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Is permanent happiness actually possible?

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Participants Ronald Rogers27Jonathan Brooks8Maria RichardsonBrenda Cook4Ashley Ramirez41Ashley Robinson58bluewalker33Rebecca Sanders2Brian Foster3amberotter82Thomas Moore6swiftwolf202redtinker36William Gonzalez3Morgan Bishop4Tyler Evans4
William Gonzalez3 William Gonzalez3 Regular
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#41 ·
I suppose you'll have to go ask the animals about that one.
redtinker36 redtinker36 Active Member
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#42 ·
... do they actually have eternal life here on Earth...?
William Gonzalez3 William Gonzalez3 Regular
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#43 ·
I honestly don't know—my cat isn't exactly being forthcoming about it.
redtinker36 redtinker36 Active Member
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#44 ·
.. when it comes to animals .. well .. you don't really grasp anything, do you? .. you can't know if they have a concept of God .. if they actually feel happy .. or if they even understand what death means ..
William Gonzalez3 William Gonzalez3 Regular
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#45 ·
They aren't immortal.
I say that because—well, I can actually feel it, if that makes sense.
Whether they're happy, or whether they even believe in God... I suppose I just don't know.
redtinker36 redtinker36 Active Member
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#46 ·
... trees... they don't live forever either... ¿and as for luck... you never really know, do you?
Ronald Rogers27 Ronald Rogers27 Active MemberOP
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#47 ·
Way too much... You're just philosophizing for the sake of it. 👎 I get where William Gonzalez3 is coming from; he’s just struggling to wrap his head around the actual issue.... 😍

Here's what's tripping me up, though... Honestly, I can't make heads or tails of you. In your version of philosophy, William Gonzalez3 doesn't even exist... Or maybe I missed something important. What is it? 😬

Ronald Rogers27
swiftwolf202 swiftwolf202 Newcomer
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#48 ·
William Gonzalez3 said:bringing your desires into reality.


That’s only true if you mean that ideas come from the brain's natural instinct to finish a synthesis it already started—I've already made that point once before.

So just give me something concrete here. I can't see where your questions are even heading...
William Gonzalez3 William Gonzalez3 Regular
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#49 ·
redtinker36 said:... trees... they don't live forever either... ¿and as for luck... you never really know, do you?

No, I really don't know when it comes to happiness.
Maria Richardson Maria Richardson Newcomer
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#50 ·
Alright, alright, I’ve finally found some peace about who to talk about. 👍 It’s not even like I’m feeling totally zen or anything, more like 😂
I’m just not worked up anymore—it’s less "pure bliss" and more like "wow, I actually have energy again!"
Honestly, it feels pretty good 😁
Morgan Bishop4 Morgan Bishop4 Active Member
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#51 ·
Happiness only really counts because it breaks up the monotony of everyday life... if you were happy every single second of every day, it’d just become the new normal and lose all its spark entirely...

Sometimes I find myself feeling incredibly lucky just to be alive, or even just for grabbing a glass of water or finally hitting the sheets at night... which, let's be honest, happens every single day, so I don't exactly throw a party over it most of the time... it's usually only those rare, standout moments that actually give me that crazy, euphoric rush...

As for this idea of constant happiness... I guess that's basically that peace about who to talk about everyone keeps mentioning... but I still get these bursts of pure joy out of nowhere, like when I'm heading out with my friends or hanging out with my boyfriend... it isn't just some calm feeling, my heart actually starts racing and I can't stop grinning (and no, I'm not talking about being in love... I'm not catching feelings for my buddies)... it's more like... I'll catch my reflection in the mirror and just start laughing and dancing around for no real reason at all, usually right before I head out to somewhere, like 😁 my university classes
...
But honestly, you can't ever reach a state of total peace, perfect happiness, or complete bliss... there's always something weighing on your mind... like, even if you had a private chef and a pantry full of gourmet food, you'd still find some tiny way to worry about what you're eating tomorrow... it's just how we're wired. And something "bad" is bound to happen eventually, which will inevitably stress you out, upset you, or make you feel down... you can't truly wrap your head around what happiness is unless you've lived through the misfortune... you can't understand peace if you've never known what it's like to be restless...
Ronald Rogers27 Ronald Rogers27 Active MemberOP
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#52 ·
Ronald Rogers27 said:Permanent happiness doesn't exist. What actually exists is peace... lasting peace. Very few people ever find it while they're alive, but everyone finds it eventually when they die.

Ronald Rogers27

After everything I've been through... this Peace I'm talking about... this [un]Peace... 🙄

Death is the final answer to the question we all face. And before death, there's just somewhere far away... far, far away, at the furthest point imaginable! 🙂

Ronald Rogers27
Tyler Evans4 Tyler Evans4 Member
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#53 ·
Ronald Rogers27 said:After everything I've been through... this Peace I'm talking about... this [un]Peace... 🙄

Death is the final answer to the question we all face. And before death, there's just somewhere far away... far, far away, at the furthest point imaginable! 🙂

Ronald Rogers27

😉Permanent happiness? No chance. Finding peace by moving to some mountain in Colorado to meditate for the rest of my life? I guess I just prefer the chaos.
As for Death, who knows? Should we summon some ghost and ask if they finally found peace? I bet they’re still wandering around, showing up at some medium's séance just to complain that they haven't found it yet.
Tyler Evans4 Tyler Evans4 Member
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#54 ·
William Gonzalez3 said:I honestly don't know—my cat isn't exactly being forthcoming about it.

🤷Maybe if you asked some hyperactive Doberman about eternal life, he might actually say something, who knows! Cats are just secretive like that.
Ronald Rogers27 Ronald Rogers27 Active MemberOP
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#55 ·
Tyler Evans4 said:😉Permanent happiness? No chance. Finding peace by moving to some mountain in Colorado to meditate for the rest of my life? I guess I just prefer the chaos.
As for Death, who knows? Should we summon some ghost and ask if they finally found peace? I bet they’re still wandering around, showing up at some medium's séance just to complain that they haven't found it yet.

There is no such thing as permanent Trajan Sreca. I know that much. Maybe I’m just kidding myself thinking that kind of fairytale isn't actually a dream. There are substitutes, though. Respect and Trust. 🤷

It’s tough these days to walk the right path and maintain both Trust and Respect. In America, those feel like disappearing concepts. Or at least, they don't last very long. 😍

Regarding your restlessness—you're probably young, maybe under 30, so you feel like Vecna. That restlessness fades as the years pile up. It's not just that people run out of steam; it's that they start to truly grasp the concept of The End.

That's the privilege of the Middle / Late Ages. 😬

Ronald Rogers27
Tyler Evans4 Tyler Evans4 Member
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#56 ·
Ronald Rogers27 said:There is no such thing as permanent Trajan Sreca. I know that much. Maybe I’m just kidding myself thinking that kind of fairytale isn't actually a dream. There are substitutes, though. Respect and Trust. 🤷

It’s tough these days to walk the right path and maintain both Trust and Respect. In America, those feel like disappearing concepts. Or at least, they don't last very long. 😍

Regarding your restlessness—you're probably young, maybe under 30, so you feel like Vecna. That restlessness fades as the years pile up. It's not just that people run out of steam; it's that they start to truly grasp the concept of The End.

That's the privilege of the Middle / Late Ages. 😬

Ronald Rogers27

You basically need a microscope to find respect and trust. I think virtues like those are valued much less today than they were in the past, which makes them rare.
Yeah🙄😛 I'm around 30, and I still haven't reached that peace people in their 60s or 70s seem to have, even though I know some older folks and can tell you they haven't made peace with The End either. Maybe that peace is a state of mind, or maybe it's a privilege reserved for the spiritually advanced.
Ronald Rogers27 Ronald Rogers27 Active MemberOP
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#57 ·
Tyler Evans4 said:You basically need a microscope to find respect and trust. I think virtues like those are valued much less today than they were in the past, which makes them rare.
Yeah🙄😛 I'm around 30, and I still haven't reached that peace people in their 60s or 70s seem to have, even though I know some older folks and can tell you they haven't made peace with The End either. Maybe that peace is a state of mind, or maybe it's a privilege reserved for the spiritually advanced.

When you hit 60 like I did... then you'll finally get what I'm talking about. 😂

That’s exactly what makes long-term relationships actually work. Forget all that "chemistry" and "physics" talk for a second—that stuff burns out fast. You still need a basic foundation of both, sure, but without that core element, you've got nothing. Don't you think? 🤷

I wouldn't call them spiritually enlightened. They're just aggressively proactive about life. But look, if you want the full picture—considering everything going on with your family right now—it’s time to start getting serious about carving out a few years just for you and your partner. 🤣

Ronald Rogers27
Tyler Evans4 Tyler Evans4 Member
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#58 ·
Ronald Rogers27 said:When you hit 60 like I did... then you'll finally get what I'm talking about. 😂

That’s exactly what makes long-term relationships actually work. Forget all that "chemistry" and "physics" talk for a second—that stuff burns out fast. You still need a basic foundation of both, sure, but without that core element, you've got nothing. Don't you think? 🤷

I wouldn't call them spiritually enlightened. They're just aggressively proactive about life. But look, if you want the full picture—considering everything going on with your family right now—it’s time to start getting serious about carving out a few years just for you and your partner. 🤣

Ronald Rogers27


I hope so; I wonder what kind of person I'll be by then!
Truth is, the sparks and the chemistry—that all fades fast.
A few years... maybe it really is just a few years and nothing more!👍
Ronald Rogers27 Ronald Rogers27 Active MemberOP
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#59 ·
Tyler Evans4 said:I hope so; I wonder what kind of person I'll be by then!
Truth is, the sparks and the chemistry—that all fades fast.
A few years... maybe it really is just a few years and nothing more!👍

You'll find out. Maybe in a few years, or even a few decades. Who cares! 😬

Ronald Rogers27
Tyler Evans4 Tyler Evans4 Member
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#60 ·
Ronald Rogers27 said:You'll find out. Maybe in a few years, or even a few decades. Who cares! 😬

Ronald Rogers27

😛who cares, by then I'll be able to answer all these questions about happiness, peace, and whatever else. For now, I'm just gathering experience and theorizing.

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