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Lower cost of living or a higher salary?

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Participants John Lee21steeleagle70Richard Lee43jadetinker85Lisa Grant2Henry Morris3Nicole Barrett76Andrew Booth29Sarah Newman2mellowangler59Timothy Castillo6Rachel GarciaJames Hayes6Chris Chase5Eric Perez9George Morgan3Raymond Smith23
John Lee21 John Lee21 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Could you elaborate?
steeleagle70 steeleagle70 Active Member
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joined May 2012
#2 ·
Higher paychecks are cool, but deflation? That's a hard pass 🙂
Richard Lee43 Richard Lee43 Active Member
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joined Oct 2009
#3 ·
Would you rather have lower prices or higher wages?

Both—but realistically, we'll just end up with lower wages and higher prices.🤣
jadetinker85 jadetinker85 Regular
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#4 ·
Lower prices. I’m no Wall Street analyst, but I think it would jumpstart the economy. At the end of the day, any economy lives or dies by how fast cash actually moves through the system.
Lisa Grant2 Lisa Grant2 Newcomer
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Does anyone else remember when prices started climbing right as gas hit $3.25? Back when it dropped down to $7, you wouldn't have noticed a single thing changing at the grocery store. Now, premium gas is sitting under $2.75, yet I still don't see any actual relief—not even a 10% dip. All we get is some corporate PR talk about how retailers are just "waiting out the storm."

It’s honestly pathetic. A small bag of Kraft costs $8.75 here, but if you head over to a similar Target just down the road, it’s $7.25. Even cleaning supplies are way cheaper than they should be. Then you look at the Nestlé frozen veggies for soup at our local Kroger $3.75, while they go for $2.75 just a few blocks away.
Henry Morris3 Henry Morris3 Active Member
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joined Jan 2012
#6 ·
Lower prices, same old costs... if things actually shifted that way, we wouldn't be relying so heavily on imports.
Nicole Barrett76 Nicole Barrett76 Regular
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joined Sep 2009
#7 ·
I desire both lower prices and higher wages!

But fine, let us return to reality. It is supposedly argued that a three percent annual inflation rate is beneficial for the economy. If one were able, for instance, to earn six percent more in dollars annually, and three percent of that was accounted for by inflation, would that not be considered a positive outcome—provided that those additional dollars were reinvested into the economy, bolstered liquidity, accelerated the circulation of capital, or fueled production and so forth?
Nicole Barrett76 Nicole Barrett76 Regular
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Lisa Grant2 said:Does anyone else remember when prices started climbing right as gas hit $3.25? Back when it dropped down to $7, you wouldn't have noticed a single thing changing at the grocery store. Now, premium gas is sitting under $2.75, yet I still don't see any actual relief—not even a 10% dip. All we get is some corporate PR talk about how retailers are just "waiting out the storm."

It’s honestly pathetic. A small bag of Kraft costs $8.75 here, but if you head over to a similar Target just down the road, it’s $7.25. Even cleaning supplies are way cheaper than they should be. Then you look at the Nestlé frozen veggies for soup at our local Kroger $3.75, while they go for $2.75 just a few blocks away.

Oh, wouldn't it be grand if one could simply construct a pedal-powered submarine, dive into the Mississippi, and with just ten rotations of a pedal driving generators that power electric motors which then drive propellers, you'd find yourself on the opposite bank! And if one were able to smuggle through 1,000kg of frozen Coca-Cola vegetables every single day—obtaining them even cheaper through bulk purchases—imagine where one might end up! One wouldn't even have to bribe customs officials or deal with such trifles; one would finally be your own boss.

Americans, our future lies within the realm of science. Let us invest heavily in the development of small-scale submarines.
Andrew Booth29 Andrew Booth29 Regular
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joined Mar 2012
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Lisa Grant2 said:Does anyone else remember when prices started climbing right as gas hit $3.25? Back when it dropped down to $7, you wouldn't have noticed a single thing changing at the grocery store. Now, premium gas is sitting under $2.75, yet I still don't see any actual relief—not even a 10% dip. All we get is some corporate PR talk about how retailers are just "waiting out the storm."

It’s honestly pathetic. A small bag of Kraft costs $8.75 here, but if you head over to a similar Target just down the road, it’s $7.25. Even cleaning supplies are way cheaper than they should be. Then you look at the Nestlé frozen veggies for soup at our local Kroger $3.75, while they go for $2.75 just a few blocks away.

Energy probably accounts for maybe 10% of the final product's cost. Which means if energy prices drop by 20%, the end product might only get cheaper by, say, 2%—give or take. That is essentially what happened here; prices dipped slightly. Usually, the impact is even smaller because as energy costs climbed, industry and retail squeezed their own margins to compensate. Once energy prices fall, those margins are typically the first thing to be restored.
Lisa Grant2 Lisa Grant2 Newcomer
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Nicole Barrett76 said:Oh, wouldn't it be grand if one could simply construct a pedal-powered submarine, dive into the Mississippi, and with just ten rotations of a pedal driving generators that power electric motors which then drive propellers, you'd find yourself on the opposite bank! And if one were able to smuggle through 1,000kg of frozen Coca-Cola vegetables every single day—obtaining them even cheaper through bulk purchases—imagine where one might end up! One wouldn't even have to bribe customs officials or deal with such trifles; one would finally be your own boss.

Americans, our future lies within the realm of science. Let us invest heavily in the development of small-scale submarines.

There’s really no reason to smuggle stuff; the personal allowance for weekly shopping is plenty. Submarines? Sarcasm? I don't even know what you're talking about...☕
Sarah Newman2 Sarah Newman2 Member
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joined May 2008
#11 ·
Come on, get a move on already. Our standards are already through the roof, yet we aren’t actually producing anything! What are we waiting for—2030???
Lisa Grant2 Lisa Grant2 Newcomer
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joined May 2005
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Andrew Booth29 said:Energy probably accounts for maybe 10% of the final product's cost. Which means if energy prices drop by 20%, the end product might only get cheaper by, say, 2%—give or take. That is essentially what happened here; prices dipped slightly. Usually, the impact is even smaller because as energy costs climbed, industry and retail squeezed their own margins to compensate. Once energy prices fall, those margins are typically the first thing to be restored.

I get that, I really do. I just think prices in America shot up unrealistically high, and now they're actually dropping. It's the same deal with the banks. When cash basically vanished and banks were lending to each other at crazy interest rates, it made sense that consumer loan rates spiked. But now? Liquidity is fine, LIBOR and EURIBOR are low, money is cheap... yet I haven't seen interest rates budge for us.

I guess you could say getting out of this crisis ultimately comes down to the consumer. It seems more opportunistic to stimulate things by lowering prices, since that actually encourages people to stabilize and start trusting the market again.

The truth is, wages are probably going to stay flat—maybe even drop—while prices keep climbing. Any real boost in spending around here would likely only happen if banks finally dropped interest rates back down to where they were before the "crisis."
mellowangler59 mellowangler59 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#13 ·
We’re looking at higher prices, shrinking paychecks, fewer worker protections, and more people stuck without jobs. I guess that’s the version of "prosperity" the Republican Party has been preaching to us for years. 😂 😂 😂
Andrew Booth29 Andrew Booth29 Regular
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joined Mar 2012
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Lisa Grant2 said:I get that, I really do. I just think prices in America shot up unrealistically high, and now they're actually dropping. It's the same deal with the banks. When cash basically vanished and banks were lending to each other at crazy interest rates, it made sense that consumer loan rates spiked. But now? Liquidity is fine, LIBOR and EURIBOR are low, money is cheap... yet I haven't seen interest rates budge for us.

I guess you could say getting out of this crisis ultimately comes down to the consumer. It seems more opportunistic to stimulate things by lowering prices, since that actually encourages people to stabilize and start trusting the market again.

The truth is, wages are probably going to stay flat—maybe even drop—while prices keep climbing. Any real boost in spending around here would likely only happen if banks finally dropped interest rates back down to where they were before the "crisis."

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Richard Lee43 Richard Lee43 Active Member
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joined Oct 2009
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mellowangler59 said:We’re looking at higher prices, shrinking paychecks, fewer worker protections, and more people stuck without jobs. I guess that’s the version of "prosperity" the Republican Party has been preaching to us for years. 😂 😂 😂

That's what I said—stop repeating yourself like a parrot.
Timothy Castillo6 Timothy Castillo6 Active Member
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joined Apr 2010
#16 ·
Look, my two cents: you can throw as much money at a salary as you want, but it doesn't change the math—you're always going to find someone willing to undercut you, whether it's some local outfit or a massive firm overseas.
Rachel Garcia Rachel Garcia Active Member
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joined Sep 2011
#17 ·
Higher wages. Lower grocery bills and living costs. Luxury isn't really my priority.
Richard Lee43 Richard Lee43 Active Member
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joined Oct 2009
#18 ·
Timothy Castillo6 said:Look, my two cents: you can throw as much money at a salary as you want, but it doesn't change the math—you're always going to find someone willing to undercut you, whether it's some local outfit or a massive firm overseas.

It works the other way too—lower costs often lead to better pay overseas.🤷
James Hayes6 James Hayes6 Member
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joined Jul 2014
#19 ·
I want higher paychecks and lower prices everywhere!!
Chris Chase5 Chris Chase5 Active Member
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joined Jul 2018
#20 ·
It’s really just two sides of the same coin—whether you get a raise or the price of groceries at Kroger drops, the end result is the same: your real income goes up because your actual purchasing power increases. I guess what the author was trying to drive at with this whole topic was 🤷
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