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Dealing with jealousy

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stormyheron20 stormyheron20 Member
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joined Aug 2008
#161 ·
steeltiger2 said:He’s worried🤷

It isn't the right time, because this is the 10,001st "colleague." Every single time, I end up blowing things out of proportion—at least, that’s how it’s always been until now.

I’m having a hard time following your situation. It's obvious you're incredibly jealous, but I don't think you're doing it without reason. Your boyfriend's behavior strikes me as odd. You might be overreacting to some things, sure, but I get the impression he isn't doing much to help you find some peace. Brittany, how long do you honestly think you can keep living like this, feeling so broken?
Worried how? Did you actually sit down and talk through this, or did you just spiral into gloom and assumptions?
A lot of people have told you the problem is you because you're too jealous. I'll admit your jealousy issues are significant, but I don't agree that they are the sole cause of everything falling apart.
You didn't mention your father; you just implied he wasn't in the picture. If you don't want to go there, fine. I won't force you to answer something you aren't ready to discuss.
The reason I ask about your father is because you mentioned lacking both male friends and a father figure. Since you seem willing to change your flaws, we probably need to understand where all this insecurity and jealousy stems from. I hope you find some way to settle down, and that your boyfriend helps you through it.
steeltiger2 steeltiger2 MemberOP
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joined Nov 2009
#162 ·
stormyheron20 said:I’m having a hard time following your situation. It's obvious you're incredibly jealous, but I don't think you're doing it without reason. Your boyfriend's behavior strikes me as odd. You might be overreacting to some things, sure, but I get the impression he isn't doing much to help you find some peace. Brittany, how long do you honestly think you can keep living like this, feeling so broken?
Worried how? Did you actually sit down and talk through this, or did you just spiral into gloom and assumptions?
A lot of people have told you the problem is you because you're too jealous. I'll admit your jealousy issues are significant, but I don't agree that they are the sole cause of everything falling apart.
You didn't mention your father; you just implied he wasn't in the picture. If you don't want to go there, fine. I won't force you to answer something you aren't ready to discuss.
The reason I ask about your father is because you mentioned lacking both male friends and a father figure. Since you seem willing to change your flaws, we probably need to understand where all this insecurity and jealousy stems from. I hope you find some way to settle down, and that your boyfriend helps you through it.

Well, I don't really have much connection to the world of men, nothing close anyway. It feels strange being this close to someone now; maybe I just want him all to myself, perhaps because I find protection and security in him. Maybe it's even a little bit like what I missed from a father, but that’s getting into deep psychology, and honestly, all I can say is that I miss my dad.
My boyfriend tells me that he can't not communicate with just about any woman because of how jealous I am. He says I need to act more maturely and that it hurts him that I don't trust him—that I think he's a jerk sometimes.
He said there will always be someone else I'll obviously be crazy about, but that he only loves me... I don't know, I really don't know why I can't believe him. He’s a good guy normally, and I don't think he's a bad person. But I can't stop worrying; it's like I'm not even normal. I start remembering everything, connecting dots that he doesn't even remember mentioning. I build these theories, analyzing everything from every possible angle. You wonder how I even manage to live like this? It just happens. It all hits me at once, incredibly fast.
steeltiger2 steeltiger2 MemberOP
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joined Nov 2009
#163 ·
I honestly can’t believe it...
I was just about to send Cherie a message to mention what a great doctor she is, and then—totally by accident—I notice "M.D." listed right there under her name.😍 🤣
wiredpuma23 wiredpuma23 Newcomer
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#164 ·
steeltiger2 said:Well, I don't really have much connection to the world of men, nothing close anyway. It feels strange being this close to someone now; maybe I just want him all to myself, perhaps because I find protection and security in him. Maybe it's even a little bit like what I missed from a father, but that’s getting into deep psychology, and honestly, all I can say is that I miss my dad.
My boyfriend tells me that he can't not communicate with just about any woman because of how jealous I am. He says I need to act more maturely and that it hurts him that I don't trust him—that I think he's a jerk sometimes.
He said there will always be someone else I'll obviously be crazy about, but that he only loves me... I don't know, I really don't know why I can't believe him. He’s a good guy normally, and I don't think he's a bad person. But I can't stop worrying; it's like I'm not even normal. I start remembering everything, connecting dots that he doesn't even remember mentioning. I build these theories, analyzing everything from every possible angle. You wonder how I even manage to live like this? It just happens. It all hits me at once, incredibly fast.


Brittany, whatever you are,
the doctor talks smart, but it’s all way too complicated to fit on paper. She calls herself some kind of fairytale manipulator... as if we didn't already know that...
It’s pathetic that you turned to self-harm. It's just as pathetic to see people who could be on the opposite side of a jealous person going and doing the same thing to themselves. That isn't love. Goodbye.
Have you thought about just stepping back for a second? Get some perspective and decide what you actually want. I'm not saying you'll find some cosmic answer, but it gives him a chance to actually look at his own actions. You pull back a little, he pulls back a little—if you realize you miss each other, great. If not, you move on. Either way, stay together or go separate ways, but it's vital to tell him—in plain English—that certain things bother you. Nagging achieves nothing; he clearly isn't ready to talk, but he might be once a piece of the puzzle goes missing. It's your right to walk away if it becomes unbearable. He might see your exit as an act of malice, assuming you won't hurt either, but damn it—sometimes we say one thing politically while thinking something else entirely. Actions hit differently because they reach the brain, and sometimes pain is the only way to realize what we want and what it "costs." I'm intentionally leaving out the word "we."
People who claim they aren't jealous are lying to me. They're just better at hiding it, and then we all end up playing the same games again.
Another fact: we're all different. Some people are more volatile—which doesn't necessarily mean more emotional—and some less, but we're all simmering under the surface.
I don't know what else would be smart to write. There are millions of misunderstandings... you can't label every single interaction as flirting.
What if your boyfriend or husband comes over to my place with his dog and his kid? Say I have a dog too, and they're running wild in the apartment, and the kid's cracking up because the puppy is having a blast. The dad asks me to help clean the kid up, and then I mention it on a forum just for a laugh, not knowing you're reading it. You'd blow a fuse thinking it's cheating. To you, it's a total betrayal, but honey, it isn't. No matter how much I might have wanted it in a moment of desperation, your man isn't that.
Or when I run into some guy strolling through Times Square wearing nothing but his wife’s oversized underwear—sure, I might act all sweet to his face, but I won't actually lift a finger. Just because someone accidentally hurt us doesn't give us a free pass to go out and inflict our own brand of misery on everyone else.
Can you walk me through what actually goes on in your head after you cheat just to get even? I get where the impulse comes from... but does it actually make you feel better, or is it just a desperate way to numb the pain while hoping you pick up a lesson along the way?
And then there's this "expert" psychiatrist of ours... acting like she's auditioning for Miss USA or something. She basically told me, "It doesn't matter what I look like, you uneducated idiot, listen to what I'm saying." 😁
steeltiger2 steeltiger2 MemberOP
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joined Nov 2009
#165 ·
Someone’s clearly had one too many cocktails tonight😉 🙄
Sean Cruz Sean Cruz Regular
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joined Apr 2008
#166 ·
Sandra Morgan2 said:My argument is this: we are basically programmed to believe in romantic love and the supposed soul-fulfillment it brings, even though the concept itself has nothing to do with actual love. It might seem sweet and irresistible at first, but it quickly spirals into dark drama. It offers so little true fulfillment that it isn't a gift at all. Honestly? It's more like an infectious disease. The symptoms are similar to paralysis, cognitive impairment, or total brain fog. It drags people into deep melancholy, self-rejection, insecurity, or constant fighting. It creates internal chaos, turns us into pushovers or liars, and brings out our absolute worst. We end up catering to the whims and expectations of someone else who doesn't even know what they want. Sometimes, it gets so unbearable it leads to self-harm. Jealousy is just another side effect of romantic love, so we aren't actually off-topic here....

All of that is an understatement.

Because it's so dramatic, it masquerades as "living life to the fullest." But we need to be blunt: romantic love is bullshit. Not just because it doesn't truly exist, but because stripping away the mystery of that bullshit is the only way to finally breathe and open ourselves up to what real love actually is.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that an initial crush can't evolve into a healthy, solid relationship where two people support each other with flexibility and openness. That happens—it happens here and there. But that requires two mature individuals who love themselves and, paradoxically, don't actually *need* each other. Only two whole, integrated, and self-sufficient people can build a harmonious connection.

I don't entirely agree with what you wrote—though I can see the merit in certain points. However, rather than spiraling into a debate about things that aren't actually the point, let’s keep this brief: if the world functioned exactly as you described, it would be a perfect place. But for that to happen, we’d all need some kind of microchip implanted in our brains to strip away our emotions. Sure, everything would be "ideal," but since you can't eliminate negative feelings without killing off the positive ones too, this whole concept of unconditional love for everyone is nothing more than a modern fairy tale. Cinderella i Little Red Riding Hood reality The Little Red Riding Hood reality. So, Lennon. Imagine It’s one of the biggest fairy tales of our modern era. Whether we're talking about Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, or anyone else—they're all just women, whether they exist in fiction or in the real world. It doesn't really matter which.

P.S. I have to admit, I’m quite fond of certain concepts from Fromm, but let's be honest—they mostly live in the realm of theory. Real life is a different beast entirely. We can exercise an incredible amount of willpower if we try, but I don't believe total self-control is a sustainable solution for anyone in the long run.

I’ve already made my position clear, so let's just hope for the best. 🙂

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