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hiddenstag hiddenstag NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
To be honest, I’m at a loss for how to handle my own rage. I’ve always been one of those people who, once I set my mind to something, I see it through to the end. If things don't go according to plan, my first instinct is usually to go off on someone. I’ve actually climbed quite high in my career, and I hold a pretty senior management position now. But what really gets under my skin—what I struggle with most—is seeing people half-ass their jobs or just totally slack off. It throws me completely out of whack, and I feel like I lose all control. There are moments where I just want to smash everything in sight, and it takes me a long time to finally settle down.
I just don't know how to find some calm.
placidorca16 placidorca16 Active Member
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joined Jan 2021
#2 ·
Try some self-control—but if that’s proving too much to handle, maybe it's time to call in a professional.☕
Lisa Hernandez3 Lisa Hernandez3 Active Member
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joined Aug 2010
#3 ·
It almost seems like you're acting incapable, yet you're claiming that this is somehow a byproduct of your competence. I suppose one of the hallmarks of those who truly "make it" in their careers is the ability to maintain composure—to read people and anticipate how they might react or move. What you’re interpreting as others not pulling their weight might actually just be a lapse in your own ability to forecast the workflow. And, understandably, that apparent loss of control over the pace and the general atmosphere is what triggers that... well, that "fury" you mentioned.

Beyond that, if you're in a high-level leadership position, when was the last time you actually paused to ask why your subordinates lack motivation? It's pretty obvious they don't have it, but perhaps the reason is worth investigating.

Here is an example of how office rage is often just a symptom of burnout and poor mental health: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEfx8I5PgtY
And just for fun—please don't take this too seriously or as a political statement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq--vR8ahKI
😁
hiddenmarlin14 hiddenmarlin14 Active Member
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joined Feb 2018
#4 ·
Try being a motivator instead of a drill sergeant. People won't work just because you bark orders at them, and honestly, everyone's life would be a hell of a lot better if you tried. Praise what’s actually working, say thanks once in a while—maybe then you'll actually get them to do what you want. Motivation is a powerful thing.
amberscout12 amberscout12 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2010
#5 ·
hiddenmarlin14 said:Try being a motivator instead of a drill sergeant. People won't work just because you bark orders at them, and honestly, everyone's life would be a hell of a lot better if you tried. Praise what’s actually working, say thanks once in a while—maybe then you'll actually get them to do what you want. Motivation is a powerful thing.

I’d give you that exact same advice.

"Motivation is a powerful tool!" 👍 regarding this.
redharbor9 redharbor9 Regular
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joined Aug 2009
#6 ·
Lisa Hernandez3 said:It almost seems like you're acting incapable, yet you're claiming that this is somehow a byproduct of your competence. I suppose one of the hallmarks of those who truly "make it" in their careers is the ability to maintain composure—to read people and anticipate how they might react or move. What you’re interpreting as others not pulling their weight might actually just be a lapse in your own ability to forecast the workflow. And, understandably, that apparent loss of control over the pace and the general atmosphere is what triggers that... well, that "fury" you mentioned.

Beyond that, if you're in a high-level leadership position, when was the last time you actually paused to ask why your subordinates lack motivation? It's pretty obvious they don't have it, but perhaps the reason is worth investigating.

Here is an example of how office rage is often just a symptom of burnout and poor mental health: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEfx8I5PgtY
And just for fun—please don't take this too seriously or as a political statement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq--vR8ahKI
😁

Does that apply to American society too? 😍
Kevin Bailey2 Kevin Bailey2 Regular
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joined Jul 2012
#7 ·
hiddenstag said:To be honest, I’m at a loss for how to handle my own rage. I’ve always been one of those people who, once I set my mind to something, I see it through to the end. If things don't go according to plan, my first instinct is usually to go off on someone. I’ve actually climbed quite high in my career, and I hold a pretty senior management position now. But what really gets under my skin—what I struggle with most—is seeing people half-ass their jobs or just totally slack off. It throws me completely out of whack, and I feel like I lose all control. There are moments where I just want to smash everything in sight, and it takes me a long time to finally settle down.
I just don't know how to find some calm.

Man, that's heavy stuff. Not exactly light conversation.
Grace Barnes37 Grace Barnes37 Newcomer
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#8 ·
They’re trying to weed out all the dead weight from that legal firm—you know, because there’s always some low-level grunt work left over for them, like being a security guard or something. I just sit here all day, brain completely checked out, while the paycheck keeps rolling in... :-)
Morgan Howard6 Morgan Howard6 Member
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joined May 2010
#9 ·
hiddenstag said:To be honest, I’m at a loss for how to handle my own rage. I’ve always been one of those people who, once I set my mind to something, I see it through to the end. If things don't go according to plan, my first instinct is usually to go off on someone. I’ve actually climbed quite high in my career, and I hold a pretty senior management position now. But what really gets under my skin—what I struggle with most—is seeing people half-ass their jobs or just totally slack off. It throws me completely out of whack, and I feel like I lose all control. There are moments where I just want to smash everything in sight, and it takes me a long time to finally settle down.
I just don't know how to find some calm.


Why even bother trying to suppress that anger? There’s a reason you feel that way...

You actually care about the work, while these others are just messing around.

That's why they need to be let go. It's the only way to purge the "dead weight" from corporations and the country can actually move forward. Once they face the consequences and realize their mistakes, they'll change their attitude, and hopefully, they'll carry that lesson into their next job. If we don't do this, we simply can't distinguish the vital from the trivial, and we'll just keep spinning our wheels while productivity stays in the gutter.

In fact, this is precisely why I refused to sign that petition regarding ZOR, and I honestly believe those claiming the whole signature drive was just a vent for general frustration are spot on.
cosmicstag cosmicstag Newcomer
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#10 ·
hiddenstag said:To be honest, I’m at a loss for how to handle my own rage. I’ve always been one of those people who, once I set my mind to something, I see it through to the end. If things don't go according to plan, my first instinct is usually to go off on someone. I’ve actually climbed quite high in my career, and I hold a pretty senior management position now. But what really gets under my skin—what I struggle with most—is seeing people half-ass their jobs or just totally slack off. It throws me completely out of whack, and I feel like I lose all control. There are moments where I just want to smash everything in sight, and it takes me a long time to finally settle down.
I just don't know how to find some calm.

If you have reached a management level, isn't your primary responsibility actually to ensure results through others rather than performing every task yourself? As cliché as that might sound, it is an incredibly difficult transition to make because when you handle a project solo, you have total clarity regarding the timeline and the final outcome. However, once you delegate to a team, you lose that predictability, and that loss of agency can feel suffocating.

Ultimately, shouldn't you focus your energy on mastering people management, given that their failures inevitably become your own?
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
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#11 ·
A guy once told me something I’ll never forget: anyone can busy themselves with mindless labor, but actually organizing a business and seeing a project through to the finish line requires actual talent and vision.
Look, OP, you need to realize right off the bat that if you just go around complaining about every little thing, you’re going to make everyone around you miserable. You need to pinpoint exactly what isn't working and understand that if you actually want results, you have to figure out how to motivate your people.
Motivation can work two ways—you can push people with a stick or pull them with a carrot—but generally speaking, positive reinforcement yields much better long-term results.
It is incredibly stressful for employees when their humanity is ignored and they're treated like nothing more than cogs in a machine designed to perform specific functions.
That being said, given the general attitude we see here in the States, you still have to keep the option of firing people or using other disciplinary measures on the table for those who genuinely refuse to put in the effort.
But whether you choose the carrot or the stick, you really shouldn't be shouting, swearing, or throwing things; you ought to be very careful with how you conduct yourself, because it wouldn't take much for this whole situation to backfire on you.
Lisa Lopez6 Lisa Lopez6 Member
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joined Mar 2011
#12 ·
Kevin Bailey2 said:Man, that's heavy stuff. Not exactly light conversation.

🤣 🤣 🤣
Betty Chase54 Betty Chase54 Member
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joined Feb 2010
#13 ·
Kevin Bailey2 said:Man, that's heavy stuff. Not exactly light conversation.

x👍
Morgan Howard6 Morgan Howard6 Member
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joined May 2010
#14 ·
cosmicstag said:If you have reached a management level, isn't your primary responsibility actually to ensure results through others rather than performing every task yourself? As cliché as that might sound, it is an incredibly difficult transition to make because when you handle a project solo, you have total clarity regarding the timeline and the final outcome. However, once you delegate to a team, you lose that predictability, and that loss of agency can feel suffocating.

Ultimately, shouldn't you focus your energy on mastering people management, given that their failures inevitably become your own?

Sure, but let's be real here... as long as there's no threat of being fired, an employee is always going to be half-hearted about their work. They'll just naturally gravitate toward whatever path requires the absolute least amount of effort—which is basically just cutting corners.
Lisa Hernandez3 Lisa Hernandez3 Active Member
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joined Aug 2010
#15 ·
redharbor9 said:Does that apply to American society too? 😍

No, I mean—this is just more of a general principle, you know? It’s straight out of a textbook, like some theory from industrial sociology or whatever. 🙂
But if we're talking about the author's specific situation... well, I don't know, why is he acting out? If he doesn't feel like working—which, honestly, it seems to me like *he* is the one lacking motivation rather than the management—then he should just quit and be done with it. Or maybe he’s just being young and overly ambitious, I guess.

Otherwise, yeah, Sash makes a good point. Anger was definitely a variable that would have been easy enough to document and analyze, but then you might just end up making the same objection to me as you are now. If all else fails, maybe they could just make some kind of funny video. 😍
cosmicstag cosmicstag Newcomer
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#16 ·
Morgan Howard6 said:Sure, but let's be real here... as long as there's no threat of being fired, an employee is always going to be half-hearted about their work. They'll just naturally gravitate toward whatever path requires the absolute least amount of effort—which is basically just cutting corners.

I am not entirely sure what industry the author is speaking from, but since finding high-quality talent is such a significant challenge in the American workforce, shouldn't we perhaps start by asking why employees seem so disengaged or unmotivated in the first place? Is it possible they feel their hard work yields no tangible results, or perhaps they lack a clear sense of purpose because they aren't aligned with the company's vision, or maybe it's simply because they are never consulted and don't feel like an integral part of the team?

The most draining kind of employment is when you are merely clocking in just to collect a paycheck; isn't it far more vital to ensure people feel like essential components of the organization, feeling both needed and genuinely valued?
wiredfalcon21 wiredfalcon21 Member
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joined Jan 2010
#17 ·
hiddenstag said:To be honest, I’m at a loss for how to handle my own rage. I’ve always been one of those people who, once I set my mind to something, I see it through to the end. If things don't go according to plan, my first instinct is usually to go off on someone. I’ve actually climbed quite high in my career, and I hold a pretty senior management position now. But what really gets under my skin—what I struggle with most—is seeing people half-ass their jobs or just totally slack off. It throws me completely out of whack, and I feel like I lose all control. There are moments where I just want to smash everything in sight, and it takes me a long time to finally settle down.
I just don't know how to find some calm.

You’re just your typical aggressive, capitalist mobber who didn't actually climb the ladder through talent, but through elbowing people aside, playing politics, and using connections—exactly how people get ahead in this country.👎
boldgardener6 boldgardener6 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2010
#18 ·
I would ask the OP to clarify a few details: what kind of degree they hold, the specific nature of their job, and the size of the team they manage...
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#19 ·
hiddenstag said:To be honest, I’m at a loss for how to handle my own rage. I’ve always been one of those people who, once I set my mind to something, I see it through to the end. If things don't go according to plan, my first instinct is usually to go off on someone. I’ve actually climbed quite high in my career, and I hold a pretty senior management position now. But what really gets under my skin—what I struggle with most—is seeing people half-ass their jobs or just totally slack off. It throws me completely out of whack, and I feel like I lose all control. There are moments where I just want to smash everything in sight, and it takes me a long time to finally settle down.
I just don't know how to find some calm.

Maybe try an interpersonal communications workshop😉
Ryan Wood98 Ryan Wood98 Active Member
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joined Feb 2007
#20 ·
hiddenstag said:To be honest, I’m at a loss for how to handle my own rage. I’ve always been one of those people who, once I set my mind to something, I see it through to the end. If things don't go according to plan, my first instinct is usually to go off on someone. I’ve actually climbed quite high in my career, and I hold a pretty senior management position now. But what really gets under my skin—what I struggle with most—is seeing people half-ass their jobs or just totally slack off. It throws me completely out of whack, and I feel like I lose all control. There are moments where I just want to smash everything in sight, and it takes me a long time to finally settle down.
I just don't know how to find some calm.

Do yourself and your colleagues a massive favor: look for a different job.

Immediately.

It seems you aren't suited for working with others, especially not for a leadership position. Perhaps you should seek out a role where you can work independently, without the need for teamwork.

I am being serious here; I am not joking.

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