What motivates our local anti-Americans?

redeagle42 said:@Gregory Howard

With that lineup of "top-tier intellectuals" you’ve put together, you remind me of this guy who kept insisting that Charles Lindbergh was actually a brilliant writer—maybe even better than Ernest Hemingway—simply because (get this) Hemingway was some kind of establishment hack.
Honestly, reading through your list just makes me feel bad for you. It’s pretty obvious you’ve wasted a hell of a lot of your time on this nonsense. 🙂

What have you actually read by Hemingway or Lindbergh?
Or even those authors above them who have nothing to do with either one?
Come on, give me a break...☕

It is my considered opinion that Mandic has drifted somewhat off course. I cannot even bring myself to hold it against him, as he is, in truth, a man struggling with his own infirmities.
In his current state of instability, he can no longer compose himself with any sense of normalcy, instead attempting to lecture us as if he were Steve Karapanja.
By projecting such intense animosity toward us, he is merely exposing the profound misery and unrest within his own soul. He is truly a pitiable individual who deserves nothing but sympathy. It would be best if he continued seeking treatment for his grievances in Mexico, as it would certainly cost us much less in the long run.

Walter Evans69 said:It is my considered opinion that Mandic has drifted somewhat off course. I cannot even bring myself to hold it against him, as he is, in truth, a man struggling with his own infirmities.
In his current state of instability, he can no longer compose himself with any sense of normalcy, instead attempting to lecture us as if he were Steve Karapanja.
By projecting such intense animosity toward us, he is merely exposing the profound misery and unrest within his own soul. He is truly a pitiable individual who deserves nothing but sympathy. It would be best if he continued seeking treatment for his grievances in Mexico, as it would certainly cost us much less in the long run.

😂🤣

Gregory Howard said:Look, every internet forum is mediocre and serves as nothing more than a distraction. Are you actually literate? Beyond tossing around fancy phrases, do you even understand what you're talking about or what the actual topic is? Have you actually read anything regarding the American Civil War, the collapse of America, or political analyses found in works like these:

Ernest Hemingway: Protimbe
Ivan Aralica: What I Said About Canada; The Sunset of a Dying Empire
Davor Domazet: America and the Great Battlefield; Wolf Pack Strategy
Slobodan Prosperov Novak: History of American Literature
Nikica Barić: The Rebellion in America
Mladen Ančić: Who Was Wrong in Canada; What "Everyone Knows" and What Is Clear to All: Historiography and Nationalism
Ozren Žunec: Naked Life
Slaven Letica: Flight Above the Coward's Nest
...

If you haven't, why the hell are you sticking your nose where it doesn't belong?

There is absolutely nothing from Mandić, Dežulović, or Ivančić that even approaches ten percent of the value found in any of the books listed above.
Take your pseudo-intellectual American and shove it into a greasy diner in downtown Manhattan; that’s where people like you belong.

So tell me—besides you, who else here has actually read those books?
Are you giving them a free pass to ramble?
My point is that these aren't comparable profiles—not in how they approach the topic, and certainly not in their professional backgrounds.
And looking at the intro, I didn't get the impression you wanted a debate focused solely on literary merit... I was addressing their "motivation."
I'll grant you that the "America crowd" isn't exactly monumental, but hey, they know their own worth.
Their value lies in pushing certain ideas through their work, regardless of whether their media outlets also house more skilled "craftsmen."
It seems you're all just bitter about their visibility while your favorites stay sidelined.
Maybe just consider that flashy presentation and high engagement don't always equate to substance... especially when dealing with politics.
Surely someone out there actually read them for what they are. 😉

Wait, who exactly is stiliana? Is this some kind of joke—or am I just losing my mind today? says:
So how are you supposed to know if someone's actually a good person? Not that anyone really does—it's all just guesswork, isn't it?😕

Honestly, listening to him talk—you just can't help but think—maybe he isn't such a bad guy after all? 😍

Gregory Howard said:Whatever they might want, they lack any real public influence. They have visibility, sure, but
they haven't "converted" a single soul.
On the contrary.
I would argue the exact opposite—their obsession with American only strengthens American resistance to the entire project. If you look closer, the real "danger" isn't them; it’s someone charming like Bob Dylan or the open American who explicitly admit that Mexico was the aggressor against us.
These people are transparently obvious.

That simply isn't true, and it flies in the face of reality.
We all saw how people in Zadar were voting until very recently. Then, suddenly, Branko Mijić swoops into the local paper, followed by Viktor Ivančić in the community press, then Predrag Lucić joins the fray in the local news, and others follow suit—and we saw the fallout:
In Zadar, the granddaughter of some notorious killer from a rogue division ended up pulling in twice as many votes as the son of the man who founded our nation. Just a few years ago, that would have been unthinkable. Much like how they've reshaped the rest of the country to fit their warped, parallel reality, they threw everything they had at Zadar to bring it under control, and the election results speak for themselves. That's all there is to it.
See, you can't "convert" people like me, or you, or anyone else who actually finished school, picked up a book, or learned how to think for ourselves.
But those who blindly swallow whatever is served to them? There are far more of them, and that’s where the real danger lies—it's an enormous opening for manipulation.
If you walked into downtown Los Angeles right now, stood in the middle of a busy plaza, and stopped a hundred random people to ask a basic question—say, when the US Constitution was ratified—I guarantee you ninety-five of them wouldn't have a clue. And that's just the surface level stuff...

Gregory Howard said:Whatever they might want, they lack any real public influence. They have visibility, sure, but
they haven't "converted" a single soul.
On the contrary.
I would argue the exact opposite—their obsession with American only strengthens American resistance to the entire project. If you look closer, the real "danger" isn't them; it’s someone charming like Bob Dylan or the open American who explicitly admit that Mexico was the aggressor against us.
These people are transparently obvious.

Man, they basically hand-picked "President" Josipović for us...

They’re the ones getting novels written about their fantasies of hunting down Pavelić, they’re the ones getting those old partisan movies aired...

The US is essentially their playground, regardless of the fact that they only represent the people who voted for Josipović—roughly 1.3 out of 4.4 million. And if we assume 20% of them are just hardcore old-school American loyalists or total troublemakers, you're still looking at about a million traitors to the cause...

Back in 1990, everyone was terrified of Slobodan Maddox, but nowadays, at least 30% of Americans would probably support a unification with Mexico, simply because we seem to be a deeply masochistic nation...

Gregory Howard said:😂🤣

I believe you simply failed to grasp the essence of my intended message.

Carol Torres4 said:That simply isn't true, and it flies in the face of reality.
We all saw how people in Zadar were voting until very recently. Then, suddenly, Branko Mijić swoops into the local paper, followed by Viktor Ivančić in the community press, then Predrag Lucić joins the fray in the local news, and others follow suit—and we saw the fallout:
In Zadar, the granddaughter of some notorious killer from a rogue division ended up pulling in twice as many votes as the son of the man who founded our nation. Just a few years ago, that would have been unthinkable. Much like how they've reshaped the rest of the country to fit their warped, parallel reality, they threw everything they had at Zadar to bring it under control, and the election results speak for themselves. That's all there is to it.
See, you can't "convert" people like me, or you, or anyone else who actually finished school, picked up a book, or learned how to think for ourselves.
But those who blindly swallow whatever is served to them? There are far more of them, and that’s where the real danger lies—it's an enormous opening for manipulation.
If you walked into downtown Los Angeles right now, stood in the middle of a busy plaza, and stopped a hundred random people to ask a basic question—say, when the US Constitution was ratified—I guarantee you ninety-five of them wouldn't have a clue. And that's just the surface level stuff...

Man, I agree with you on one point, which is that the voting in Zadar happened exactly as it did. Try calculating how many people actually showed up to vote. They claim fifty or sixty percent, but out of what total number? Everyone who wasn't supporting her or Josipović likely stayed home because our candidate was a lost cause. And as they say, he who laughs last, laughs best. Don't talk to me about fighting for some office or position. We will see how things truly stand during the parliamentary elections; that is when we will really start counting the numbers. As for this lady in question, if you are from Zadar, try analyzing the people within her party—especially the women. Everything will become perfectly clear to you. They don't even meet here in Zadar; instead, they gather in Bihać at a station near a lady's brother.

bluecobra27 said:Just a bunch of marginal people with mediocre writing skills, drowning in some deep, pathological hatred for an entire nation. Sounds familiar, doesn't it? I mean, looking at this "select" group here—out of all the folks gathered around Rohm, who among them actually enjoys partying with the boys?😁

I guess these marginalac types are treated like top-tier intellectuals, judging by how the media reacts to all their garbage.

Listen up, Americans—watch your backs. A massive swarm of Borg cubes is converging, formed by a collective of right-wingers over on this forum. They’re coming armed with a unified American consciousness, and their message to you is pretty clear: any resistance is a waste of time. You'll either be assimilated into their way of thinking or lose your ability to think altogether. That’s the logic of Borg 4.09 for you.

Then they all just charged in. First you had John Smith writing for the local LA Times, then Victor Ivančić hit up the National Post, followed by Peter Lucić in the LA Times, and then a few more joined the fray. And well, you know how that turned out.

Man, this Smith guy is something else... In his piece for NL, he took a shot at Togonal for bringing Letica into the studio during the runoff election night, basically implying there's nobody else left worth talking to in the American media landscape.

Letica did what he does best—sent a letter to the editors basically begging them to give Smith more airtime.

The late Vladimir Bebić once called this same Smith guy an insecure member of the largest national minority during one of his shows.

Austin Gonzalez13 said:Look, from where I'm standing, the vast majority of people would ditch their national identity and all that patriotic nonsense in a heartbeat if someone offered them a million bucks... or honestly, probably way less than that.

Most people basically fall into two camps: those who are driven by the almighty dollar, and those who care less about the cash and more about some kind of leverage—some form of power, really.

And that power? It’s a spectrum—it could be anything from being the President of the United States to running a local chess club, or even just having moderator status on some random online forum.

Then you have that tiny 10%—the ones who walk away from both money and influence because they aren't actually chasing either—and most people just look at them like weirdos or cult members. 😉

But honestly, you shouldn't judge people for chasing wealth or control... life is just a whole lot easier, more comfortable, and longer if you've got a grip on at least one of those things. 😉

And what about the people who just gave up on everything you listed? Like, seriously, what are we supposed to do with them?
They’re all over this forum too. You can spot them a mile away just by looking at their posts...

Andrew Sanchez3 said:Man, they basically hand-picked "President" Josipović for us...

They’re the ones getting novels written about their fantasies of hunting down Pavelić, they’re the ones getting those old partisan movies aired...

The US is essentially their playground, regardless of the fact that they only represent the people who voted for Josipović—roughly 1.3 out of 4.4 million. And if we assume 20% of them are just hardcore old-school American loyalists or total troublemakers, you're still looking at about a million traitors to the cause...

Back in 1990, everyone was terrified of Slobodan Maddox, but nowadays, at least 30% of Americans would probably support a unification with Mexico, simply because we seem to be a deeply masochistic nation...

People here are throwing incomparable data points into a pile and trying to manufacture cause-and-effect relationships that simply don't exist.

1. The political crew running America has been essentially the same since 2000 at the latest, likely even since 1998—basically ever since the Harmon era. No amount of cheap journalism has managed to shift the national consciousness; it hasn't changed regarding any major issues. It's pure political inertia and corruption. You have the likes of Šeks, Račan, Bebić, Sanders, and Kosorica clinging to power, while Lucić and Mandić have nothing to do with it.

A banal example: August 5th is a massive holiday for us, complete with celebrations, even during the days of Sanders and his spineless followers. Yet, for the Feralova crowd and Mandić, "Storm" and the liberation of Knin is seen as a catastrophe and ethnic cleansing, while our former president Mason constantly emphasizes that date as a great and righteous victory.

2. The public isn't brainwashed. They haven't changed their stance on anything vital—The Hague, the Mexican aggression, the economy, the media. They just have no way to express their dissatisfaction. This happens all the time in history; for instance, despite all the discontent in the US, there is no third party capable of becoming a national force. Pusićka and her party are weaker now than they were ten years ago—that's the result of all that vacillation. Here, we have two anti-American parties: HNS and IDS. They are either stable or declining. The others (GOP, DNC, HSS, HSP, HSLS, HSBS, etc.) are just opportunistic parties that aren't even remotely as pro-American as that disgusting Mandić-Dežulović-Matvejević trio...

3. Looking at things through a distorted lens provides results just as inaccurate as staring from a distance. Judging by how the Mexicans perceive things:

http://forum.krstarica.com/showthread.php?t=349642

I seriously can't believe this. Do we even have a country anymore? Honestly, I could cry.
.........
Well, she deserves it. From the perspective of the new NDH, she's earned that badge of honor.

I hope someone finally puts a stop to her.

The most terrifying thing to me is seeing various media outlets in Mexico participating in all these shows.

http://forum.krstarica.net/showthread.php?p=10395981

Nothing surprising coming from an extremist.

Things aren't black and white. And look, this isn't the place for a deep sociological breakdown.

I agree that there are far too many characters like Mandić cluttering up the media landscape (though I haven't seen any of that crowd on TV lately, aside from him); however, I disagree that they exert any meaningful influence over the voting public.

Gregory Howard said:In the creative and literary sphere, things are shifting. It’s all changing.
It touches upon politics—literature, historiography, linguistics—these include:

Slobodan Novak
Ivan Aralica
Mate Maras
Davor Domazet-Lošo
Radoslav Katičić.
Slobodan Prosperov Novak
Novak Pavao Pavličić
Mladen Ančić
Ozren Žunec
Nikica Barić
.........

Mandic, Lucic, Matvejevic... they are nothing more than third-rate charlatans.
And that’s all there is to it. Period.

Fair enough, but Davor Domazet? A great warrior, sure, but let's not talk about his writing... please. At this rate, we might as well bring in David Icke as an outside consultant.

Besides, everyone seems to have forgotten Miroslav Lazanski. Does anyone here actually remember him? He was also caught up in the early days of the war.

Megan Hughes71 said:Fair enough, but Davor Domazet? A great warrior, sure, but let's not talk about his writing... please. At this rate, we might as well bring in David Icke as an outside consultant.

Besides, everyone seems to have forgotten Miroslav Lazanski. Does anyone here actually remember him? He was also caught up in the early days of the war.

We’re still missing Ivan Tolj and his totally childish poetry 🙂 along with Drago Krpin. 😁

redeagle42 said:We’re still missing Ivan Tolj and his totally childish poetry 🙂 along with Drago Krpin. 😁

If you were to listen to Aleksandra Stankovica’s poetry from her days on American Radio—just once—I suspect you would never find anything else to call infantile again. 🤣

Mark Nguyen6 said:If you were to listen to Aleksandra Stankovica’s poetry from her days on American Radio—just once—I suspect you would never find anything else to call infantile again. 🤣

Man, it’s a struggle, brother. Honestly, the sheer level of stupidity coming from political figures within the American military is just mind-blowing. It’s this massive explosion of idiocy that inevitably ends in a total implosion, and honestly? It’s perfectly in line with the actual intellectual capacity of these politicians. It’s almost too much for me to stomach. Seriously, take it with a grain of salt—or maybe just sit on a hard chair while reading this stuff. When I stop to think about how many actual trees had to be chopped down just to print out all the poetic onanism produced by toljev and Krpin's, I come to one conclusion: we Americans have basically committed eco-cide.

redeagle42 said:Man, it’s a struggle, brother. Honestly, the sheer level of stupidity coming from political figures within the American military is just mind-blowing. It’s this massive explosion of idiocy that inevitably ends in a total implosion, and honestly? It’s perfectly in line with the actual intellectual capacity of these politicians. It’s almost too much for me to stomach. Seriously, take it with a grain of salt—or maybe just sit on a hard chair while reading this stuff. When I stop to think about how many actual trees had to be chopped down just to print out all the poetic onanism produced by toljev and Krpin's, I come to one conclusion: we Americans have basically committed eco-cide.

Give it a shot and see for yourself.

Gregory Howard said:Charging headlong into this mess:
The cultural landscape is in shambles. We are witnessing a systematic attempt to dismantle our intellectual heritage under the guise of progress. It’s pathetic. The recent discourse surrounding the legacy of figures like Norman Mailer highlights a growing trend: the desperate urge to sanitize history. Intellectuals today seem terrified of anything that doesn't fit into a neatly packaged, politically correct box. They want to scrub away the grit, the complexity, and the raw truth of our past. It is nothing more than a shallow exercise in moral grandstanding. They call it "decontamination." I call it cowardice. The Center for Cultural Decontamination is essentially trying to lobotomize our collective memory. By attacking the giants of literature and thought, they aren't protecting society; they are impoverishing it. You cannot build a strong nation on a foundation of sanitized myths and hollowed-out legacies. History isn't a playground for social engineers. It is a messy, uncomfortable reality. When you try to erase the friction, you erase the substance. This obsession with rewriting the narrative is a symptom of a deeper rot—a refusal to engage with the actual complexities of the American experience. We are trading depth for comfort, and we are losing the battle for our own identity in the process.

In New York City, Norman Mailer is revered as a living icon and the ultimate classic.

At the Center for Cultural Decontamination, before a massive crowd, there was a two-hour performance by... Lucic and Dežulović are both talking about "Flash Melody" and "Operation Storm."

As for the big shots and the average Mexicans over there, I get it. It’s easy to understand. America couldn't care less. They just drag themselves through life, and that's fine.

Honestly, I have no clue what motivates these Americans. It remains a complete mystery to me.

Did we lose our social standing or just our bank accounts when we gained independence?

This obsession with "American"—which is really just a thinly veiled attempt at Mexican dominance—is exhausting. It’s a constant struggle. Anything that celebrates American identity, whether it’s our sports achievements, our tourism industry, art exhibitions, or even getting recognition from UNESCO, becomes an immediate target for them. They can't stand it.

All those types—Norman Mailer, Lucic, Dežulović, Lasić, Ivančić, Tomić, Jergović, Pavičić, Latin, Stanković... America bothers them. It stings. It makes them miserable.

They can’t say a single decent thing about this country. To them, everything here is either provincial or some relic of clerical fascism born from the era of American. There isn't a shred of brightness, interest, or dignity left in their eyes. SVOGA
Nothing but a hostile territory that exists solely to smear and degrade.

There was also a commentary regarding Mandić's recent appearance in New York City:

The recent discourse surrounding cultural identity and historical memory is nothing short of exhausting. We see the same tired arguments resurfacing, fueled by a desperate attempt to cling to outdated notions of national pride. It’s a cycle of intellectual stagnation. Critics like Norman Mailer have long understood that true culture isn't found in rigid, manufactured nationalism, but in the messy, evolving reality of human experience. Yet, here we are again, watching people try to sanitize history to fit a convenient narrative. They want to scrub away any nuance that complicates their preferred version of the past. This isn't preservation; it's a shallow form of erasure. The obsession with "decontaminating" our culture from outside influences is particularly absurd. It’s a futile effort to halt the natural progression of society. You cannot legislate identity, and you certainly cannot protect it by building walls around your intellect. Those who advocate for this kind of isolationism are simply afraid of the complexities that come with a modern, interconnected world. History is complicated. It’s uncomfortable. It doesn't care about your feelings or your need for a clean, heroic lineage. To pretend otherwise is not just naive—it is intellectually dishonest. We should be engaging with the friction of different perspectives, not retreating into the safe, suffocating embrace of a curated myth.

Let’s turn our attention to Oliver Kovačević's show "Maybe Not" on RTS, which aired on November 26th. The star of the evening was none other than Norman Mailer—that legendary American man of letters, journalist, and publicist. Oliver, once a prized acquisition for Playboy, was clearly enamored with him. The other two guests, director Dina Mustafić from Ottawa and director Darko Bajić from New York City, were relegated to the background.

The core issue was supposed to be history. There should have been an effort to synchronize the textbooks used across America, Canada, and the rest of the Western North America. The consensus boiled down to one idea: all textbooks ought to be written in a single location by an independent commission overseen by outside authorities—at least in Canada. Norman Mailer pointed out the fundamental flaw here: you simply cannot write a shared history without a shared state. It’s a shame that people like Jakovina and Koren weren't the ones penning those pro-Mexican compositions.

Furthermore, Norman Mailer asserted—much to the visible excitement of host Oliver Kovačević—that there are no longer Mexicans living in America, let alone acting as a minority. "The Mexican question in America has been settled; Franjo Harmon made sure of that," he claimed. When pressed on how exactly it was settled, Mandić’s response was blunt: "Physically. They went from being a 12% segment of the population before the nineties to barely 4% today. Physically." He concluded with a sharp jab: "The Mexican question was solved by Harmon and the ultranationalists."

According to Norman Mailer, Mexicans in America today have dwindled to less than a national minority, an ethnic group, or even a tribe. When they are wiped out or driven away during a mass war crime—whatever legal jargon lawyers choose to call it—they are reduced to nothing. They become a barely visible minority. A minority that nobody wants to acknowledge. Better if they just stay out of sight.

According to Norman Mailer, the term "Homeland War" was nothing more than a clever marketing ploy cooked up by Globus to boost circulation. Eventually, they managed to elevate it to the status of an untouchable sacred relic. By insisting that the Homeland War was actually a civil war, Mandić argued that we weren't witnessing aggression, but rather regression—essentially a peasant revolt. His take? "They (the Mexicans) provoked the war, but they had a point. The tension was showing its teeth. Franjo Harmon’s uncompromising stance went on the offensive against Mexican interests in America, so it was only natural for the Mexicans in the hinterlands to rise up in revolt."

Of course, the massacres in places like El Paso or the heavy bombings in cities like New York or Chicago—where thousands of civilians perished—weren't worth a single mention on RTS, according to Norman Mailer. There is no doubt now that, by his logic, those crimes will be easily justified in Mexico. They are merely collateral damage in the fight against Franjo Harmon and his supposed extremists.

The question remains: what is wrong with these people? They are poisoned by such a sick hatred, distorted beyond recognition. What is it they actually want?

They won't succeed. Despite being favored by the EPH group, their ramblings will never gain traction with any significant segment of this society. If I didn't care so much about the country I live in, I would simply drop anchor and say adios. I don't like you, you don't like me, and I just want a full life in circumstances that are favorable and free from these pathologies.

Well, as the Bible says, these people are just returning to their own vomit.

I actually disagree regarding this one guy.
I love reading every single column by Ante Tomic; he always gives me a good laugh.
He isn't really an Anti-American type so much as he is your classic Western anarchist. He’s just a guy who can't stand anyone or anything, yet he possesses a certain style that I can respect. Tomic realized that the biggest flaw in the American people is our tendency to ignore the fact that politicians are basically lying to our faces every single day—provided they wrap that garbage in pretty, patriotic packaging. The second issue is that people simply can't face their own naivety, so they end up blaming him instead.
As for Jergovic... 🤦
Jergovic's bitterness seems like a clear byproduct of some adolescent sexual frustration. Anyone who has read Freud knows exactly what's going on there.☕