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What motivates our local anti-Americans?

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redeagle42 redeagle42 Member
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#81 ·
urbanmarlin8 said:I actually disagree regarding this one guy.
I love reading every single column by Ante Tomic; he always gives me a good laugh.
He isn't really an Anti-American type so much as he is your classic Western anarchist. He’s just a guy who can't stand anyone or anything, yet he possesses a certain style that I can respect. Tomic realized that the biggest flaw in the American people is our tendency to ignore the fact that politicians are basically lying to our faces every single day—provided they wrap that garbage in pretty, patriotic packaging. The second issue is that people simply can't face their own naivety, so they end up blaming him instead.
As for Jergovic... 🤦
Jergovic's bitterness seems like a clear byproduct of some adolescent sexual frustration. Anyone who has read Freud knows exactly what's going on there.☕

Tomic is a legend. Even if it's true that when you compare some of his pieces, he can hold two diametrically opposed views on the exact same topic in two different columns. Other than that, Tomic is top-tier. And honestly, it bugs me too—how all these losers love to wrap themselves in the flag to hide what they really are.
Megan Hughes71 Megan Hughes71 Member
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#82 ·
urbanmarlin8 said:I actually disagree regarding this one guy.
I love reading every single column by Ante Tomic; he always gives me a good laugh.
He isn't really an Anti-American type so much as he is your classic Western anarchist. He’s just a guy who can't stand anyone or anything, yet he possesses a certain style that I can respect. Tomic realized that the biggest flaw in the American people is our tendency to ignore the fact that politicians are basically lying to our faces every single day—provided they wrap that garbage in pretty, patriotic packaging. The second issue is that people simply can't face their own naivety, so they end up blaming him instead.
As for Jergovic... 🤦
Jergovic's bitterness seems like a clear byproduct of some adolescent sexual frustration. Anyone who has read Freud knows exactly what's going on there.☕

Same here. Sometimes Tomic goes too far, sure, but when he criticizes something, it isn't vulgar or mindless trash like some gutter-dwelling agitator shouting next to a fuse.
Kudos to him. At least Tomic has style and writes well.
Mark Nguyen6 Mark Nguyen6 Active Member
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#83 ·
urbanmarlin8 said:I actually disagree regarding this one guy.
I love reading every single column by Ante Tomic; he always gives me a good laugh.
He isn't really an Anti-American type so much as he is your classic Western anarchist. He’s just a guy who can't stand anyone or anything, yet he possesses a certain style that I can respect. Tomic realized that the biggest flaw in the American people is our tendency to ignore the fact that politicians are basically lying to our faces every single day—provided they wrap that garbage in pretty, patriotic packaging. The second issue is that people simply can't face their own naivety, so they end up blaming him instead.
As for Jergovic... 🤦
Jergovic's bitterness seems like a clear byproduct of some adolescent sexual frustration. Anyone who has read Freud knows exactly what's going on there.☕

So, he’s now playing on an even deeper weakness of ours—the fact that we tend to look the other way when pseudo-intellectuals feed us the same garbage, as long as they can dress it up in fancy rhetoric and claim, "Well, this happens everywhere else too." For instance, calling anarchism a valid excuse.

It's just typical small-town mentality—people who can't seem to come up with a single constructive thought all week without finding something to mock instead. I mean, my grandmother could do better than that.

I wonder what Freud would have to say about those who insist on living in an environment they constantly ridicule, only to start acting like grumpy old men with back pain while they're still in their thirties?
Hannah Hill3 Hannah Hill3 Member
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#84 ·
@ Hrobatos; If I’m being naive, then you’re just plain slow.

It is quite comical that you claim identity is static.

I honestly don't know how to address your perceptions. Do you truly believe your ancestors migrated from Persia 2,000 years ago?!!
redeagle42 redeagle42 Member
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#85 ·
Hannah Hill3 said:@ Hrobatos; If I’m being naive, then you’re just plain slow.

It is quite comical that you claim identity is static.

I honestly don't know how to address your perceptions. Do you truly believe your ancestors migrated from Persia 2,000 years ago?!!

Man, Hrobatos is totally tripping out on some paranoid North American spy nonsense. Based on what we learn from our own recent history, he probably has that whole "pure bloodline" complex going on. And you know who had that exact same issue? Vojislav Dr Seselj. In the end, it turned out that Vojislav Dr Seselj wasn't exactly a pure Mexican himself. So, I totally get why Hrobatos acts like such a wannabe 100% pure American.

Seriously Hrobatos, come on—it’s pretty pathetic to be digging up roots from over the border three or four generations back. It’s not like you had any say in where or to whom you were born, right?
Karen Rodriguez3 Karen Rodriguez3 Active Member
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#86 ·
Mark Nguyen6 said:So, he’s now playing on an even deeper weakness of ours—the fact that we tend to look the other way when pseudo-intellectuals feed us the same garbage, as long as they can dress it up in fancy rhetoric and claim, "Well, this happens everywhere else too." For instance, calling anarchism a valid excuse.

It's just typical small-town mentality—people who can't seem to come up with a single constructive thought all week without finding something to mock instead. I mean, my grandmother could do better than that.

I wonder what Freud would have to say about those who insist on living in an environment they constantly ridicule, only to start acting like grumpy old men with back pain while they're still in their thirties?

I mean, historically, the whole point of intellectuals has always been to point out flaws and critique individuals, society, and general values.
Since we're constantly being fed garbage presented as gospel—from the government down to the church—the only people actually capable of looking at things critically or making fun of them are the ones who stand out. And yeah, maybe that's why they get under our skin.
velvetmaker3 velvetmaker3 Regular
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#87 ·
Some of them are just obsessed with the old USA, while others were simply raised during the era of the USA and grew up terrified of being patriotic or embracing the idea of an independent American nation.
The latter group is actually the largest, and you can find plenty of them on this forum. That was the whole point of the propaganda used between WW2 and the present day—to manipulate Americans into fearing their own sovereignty, their identity, and their sense of national pride.
Even some of the younger crowd, who weren't even raised under the old system, seem to have developed these views. It would be interesting to figure out how they ended up that way.
redeagle42 redeagle42 Member
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#88 ·
Karen Rodriguez3 said:I mean, historically, the whole point of intellectuals has always been to point out flaws and critique individuals, society, and general values.
Since we're constantly being fed garbage presented as gospel—from the government down to the church—the only people actually capable of looking at things critically or making fun of them are the ones who stand out. And yeah, maybe that's why they get under our skin.

Here in the States, we’ve got this massive, long-standing tradition of basically throwing stones at anyone who thinks too hard. 🙂If you come at them with a pen, they’ll hit you back with a rock, a club, or whatever else they can find—it’s a brutal cycle, let me tell you. 🙂

It’s just like that Canadian guy said in "Kajmak and Jam": "You guys with the fancy last names, you're all exactly the same." 🙂
redeagle42 redeagle42 Member
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#89 ·
velvetmaker3 said:Some of them are just obsessed with the old USA, while others were simply raised during the era of the USA and grew up terrified of being patriotic or embracing the idea of an independent American nation.
The latter group is actually the largest, and you can find plenty of them on this forum. That was the whole point of the propaganda used between WW2 and the present day—to manipulate Americans into fearing their own sovereignty, their identity, and their sense of national pride.
Even some of the younger crowd, who weren't even raised under the old system, seem to have developed these views. It would be interesting to figure out how they ended up that way.

Look, I’m gonna be a little blunt with you since I have to reply to your post: Just stop talking nonsense.
velvetmaker3 velvetmaker3 Regular
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#90 ·
redeagle42 said:Look, I’m gonna be a little blunt with you since I have to reply to your post: Just stop talking nonsense.


Which part of that actually applied to you?
Timothy Anderson48 Timothy Anderson48 Member
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#91 ·
velvetmaker3 said:Which part of that actually applied to you?

People just do what they want.😁
Kevin Gonzalez79 Kevin Gonzalez79 Active Member
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#92 ·
It is my observation that certain individuals hide their blatant corruption behind a thin veil of faux-patriotism. They resort to labeling any dissent as un-American or labeling opponents as communists to deflect from their own malfeasance. Frankly, you are becoming tedious; these archaic insults have long since lost their sting.
bluecobra27 bluecobra27 Active Member
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#93 ·
Karen Rodriguez3 said:I mean, historically, the whole point of intellectuals has always been to point out flaws and critique individuals, society, and general values.
Since we're constantly being fed garbage presented as gospel—from the government down to the church—the only people actually capable of looking at things critically or making fun of them are the ones who stand out. And yeah, maybe that's why they get under our skin.

You've got a point, but let’s be real about these losers posting here. They aren't offering a critical look at society or individuals; they are just peddling pure negation of every value this country stands for. Objective criticism? Sure, that's useful. But using "criticism" as a mask to vent your own personal frustrations and bitterness? That’s just hypocrisy. It reminds me of those tired old tropes where everyone is suddenly a crook and somehow managed to ruin one lone genius. It’s always the same story: claiming we are all inherently dishonest while pretending everyone else was responsible for building someone like Tesla. Honestly, this kind of hatred isn't even deep; it's just shallow. Is this what passes for "critical analysis" now? You have some guy from Chicago trying to write about the Storm, yet he’s the same type of person who participates in plays celebrating it despite being part of the very issues he claims to despise. Please, spare me the "critical perspective." And as for Mandic? He’s just a broken old man, worn down by age and personal tragedy, wandering around talking about the Deep State as if Americans were the ones who caused all the trouble. A man clinging to the ghost of some old authority isn't an intellectual anymore; he's just an old man life beat down, and frankly, you can only feel sorry for him.
Karen Rodriguez3 Karen Rodriguez3 Active Member
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#94 ·
Yeah. But then there’s always those people who just don't get it. Usually, they act like this because, I don't know, people around here tend to take any kind of criticism as a direct attack on their patriotism or their way of life...
Do you actually have to be some kind of genius just to grasp what an intellectual is trying to say?
I mean, can these intellectuals ever just step down from their high horses for a second and let regular folks see things from their perspective?
Because, honestly, most people are just scared of whatever they can't wrap their heads around.
Mark Nguyen6 Mark Nguyen6 Active Member
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#95 ·
Karen Rodriguez3 said:I mean, historically, the whole point of intellectuals has always been to point out flaws and critique individuals, society, and general values.
Since we're constantly being fed garbage presented as gospel—from the government down to the church—the only people actually capable of looking at things critically or making fun of them are the ones who stand out. And yeah, maybe that's why they get under our skin.

I certainly agree with that, though I suppose I would make a distinction between mere contrarianism and actual critique.
When being critical becomes an absolute rule without exception, it feels less like meaningful intellectual engagement and more like simple agitation—especially when some of the arguments presented in the name of "critique" border on the absurd.

At least, that is my take on it.
Gregory Howard Gregory Howard Active MemberOP
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#96 ·
Megan Hughes71 said:Fair enough, but Davor Domazet? A great warrior, sure, but let's not talk about his writing... please. At this rate, we might as well bring in David Icke as an outside consultant.

Besides, everyone seems to have forgotten Miroslav Lazanski. Does anyone here actually remember him? He was also caught up in the early days of the war.

Domazet wrote two exceptional books: America and the Great Battlefield, and the wolf pack strategy. His other two works are nothing more than conspiracy theories and lack any real credibility, but those two are journalistic masterpieces.
Gregory Howard Gregory Howard Active MemberOP
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#97 ·
urbanmarlin8 said:I actually disagree regarding this one guy.
I love reading every single column by Ante Tomic; he always gives me a good laugh.
He isn't really an Anti-American type so much as he is your classic Western anarchist. He’s just a guy who can't stand anyone or anything, yet he possesses a certain style that I can respect. Tomic realized that the biggest flaw in the American people is our tendency to ignore the fact that politicians are basically lying to our faces every single day—provided they wrap that garbage in pretty, patriotic packaging. The second issue is that people simply can't face their own naivety, so they end up blaming him instead.
As for Jergovic... 🤦
Jergovic's bitterness seems like a clear byproduct of some adolescent sexual frustration. Anyone who has read Freud knows exactly what's going on there.☕

That "Western anarchist" thought certain extremist militias were charming folklore, while viewing mainstream radicals as a constant threat.
Spare me the nonsense. Tomić is nothing more than a typical fringe lunatic.
Timothy Anderson48 Timothy Anderson48 Member
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#98 ·
Kevin Gonzalez79 said:It is my observation that certain individuals hide their blatant corruption behind a thin veil of faux-patriotism. They resort to labeling any dissent as un-American or labeling opponents as communists to deflect from their own malfeasance. Frankly, you are becoming tedious; these archaic insults have long since lost their sting.

Same goes for the "modern" types. They hide their own shady dealings behind labels like regressive or extremist. Honestly, you're getting old with those outdated insults.
Gregory Howard Gregory Howard Active MemberOP
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#99 ·
Karen Rodriguez3 said:Yeah. But then there’s always those people who just don't get it. Usually, they act like this because, I don't know, people around here tend to take any kind of criticism as a direct attack on their patriotism or their way of life...
Do you actually have to be some kind of genius just to grasp what an intellectual is trying to say?
I mean, can these intellectuals ever just step down from their high horses for a second and let regular folks see things from their perspective?
Because, honestly, most people are just scared of whatever they can't wrap their heads around.

What exactly are you talking about? What "intellectuals"? On what basis are you even bringing up Tomić?
"Intellectual," they say? Please. Give me a break.
He’s nothing more than a low-rent hack and a pulp novelist who spends his days venting his petty frustrations onto the page. A complete joke.
A news organization pays for that kind of nonsense because it suits their agenda.
Tomić is uneducated. When he insults a judge like that, his lack of breeding becomes painfully obvious.
He lacks any grasp of theology or religious culture as a whole. He’s functionally illiterate when it comes to the subject.
He starts lecturing about linguistics. It’s obvious he hasn't spent a single second studying actual linguistic history. He's completely lost.
A meager, tedious vocabulary. A mental framework measured in millimeters.
He can’t say a single word about society, history, cinema, or science. Nothing.
He’s just a glorified shepherd with a degree. A rambling, hollow imitation of Luka Bebić.
Timothy Anderson48 Timothy Anderson48 Member
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#100 ·
Gregory Howard said:That "Western anarchist" thought certain extremist militias were charming folklore, while viewing mainstream radicals as a constant threat.
Spare me the nonsense. Tomić is nothing more than a typical fringe lunatic.

I don't know about that. He’s actually got the most talent for writing out of all those hacks. Which probably makes him the most dangerous one.

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