Lower cost of living or a higher salary?
Started by John Lee21 · · 👁 4 views · 22 replies
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Would you rather have lower prices or higher wages?
Both—but realistically, we'll just end up with lower wages and higher prices.🤣
#4 ·
Lower prices. I’m no Wall Street analyst, but I think it would jumpstart the economy. At the end of the day, any economy lives or dies by how fast cash actually moves through the system.
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Does anyone else remember when prices started climbing right as gas hit $3.25? Back when it dropped down to $7, you wouldn't have noticed a single thing changing at the grocery store. Now, premium gas is sitting under $2.75, yet I still don't see any actual relief—not even a 10% dip. All we get is some corporate PR talk about how retailers are just "waiting out the storm."
It’s honestly pathetic. A small bag of Kraft costs $8.75 here, but if you head over to a similar Target just down the road, it’s $7.25. Even cleaning supplies are way cheaper than they should be. Then you look at the Nestlé frozen veggies for soup at our local Kroger $3.75, while they go for $2.75 just a few blocks away.
It’s honestly pathetic. A small bag of Kraft costs $8.75 here, but if you head over to a similar Target just down the road, it’s $7.25. Even cleaning supplies are way cheaper than they should be. Then you look at the Nestlé frozen veggies for soup at our local Kroger $3.75, while they go for $2.75 just a few blocks away.
#6 ·
Lower prices, same old costs... if things actually shifted that way, we wouldn't be relying so heavily on imports.
#7 ·
I desire both lower prices and higher wages!
But fine, let us return to reality. It is supposedly argued that a three percent annual inflation rate is beneficial for the economy. If one were able, for instance, to earn six percent more in dollars annually, and three percent of that was accounted for by inflation, would that not be considered a positive outcome—provided that those additional dollars were reinvested into the economy, bolstered liquidity, accelerated the circulation of capital, or fueled production and so forth?
But fine, let us return to reality. It is supposedly argued that a three percent annual inflation rate is beneficial for the economy. If one were able, for instance, to earn six percent more in dollars annually, and three percent of that was accounted for by inflation, would that not be considered a positive outcome—provided that those additional dollars were reinvested into the economy, bolstered liquidity, accelerated the circulation of capital, or fueled production and so forth?
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Lisa Grant2 said:Does anyone else remember when prices started climbing right as gas hit $3.25? Back when it dropped down to $7, you wouldn't have noticed a single thing changing at the grocery store. Now, premium gas is sitting under $2.75, yet I still don't see any actual relief—not even a 10% dip. All we get is some corporate PR talk about how retailers are just "waiting out the storm."
It’s honestly pathetic. A small bag of Kraft costs $8.75 here, but if you head over to a similar Target just down the road, it’s $7.25. Even cleaning supplies are way cheaper than they should be. Then you look at the Nestlé frozen veggies for soup at our local Kroger $3.75, while they go for $2.75 just a few blocks away.
Oh, wouldn't it be grand if one could simply construct a pedal-powered submarine, dive into the Mississippi, and with just ten rotations of a pedal driving generators that power electric motors which then drive propellers, you'd find yourself on the opposite bank! And if one were able to smuggle through 1,000kg of frozen Coca-Cola vegetables every single day—obtaining them even cheaper through bulk purchases—imagine where one might end up! One wouldn't even have to bribe customs officials or deal with such trifles; one would finally be your own boss.
Americans, our future lies within the realm of science. Let us invest heavily in the development of small-scale submarines.
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Lisa Grant2 said:Does anyone else remember when prices started climbing right as gas hit $3.25? Back when it dropped down to $7, you wouldn't have noticed a single thing changing at the grocery store. Now, premium gas is sitting under $2.75, yet I still don't see any actual relief—not even a 10% dip. All we get is some corporate PR talk about how retailers are just "waiting out the storm."
It’s honestly pathetic. A small bag of Kraft costs $8.75 here, but if you head over to a similar Target just down the road, it’s $7.25. Even cleaning supplies are way cheaper than they should be. Then you look at the Nestlé frozen veggies for soup at our local Kroger $3.75, while they go for $2.75 just a few blocks away.
Energy probably accounts for maybe 10% of the final product's cost. Which means if energy prices drop by 20%, the end product might only get cheaper by, say, 2%—give or take. That is essentially what happened here; prices dipped slightly. Usually, the impact is even smaller because as energy costs climbed, industry and retail squeezed their own margins to compensate. Once energy prices fall, those margins are typically the first thing to be restored.
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Nicole Barrett76 said:Oh, wouldn't it be grand if one could simply construct a pedal-powered submarine, dive into the Mississippi, and with just ten rotations of a pedal driving generators that power electric motors which then drive propellers, you'd find yourself on the opposite bank! And if one were able to smuggle through 1,000kg of frozen Coca-Cola vegetables every single day—obtaining them even cheaper through bulk purchases—imagine where one might end up! One wouldn't even have to bribe customs officials or deal with such trifles; one would finally be your own boss.
Americans, our future lies within the realm of science. Let us invest heavily in the development of small-scale submarines.
There’s really no reason to smuggle stuff; the personal allowance for weekly shopping is plenty. Submarines? Sarcasm? I don't even know what you're talking about...☕
#11 ·
Come on, get a move on already. Our standards are already through the roof, yet we aren’t actually producing anything! What are we waiting for—2030???
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Andrew Booth29 said:Energy probably accounts for maybe 10% of the final product's cost. Which means if energy prices drop by 20%, the end product might only get cheaper by, say, 2%—give or take. That is essentially what happened here; prices dipped slightly. Usually, the impact is even smaller because as energy costs climbed, industry and retail squeezed their own margins to compensate. Once energy prices fall, those margins are typically the first thing to be restored.
I get that, I really do. I just think prices in America shot up unrealistically high, and now they're actually dropping. It's the same deal with the banks. When cash basically vanished and banks were lending to each other at crazy interest rates, it made sense that consumer loan rates spiked. But now? Liquidity is fine, LIBOR and EURIBOR are low, money is cheap... yet I haven't seen interest rates budge for us.
I guess you could say getting out of this crisis ultimately comes down to the consumer. It seems more opportunistic to stimulate things by lowering prices, since that actually encourages people to stabilize and start trusting the market again.
The truth is, wages are probably going to stay flat—maybe even drop—while prices keep climbing. Any real boost in spending around here would likely only happen if banks finally dropped interest rates back down to where they were before the "crisis."
#13 ·
We’re looking at higher prices, shrinking paychecks, fewer worker protections, and more people stuck without jobs. I guess that’s the version of "prosperity" the Republican Party has been preaching to us for years. 😂 😂 😂
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Lisa Grant2 said:I get that, I really do. I just think prices in America shot up unrealistically high, and now they're actually dropping. It's the same deal with the banks. When cash basically vanished and banks were lending to each other at crazy interest rates, it made sense that consumer loan rates spiked. But now? Liquidity is fine, LIBOR and EURIBOR are low, money is cheap... yet I haven't seen interest rates budge for us.
I guess you could say getting out of this crisis ultimately comes down to the consumer. It seems more opportunistic to stimulate things by lowering prices, since that actually encourages people to stabilize and start trusting the market again.
The truth is, wages are probably going to stay flat—maybe even drop—while prices keep climbing. Any real boost in spending around here would likely only happen if banks finally dropped interest rates back down to where they were before the "crisis."
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mellowangler59 said:We’re looking at higher prices, shrinking paychecks, fewer worker protections, and more people stuck without jobs. I guess that’s the version of "prosperity" the Republican Party has been preaching to us for years. 😂 😂 😂
That's what I said—stop repeating yourself like a parrot.
#16 ·
Look, my two cents: you can throw as much money at a salary as you want, but it doesn't change the math—you're always going to find someone willing to undercut you, whether it's some local outfit or a massive firm overseas.
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Timothy Castillo6 said:Look, my two cents: you can throw as much money at a salary as you want, but it doesn't change the math—you're always going to find someone willing to undercut you, whether it's some local outfit or a massive firm overseas.
It works the other way too—lower costs often lead to better pay overseas.🤷
#20 ·
It’s really just two sides of the same coin—whether you get a raise or the price of groceries at Kroger drops, the end result is the same: your real income goes up because your actual purchasing power increases. I guess what the author was trying to drive at with this whole topic was 🤷
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