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Do you believe in angels?

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Anthony Perez9 Anthony Perez9 Regular
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#41 ·
The Christian Bible introduced the concept of angels—basically God’s messengers or errand boys. Actually, they show up in the Jewish Old Testament too. Later on, these stories got morphed into those airy, winged beings in white robes or chubby little kids, though the Bible does feature angels who look like pretty regular young guys (like in the story of Zechariah, where some young man—an angel—tells him his wife is pregnant by "God's will," even though old Zechariah is understandably skeptical...).

Archangel Raphael in the story of Tobias helps some guy get to a woman and takes down a demon that’s been killing her husbands right before they have sex:

Then the angel told him: "Take the fish, pull out its heart, liver, and gallbladder, and keep them safe because they make a great medicine."
The guiding angel
The angel said to the young man: ...you have an only daughter named Sarah. (12) I will see to it that she becomes your wife, since her inheritance belongs to you.

The angel gives advice on how to deal with demons:

The angel: "She will be your wife, and don't pay any mind to the demon, because she'll be yours tonight. When you enter the wedding chamber, take some frankincense ash and sprinkle a bit of the fish's heart and liver on it; once you burn the incense, the demon will catch the scent, flee, and never come back."

Or an angel blocks the road with a sword and a donkey starts speaking Hebrew:

When the donkey saw Yahweh's angel standing in the path with a drawn sword, it veered off the road and went through the field. Balaam lost it and started beating the donkey with a stick. (28) Then Yahweh opened the donkey's mouth and it spoke to Balaam: "What have I done to you that you've beaten me three times now?"
"Haven't I been your donkey that you've ridden all your life until today? Haven't I always behaved like this?"

Michael—the big boss; brother of Samael, whom he defeated
Gabriel— burned all the life out of Sodom and Gomorrah and told Mary she was pregnant via the Holy Spirit when she wondered how that was even possible
Raphael—check out the fairy tale/legend about Tobias
Uriel—the flaming angel guarding the entrance to the Garden of Eden so Adam and Eve can't get back in
Barachiel (Maltiel)—?
Jhudiel—carries a triple whip, carries out punishments
Selaphiel (Zadkiel)—stopped Abraham from sacrificing Isaac, since he was actually ready to kill his own son

Later, theology stepped in to systematize the angelic hierarchy:

The first Christian angelologist, the Areopagite, in his work "On the Celestial Hierarchy," divides angels into 3 ranks and 12 choirs:

1. Seraphim—fiery angels with six wings; according to the Areopagite, they "have no gender"
2. Cherubim—blue in color with four wings, tasked with spreading knowledge
3. Thrones—depicted as wheels upon which God's throne rests
4. Dominations—they carry a scepter and a crown or a sword, and wear armor, but their actual function isn't super clear
5. Virtues—usually shown holding a book, spreading virtues throughout the world
6. Powers—???
7. Principalities—call for courage and piety, often depicted in warrior gear or liturgical robes
8. Archangels—these evolved from specific instances in the Bible involving an angel or two.

Other traditions talk about various entities that are also assigned different traits. Muslims speak of Djinn. It makes you wonder what's actually hidden in there... and how much is just human interpretation shaped by our own desires and expectations versus what's actually reality.🤷
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#42 ·
Personally, I’ve always felt that angels don't just exist in a vacuum—they aren't some standalone things floating around without us. My take? They are independent psychic entities, sure, but they actually manifest in those higher dimensions because of the sheer existence of the human quantum brain. It's our own consciousness that gives rise to these autonomous psychic forces. Now, look—I could be completely wrong about that. I'm not claiming to have all the answers. But whatever the truth turns out to be, it needs actual proof. Or, at the very least, you should be able to feel it for yourself on a visceral level.
Even Sheldrake writes about this stuff—something he calls the physics of angels.
Brian Foster3 Brian Foster3 Active Member
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#43 ·
Angels aren't some winged little people floating around with personalities—that's just how people misinterpret things because they can't wrap their heads around the truth. They are actually spiritual laws that construct our entire reality, acting as the fundamental forces driving both this physical world and the spiritual realms alike. It’s all happening according to the blueprint and command of the creator, so you could really look at angels as the specific ways the creator differentiates His power into active forces within existence.

It reminds me of that old Kabbalistic saying: "There isn't a single blade of grass out there that doesn't have an angel hovering over it, striking it and commanding, 'Grow!'"
Paul Jones7 Paul Jones7 Active Member
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#44 ·
Brian Foster3 said:Angels aren't some winged little people floating around with personalities—that's just how people misinterpret things because they can't wrap their heads around the truth. They are actually spiritual laws that construct our entire reality, acting as the fundamental forces driving both this physical world and the spiritual realms alike. It’s all happening according to the blueprint and command of the creator, so you could really look at angels as the specific ways the creator differentiates His power into active forces within existence.

It reminds me of that old Kabbalistic saying: "There isn't a single blade of grass out there that doesn't have an angel hovering over it, striking it and commanding, 'Grow!'"

heh, but what about the people who actually have experiences with the spiritual realm?

man... all this Kabbalah stuff—I mean, it's fine, but you probably shouldn't believe every single thing you read.
Lisa Morales4 Lisa Morales4 Active Member
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#45 ·
Brian Foster3 said:Angels aren't some winged little people floating around with personalities—that's just how people misinterpret things because they can't wrap their heads around the truth. They are actually spiritual laws that construct our entire reality, acting as the fundamental forces driving both this physical world and the spiritual realms alike. It’s all happening according to the blueprint and command of the creator, so you could really look at angels as the specific ways the creator differentiates His power into active forces within existence.

It reminds me of that old Kabbalistic saying: "There isn't a single blade of grass out there that doesn't have an angel hovering over it, striking it and commanding, 'Grow!'"

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@Paul Jones7, Kabbalah is totally solid, in & out 🙂
Paul Jones7 Paul Jones7 Active Member
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#46 ·
I mean, honestly, you don't really need to take everything so literally. It’s just that classic trap—you know, that whole mindset of "this is my truth and only my truth, and nobody else gets it except me and my little circle of academic buddies."

Sound familiar? 😉
Brian Foster3 Brian Foster3 Active Member
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#47 ·
Paul Jones7 said:heh, but what about the people who actually have experiences with the spiritual realm?

man... all this Kabbalah stuff—I mean, it's fine, but you probably shouldn't believe every single thing you read.

What am I supposed to do with them? They'll actually get where I'm coming from.

Quincy:
man, these conspiracies... look, they might be onto something, but don't just swallow everything you read online.
And what exactly gives you the right to talk down to me like that?
Brian Foster3 Brian Foster3 Active Member
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#48 ·
Paul Jones7 said:I mean, honestly, you don't really need to take everything so literally. It’s just that classic trap—you know, that whole mindset of "this is my truth and only my truth, and nobody else gets it except me and my little circle of academic buddies."

Sound familiar? 😉

If I got a single dollar for every time someone peddled that tired old conspiracy theory about some secret cabal being the "only truth," I’d be sitting on a massive fortune by now! ☕

Alright, here we go again. Get ready, because I'm about to dive into another one of these. 🙂 People keep trying to tell me that Kabbalah isn't the "only truth," but honestly, they can just stop right there because, for me, it’s hands down the best way to understand everything! I’ve been thinking about this whole damn method lately, and honestly, it just feels like a complete mess that nobody wants to take responsibility for! It reminds me of that one time I tried to fix my own sink in Chicago and ended up flooding the entire kitchen because the instructions were absolute garbage—just pure, unadulterated chaos from start to finish. I can't believe I actually made it here on time! I am sick and tired of people acting like they can just bypass the proper channels whenever it suits them! You can't just go jumping straight to the top or making direct contact without following the protocol, because honestly, that's how you end up creating a total mess for everyone involved. It’s just the plain, unvarnished truth.
Paul Jones7 Paul Jones7 Active Member
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#49 ·
Brian Foster3 said:What am I supposed to do with them? They'll actually get where I'm coming from.

Quincy:
man, these conspiracies... look, they might be onto something, but don't just swallow everything you read online.
And what exactly gives you the right to talk down to me like that?

I mean, based on your absolute certainty that angels aren't real—unless you view them as some abstract force—it seems a bit off. Experiences from all over the place suggest there’s a spiritual plane of existence where these things are actual living beings.

Brian Foster3 said:If I got a single dollar for every time someone peddled that tired old conspiracy theory about some secret cabal being the "only truth," I’d be sitting on a massive fortune by now! ☕

Alright, here we go again. Get ready, because I'm about to dive into another one of these. 🙂 People keep trying to tell me that Kabbalah isn't the "only truth," but honestly, they can just stop right there because, for me, it’s hands down the best way to understand everything! I’ve been thinking about this whole damn method lately, and honestly, it just feels like a complete mess that nobody wants to take responsibility for! It reminds me of that one time I tried to fix my own sink in Chicago and ended up flooding the entire kitchen because the instructions were absolute garbage—just pure, unadulterated chaos from start to finish. I can't believe I actually made it here on time! I am sick and tired of people acting like they can just bypass the proper channels whenever it suits them! You can't just go jumping straight to the top or making direct contact without following the protocol, because honestly, that's how you end up creating a total mess for everyone involved. It’s just the plain, unvarnished truth.

The thing is, you won't find any living truth tucked away in dead letters or old scripts; you can only find life through something that's actually alive—I guess that's just common sense, really. And when it comes to connecting with the living (starting with your own self, anyway), there isn't some single, universally superior method. Plus, when you start claiming these "truths" about angels—which, honestly, experience tends to debunk—it starts feeling a bit like gatekeeping or being exclusionary. I don't think you're quite at the level where you can judge that yet.
Brian Foster3 Brian Foster3 Active Member
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#50 ·
Paul Jones7 said:I mean, based on your absolute certainty that angels aren't real—unless you view them as some abstract force—it seems a bit off. Experiences from all over the place suggest there’s a spiritual plane of existence where these things are actual living beings.

The thing is, you won't find any living truth tucked away in dead letters or old scripts; you can only find life through something that's actually alive—I guess that's just common sense, really. And when it comes to connecting with the living (starting with your own self, anyway), there isn't some single, universally superior method. Plus, when you start claiming these "truths" about angels—which, honestly, experience tends to debunk—it starts feeling a bit like gatekeeping or being exclusionary. I don't think you're quite at the level where you can judge that yet.

Who on earth said that this "force" isn't alive? Of course it acts on a spiritual level! And look, I already told you that it can even manifest in an anthropomorphic way for some people. It’s not like I ever claimed angels don't exist in the first place. You're seriously trying to put words in my mouth by implying these "forces" aren't living beings, which just tells me you're twisting my arguments to suit your own agenda—and honestly, you're doing a pretty clumsy job of it. 😍

Quincy:
You aren't going to find any kind of real truth just staring at some dead, dusty ink on a page; you have to actually go out and live if you want to find anything worth having, and honestly, that's something you really ought to wrap your head around.
Oh my god, here we go again with the wrong assumptions... honestly, it might have been a lot smarter if you’d actually bothered to ask me how I operate before charging in like a bull in a china shop. Why on earth do you assume you have even the slightest clue what I’m doing? When it comes to Kabbalah, from what I can see, you haven't got a single clue beyond those totally fabricated, twisted, and arbitrary theories you've cooked up. I find it incredibly bold of you to try and lecture me on what I should or shouldn't be doing based solely on that—especially regarding Kabbalah. By the way, all those "mystical beings" you think are just some vague nonsense were actually encountered firsthand by Kabbalists who recorded their true names, which are the very ones you're using now. I'm certain you didn't realize that...

Quincy:
Look, there’s no magic bullet or one-size-fits-all manual for actually connecting with the living world—and honestly, if you can't even figure out how to check in with your own damn self first, you're already lost.
Look, that’s just your personal take, not some universal truth that everyone's forced to swallow, so you can go ahead and keep that opinion all to yourself if you want!

Quincy:
When you start throwing around those "universal truths" that everyone knows are totally debunked by actual experience, you’re basically just being elitist and playing games. Honestly, you aren't even in a position to be making those kinds of judgments.
It’s not even an abuse of power, honestly!I can't even begin to deal with this nonsense right now because honestly, I am just completely over it!It’s just straight-up manipulation at this point! You haven't actually denied a single thing, let alone had the nerve to try and dismiss someone else's lived experience as some kind of lie—well, newsflash, those "alleged experiences" you're trying to brush off? That was me! He finally went and installed it! Look, I’m going to say this one more time because apparently, it didn't sink in the first time, and if you actually bothered to read what I wrote, you'd see I already laid it all out plain as day!

When people start preaching about "authenticity" or what's considered the "truth," I honestly think it’s all just subjective nonsense because everyone’s just going to judge things based on their own biased perspective, which is completely arbitrary and doesn't actually prove a damn thing. If you want something you can actually bank on, you have to rely on your own direct, firsthand experience—anything else is just guesswork. I honestly can't even begin to wrap my head around how people act when they think they have some specific, certain authority over a situation, because it’s just absolute madness! It’s all about the level of truth, isn't it? Honestly, people just toss facts around like they're nothing, and it drives me absolutely insane!

Look, if you’re one of those people who thinks spiritual beings are just little winged characters with cute personalities hovering around to protect you, then by all means, go right ahead—you’ve got a wide lane to drive in, and I’m not here to start a fight over your fairy tales. But let’s get one thing straight: I am talking about the specific angelic forces found in Kabbalah, and since my entire purpose on this forum has been to express a strictly Kabbalistic perspective, you can either read it or don't. If you don't like what I have to say, stop reading, but if you actually want to debate the real stuff, bring it on—I'd honestly love that. 😍

If you’re just looking to talk down to people or act like you're some kind of superior authority—which, let's be honest, includes all that condescending patronizing nonsense—then you better be ready for the exact same energy coming right back at you.
Paul Jones7 Paul Jones7 Active Member
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#51 ·
Brian Foster3 said:Who on earth said that this "force" isn't alive? Of course it acts on a spiritual level! And look, I already told you that it can even manifest in an anthropomorphic way for some people. It’s not like I ever claimed angels don't exist in the first place. You're seriously trying to put words in my mouth by implying these "forces" aren't living beings, which just tells me you're twisting my arguments to suit your own agenda—and honestly, you're doing a pretty clumsy job of it. 😍

Quincy:
You aren't going to find any kind of real truth just staring at some dead, dusty ink on a page; you have to actually go out and live if you want to find anything worth having, and honestly, that's something you really ought to wrap your head around.
Oh my god, here we go again with the wrong assumptions... honestly, it might have been a lot smarter if you’d actually bothered to ask me how I operate before charging in like a bull in a china shop. Why on earth do you assume you have even the slightest clue what I’m doing? When it comes to Kabbalah, from what I can see, you haven't got a single clue beyond those totally fabricated, twisted, and arbitrary theories you've cooked up. I find it incredibly bold of you to try and lecture me on what I should or shouldn't be doing based solely on that—especially regarding Kabbalah. By the way, all those "mystical beings" you think are just some vague nonsense were actually encountered firsthand by Kabbalists who recorded their true names, which are the very ones you're using now. I'm certain you didn't realize that...

Quincy:
Look, there’s no magic bullet or one-size-fits-all manual for actually connecting with the living world—and honestly, if you can't even figure out how to check in with your own damn self first, you're already lost.
Look, that’s just your personal take, not some universal truth that everyone's forced to swallow, so you can go ahead and keep that opinion all to yourself if you want!

Quincy:
When you start throwing around those "universal truths" that everyone knows are totally debunked by actual experience, you’re basically just being elitist and playing games. Honestly, you aren't even in a position to be making those kinds of judgments.
It’s not even an abuse of power, honestly!I can't even begin to deal with this nonsense right now because honestly, I am just completely over it!It’s just straight-up manipulation at this point! You haven't actually denied a single thing, let alone had the nerve to try and dismiss someone else's lived experience as some kind of lie—well, newsflash, those "alleged experiences" you're trying to brush off? That was me! He finally went and installed it! Look, I’m going to say this one more time because apparently, it didn't sink in the first time, and if you actually bothered to read what I wrote, you'd see I already laid it all out plain as day!

When people start preaching about "authenticity" or what's considered the "truth," I honestly think it’s all just subjective nonsense because everyone’s just going to judge things based on their own biased perspective, which is completely arbitrary and doesn't actually prove a damn thing. If you want something you can actually bank on, you have to rely on your own direct, firsthand experience—anything else is just guesswork. I honestly can't even begin to wrap my head around how people act when they think they have some specific, certain authority over a situation, because it’s just absolute madness! It’s all about the level of truth, isn't it? Honestly, people just toss facts around like they're nothing, and it drives me absolutely insane!

Look, if you’re one of those people who thinks spiritual beings are just little winged characters with cute personalities hovering around to protect you, then by all means, go right ahead—you’ve got a wide lane to drive in, and I’m not here to start a fight over your fairy tales. But let’s get one thing straight: I am talking about the specific angelic forces found in Kabbalah, and since my entire purpose on this forum has been to express a strictly Kabbalistic perspective, you can either read it or don't. If you don't like what I have to say, stop reading, but if you actually want to debate the real stuff, bring it on—I'd honestly love that. 😍

If you’re just looking to talk down to people or act like you're some kind of superior authority—which, let's be honest, includes all that condescending patronizing nonsense—then you better be ready for the exact same energy coming right back at you.

I’ve been following your posts for quite a while now, but honestly, there isn't much to dig into... you just don't have it, baby... and I’m not even talking about the Kabbalah, I mean just the way you put your thoughts together
Larry Wilson5 Larry Wilson5 Active Member
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#52 ·
If you could just imagine, even for a second, that you were an Angel, maybe you'd start asking better questions. Different ones. Maybe you'd actually understand things.
Like, why are we even here?
You have wings—two sets, though they aren't made of feathers, and you don't exactly flap them in the astral plane.
There are two energy centers between your shoulder blades where you can feel them.
And then there are the ones along the ribs. Those centers hold the intention to fly. It isn't some leftover evolutionary trait; they need to be awakened right here, on Earth. Again.
LSD might wake those centers up, but it'll probably just burn them out. Fry them.
Brian Foster3 Brian Foster3 Active Member
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#53 ·
Paul Jones7 said:I’ve been following your posts for quite a while now, but honestly, there isn't much to dig into... you just don't have it, baby... and I’m not even talking about the Kabbalah, I mean just the way you put your thoughts together

Since I've had enough time hanging out here to see exactly how you read things and what you're really after, everything checks out for me! 😍
Douglas Scott4 Douglas Scott4 Newcomer
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#54 ·
Nah, there’s just no proof for it. Why on earth would I believe in that, any more than I’d believe in God or that totally illogical Bible?☕
Dennis Moore4 Dennis Moore4 Member
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#55 ·
Yes, Angels are a force.
The real question is defining exactly what kind of force we're dealing with.
I don't think anyone needs to look much further than the sky to find the answer.
Even the Book of Revelation makes it pretty clear what they actually are...
Dennis Moore4 Dennis Moore4 Member
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#56 ·
Anthony Perez9 said:The Christian Bible introduced the concept of angels—basically God’s messengers or errand boys. Actually, they show up in the Jewish Old Testament too. Later on, these stories got morphed into those airy, winged beings in white robes or chubby little kids, though the Bible does feature angels who look like pretty regular young guys (like in the story of Zechariah, where some young man—an angel—tells him his wife is pregnant by "God's will," even though old Zechariah is understandably skeptical...).

Archangel Raphael in the story of Tobias helps some guy get to a woman and takes down a demon that’s been killing her husbands right before they have sex:

Then the angel told him: "Take the fish, pull out its heart, liver, and gallbladder, and keep them safe because they make a great medicine."
The guiding angel
The angel said to the young man: ...you have an only daughter named Sarah. (12) I will see to it that she becomes your wife, since her inheritance belongs to you.

The angel gives advice on how to deal with demons:

The angel: "She will be your wife, and don't pay any mind to the demon, because she'll be yours tonight. When you enter the wedding chamber, take some frankincense ash and sprinkle a bit of the fish's heart and liver on it; once you burn the incense, the demon will catch the scent, flee, and never come back."

Or an angel blocks the road with a sword and a donkey starts speaking Hebrew:

When the donkey saw Yahweh's angel standing in the path with a drawn sword, it veered off the road and went through the field. Balaam lost it and started beating the donkey with a stick. (28) Then Yahweh opened the donkey's mouth and it spoke to Balaam: "What have I done to you that you've beaten me three times now?"
"Haven't I been your donkey that you've ridden all your life until today? Haven't I always behaved like this?"

Michael—the big boss; brother of Samael, whom he defeated
Gabriel— burned all the life out of Sodom and Gomorrah and told Mary she was pregnant via the Holy Spirit when she wondered how that was even possible
Raphael—check out the fairy tale/legend about Tobias
Uriel—the flaming angel guarding the entrance to the Garden of Eden so Adam and Eve can't get back in
Barachiel (Maltiel)—?
Jhudiel—carries a triple whip, carries out punishments
Selaphiel (Zadkiel)—stopped Abraham from sacrificing Isaac, since he was actually ready to kill his own son

Later, theology stepped in to systematize the angelic hierarchy:

The first Christian angelologist, the Areopagite, in his work "On the Celestial Hierarchy," divides angels into 3 ranks and 12 choirs:

1. Seraphim—fiery angels with six wings; according to the Areopagite, they "have no gender"
2. Cherubim—blue in color with four wings, tasked with spreading knowledge
3. Thrones—depicted as wheels upon which God's throne rests
4. Dominations—they carry a scepter and a crown or a sword, and wear armor, but their actual function isn't super clear
5. Virtues—usually shown holding a book, spreading virtues throughout the world
6. Powers—???
7. Principalities—call for courage and piety, often depicted in warrior gear or liturgical robes
8. Archangels—these evolved from specific instances in the Bible involving an angel or two.

Other traditions talk about various entities that are also assigned different traits. Muslims speak of Djinn. It makes you wonder what's actually hidden in there... and how much is just human interpretation shaped by our own desires and expectations versus what's actually reality.🤷

If you want to understand, you need to follow the river back to its source.
The Bible is the mouth of the river, just like the Quran.
Larry Wilson5 Larry Wilson5 Active Member
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#57 ·
Dennis Moore4 said:Yes, Angels are a force.
The real question is defining exactly what kind of force we're dealing with.
I don't think anyone needs to look much further than the sky to find the answer.
Even the Book of Revelation makes it pretty clear what they actually are...

Why make that claim? That Angels are a force? Can you name anything that isn't a force? Or perhaps suggest another force besides them.
Is Lucifer also a force? If so, why aren't we considered conscious beings? Driven by that same force? What about the fallen Angels?
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#58 ·
Larry Wilson5 said:Why make that claim? That Angels are a force? Can you name anything that isn't a force? Or perhaps suggest another force besides them.
Is Lucifer also a force? If so, why aren't we considered conscious beings? Driven by that same force? What about the fallen Angels?

If you ever happen to encounter an Angel during one of your mystical experiences, here is what you should do.
Take a handful of raw rice in your hand. Then, put that Angel on the spot: ask them exactly how many grains are in your palm. If they give you the right number, then the Angel is real. If they miss the mark, then the Angel is just a figment of your own imagination. Same goes if they say nothing at all.
Once they answer, you can simply count the grains yourself to verify.😍

Now, about those fallen angels: basically, you have Lucifer, who got fed up with having to polish God’s shoes and make His bed every single day. Not to mention preparing lunch, ironing long silk robes, sweeping the celestial halls, and mowing the heavenly lawns. But it didn't stop there. Poor Lucifer also had to spend his entire day singing "We praise You, O God" at the top of his lungs. That's actually why Lucifer ended up with a raspy voice—something you can still hear today.
The poor guy was stuck doing this for eternity, and this was all before the Earth or mankind were even created. Personally, he would have much rather been playing ARCADE GAMES in the celestial palace, but Yahweh didn't leave him nearly enough free time for that...😍.😍 Honestly, I find myself wondering about Yahweh—why bother creating an arcade game when He knew exactly what Lucifer was passionate about? Why didn't He just give him a passion for making beds or polishing plates instead?😍
And don't think I'm joking around here: back in 1938, my father was 14 years old and was punished by having to chop wood for a local priest. He wasn't attending Sunday school. To be honest, he completely tricked that poor priest: the truth is, my father absolutely loved chopping wood.. As for the plate polishing thing: I once had a neighbor—a bit of a quirky fellow—whose wife had to hide the dishes after washing them. This man suffered from a total obsession with scrubbing plates. Every week, he’d toss a kitchen rag "to the devil" because he’d scrubbed the dishes so hard they practically vanished. If God could create people like that today, why wouldn't He have created a Lucifer with a similar obsession?
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#59 ·
Brian Foster3 said:If I got a single dollar for every time someone peddled that tired old conspiracy theory about some secret cabal being the "only truth," I’d be sitting on a massive fortune by now! ☕

Alright, here we go again. Get ready, because I'm about to dive into another one of these. 🙂 People keep trying to tell me that Kabbalah isn't the "only truth," but honestly, they can just stop right there because, for me, it’s hands down the best way to understand everything! I’ve been thinking about this whole damn method lately, and honestly, it just feels like a complete mess that nobody wants to take responsibility for! It reminds me of that one time I tried to fix my own sink in Chicago and ended up flooding the entire kitchen because the instructions were absolute garbage—just pure, unadulterated chaos from start to finish. I can't believe I actually made it here on time! I am sick and tired of people acting like they can just bypass the proper channels whenever it suits them! You can't just go jumping straight to the top or making direct contact without following the protocol, because honestly, that's how you end up creating a total mess for everyone involved. It’s just the plain, unvarnished truth.

The Kabbalah is solid, don't get me wrong. But there’s always something else out there that hits even harder. Especially for us guys:http://www.nytimes.com/article/wellness-lifestyle-connection
( though women can benefit too ). Personally, I haven't ventured down that specific path to find the "living truth" myself, but the method seems incredibly sound.
Even this guy (the President) had a mystical encounter with an Angel. And apparently, that Angel told him that through the union of the Penis and the Vagina, one can also attain the "Living Truth."
casualtiger2 casualtiger2 Regular
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#60 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:The Kabbalah is solid, don't get me wrong. But there’s always something else out there that hits even harder. Especially for us guys:http://www.nytimes.com/article/wellness-lifestyle-connection
( though women can benefit too ). Personally, I haven't ventured down that specific path to find the "living truth" myself, but the method seems incredibly sound.
Even this guy (the President) had a mystical encounter with an Angel. And apparently, that Angel told him that through the union of the Penis and the Vagina, one can also attain the "Living Truth."

I get the feeling you completely missed the point of what the author was getting at.
Regarding Komaja and Makaj.
I'm writing this from the perspective of someone who's known the "guy" for 24 years.

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