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When you stare too long into the abyss, the abyss stares back into you

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Participants electrictrucker18Brenda Cook4wearyowl29Lawrence Patel9dustyskipper3Anthony Perez9Edward Fisher86wearyhawk83Paul Jones7Ryan Wilson2Hannah Nelson4Sandra Morgan2Adam Ross6Mark Torres14Susan Price30briskraven28Jeremy Brooks6Mark RamirezThomas Booth5Andrew Fowler46Jeremy Alvarez5Laura Rivera3jademarlin26Gregory Jackson …
jademarlin26 jademarlin26 Active Member
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#61 ·
Mark Torres14 said:Almost everything living out there is specialized in some way. Elephants have trunks, eagles have sharp vision, storks have specific beaks... you get the idea. Humans aren't specialized for anything. So, isn't specialization actually just a retreat back to being animals?🤷
Then how did that essence lead to the division of labor, specialization, and civilization? I probably haven't quite grasped your definition of specialization, which is why we're talking past each other.

Hope that clears things up.🙂
As Nietzsche writes in Thus Spoke Zarathustra:

"We have invented happiness," say the last men, and they blink their eyes... From time to time a little poison: that makes for pleasant dreams. And at last, a lot of poison, so that dying is easy. There is still work to do, for work is play. But watch out that you don't wear yourself out from all the playing.

If one isn't specialized for anything, then we aren't actually discussing specialization; furthermore, regarding humans, there is no "regression" to any animalistic state. I assume you aren't suggesting a return to some fetal stage based on vague biological similarities.

The combination of the brain and the hand compensates for most animal specializations (or at least provides the necessary utility since they lack alternatives). A human doesn't require a trunk or a long beak to reach something, much less eagle-like vision to see into the distance. We simply use what we have, and if we lack something, we buy it. 😉
jademarlin26 jademarlin26 Active Member
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#62 ·
Thomas Booth5 said:Brenda Cook4 said:
I guess I’m just thinking about servantes. Maybe it's nothing, but they've been on my mind lately. Just sort of... there. Anyway. [User] says:
Almost everything alive out there seems to have some kind of niche specialty. An elephant’s got its trunk, eagles have that killer eyesight, storks have their beaks... you get the idea. But humans? We aren't really specialized for anything specific. So, I guess you have to wonder—is this whole specialization thing just a way of circling back to those basic animal instincts? Maybe.🤷
Good point. I’ve actually been thinking about specialization lately myself, and I keep landing on the same conclusion. I was looking at it from a bit more of a big-picture angle, I guess, but at its core, human specialization is really just about focusing on one specific task. That part isn't even the issue, it's more like... Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like people try to claim they can do everything when they're really just leaning on one specific skill they happen to be good at. Like, you're calling yourself a jack-of-all-trades, but you're actually just specialized in one niche area of your work. I guess that's how it works, though.
It’s like when you tie yourself down to something so narrow and specific... I don't know, maybe it just ends up stifling everything else you're actually capable of. It kind of stunts all your other skills, I guess.

The world today feels like one massive, non-stop demand for specialization. And honestly? That trend isn't slowing down anytime soon. I guess it makes sense for work and everything else, really. But maybe we should apply that same kind of depth to our own lives too—to how we actually connect with ourselves and the world around us. It just feels right.

Identifying with anything at all—whether it is specific or broad—can lead to the atrophy of one's remaining capabilities.
Brenda Cook4 Brenda Cook4 Regular
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#63 ·
Thomas Booth5 said:To put it simply, humans are evolutionarily—and ultimately humanistically—built to be generalists.

...at least, that's the little bit of wisdom we've been granted...
Mark Torres14 Mark Torres14 Regular
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#64 ·
Thomas Booth5 said:To put it simply, humans are evolutionarily—and ultimately humanistically—built to be generalists.

Spot on. 👍That’s exactly how I’d answer Vivian and jademarlin26.
neonscout5 neonscout5 Member
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#65 ·
Staring into the abyss at the exact moment consciousness fades... both the observer and the observed simply vanish. They merge into one.
hiddensailor92 hiddensailor92 Newcomer
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#66 ·
Quincy Adams:
The setting remains unchanged. No context was provided to rewrite. hiddensailor92 says:
Back to my friend. How can he overcome temptation?😛
🤔 It seems to me this concerns you rather than your friend. 😁

electrictrucker18 said:Or, I don't know, maybe they could just take a page out of Oscar Wilde's book instead?😁

It is as if you are waiting for someone to give you the green light just so you can throw yourself into that temptation.

neonscout5 said:Staring into the abyss at the exact moment consciousness fades... both the observer and the observed simply vanish. They merge into one.

Excellent. 👍

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