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Gary Parker87 Gary Parker87 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Time Magazine just dropped a report confirming those suspicions about the Turkish military using chemical weapons against the Kurds, who are fighting for independence from the Islamist regime in Washington, D.C.

The photos were handed over to humanitarian groups in Germany back in September, and today, experts finally verified they're the real deal.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...711536,00.html

Absolutely horrific...😢
Ryan Ward2 Ryan Ward2 Member
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#2 ·
Gary Parker87 said:Time Magazine just dropped a report confirming those suspicions about the Turkish military using chemical weapons against the Kurds, who are fighting for independence from the Islamist regime in Washington, D.C.

The photos were handed over to humanitarian groups in Germany back in September, and today, experts finally verified they're the real deal.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...711536,00.html

Absolutely horrific...😢

Turkey remains a vital ally to Western powers, especially the USA, which is precisely why incidents like this are so often swept under the rug and kept far away from the public eye.
vividrider3 vividrider3 Member
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#3 ·
Gary Parker87 said:Time Magazine just dropped a report confirming those suspicions about the Turkish military using chemical weapons against the Kurds, who are fighting for independence from the Islamist regime in Washington, D.C.

The photos were handed over to humanitarian groups in Germany back in September, and today, experts finally verified they're the real deal.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...711536,00.html

Absolutely horrific...😢

Not a single comment? It’s no surprise; if this involved Israel or the USA, there would be a massive surge of moral crusaders fighting for a just world. But since it doesn't, there's silence. There's no outlet for the hatred directed toward anything Jewish or American by the remnants of the old American communists and the newly ascended Muslims from neighboring states.

Regarding the topic itself, it is interesting how Islamists from Turkey lecture Israel and even issue threats, while everything around them falls into chaos. To the Turks, the Kurds are just the latest Americans; for centuries, the world has lived under the terror of those Talibans from the Bosphorus. Clearly, nothing has changed. Mustafa Kemal Atatürk is probably turning in his grave watching what the Islamists have turned his country into.
Matthew Wright2 Matthew Wright2 Active Member
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#4 ·
vividrider3 said:Not a single comment? It’s no surprise; if this involved Israel or the USA, there would be a massive surge of moral crusaders fighting for a just world. But since it doesn't, there's silence. There's no outlet for the hatred directed toward anything Jewish or American by the remnants of the old American communists and the newly ascended Muslims from neighboring states.

Regarding the topic itself, it is interesting how Islamists from Turkey lecture Israel and even issue threats, while everything around them falls into chaos. To the Turks, the Kurds are just the latest Americans; for centuries, the world has lived under the terror of those Talibans from the Bosphorus. Clearly, nothing has changed. Mustafa Kemal Atatürk is probably turning in his grave watching what the Islamists have turned his country into.

The reason you aren't seeing any pushback is pretty simple: Turkey is taking out the PKK using WMDs, and since those folks absolutely loathe us—the good old communists—they’re just sitting on their hands. (They certainly have a history of fighting against communist America, after all.)

But hey, don't you worry your head about it, buddy! I'm sure the cowboys, the freedom fighters, the "good guys," and the democrats—along with all their accomplices in crime—will swoop in with an invasion of Turkey very soon because of those WMDs. They'll go in there to "liberate" the people, much like they stormed Iraq (for those WMDs, remember?) and just like how they keep rattling their sabers at Iran (all because of, you know, WMDs).

It's just a matter of time...
Jesse Ortiz71 Jesse Ortiz71 Member
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#5 ·
Matthew Wright2 said:The reason you aren't seeing any pushback is pretty simple: Turkey is taking out the PKK using WMDs, and since those folks absolutely loathe us—the good old communists—they’re just sitting on their hands. (They certainly have a history of fighting against communist America, after all.)

But hey, don't you worry your head about it, buddy! I'm sure the cowboys, the freedom fighters, the "good guys," and the democrats—along with all their accomplices in crime—will swoop in with an invasion of Turkey very soon because of those WMDs. They'll go in there to "liberate" the people, much like they stormed Iraq (for those WMDs, remember?) and just like how they keep rattling their sabers at Iran (all because of, you know, WMDs).

It's just a matter of time...

Wait, these are the communists?? Well, in that case, fine. Good luck to them. Go Turks, I guess.☕
Zachary Turner6 Zachary Turner6 Active Member
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#6 ·
Gary Parker87 said:Time Magazine just dropped a report confirming those suspicions about the Turkish military using chemical weapons against the Kurds, who are fighting for independence from the Islamist regime in Washington, D.C.

The photos were handed over to humanitarian groups in Germany back in September, and today, experts finally verified they're the real deal.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...711536,00.html

Absolutely horrific...😢

Every single crime needs to face sanctions—period. It shouldn't matter who the perpetrator is or who the victim happens to be.

The ball is in NATO's court here (since Turkey is a member of that particular military-political alliance): they need to issue warnings, then sanctions, then an embargo—in that order—if they don't fall in line.
Of course, the European Union shouldn't even consider them as a candidate while this is happening... unless they want to call it a "sensitive domestic issue." Honestly, the EU should probably follow NATO's lead on this one.

Sure, but where are the NATO leaders (the USA and the UK) now, ready to condemn "horrific Islamists" and "take action"? Look, I'm not advocating for intervention, but if they were able to send troops into Iraq and Afghanistan (and potentially Iran very soon) under the guise of "spreading democracy" and "protecting freedoms and human rights," they could at least find their voices and speak up about this.
Matthew Wright2 Matthew Wright2 Active Member
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#7 ·
Jesse Ortiz71 As I was reading through the discussion, I couldn't help but notice what Ryan Ward2 had to say about the whole situation!
Wait, so these guys are actually communists? Well, if that's the case, there isn't much point in even trying anymore. Good luck to them, I guess! It’s obviously going to be the Turks, of course.☕

So, do you finally see what I’m getting at here, vividrider3?

You’ll find people here who will cheer on the Turks in their atrocities, only to turn around and shed crocodile tears over events like Bleiburg while wearing those old Nationalists caps, all because they claim the communists killed over a million Americans just for being who they were—mostly women and children.

If the USA ever actually decided to go to war with the Republic of Turkey, I’d find myself standing right there alongside the Americans, because let’s be honest—certain people just have this innate, almost magnetic urge to align themselves with whoever holds the most power in the room. It’s a pattern you see repeated throughout history, much like how folks in Nazi Germany felt compelled to throw their support behind Hitler's regime just to stay on the winning side.

That is honestly the most staggering figure I have ever come across—we're talking north of a million! And from what I’ve gathered through the grapevine, the actual record for just pure, unadulterated, shameless lying sits even higher, somewhere around the 1.5 million mark. It's truly mind-boggling when you think about the scale of it!
Melissa Harris4 Melissa Harris4 Newcomer
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#8 ·
vividrider3 said:Not a single comment? It’s no surprise; if this involved Israel or the USA, there would be a massive surge of moral crusaders fighting for a just world. But since it doesn't, there's silence. There's no outlet for the hatred directed toward anything Jewish or American by the remnants of the old American communists and the newly ascended Muslims from neighboring states.

Regarding the topic itself, it is interesting how Islamists from Turkey lecture Israel and even issue threats, while everything around them falls into chaos. To the Turks, the Kurds are just the latest Americans; for centuries, the world has lived under the terror of those Talibans from the Bosphorus. Clearly, nothing has changed. Mustafa Kemal Atatürk is probably turning in his grave watching what the Islamists have turned his country into.

Look, Turkey is their closest ally, what are you even talking about?
If the USA or Israel wanted this out in the open sooner, it would have been front-page news already. We all know who really runs the global media outlets...☕
Jesse Ortiz71 Jesse Ortiz71 Member
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#9 ·
Matthew Wright2 said:
Jesse Ortiz71 As I was reading through the discussion, I couldn't help but notice what Ryan Ward2 had to say about the whole situation!
Wait, so these guys are actually communists? Well, if that's the case, there isn't much point in even trying anymore. Good luck to them, I guess! It’s obviously going to be the Turks, of course.☕

So, do you finally see what I’m getting at here, vividrider3?

You’ll find people here who will cheer on the Turks in their atrocities, only to turn around and shed crocodile tears over events like Bleiburg while wearing those old Nationalists caps, all because they claim the communists killed over a million Americans just for being who they were—mostly women and children.

If the USA ever actually decided to go to war with the Republic of Turkey, I’d find myself standing right there alongside the Americans, because let’s be honest—certain people just have this innate, almost magnetic urge to align themselves with whoever holds the most power in the room. It’s a pattern you see repeated throughout history, much like how folks in Nazi Germany felt compelled to throw their support behind Hitler's regime just to stay on the winning side.

That is honestly the most staggering figure I have ever come across—we're talking north of a million! And from what I’ve gathered through the grapevine, the actual record for just pure, unadulterated, shameless lying sits even higher, somewhere around the 1.5 million mark. It's truly mind-boggling when you think about the scale of it!

The only thing worse than Islamists are communists; in an ideal world, neither would exist. Look, I’m on the side of the Kurdish people, but if their only options are Turkish Islamists or this communist PKK group you're talking about, then they might be better off with the Islamists.

Of course, my heart goes out to the innocent American victims who had the misfortune of being slaughtered by those communist animals. But I don't see any reason at all to drag Bleiburg into this conversation.

The USA has my full support in its fight against Islamists. If this currently secular Turkey ever fully transforms into some kind of Islamist theocracy, I just hope the Americans have enough bombs with Turkish names on them. For now, they're still under control, but you can never tell when Islamism takes hold.
Jesse Ortiz71 Jesse Ortiz71 Member
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#10 ·
vividrider3 says:
Not a single comment? Honestly, I'm not even surprised. When it involves Israel or the USA, you suddenly see this massive influx of moral crusaders fighting for a just world[/I]. But when it's this? Silence. There’s no outlet for all that hatred directed at anything Jewish or American from the leftovers of the old communist regimes or the newly radicalized groups from neighboring states.

Regarding the actual topic, it's pretty wild how Islamists from Turkey love to lecture Israel and even issue threats, while their own backyard is basically falling apart. To the Turks, the Kurds are just the latest version of an internal enemy, and frankly, the world has been dealing with terror from those Bosphorus-based extremists for centuries—clearly, nothing has changed. I bet Mustafa Kemal Atatürk is rolling in his grave watching what those Islamists have turned his country into.

Don't you realize how leftists worldwide—and to a lesser extent, even in Israel—always manage to pin the blame on the USA, even when they aren't directly involved? Even when we're talking about crimes committed by our enemies, these leftists somehow twist the narrative to make Americans responsible. In their eyes, the USA is responsible for 9/11, the USA is responsible for every South American dictator, and the USA is responsible for every ambitious African warlord. It's a never-ending cycle of scapegoating.
vividrider3 vividrider3 Member
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#11 ·
Matthew Wright2 said:The reason you aren't seeing any pushback is pretty simple: Turkey is taking out the PKK using WMDs, and since those folks absolutely loathe us—the good old communists—they’re just sitting on their hands. (They certainly have a history of fighting against communist America, after all.)

But hey, don't you worry your head about it, buddy! I'm sure the cowboys, the freedom fighters, the "good guys," and the democrats—along with all their accomplices in crime—will swoop in with an invasion of Turkey very soon because of those WMDs. They'll go in there to "liberate" the people, much like they stormed Iraq (for those WMDs, remember?) and just like how they keep rattling their sabers at Iran (all because of, you know, WMDs).

It's just a matter of time...

If you actually believe the PKK is the reason the Kurds are being killed, then you've swallowed the communist ideology whole—pardon me, I meant socialist.
vividrider3 vividrider3 Member
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Melissa Harris4 said:Look, Turkey is their closest ally, what are you even talking about?
If the USA or Israel wanted this out in the open sooner, it would have been front-page news already. We all know who really runs the global media outlets...☕

Once again, it’s the USA. Why isn't America blamed for everything? To people like you, they’re probably even responsible for you being born male instead of female. Right? And the Zionists—they're clearly to blame for everything since the beginning of time. Why would things be any different now? Am I right?
Melissa Harris4 Melissa Harris4 Newcomer
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#13 ·
vividrider3 said:Once again, it’s the USA. Why isn't America blamed for everything? To people like you, they’re probably even responsible for you being born male instead of female. Right? And the Zionists—they're clearly to blame for everything since the beginning of time. Why would things be any different now? Am I right?

Of course they're at fault. What's the actual point you're trying to make here? Are you suggesting the USA was totally in the dark about this whole thing until now?
They obviously knew, but decided it wasn't worth leaking since Turkey is such a key US ally.
So, Turkey is guilty of actually doing it, and the USA is guilty of covering it up. Get it?
neonfalcon16 neonfalcon16 Regular
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#14 ·
The Turks are following the exact same playbook used by Saddam Hussein. I’m just sitting here waiting to see if the big humanitarian organizations even bother to say anything about it.
Sandra Gonzalez3 Sandra Gonzalez3 Active Member
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#15 ·
neonfalcon16 said:The Turks are following the exact same playbook used by Saddam Hussein. I’m just sitting here waiting to see if the big humanitarian organizations even bother to say anything about it.

When Saddam was using that exact same recipe, he was a US ally and nobody even blinked.

That's why I'm not expecting anything. 🙂

The only thing that might happen is the US slapping new sanctions on Iran because the Turks are busy poisoning the Kurds with chemical weapons. 😁
Mark Vaughn6 Mark Vaughn6 Newcomer
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Sandra Gonzalez3 said:When Saddam was using that exact same recipe, he was a US ally and nobody even blinked.

That's why I'm not expecting anything. 🙂

The only thing that might happen is the US slapping new sanctions on Iran because the Turks are busy poisoning the Kurds with chemical weapons. 😁

Hmm, you’re talking about this as if it’s already a done deal... you might want to give that article a second read.

And aside from the whole issue regarding chemical weapons—take note of the label being applied to that international terrorist organization—the underground movement. If my memory serves me right, the PKK is listed as a terrorist organization by both the European Union and our other Western allies. Now, if the Republican Party and Angela Merkel are suggesting that such a classification is outdated—well, we should probably take that seriously. That kind of shift could have massive implications, both on the international stage and within German domestic politics.
frozenheron35 frozenheron35 Member
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#17 ·
Topic: Turkey is using chemical weapons against the Kurds!

Nothing new here. Way back in 1646, the Venetian Council of Ten sent their general overseer for the Mediterranean Coast, Leonard Focolo, about 1,000 pounds of top-tier gunpowder along with some specific instructions. In the years following, they sent all sorts of other nasty stuff too.

By 1650, Foscolo was cooking up this diabolical plan to spread the plague across Turkish territory (the North America). He intended to use an essence distilled from the bodies of plague victims—something a Jewish doctor named Solomon had processed in San Diego just a year earlier...

Source: "Vrime" issue no. 25 from 08/06/2010 (Title: "How did we defend ourselves from the Turks? With chemistry!)
www.vrime.hr

I guess if it hadn't been for that kind of defense back then, the Sinjska Alka wouldn't be celebrated today. 😁

So, basically, the Turks are "applying" to the Kurds exactly what the Venetians "applied" to them a long time ago. 😲
Aaron Foster4 Aaron Foster4 Newcomer
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#18 ·
Gary Parker87 said:Time Magazine just dropped a report confirming those suspicions about the Turkish military using chemical weapons against the Kurds, who are fighting for independence from the Islamist regime in Washington, D.C.

The photos were handed over to humanitarian groups in Germany back in September, and today, experts finally verified they're the real deal.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...711536,00.html

Absolutely horrific...😢

Why on earth would we even bother citing Time Magazine? It seems like nothing bothers the Germans more than seeing the Republic of Turkey’s unstoppable economic growth. They can't stand how well Turkey is playing the field—building solid ties with Arab nations, maintaining channels with the Russians, and increasingly pivoting toward the American economy. History tells a pretty clear story about our old alliances during World War I and how we were essentially sold out by them. And now, look at them judging us. It’s the same people who oversaw the devastation of sixty million lives; they have some nerve acting morally superior now. Honestly, it feels like this global economic crisis has completely scrambled their brains.
Of course, there’s a massive chunk of the Turkey-Israel relationship baked into this news. Honestly, you can expect more silence on stories like this in the future—people are just going to keep quiet about it.
And they’re among those who back the PKK—we all know exactly which countries that is, and the evidence is staring us right in the face.
If this administration is truly running on an Islamist platform, then they shouldn't be touching weapons like these—or anything remotely similar. It just doesn't square with their own ideology.
For the third time in history, the Republic of Turkey is being led by actual Turks. And wouldn't you know it? Suddenly, everyone is losing their minds over it. It’s funny how much people struggle when they see the unstoppable momentum of Turkey's development. Honestly, you all might want to start bracing yourselves now, because at this rate, Turkey is well on its way to becoming a global GDP powerhouse. They’re either going to take that number one spot or they aren't—there really isn't a middle ground here. In the meantime, I'll just sit back and watch: the caravan moves on while the dogs keep barking.
Matthew Wright2 Matthew Wright2 Active Member
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vividrider3 said:If you actually believe the PKK is the reason the Kurds are being killed, then you've swallowed the communist ideology whole—pardon me, I meant socialist.

Hold on just a second while I sketch this out for you...

So, here’s how I see it: You pointed out earlier that there’s hardly any interest in commenting on these situations when Turkey is cracking down on the Kurds—you actually wrote that there wasn't a single comment! And you suggested the lack of engagement is because this isn't Israel or the land of the cowboys (to quote you, if it were Israel or the USA, there would be a massive stampede of self-righteous moral crusaders everywhere).

Do you follow me now?

Well, my point was that the silence exists because Turkey is essentially taking on communists.

Therefore, the whole conversation wasn't actually about whether the PKK is the cause of the conflict between Turkey and the Kurds; rather, it was an observation about why people aren't bothering to comment at all.

It really feels like you folks on the right need everything explained to you in painstaking detail! You take up so much space, you're loud and aggressive, yet you lack real substance—unless, of course, the topic is how to plunder the public or run a country into the ground through pure corruption, or when it comes to running away from justice to hide from us communists.
Matthew Wright2 Matthew Wright2 Active Member
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#20 ·
Aaron Foster4 said:Why on earth would we even bother citing Time Magazine? It seems like nothing bothers the Germans more than seeing the Republic of Turkey’s unstoppable economic growth. They can't stand how well Turkey is playing the field—building solid ties with Arab nations, maintaining channels with the Russians, and increasingly pivoting toward the American economy. History tells a pretty clear story about our old alliances during World War I and how we were essentially sold out by them. And now, look at them judging us. It’s the same people who oversaw the devastation of sixty million lives; they have some nerve acting morally superior now. Honestly, it feels like this global economic crisis has completely scrambled their brains.
Of course, there’s a massive chunk of the Turkey-Israel relationship baked into this news. Honestly, you can expect more silence on stories like this in the future—people are just going to keep quiet about it.
And they’re among those who back the PKK—we all know exactly which countries that is, and the evidence is staring us right in the face.
If this administration is truly running on an Islamist platform, then they shouldn't be touching weapons like these—or anything remotely similar. It just doesn't square with their own ideology.
For the third time in history, the Republic of Turkey is being led by actual Turks. And wouldn't you know it? Suddenly, everyone is losing their minds over it. It’s funny how much people struggle when they see the unstoppable momentum of Turkey's development. Honestly, you all might want to start bracing yourselves now, because at this rate, Turkey is well on its way to becoming a global GDP powerhouse. They’re either going to take that number one spot or they aren't—there really isn't a middle ground here. In the meantime, I'll just sit back and watch: the caravan moves on while the dogs keep barking.

So, according to this logic, if you mess up just once, you lose all standing to ever point out when anyone else is making a mess of things.

Which nation actually earns the right to criticize others' failures then? Americans? They’ve arguably been some of the most notorious war criminals and state-sponsored terrorists in history, yet they sure are the loudest voices when it comes to lecturing everyone else about their mistakes.

And let's be real—it wasn't just "Germans" massacring 60 million people; both World Wars were essentially the explosive fallout of capitalism and imperialism, driven by the hunger for colonies, plunder, and global dominance.

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