CheckEmoji Community · the emoji forum
🏠 Home 🆕 What's new ❓ Unanswered 🔥 Popular 📡 RSS Members 👥 0 online log in · register
Home › Society › Psychology › Why is there such a "God complex" among doctors?

Why is there such a "God complex" among doctors?

Started by Donna Wood52 · · 👁 13 views · 155 replies

📡 Subscribe to replies

Participants Donna Wood52Susan Rodriguez72Sarah Wood8Brenda Cook4redharbor9Lisa Hernandez3granitefalcon26Chris Nelson26brightlynx39Kyle Lee7wearybison35redeagle96Henry James3Daniel Wilson5driftingbadger5Michael Ortiz68goldenmason32Susan Lewis2Ryan Wood98Brenda Sanders46rowdycrane9Walter Lewis5Taylor Patel6David Morgan72 …
steelrider16 steelrider16 Member
13 messages
joined Jan 2009
#121 ·
🙂 Ultimately, whether you get ripped off or billed fairly comes down to the individuals involved; in many scenarios, the owners of these companies are the ones pulling the strings, deciding exactly how much to charge and what grade of materials to install.

While it’s often the laborers who are doing the heavy lifting and following orders, I definitely agree with you that they aren't all the same—you still run into those types who leave a total mess behind, do shoddy work, or just spend more time on smoke breaks and coffee runs than actually working.

And honestly, I’m not exactly a fan of hiring contractors myself 😁; I certainly don't want anyone tearing things up or breaking stuff in my own home, but I find I quite enjoy watching them work at someone else's place! 🤣
Nicole Barrett76 Nicole Barrett76 Regular
515 messages
joined Sep 2009
#122 ·
In my estimation, the most grueling academic paths are undoubtedly those essential for the construction, maintenance, and operation of nuclear power plants.

Anyone who manages to graduate from one of those specialized programs with a focus strictly on nuclear energy—well, they truly deserve our utmost respect.

Furthermore, I find it quite striking how society generally treats physicians as if they were some sort of higher species altogether.

Susan Rodriguez72 said:I’d say the exact same thing about psychologists. :P
Everyone acts like they're the smartest person in the room, mostly because they actually have the tools—and some even have the nerve—to manipulate people!

Personally, I don't believe they view themselves as superior beings, nor do they carry themselves with such immense arrogance; at least, certainly not to the extent that doctors do. What I find fault with them, however, is that they often seem lazy and perpetually bewildered. It appears to me that for many of them, their own vast knowledge serves more to confuse them than to set them free.
Nicole Barrett76 Nicole Barrett76 Regular
515 messages
joined Sep 2009
#123 ·
Sarah Wood8 said:It’s honestly pathetic how your average hypochondriac usually ends up knowing more about medicine than actual doctors, often diagnosing themselves before a professional can even step into the room.
Most of these physicians are just straight-up nerds who don't actually grasp the fundamentals, which is a tragedy. Being a doctor is arguably the most responsible job out there, yet it usually boils down to people being nothing more than arrogant pretenders.
It reminds me of that news story from yesterday where a woman was complaining about abdominal pain, only for them to dismiss her as a liar—then they actually left a surgical tool inside her and tried to cover the whole thing up once it came to light.
In my opinion, people like that have no business holding a medical degree.
The issue isn't just the fact that they left an instrument inside her; the real problem is their dismissive reaction to her pain and their complete lack of initiative to even order an X-ray, followed by that blatant attempt at a cover-up. People with that mindset simply CANNOT be doctors.

Is there any role more consequential than those commanding the teams at a nuclear power plant? If someone makes a truly catastrophic error there, everything goes to hell, and we could face a reality where hundreds of thousands of citizens are unable to return to their homes for nearly an entire millennium.

Sarah Wood8 said:It’s honestly pathetic how your average hypochondriac usually ends up knowing more about medicine than actual doctors, often diagnosing themselves before a professional can even step into the room.
Most of these physicians are just straight-up nerds who don't actually grasp the fundamentals, which is a tragedy. Being a doctor is arguably the most responsible job out there, yet it usually boils down to people being nothing more than arrogant pretenders.
It reminds me of that news story from yesterday where a woman was complaining about abdominal pain, only for them to dismiss her as a liar—then they actually left a surgical tool inside her and tried to cover the whole thing up once it came to light.
In my opinion, people like that have no business holding a medical degree.
The issue isn't just the fact that they left an instrument inside her; the real problem is their dismissive reaction to her pain and their complete lack of initiative to even order an X-ray, followed by that blatant attempt at a cover-up. People with that mindset simply CANNOT be doctors.

They would be better suited working as butchers.

Donna Wood52 said:I am not generalizing. Far too many women have lost their babies during childbirth because of medical negligence—simply because doctors are stubborn, burnt out, or just plain indifferent.

A slip-up? A woman loses her child; that isn't some minor "error" to her. And then, to top it all off, these cases get swept under the rug. There are plenty of these incidents—it's not just about "if you mess up once." 🤷

A woman once recounted how her friend was in labor, and the doctors in the adjacent room were actually giggling and laughing instead of providing assistance, even as her pelvis fractured during the delivery.

There you have it: yet another example of what passes for "patient care."

brightlynx39 said:Major respect to the medical field, though there are certainly doctors out there who don't deserve the title. Still, it's important that they hold that MD degree regardless.

I believe one of those who least deserves it is Asim Kurjak.
Walter Lewis5 Walter Lewis5 Member
14 messages
joined Feb 2009
#124 ·
Anthony Stewart22 said:People actually want the work you do. There’s money to be made. The real question is whether you’re actually putting in the hours, or if you're just one of those people collecting unemployment checks while picking up side gigs under the table.
Then, in their downtime, they love to tear down doctors and intellectuals.
It was the same back in the old days. People used to mock the educated class. They’d talk about how it should just be the laborers, the farmers, and the "honest" working class.🙄

If you ask me, nobody is actually bashing anyone here.😕 In my book, anyone who spends their time tearing others down isn't much of an intellectual themselves.

I don't get why someone who is skilled and works hard with their hands is supposedly worth less than some professor or doctor—or why they should have to earn less.😕

A person earns exactly what they pour into themselves and their craft. Take a professor, for example: if he finishes his degree and never touches a book again for the rest of his life, he shouldn't be making more than a "regular" tradesperson or a small business owner. Why should he? Just because he walked across a stage once? That’s not exactly a difficult feat if you actually have the drive.

If all he does for the next forty years is parrot the same things he learned in college like a trained bird, then having a degree doesn't make him any more valuable or smarter than anyone else.

A hundred years ago, professors were treated like deities because they, along with priests and doctors, were the only ones with access to books. Nowadays, your average person who actually has the discipline to learn and invest in themselves often knows significantly more than your average professor or teacher... at least when it comes to the state of things in America.☕
granitefalcon26 granitefalcon26 Active Member
193 messages
joined Jan 2015
#125 ·
Walter Lewis5 said:If you ask me, nobody is actually bashing anyone here.😕 In my book, anyone who spends their time tearing others down isn't much of an intellectual themselves.

I don't get why someone who is skilled and works hard with their hands is supposedly worth less than some professor or doctor—or why they should have to earn less.😕

A person earns exactly what they pour into themselves and their craft. Take a professor, for example: if he finishes his degree and never touches a book again for the rest of his life, he shouldn't be making more than a "regular" tradesperson or a small business owner. Why should he? Just because he walked across a stage once? That’s not exactly a difficult feat if you actually have the drive.

If all he does for the next forty years is parrot the same things he learned in college like a trained bird, then having a degree doesn't make him any more valuable or smarter than anyone else.

A hundred years ago, professors were treated like deities because they, along with priests and doctors, were the only ones with access to books. Nowadays, your average person who actually has the discipline to learn and invest in themselves often knows significantly more than your average professor or teacher... at least when it comes to the state of things in America.☕

And you've gone and targeted teachers now? Without them, we wouldn't even have doctors, lawyers, or skilled contractors.
Have you ever actually taught a class? Do you know what it takes just to prepare for a single lesson? These folks spend so much time at home prepping, grading tests, and designing exams. And none of that extra work is even part of their paycheck.
So, maybe don't lecture us on things you haven't experienced firsthand.☕
Walter Lewis5 Walter Lewis5 Member
14 messages
joined Feb 2009
#126 ·
granitefalcon26 said:And you've gone and targeted teachers now? Without them, we wouldn't even have doctors, lawyers, or skilled contractors.
Have you ever actually taught a class? Do you know what it takes just to prepare for a single lesson? These folks spend so much time at home prepping, grading tests, and designing exams. And none of that extra work is even part of their paycheck.
So, maybe don't lecture us on things you haven't experienced firsthand.☕

Right, because teaching is just the hardest job on Earth—spending all your free time getting ready for work... give me a break.🙂
ruggedscout91 ruggedscout91 Active Member
63 messages
joined Feb 2010
#127 ·
redharbor23 said:Medical interns earn between $4,200 and $1533, depending on their location. Once licensed—meaning they are practicing physicians, not yet specialists (keep in mind general practice itself requires a five-year specialization)—salaries hover around $5,000 to $2000, though emergency medicine pays more due to on-call shifts and irregular hours.
A specialist, following six years of medical school, one year of internship, and five years of residency, earns $3000, which increases significantly if they work hospital shifts.
Go ahead and try to compare those salaries to the training required for janitorial staff. This isn't about disparaging anyone; it's a matter of fact. You don't need even a high school diploma to clean, whereas a physician's education spans over twenty years.

I was just thinking about why people treat doctors like deities, and I decided to look into it and write something up regarding the way doctors are treated, the constant excuses made for them, and so on.
Of course, we should probably start a separate thread dedicated solely to medical errors; then all the aggrieved patients can line up. That would be fair.

I have something else to address. Regarding how they treat patients and the intrusion into privacy—regardless of the established boundaries between doctor and patient during care, procedures, or exams—it hasn't exactly reached an enviable standard here in America.
People are forced to strip down and trust any random staff member. They have zero protection from the "hundred eyes" and the constant commentary, especially in OBGYN. For some, the experience during a hospital stay can lead to lasting psychosis or depression, depending on the individual.
Doctor arrogance isn't just about mistakes (everyone slips up); it's about how they carry themselves toward their supposed "end consumer," which is the patient. Their behavior is often appalling. They don't say, "Please prepare for the exam." Instead, a gynecologist at a local clinic might just bark, "Get naked." I've heard of interns crowding a pregnant woman, shoving past her while she was exposed and panicking. There are rude comments directed at elderly women who are perfectly fine, just because some uneducated person finished med school. Or they leave a patient wandering in a hallway, unsure how to even find their ward. During rounds, they mock you openly and laugh at things that aren't funny.

In our hospitals, a patient constantly feels like they've wandered into a concentration camp where only Mengele stands between them and recovery.

That is why people recoil. And yet, in the absence of rational thought, some people still insist on treating them like gods.
Most of them are just ordinary people who fell in love with a calling that doesn't pay well. Everything else is just nonsense we make up. Personally, I would never marry a doctor. You won't end up with a husband, a lover, or a provider; you'll just end up with someone who stays overnight occasionally and tries to compensate for every neglected responsibility with money. That is not a solution.
And don't even get me started on the nurses and the staff on shift with them. If you are a spouse, you are better off staying away from the ward entirely. But I will save that for another time. It might turn out they are great lovers, or they aren't. That's all there is to it. Some of this knowledge comes from firsthand experience during internships in certain facilities, and some comes directly from being a patient.
granitefalcon26 granitefalcon26 Active Member
193 messages
joined Jan 2015
#128 ·
ruggedscout91 said:I was just thinking about why people treat doctors like deities, and I decided to look into it and write something up regarding the way doctors are treated, the constant excuses made for them, and so on.
Of course, we should probably start a separate thread dedicated solely to medical errors; then all the aggrieved patients can line up. That would be fair.

I have something else to address. Regarding how they treat patients and the intrusion into privacy—regardless of the established boundaries between doctor and patient during care, procedures, or exams—it hasn't exactly reached an enviable standard here in America.
People are forced to strip down and trust any random staff member. They have zero protection from the "hundred eyes" and the constant commentary, especially in OBGYN. For some, the experience during a hospital stay can lead to lasting psychosis or depression, depending on the individual.
Doctor arrogance isn't just about mistakes (everyone slips up); it's about how they carry themselves toward their supposed "end consumer," which is the patient. Their behavior is often appalling. They don't say, "Please prepare for the exam." Instead, a gynecologist at a local clinic might just bark, "Get naked." I've heard of interns crowding a pregnant woman, shoving past her while she was exposed and panicking. There are rude comments directed at elderly women who are perfectly fine, just because some uneducated person finished med school. Or they leave a patient wandering in a hallway, unsure how to even find their ward. During rounds, they mock you openly and laugh at things that aren't funny.

In our hospitals, a patient constantly feels like they've wandered into a concentration camp where only Mengele stands between them and recovery.

That is why people recoil. And yet, in the absence of rational thought, some people still insist on treating them like gods.
Most of them are just ordinary people who fell in love with a calling that doesn't pay well. Everything else is just nonsense we make up. Personally, I would never marry a doctor. You won't end up with a husband, a lover, or a provider; you'll just end up with someone who stays overnight occasionally and tries to compensate for every neglected responsibility with money. That is not a solution.
And don't even get me started on the nurses and the staff on shift with them. If you are a spouse, you are better off staying away from the ward entirely. But I will save that for another time. It might turn out they are great lovers, or they aren't. That's all there is to it. Some of this knowledge comes from firsthand experience during internships in certain facilities, and some comes directly from being a patient.

You totally pivoted from that policy PDF. What happened there? We weren't responding, so the topic died. Now you've found this thread just to vent about doctors. And doing it anonymously from your armchair, too.☕
goldenpilot20 goldenpilot20 Member
22 messages
joined May 2009
#129 ·
My cousin is a registered nurse, and honestly, I think she knows just as much about medicine as most family doctors. She doesn't have a massive library of medical texts, though—from what I’ve seen, there’s really only one book, and it mostly sits around being used by her daughters. One of them already finished nursing school, and the other is just getting started.
ruggedscout91 ruggedscout91 Active Member
63 messages
joined Feb 2010
#130 ·
granitefalcon26 said:You totally pivoted from that policy PDF. What happened there? We weren't responding, so the topic died. Now you've found this thread just to vent about doctors. And doing it anonymously from your armchair, too.☕

No. It's more that you doctors retreated into the safe haven of psychology. I didn't intend to stay angry, but what's worse is that regarding patient treatment—and that whole mess—I am right. Unfortunately. I truly wish I weren't right, or that certain things hadn't happened to me.
My sincere sympathy goes to the responsible physicians who are actually facing impossible situations.
The rest of them? Disgraceful.
granitefalcon26 granitefalcon26 Active Member
193 messages
joined Jan 2015
#131 ·
ruggedscout91 said:No. It's more that you doctors retreated into the safe haven of psychology. I didn't intend to stay angry, but what's worse is that regarding patient treatment—and that whole mess—I am right. Unfortunately. I truly wish I weren't right, or that certain things hadn't happened to me.
My sincere sympathy goes to the responsible physicians who are actually facing impossible situations.
The rest of them? Disgraceful.


If you had just led with that last part, we wouldn't be having this conversation.😉
The way you phrased it makes it sound like you're attacking every single doctor out there. Sure, there are bad apples in every profession, including ours.😉
Just a heads up—the mods here don't allow baseless insults toward other professions.😉
Not that anyone would say that about politics! I didn't run off to psychology; that's my home turf. This is where I feel comfortable.👍
Most of the time, the vibe here is pretty tolerant. We don't go around attacking or insulting each other for no reason. A little sparks fly now and then, but hey, it's an online forum.😉
granitefalcon26 granitefalcon26 Active Member
193 messages
joined Jan 2015
#132 ·
goldenpilot20 said:My cousin is a registered nurse, and honestly, I think she knows just as much about medicine as most family doctors. She doesn't have a massive library of medical texts, though—from what I’ve seen, there’s really only one book, and it mostly sits around being used by her daughters. One of them already finished nursing school, and the other is just getting started.

Okay, I really have to jump in here. Did you know that since 2011, you can't actually practice as a general practitioner in the US without completing a Family Medicine residency? And let me tell you, that is one of the toughest paths you can take. Why? Because you first have to tackle a massive postgraduate residency program.
During that program, you're looking at roughly 40 different exams. Once you clear those, you face a final comprehensive exam that includes both a written portion and an oral exam in front of a three-person board.
After you survive that, the actual residency training begins. You rotate through every single department. You pull night shifts just like every other specialist.
Finally, you have to pass the board certification exam, which is broken down into three parts.
1. A written test
2. A hands-on practical component in a skills lab. It's all live action—everything from inserting catheters to performing full resuscitation.
3. An oral examination before a three-member committee.
To even qualify for that board exam, you basically need to have these subjects memorized in your back pocket:
1. Pharmacology
2. Internal Medicine
3. Pediatrics
4. Neurology
5. Surgery
6. Infectious Diseases
7. Gynecology
So, now please try telling me that a Family Medicine residency is "easy" or that these specialists don't know their stuff. ☕
Nicole Barrett76 Nicole Barrett76 Regular
515 messages
joined Sep 2009
#133 ·
ruggedscout91 said:I was just thinking about why people treat doctors like deities, and I decided to look into it and write something up regarding the way doctors are treated, the constant excuses made for them, and so on.
Of course, we should probably start a separate thread dedicated solely to medical errors; then all the aggrieved patients can line up. That would be fair.

I have something else to address. Regarding how they treat patients and the intrusion into privacy—regardless of the established boundaries between doctor and patient during care, procedures, or exams—it hasn't exactly reached an enviable standard here in America.
People are forced to strip down and trust any random staff member. They have zero protection from the "hundred eyes" and the constant commentary, especially in OBGYN. For some, the experience during a hospital stay can lead to lasting psychosis or depression, depending on the individual.
Doctor arrogance isn't just about mistakes (everyone slips up); it's about how they carry themselves toward their supposed "end consumer," which is the patient. Their behavior is often appalling. They don't say, "Please prepare for the exam." Instead, a gynecologist at a local clinic might just bark, "Get naked." I've heard of interns crowding a pregnant woman, shoving past her while she was exposed and panicking. There are rude comments directed at elderly women who are perfectly fine, just because some uneducated person finished med school. Or they leave a patient wandering in a hallway, unsure how to even find their ward. During rounds, they mock you openly and laugh at things that aren't funny.

In our hospitals, a patient constantly feels like they've wandered into a concentration camp where only Mengele stands between them and recovery.

That is why people recoil. And yet, in the absence of rational thought, some people still insist on treating them like gods.
Most of them are just ordinary people who fell in love with a calling that doesn't pay well. Everything else is just nonsense we make up. Personally, I would never marry a doctor. You won't end up with a husband, a lover, or a provider; you'll just end up with someone who stays overnight occasionally and tries to compensate for every neglected responsibility with money. That is not a solution.
And don't even get me started on the nurses and the staff on shift with them. If you are a spouse, you are better off staying away from the ward entirely. But I will save that for another time. It might turn out they are great lovers, or they aren't. That's all there is to it. Some of this knowledge comes from firsthand experience during internships in certain facilities, and some comes directly from being a patient.

Perhaps I am mistaken, but I would argue that the nurses are often more reasonable and empathetic, even when compared to the female doctors. It seems to me that more doctors tend to treat patients as if they were merely pieces of meat.

Regarding what you mentioned—about doctors lacking basic communication skills, telling people to "just strip," or failing to respect personal boundaries—I believe that was particularly true of the urology department at Mount Sinai. That was the one right by the main entrance. I’m not sure if things have changed since they renovated the complex, but my goodness, it was an absolute nightmare! Patients wouldn't even have time to get properly dressed before the next person was ushered in like they were on a conveyor belt.

Furthermore, I don't think we can separate this discussion regarding why doctors are viewed as superior beings from the constant litany of their professional failures.
Mark Grant11 Mark Grant11 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Feb 2010
#134 ·
I honestly can’t believe my eyes right now. How can you all be so incredibly rude, so primitive, and just sink this low? You’re talking about things you clearly know absolutely nothing about. Seriously, how can anyone claim that a single GP—who covers an entire special care district in the Midwest, looking after 3,000 patients in their home county alone, while basically playing emergency room doctor and covering on-call shifts for everything from minor scrapes to major car wrecks with nothing but a medical bag—can somehow "not know anything"? They pull it off because they’re actually talented and genuinely care about people. So where do you get the nerve to make these comments? We're talking about human beings here, not some machines that just finished grad school. These doctors have families, they have their own problems, and they're constantly carrying everyone else's too. They act as ER docs, psychiatrists, you name it—day or night. Nobody ever stops to ask if they’re okay or if they can even handle it. People just call and scream, "Get over here!" And to make matters worse, when they finally show up at the clinic, patients want to play doctor themselves, trying to prescribe their own meds, travel permits, referrals... as if everyone today thinks they're a specialist, right? I’d love to see someone try to swap places with a person who has to jump at every single whim of so many people. For a paycheck that's barely more than $1667? They have mortgages and massive taxes to deal with, too. You probably think that after ten-plus years of school, residency, and specialization, that salary is "fair" given the responsibility and the grind. And don't even get me started on the worst part. You'll probably get some memo from the Department of Health because a doctor dared to give someone a slightly sideways look. And if we’re going to generalize everyone, we might as well start with the patients. A doctor can be a patient, but a patient can't just become a doctor if they aren't one. Nowadays, any amateur can pretend to be something on paper, but you can't actually be good at something unless you truly are.
OH MY GOD!! Apparently, the majority of retail workers are just "rude" because they don't wish me a sunny good morning the second I walk into a store. SHAME ON THEM!! Honestly, from now on, I’m just going to ignore every single clerk I meet!! You can find anything anywhere, but generalizing everything is just plain stupid and primitive—it drags everything down and gets us nowhere. Since people have "advanced" so much that they supposedly don't need those useless doctors anymore, maybe they could learn how to be decent human beings first. You don't even need a degree for that.
goldenpilot20 goldenpilot20 Member
22 messages
joined May 2009
#135 ·
granitefalcon26 said:Okay, I really have to jump in here. Did you know that since 2011, you can't actually practice as a general practitioner in the US without completing a Family Medicine residency? And let me tell you, that is one of the toughest paths you can take. Why? Because you first have to tackle a massive postgraduate residency program.
During that program, you're looking at roughly 40 different exams. Once you clear those, you face a final comprehensive exam that includes both a written portion and an oral exam in front of a three-person board.
After you survive that, the actual residency training begins. You rotate through every single department. You pull night shifts just like every other specialist.
Finally, you have to pass the board certification exam, which is broken down into three parts.
1. A written test
2. A hands-on practical component in a skills lab. It's all live action—everything from inserting catheters to performing full resuscitation.
3. An oral examination before a three-member committee.
To even qualify for that board exam, you basically need to have these subjects memorized in your back pocket:
1. Pharmacology
2. Internal Medicine
3. Pediatrics
4. Neurology
5. Surgery
6. Infectious Diseases
7. Gynecology
So, now please try telling me that a Family Medicine residency is "easy" or that these specialists don't know their stuff. ☕

Wow, you really went there. It sounds like you think someone who didn't go to medical school—but maybe did nursing school instead—could have roughly the same level of knowledge. That feels pretty condescending to me. And as for Family Medicine? I always thought that just meant the same doctor looks after the whole family, or am I missing something?
granitefalcon26 granitefalcon26 Active Member
193 messages
joined Jan 2015
#136 ·
Mark Grant11 said:I honestly can’t believe my eyes right now. How can you all be so incredibly rude, so primitive, and just sink this low? You’re talking about things you clearly know absolutely nothing about. Seriously, how can anyone claim that a single GP—who covers an entire special care district in the Midwest, looking after 3,000 patients in their home county alone, while basically playing emergency room doctor and covering on-call shifts for everything from minor scrapes to major car wrecks with nothing but a medical bag—can somehow "not know anything"? They pull it off because they’re actually talented and genuinely care about people. So where do you get the nerve to make these comments? We're talking about human beings here, not some machines that just finished grad school. These doctors have families, they have their own problems, and they're constantly carrying everyone else's too. They act as ER docs, psychiatrists, you name it—day or night. Nobody ever stops to ask if they’re okay or if they can even handle it. People just call and scream, "Get over here!" And to make matters worse, when they finally show up at the clinic, patients want to play doctor themselves, trying to prescribe their own meds, travel permits, referrals... as if everyone today thinks they're a specialist, right? I’d love to see someone try to swap places with a person who has to jump at every single whim of so many people. For a paycheck that's barely more than $1667? They have mortgages and massive taxes to deal with, too. You probably think that after ten-plus years of school, residency, and specialization, that salary is "fair" given the responsibility and the grind. And don't even get me started on the worst part. You'll probably get some memo from the Department of Health because a doctor dared to give someone a slightly sideways look. And if we’re going to generalize everyone, we might as well start with the patients. A doctor can be a patient, but a patient can't just become a doctor if they aren't one. Nowadays, any amateur can pretend to be something on paper, but you can't actually be good at something unless you truly are.
OH MY GOD!! Apparently, the majority of retail workers are just "rude" because they don't wish me a sunny good morning the second I walk into a store. SHAME ON THEM!! Honestly, from now on, I’m just going to ignore every single clerk I meet!! You can find anything anywhere, but generalizing everything is just plain stupid and primitive—it drags everything down and gets us nowhere. Since people have "advanced" so much that they supposedly don't need those useless doctors anymore, maybe they could learn how to be decent human beings first. You don't even need a degree for that.

Don't let it get to you. Just let them be.😉 That's how you just give them more fuel to keep mudslinging.
I told a colleague to just ignore the political stuff. Interestingly, I got a strike immediately. They didn't like it when we started ignoring them. But there aren't any more political threads anyway.
Don't read them or react to their rudeness.
That's your best move. The thread will die out. They lose interest if they can't talk amongst themselves.😉
granitefalcon26 granitefalcon26 Active Member
193 messages
joined Jan 2015
#137 ·
goldenpilot20 said:Wow, you really went there. It sounds like you think someone who didn't go to medical school—but maybe did nursing school instead—could have roughly the same level of knowledge. That feels pretty condescending to me. And as for Family Medicine? I always thought that just meant the same doctor looks after the whole family, or am I missing something?

Do you think I could actually get along with my sisters if I didn't constantly look down on them? Probably not. But let’s be real—my sister might have some medical training, but she's never going to hold a candle to an actual MD.
Look, I’m not trying to be condescending here—I'm just stating the facts.☕

General practice isn't really a thing anymore. It’s all about Family Medicine now. The whole goal is to have these doctors look after the entire family unit instead of just treating isolated issues. We're seeing this happen more and more often, especially out in the smaller towns and rural areas.
Nathan Perez5 Nathan Perez5 Member
17 messages
joined Sep 2009
#138 ·
goldenpilot20 said:Wow, you really went there. It sounds like you think someone who didn't go to medical school—but maybe did nursing school instead—could have roughly the same level of knowledge. That feels pretty condescending to me. And as for Family Medicine? I always thought that just meant the same doctor looks after the whole family, or am I missing something?

Comparing the depth of an advanced nurse practitioner's knowledge to that of a physician is honestly pretty immature... everyone goes through their own specific schooling to gain a certain set of skills and carries a specific level of responsibility based on that education. You're probably thinking about the practical skills some of your relatives picked up through years of experience, but experience is really just something built on top of a foundational education, and that foundation for nursing isn't as broad as it is for a doctor. Neither you nor I can sit here and judge the actual competence of a physician because that's something only someone with the same level of education, or perhaps higher, could truly evaluate. I'm aware of that reality, but clearly, you aren't...
goldenpilot20 goldenpilot20 Member
22 messages
joined May 2009
#139 ·
granitefalcon26 said:Do you think I could actually get along with my sisters if I didn't constantly look down on them? Probably not. But let’s be real—my sister might have some medical training, but she's never going to hold a candle to an actual MD.
Look, I’m not trying to be condescending here—I'm just stating the facts.☕

General practice isn't really a thing anymore. It’s all about Family Medicine now. The whole goal is to have these doctors look after the entire family unit instead of just treating isolated issues. We're seeing this happen more and more often, especially out in the smaller towns and rural areas.

Hey, just to clarify, an advanced practice nurse definitely knows more than a standard one. They have to pass extra board exams, and she’s pushing 50. Honestly, she probably knows the most about psychiatry since that's where she works, and she isn't even based in New York City. She even attends conferences with the shrinks. I remember some lady on a forum trying to convince me once that nurses don't have their own conferences, but I didn't even bring that up.
Michael Ortiz68 Michael Ortiz68 Regular
264 messages
joined Oct 2018
#140 ·
ruggedscout91 said:No. It's more that you doctors retreated into the safe haven of psychology. I didn't intend to stay angry, but what's worse is that regarding patient treatment—and that whole mess—I am right. Unfortunately. I truly wish I weren't right, or that certain things hadn't happened to me.
My sincere sympathy goes to the responsible physicians who are actually facing impossible situations.
The rest of them? Disgraceful.

As far as I am aware, this thread was actually started before the one on the New York Times forums.

goldenpilot20 said:My cousin is a registered nurse, and honestly, I think she knows just as much about medicine as most family doctors. She doesn't have a massive library of medical texts, though—from what I’ve seen, there’s really only one book, and it mostly sits around being used by her daughters. One of them already finished nursing school, and the other is just getting started.

It is important to maintain faith.🙄
At the end of the day, we might find that some random guy named Miles actually knows more about medicine than actual primary care physicians.🤣

You must log in or register to reply here.

Log in Register

🔗 Similar threads