by its teachings,
17. They fight the good fight on God's path,
18. They have ascended to the highest spiritual stations,
19. They’ve fully aligned their will with God's will!
20. They’re usually the first to enter the mosque and the last to leave,
21. When they’re owed something, they accept it, but when asked for help, they give generously... and when they judge the world, it’s almost like they’re judging themselves,
22. They never lose sight of God and are constantly in remembrance of Him,
23. They experience profound spiritual states,
24. They actually find sweetness even in the midst of trials,
25. If they aren't given anything from this world, they remain grateful; if something comes their way, they give it away,
26. They don't depend on anything or anyone, because they are truly with their Lord!

So these are supposed to be the "chosen ones"? The ones rushing into jihad?

If you look at history—specifically the Inquisition or the Crusades—that’s when you saw the most saints and spiritual leaders. I doubt Muslims will ever outdo the Christians of that era.
Hannah Diaz Hannah Diaz Member
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#18 ·
John Jones3 said:So these are supposed to be the "chosen ones"? The ones rushing into jihad?

If you look at history—specifically the Inquisition or the Crusades—that’s when you saw the most saints and spiritual leaders. I doubt Muslims will ever outdo the Christians of that era.

Look, jihad is a pretty broad concept, but you really ought to know that... even standing up for the underdog counts as jihad... that's how it works. I guess your perspective on it is a little narrow, but whatever... we all make mistakes, right? So, maybe just give some thought to what jihad actually means.😉
Hannah Diaz Hannah Diaz Member
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wearyhawk83 said:Why would anyone even insult animals?

An animal eats because it’s hungry. They don't kill for sport or find joy in cruelty, they don't trash their environment, and they don't know what hate is. They aren't petty, and they won't hurt anyone just because they're having a bad day or because some astrological alignment is off.

The animal kingdom lives in a state of harmony that humans will never achieve—and honestly, never have. Humans are so pathetic that we've managed to convince ourselves our hearts are massive and noble, even though they're really just made of flawed, messy matter. It's just that nobody wants to face that reality.

wearyhawk83, why do you always jump straight to the negative? Who's doing the insulting? I was just laying out the facts... the ones that actually exist, even if we try to hide them... I get what you're getting at, and honestly, that's exactly my point... we're talking about the same thing.😉

Being human isn't easy... and yeah, maybe we are pretty pathetic.
rustygull2 rustygull2 Newcomer
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#20 ·
" I guess God's saints don't really have anything to fear or even bother grieving about... " Bible

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