Violence vs. Pornography

"Sarah Wood8", nice post. Glad someone finally called it out.
It’s just one more thing that goes against basic human nature, pushed by some moral code I have zero interest in.
Humanity is full of paradoxes and most of them are backwards. We accept killing but act like sex is the problem. We all know where those twisted standards originally came from.

bluewolf0 said:"Sarah Wood8", nice post. Glad someone finally called it out.
It’s just one more thing that goes against basic human nature, pushed by some moral code I have zero interest in.
Humanity is full of paradoxes and most of them are backwards. We accept killing but act like sex is the problem. We all know where those twisted standards originally came from.

From Adam? 😁
Exactly. At the end of the day, people turn out to be nothing more than common hypocrites who commit the worst atrocities while hiding behind a thin veil of fake morality and pure pretension.
I remember when Joe picked a show that dealt with sexuality and science; there was a scene where women were participating in an experiment involving seminal fluid. Suddenly, a mob of self-righteous busybodies jumped down everyone's throats for broadcasting it. People actually risked losing their livelihoods because some moral crusader decided it might "harm the children."
Meanwhile, they don't say a single word about the mindless violence and slaughter kids watch on TV every single day! It's absolutely disgusting.

man, just watch this clip... then you'll finally get what I'm talking about

Sarah Wood8 said:From Adam? 😁
Exactly. At the end of the day, people turn out to be nothing more than common hypocrites who commit the worst atrocities while hiding behind a thin veil of fake morality and pure pretension.
I remember when Joe picked a show that dealt with sexuality and science; there was a scene where women were participating in an experiment involving seminal fluid. Suddenly, a mob of self-righteous busybodies jumped down everyone's throats for broadcasting it. People actually risked losing their livelihoods because some moral crusader decided it might "harm the children."
Meanwhile, they don't say a single word about the mindless violence and slaughter kids watch on TV every single day! It's absolutely disgusting.

That moral outrage existed long before Amer, but today it’s just a convenient excuse to build walls around ourselves.
Since you brought up responsibility, that’s really the core of it. We never take the blame. It’s always some other nation, or what our churches teach us, or societal norms, or we're just following leaders into war because of our heritage... but when it's just us? Never. We won't admit we're responsible, because that's simply not an option. 🙂

mistyseal11 said:

man, just watch this clip... then you'll finally get what I'm talking about

Honestly, this whole thing has been messing with my head for a while now. This video basically shows this repetitive, mindless loop of action that turns almost abstract because there’s just zero substance to it, yet all that violence—which we see constantly shoved down our throats on TV—is what actually feels obscene, you know? It's the kind of stuff that can genuinely make you feel sick, yet they pump out massive amounts of it and call it totally fine.

And don't even get me started on that specific scene where they show someone drinking semen under the guise of some "scientific experiment." Like, seriously, what is the actual visual difference between drinking that and just grabbing a glass of milk?

It’s such a wild topic, and I really feel like there's something fundamentally broken with these moral crusaders who are trying to force this totally twisted double standard on everyone, but man, I just can't wrap my head around how they justify it.

Violence and sex are just baked into the human experience!

Take this, for example:
Long before we had TV and movies, there were always kids picking on those weaker than them or getting into mischief (like using slingshots to hunt birds, for instance).
And even back then, kids were learning about sexuality; it was just a different era where it was perfectly standard for a girl to be married by age 15.

In my view, the real issue today is how everything gets relativized. There is a massive difference between seeing a corpse or a murder on a screen and actually witnessing it in real life. Because of that, children—who aren't fully developed psychologically or morally yet—can easily start viewing violence as a normal part of life, even though most people wouldn't actually want to experience it themselves. These extreme cases we see on screen are maybe one out of every 10,000 real events, yet they are served to us on TV every single day, which creates this false impression that chaos is happening everywhere around us.
So, why the violence? Well, like I mentioned, a segment of our population still finds it compelling, and Hollywood exploits that human curiosity simply to rake in more cash. Besides, movie violence doesn't have to be inherently negative. It really comes down to whether the violence is being glamorized, like in a Rambo flick, or if it’s used to drive home a moral lesson that such behavior is wrong.

And what about pornography? First off, let’s be clear: raw pornography contributes absolutely nothing to a child's education on the subject. If you ask me, I’d much rather see actual sexual intimacy portrayed in mainstream films—something you see more often in international cinema—rather than the Hollywood standard where everything is hidden under bedsheets. 🙂
Since pornography is also a part of human culture, it’s going to fascinate people, and kids will seek it out regardless of how much their well-meaning parents or public figures try to protect them. Again, I am talking about more educational films where love exists and leads to intimacy, rather than just sex for the sake of sex. Which, let's face it, is what most kids see today, leading them to believe they have to rush into sexual relationships or start taking photos and videos as soon as possible because that's all they see on TV and the internet.

Sarah Wood8 said:Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if there’s some much deeper political agenda driving all this violence. I'm not trying to dive headfirst into conspiracy theories here, but this constant barrage of brutality is definitely desensitizing us. It's reached a point where watching these horrific scenes—whether in movies or real life—has just become our version of saying "good morning."
Take the last twenty years, for example. Back then, seeing a mangled corpse on TV was enough to make anyone turn away in horror. But over the last decade, thanks to endless shows like *CSI* or *Dexter*, we're constantly bombarded with the most revolting footage of human decay, autopsies, and gruesome crime scenes. Two decades ago, people would have been physically sick; today, we've become completely numb to it. It feels like these shows are specifically designed to strip away our empathy. And as for how this is affecting our kids? We honestly don't know yet, and that's the scary part.

It’s incredibly plausible; honestly, it wouldn't surprise me one bit. However, I suspect the motivation isn't just to numb us, but rather to sell something—because if you can't find an audience, you can't make a buck. Violence is magnetic, partly because it taps into that sense of "schadenfreude" and partly because it remains taboo. It targets those primal human impulses, but frankly, sex is right up there with it. I agree, sex is necessary and it can be wonderful, but let's really think about this: it has been turned into a mass-marketed commodity. It’s been stripped away from intimacy, severed from respect for privacy (both our own and others'), and worst of all, it’s being disconnected from mutual love or even simple affection. If they can control us through violence, they can control us even more easily through sex.
Furthermore, as harmful as violence is, a child won't see people walking around randomly murdering each other, but they *do* notice that adults are always "doing something" regarding sex. Since adults tend to stay silent about it, kids end up looking for answers elsewhere—namely, in pornography. I'm not saying that being open about sexuality will eliminate porn, but it shouldn't be the primary reference point. It should be what it actually is: staged fiction. On the contrary, without other sources of information, pornography becomes dangerous. Does it teach respect? No. Does it teach responsibility in sexual behavior? No. Does it teach the potential negative consequences of being irresponsible? Absolutely not. Just imagine a porn scene where someone acts reluctant and shouts "no," and then you face that in reality, only to have some horny fifteen-year-old think "no" is just part of the act. In essence, you're looking at rape. There was actually a study on how many young people believe that "no" actually means "yes," and the results were devastating.
I know you watch it, and I get that it serves as a sort of release valve, but please, take a moment to reflect. You aren't seven, eight, or even ten years old. You possess maturity. You have the capacity for critical thinking. You aren't psychologically, sexually, cognitively, socially, or emotionally underdeveloped.

It’s the hypocrisy that really gets under my skin. You can’t force me to sit through religious sermons twenty-four hours a day, but then suddenly you want to ban adult content because it might "damage" a child's psyche? Give me a break! Who’s actually crazy here? At its most basic level, a sexual act is more natural than watching some scene in a Tarantinov movie where someone gets their ear sliced off, doused in gasoline, and slaughtered.
Kids don't have critical thinking skills, sure, but they start distinguishing reality from fiction by the time they hit puberty around eleven or twelve. Personally, I could always tell the difference, though certain disgusting scenes still get to me even now at twenty-nine, whether they're real or just movie magic. That said, I’ve become pretty desensitized to 99.9% of it; nothing really shocks me anymore.
But this whole movement to promote non-violence by scrubbing everything—not just adult films, but any movie with "explicit" sexual scenes (which is just a fancy way of saying people having sex)—feels like what I call the Jerry Springer syndrome.
Jerry Springer is the ultimate example of pure hypocrisy. You have this smart guy making a fortune off people brawling until they bleed over nonsense, broadcasting it to the masses as peak entertainment. Yet, the second some "white trash" guest says a single swear word, they hit them with a "beep." Hold on a second... you let us watch the absolute bottom of the barrel, which honestly has more culture and spirit than a pride of lions, but if someone uses profanity, you censor it and then wrap up the show with some moral lecture? All while two murders happen in the parking lot after the cameras stop rolling.
It makes me wonder... who’s the lunatic? It’s typical American hypocrisy. If you’re going to let us watch people act like animals, then let me hear them talk like humans. Let them laugh in front of the camera and say, "Hope you enjoyed the show," instead of having Jerry act all high and mighty, lecturing us while he rakes in millions from people with an IQ lower than Forrest Gump.

Violence in media and video games really ought to be regulated or even restricted for kids; there is truly everything to be seen these days. The issue is that those providing this kind of content are incredibly savvy when it comes to navigating the sea of laws and regulations. Then there is the Internet—the Wild West of the digital age—where you can find absolutely anything. It could be better organized and monitored, certainly. But clearly, if it were, some influential people wouldn't be able to make enough money.

Regarding sexuality, we are definitely lacking proper sexual education, starting from parents (who often dodge that "awkward" task or simply lack the time) all the way through schools and the media. Today, marketing exploits sex as something natural and powerful just to sell us whatever they want, which fuels this frantic, uncontrolled consumerism. From a societal perspective—under constant bombardment from media, advertisements, reality shows, and warped beliefs—sex is anything but the foundation of physical intimacy between two people. On the flip side, we have extreme conservatism that stunts sexual development because it views everything as dirty or abnormal.

Using porn as a tool for sexual education? That is almost laughable. The only thing porn can teach is the mechanics of sex. Everything else is missing. This is especially true since porn depicts sexual fantasies where anything goes, where there is no before or after, and where responsibility doesn't exist. The adult industry isn't aiming to educate the masses. Its goal is profit, and they will serve up whatever it takes to get an audience—basically, cash.

People, this is basic psychology. Don't you think there's a chance a child watching porn develops a distorted view of their own sexuality instead of building a healthy sense of themselves as a sexual being? Especially if that is a child's first window into the world of sex.

For instance, these skewed images and depictions of sex can cause real problems for individuals in their romantic relationships and their overall satisfaction. What kind of problems? Just look at the US and search online; you'll definitely stumble upon something.
Just to clear the air, I am not a moralizer. I don't care who anyone sleeps with or what their habits are. For that matter, I myself was exposed to the very content we are discussing.

I believe that rather than fighting "sex vs. violence," it would be better to study the effects of both on people of all ages, stripped of conservative biases and the excessive "liberalism" of the mass media. The fact is, we are bombarded daily with violence and sex. The media sets these unrealistic preconditions and expectations regarding sexuality, while violence is promoted as a form of entertainment. How do we escape this? Reform the education system? Things like that are never going away because they are profitable for someone. So, what then? Perhaps teaching children the truth behind the things they are bombarded with every day, so their development is less conditioned by these messages and they can distinguish media-driven illusions from the actual reality of the world around them. Since children cannot grasp everything at certain ages, censorship is necessary in some places, or perhaps we simply haven't found the right way to solve the problem yet.

And yes, stop blaming America for everything that exists. Maybe some of it originated there, but our local TV networks and media distributors haven't shown the slightest bit of restraint when buying the rights to reality trash, movies, series, and games.

Look, I get it—most people don't want to sit through tedious dramas or those pretentious indie flicks where some guy just stands in the rain for twenty minutes while we watch.
Hollywood has always been synonymous with both quality and entertainment, but lately, it’s pumped out way more garbage than actual good cinema. Violence can work if it's woven into a solid story—because let's face it, it's inevitable—but violence just for the sake of being violent is pure stupidity. Take the original Rambo; that was a solid movie, meaningful and grounded, which made it a high-quality piece of work. But all the sequels after that? They exist solely to peddle mindless carnage. Once networks like FOX started flooding the airwaves with low-rent action movies starring guys like Michael Dudikoff or Dolph Lundgren, you really start to lose faith. It's just the same junk over and over, following a template where the only goal is to kill, kill, and kill.
There are plenty of violent movies that actually carry a message and aren't just designed to bait an audience with gore. For instance, Stanley Kubrick with Full Metal Jacket or De Palma with Casualties of War serve a much higher purpose than just showing bloodshed. Personally, I think anyone could find value in watching Casualties of War.
Then there are the absolute gems like Perfect World, or The Shawshank Redemption, plus a mountain of great comedies. Honestly, for me, the only truly perfect action series was the Deadly Weapon franchise because the humor was sharp, the themes were decent, and the violence wasn't the entire point.
Even Spielberg makes great films, and so does Sergio Leone—even if his first trilogy was a bit excessive with the violence, it still had substance—as does Ridley Scott. There is a massive range of fun movies and genres that can entertain people of all ages without everything having to boil down to slaughter.
Now, while I find Tarantino interesting, his movies definitely aren't for kids; I’d honestly rather my twelve-year-old son watch porn than sit through one of his films. Besides, the best thing about Tarantino’s work is how he basically lifted dozens of classic musical scores from Ennio Morricone for almost all his movies.
Since his films represent the peak of mindless violence, occasionally sprinkled with a bit of originality and craft, how can anyone justify letting their kids watch them while simultaneously whining about women drinking sperm on some science show or complaining about a pornographic video!?
It's funny how this supposedly ultra-moralistic, Christian society doesn't make a fuss when kids are watching crap like this nearly every single day (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXOLjOI0cT0), yet they claim seeing a pornographic film would "emotionally damage" them.
It brings me right back to my original point: people are just incredibly foolish creatures who manufacture senseless, illogical rules to mask the worst kind of hypocrisy.

Quincy:

I honestly think instead of this endless debate over sex versus violence, we should be looking at how both actually impact people of all ages once you strip away all the conservative dogma and the excessive "liberalism" found in the mainstream media. The reality is that we’re bombarded with images of violence and sex every single day. The media pushes these totally unrealistic expectations regarding sexuality, while treating violence like some kind of casual entertainment. How do we escape that cycle? Overhaul the entire education system? That’s probably never going to happen because there's too much money to be made in it. So what's the move? Maybe we should just teach kids the truth behind the stuff they're being blasted with daily. If they can understand the manipulation, their development might be less conditioned by those messages, allowing them to actually distinguish between media-driven narratives and the real world. Since kids obviously can't grasp everything at certain ages, maybe some level of censorship is necessary where we haven't yet found a better way to handle the issue.

The fact that instances of child-on-child violence are climbing year after year—or maybe we're just finally starting to pay attention to it—shows that our education system isn't just struggling; it has completely failed. This isn't just about banning junk food for kids; it's about the fundamental lack of guidance that schools clearly aren't providing. Schools don't teach them how to actually live or how to be decent human beings. Either parents simply don't care, they're too busy, or they're worse than their own children. It's a tough pill to swallow, but we have to fix the way we raise and educate kids. Because if adults don't step up to guide them, they'll be raised by the streets, violent movies, and all that garbage that seems "cool" to some 15-year-old idiot who hasn't found themselves yet. Without a sense of self, they just go looking for identity in fringe groups that thrive on making life miserable for everyone else and recruiting mindless kids who have no backbone.

I’ve been reading through several posts here lately, and honestly, it’s refreshing to see so many smart takes. It makes me feel a bit better knowing there are still people who realize when something just isn't right. Violence should absolutely be phased out. The tricky part is acknowledging that it existed long before modern cinema—just like pornography did—but things feel fundamentally different today. What exactly is that difference? It feels like we’ve actually become more sensitive to this stuff rather than desensitized. I see so many people reaching a breaking point where they just can't stand turning on the TV anymore, especially when you consider how bad it gets on networks like FOX with their bottom-tier programming.
A lot of us might argue, "Yeah, but we grew up watching violence and porn, and we turned out fine." But the truth is, none of us truly knows who we would have become if we hadn't. Would we be better versions of ourselves? Less frustrated? Less numb?

And don't even get me started on reality TV—the Survivor clones, Big Brother, or those "moment of truth" shows. That might actually be worse than the violence or the adult content. These shows send a message that the bigger the idiot you are, the higher your chances of being noticed and becoming "important." In a world where so many people feel lost in a gray sea of insignificance and feeling replaceable, these shows offer a roadmap for attention-seeking behavior. They basically provide a manual for kids who are starving for validation. Not to mention the way media outlets exploit stories about teen suicides just to drive up circulation, completely ignoring the terrifying possibility that they might actually be planting the idea in someone's head.

Everyone’s obsessed with talking about hetero stuff—what about same-sex encounters? 🙄

If they actually aired porn on TV, I wouldn't even touch it—too gross. Maybe it's just my super conservative upbringing, or maybe I find sex totally shallow since there's zero mental stimulation involved... or hey, maybe it's just because it's straight sex. Honestly, watching two hot guys is way more entertaining 😁

Megan Nguyen22 said:I’ve been reading through several posts here lately, and honestly, it’s refreshing to see so many smart takes. It makes me feel a bit better knowing there are still people who realize when something just isn't right. Violence should absolutely be phased out. The tricky part is acknowledging that it existed long before modern cinema—just like pornography did—but things feel fundamentally different today. What exactly is that difference? It feels like we’ve actually become more sensitive to this stuff rather than desensitized. I see so many people reaching a breaking point where they just can't stand turning on the TV anymore, especially when you consider how bad it gets on networks like FOX with their bottom-tier programming.
A lot of us might argue, "Yeah, but we grew up watching violence and porn, and we turned out fine." But the truth is, none of us truly knows who we would have become if we hadn't. Would we be better versions of ourselves? Less frustrated? Less numb?

And don't even get me started on reality TV—the Survivor clones, Big Brother, or those "moment of truth" shows. That might actually be worse than the violence or the adult content. These shows send a message that the bigger the idiot you are, the higher your chances of being noticed and becoming "important." In a world where so many people feel lost in a gray sea of insignificance and feeling replaceable, these shows offer a roadmap for attention-seeking behavior. They basically provide a manual for kids who are starving for validation. Not to mention the way media outlets exploit stories about teen suicides just to drive up circulation, completely ignoring the terrifying possibility that they might actually be planting the idea in someone's head.

There was a time when people were more sensitive to tragedy because they weren't bombarded by it every single day. School violence wasn't this constant headline back then; it seems to have escalated since the 90s, perhaps fueled in part by the fallout from various conflicts.
We didn't used to hear stories about people being beaten to death in the streets, but now, America is slowly turning into Harlem.
Take the Hindenburg disaster, for example. The journalist reporting it live in 1937 actually wept on air. Fast forward to today, and you see news crews in Haiti filming a twenty-year-old kid right after he's been shot by the police. As he's literally dying, foreign journalists just aim their cameras at his face so we can all watch and consume the spectacle, while those mindless reporters don't even bother to step in with a rag to try and stop the bleeding... no, nothing. They just film him until he expires and feed it to us. That scene nearly traumatized me personally.
It’s simple: life just doesn't hold any value anymore. People go online and join forums dedicated to swapping photos of car wrecks and mangled bodies. TV does the exact same thing, and during wartime, filming executions and corpses became a literal trend.
Then we shouldn't act surprised by what our children turn into. Life means nothing to them. There was a case where a group of kids in England tied a boy to a chair, cut him alive, and eventually poured gasoline on him and set him on fire—they reportedly got the idea from Quentin Tarantino's "Reservoir Dogs," if I remember correctly. When you constantly broadcast this stuff, people don't just get numb to it; it subconsciously builds this idea that this kind of depravity is perfectly okay.
Even that series "Oz," which, I have to admit, drove me absolutely insane while I was watching it, might serve as a blueprint for some idiot kids to think those kinds of "interpersonal relationships" are cool to replicate in school... you know, survival of the fittest, demanding respect through fear, forming gangs, and ultimately bullying the weak or killing in the most horrific ways possible.

Sarah Wood8 said:There was a time when people were more sensitive to tragedy because they weren't bombarded by it every single day. School violence wasn't this constant headline back then; it seems to have escalated since the 90s, perhaps fueled in part by the fallout from various conflicts.
We didn't used to hear stories about people being beaten to death in the streets, but now, America is slowly turning into Harlem.
Take the Hindenburg disaster, for example. The journalist reporting it live in 1937 actually wept on air. Fast forward to today, and you see news crews in Haiti filming a twenty-year-old kid right after he's been shot by the police. As he's literally dying, foreign journalists just aim their cameras at his face so we can all watch and consume the spectacle, while those mindless reporters don't even bother to step in with a rag to try and stop the bleeding... no, nothing. They just film him until he expires and feed it to us. That scene nearly traumatized me personally.
It’s simple: life just doesn't hold any value anymore. People go online and join forums dedicated to swapping photos of car wrecks and mangled bodies. TV does the exact same thing, and during wartime, filming executions and corpses became a literal trend.
Then we shouldn't act surprised by what our children turn into. Life means nothing to them. There was a case where a group of kids in England tied a boy to a chair, cut him alive, and eventually poured gasoline on him and set him on fire—they reportedly got the idea from Quentin Tarantino's "Reservoir Dogs," if I remember correctly. When you constantly broadcast this stuff, people don't just get numb to it; it subconsciously builds this idea that this kind of depravity is perfectly okay.
Even that series "Oz," which, I have to admit, drove me absolutely insane while I was watching it, might serve as a blueprint for some idiot kids to think those kinds of "interpersonal relationships" are cool to replicate in school... you know, survival of the fittest, demanding respect through fear, forming gangs, and ultimately bullying the weak or killing in the most horrific ways possible.

It’s all catastrophic... but still, you have to keep in mind that someone from a stable family who is mentally healthy isn't going to go out and beat or kill someone else. A movie might provide an idea, but it doesn't provide the motive. A colleague once warned me about that, but I find myself thinking: what if the family environment is broken and everything is falling apart? Does that mean there's no hope left because society has become uncivilized and savage? Society doesn't take responsibility for that; if someone is left to the wolves, the wolves will gladly devour them.
And that bit about the journalists hits the nail on the head—it's exploitation par excellence, purely to drive sales...
What you said is spot on—the Hindenburg caused tears; photos from Vietnam sparked massive protests. Today, everything is trivialized and the standards are gone. I mentioned in another thread that violence and various kinds of filth have always existed, but today there is a difference. At one point, honesty and virtue were at least nominally valued, but nowadays, you're considered a fool if you act that way. Today, it's "cool" to be a mobster, a thug, rude, and violent.

Morgan Bishop4 said:Look, there's such a thing as kid's play... like when they pretend to fight wars or whatever... but it stops being fun the second someone's teeth get knocked out or they're getting kicked until they're bleeding. Or is that just part of the game to you?

And I totally disagree with the idea that being smarter makes you a better fighter... I'd argue that smarter people are actually more peaceful, because they actually use their brains and realize there’s no real reason to kill, since they can solve their problems through other means instead of just resorting to brute force...
And all those monuments we build to "great leaders" who spent their lives slaughtering people and conquering territory? I don't see that as anything remotely legitimate. That's really the sickest part of our society... viewing those kinds of people as heroes... heroes who sent thousands of their own people to die while they stayed perfectly safe... imagine the sheer "courage" it takes to command an army and just watch them get slaughtered...
People in general tend to value all the wrong things in society. Killing is definitely one of them...

Come on, they're just kids. It's baby teeth; they grow back. You guys are being way too hard on these poor children. If we keep this up, we'll end up banning everything, like we're living under some kind of strict authoritarian regime...

Henry Sullivan3 said:Come on, they're just kids. It's baby teeth; they grow back. You guys are being way too hard on these poor children. If we keep this up, we'll end up banning everything, like we're living under some kind of strict authoritarian regime...

hahaha... you're such a clown 🤣

Sarah Wood8 said:hahaha... you're such a clown 🤣

Honestly, though, I wonder who would even dare say that to Coco Gauff’s mom or any of those other players who just got blindsided.

Sarah Wood8 said:Can someone please explain the massive paradox at the heart of our society? We’ve collectively decided that violence and crime—things that are actually illegal—are perfectly fine entertainment for TV, where kids and adults alike sit around watching them together. Yet, when it comes to sex, which is not only natural but beautiful and essential for continuing the species, it's treated like something taboo. It basically boils down to this:
taking a life = good
creating life = bad

I see all these moral crusaders acting outraged because ten-year-olds are joining Facebook groups or communities centered around "loving sex." Of course they are! They have those urges, even if they haven't actually acted on them yet. It's a natural instinct, yet we stare at them like they're some kind of freak. What would be better, though? Should we let them develop a murderous instinct instead of a sexual one? Would that be acceptable? In a society where you can watch dozens, even hundreds, of lives being violently snatched away through murder and torture on TV every single day, I don't see why kids wouldn't just start an online group called "I love killing"
. Sure, obviously that wouldn't be okay, but if killing isn't normal, then why is watching violence considered fine? Humanity treats violence as the ultimate mass entertainment. Go ahead, let the kids watch Ram mow down hundreds of people with a machine gun; heaven forbid they catch a glimpse of a man or woman's anatomy, let alone anything intimate. If they do, suddenly everyone starts shouting about morality. The busybodies run to the police or the courts, and religious types start rambling on about hell, damnation, and eternal punishment.

Just imagine a different scenario. Suppose we grew up in a society that didn't view the human body as shameful—where people weren't embarrassed to swim naked in the ocean or walk to the corner store without clothes when it gets hot, simply because they live in a culture that doesn't treat genitals as something sinister. Imagine a world where you might watch a movie with intimacy at 8 PM, or see people being affectionate in soap operas during the day, because sex isn't a taboo. In such a world, sex is seen as what it actually is: a way to create life, something beautiful, fun, healthy, and universally enjoyed.
Then, out of nowhere, some idiot decides to make a movie about brutal murder. That's a fundamentally stupid idea because killing is wrong; it's evil; it involves someone stripping a human being of their life in the most disgusting way possible.
In that hypothetical world, a society raised on intimacy would suddenly be faced with graphic violence for the first time. How do you think they'd react? People would be traumatized, psychiatric wards would overflow, and children wouldn't be able to sleep at night. Of course they would react that way, because witnessing something that is inherently evil and traumatic would be a normal response. But in our current world, we've been conditioned to accept violence as if we were told from birth that eating garbage every day is perfectly fine.
On the flip side, what is actually wrong with sex?

Where did this mindless, idiotic invention come from—this idea that people should be ashamed of their bodies, or that sex should be portrayed in a way that children hitting puberty at eleven or twelve shouldn't see? So, it's "NORMAL" for kids to watch slaughter, but "NOT NORMAL" for them to see a completely natural and acceptable act like basic intercourse that every person on this planet has the right to experience? That makes no sense.

That specific brand of social hypocrisy is honestly what I find most disgusting about everything.
We have murder, which is a crime, and we're allowed to watch it. We have sex, which isn't a crime, and we aren't allowed to watch it.
And really, if a twelve-year-old isn't allowed to see intimacy, why on earth are they allowed to watch a massacre?
Isn't our society just a little bit... retarded!?

Back in the day, if two people had a standoff with pistols, it usually ended in one person being dead, and that was just how things worked. Nowadays, if you even tried something like that, you'd be looking at a life sentence in a federal penitentiary.

As time moves on, social norms shift. The whole "violence vs. porn" debate is a total wash—it’s just X vs. Y, and both will always exist. It really just comes down to whether an individual is self-aware enough to realize how ridiculous it all is and adapt, or if they'll just get labeled an idiot for not following the script.