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Anyone else here searching for something meaningful?

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Participants Amy Scott71jademarlin26Chris Lopez59rapidrider3Brenda Cooper3Jeremy Alvarez5silentbison23Ronald Moore58Drew Smith86casualtiger2ironranger6Mark Harris63Linda Walker37Sarah Newman2coastalskipper92Jeremy Brooks6
Brenda Cooper3 Brenda Cooper3 Active Member
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#21 ·
A good man is defined by his commitment to doing good and refusing to do harm. 😁
Drew Smith86 Drew Smith86 Newcomer
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#22 ·
People who are fundamentally decent tend to be honest, though they often come across as the bad guys because they refuse to tolerate injustice. They won't just sit there and take it, regardless of the fallout. I guess that usually ends with them being the ones who suffer, simply because they refused to bow down.
A lot of what we were taught was "good" is actually quite toxic, and vice versa.
Rebellion is probably a sign of a healthy psyche, since it’s obvious our parents were wrong about most things. The consequences are plain to see today; you don't even need to pick up the New York Times to notice.
That's why I'll never call anyone "good." They always seem to be smirking at me while carefully curating their best traits for show.
To find a real perspective, maybe one should focus on themselves—understanding higher-level needs and developing what lies within.
And another thing—there are truly wonderful people out there, and my mission is to make them happy.🙂🙂
casualtiger2 casualtiger2 Regular
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#23 ·
If you ask me, the OP is an absolute train wreck...

People aren't inherently good or bad—you find all sorts depending on the circumstances (both inside and out).
Chris Lopez59 Chris Lopez59 Active Member
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#24 ·
Brenda Cooper3 said:A good man is defined by his commitment to doing good and refusing to do harm. 😁

Honestly, that’s probably the most accurate definition you’re going to find out there, 👍 though I only ask because I’m pretty certain there are plenty of people out there who think being a "good person" just means you aren't actively causing chaos, but let's be real—just staying out of trouble isn't quite enough to earn the title.
ironranger6 ironranger6 Newcomer
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#25 ·
Exactly.
ironranger6 ironranger6 Newcomer
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#26 ·
Sure does.
Jeremy Alvarez5 Jeremy Alvarez5 Active Member
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#27 ·
Chris Lopez59 said:Are you really feeling that strongly about it?

I can't help but wonder if our arrival here is actually the result of some deep soul-level free will, where we specifically chose this exact life before we even got here.

I don't know, man. I mean, it feels more like free will is just a bunch of nonsense... at least until someone proves otherwise.

If someone can actually prove to me that I'm the reincarnation of some ancient shaman from the Middle East, then maybe I'll give it some serious thought.
Brenda Cooper3 Brenda Cooper3 Active Member
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#28 ·
casualtiger2 said:If you ask me, the OP is an absolute train wreck...

People aren't inherently good or bad—you find all sorts depending on the circumstances (both inside and out).

Exactly. ☕
Quincy:
I still can't get over how much everyone is obsessing over this. It’s like we’re watching history unfold in real-time, yet half the people discussing it seem completely disconnected from the reality of the situation. We need to stay grounded. kaže:
The most accurate definition in existence. 👍 I’m asking this because I’m certain there are people out there who define a "good person" simply as someone who doesn't do anything bad. But in my view, that's a pretty low bar—it isn't enough to truly qualify.
Not exactly. It’s hard to draw any firm conclusions yet. 🙄
Chris Lopez59 Chris Lopez59 Active Member
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#29 ·
Jeremy Alvarez5 said:I don't know, man. I mean, it feels more like free will is just a bunch of nonsense... at least until someone proves otherwise.

If someone can actually prove to me that I'm the reincarnation of some ancient shaman from the Middle East, then maybe I'll give it some serious thought.

When you look at the physical body, sure, that makes sense. But does the soul actually form at conception, or was it already hanging around somewhere before that, just waiting to latch onto a new vessel?

Jeremy Alvarez5 said:I don't know, man. I mean, it feels more like free will is just a bunch of nonsense... at least until someone proves otherwise.

If someone can actually prove to me that I'm the reincarnation of some ancient shaman from the Middle East, then maybe I'll give it some serious thought.

Look, if you're truly willing to go there, just find someone to perform a hypnotic regression on you and record whatever nonsense comes out about your past lives.😉

I mean, I realize there are plenty of Christians out there who would be absolutely miserable if they were ever confronted with actual, concrete evidence suggesting that reincarnation might be a real thing, mostly because it would basically throw parts of the Bible out the window.

But honestly, regardless of what the ultimate truth turns out to be, since we're all just operating in a massive void of knowledge—which is exactly why we rely on faith in the first place—it remains a very real possibility, especially since we can't definitively prove what's true anyway.
Jeremy Alvarez5 Jeremy Alvarez5 Active Member
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#30 ·
Chris Lopez59 said:When you look at the physical body, sure, that makes sense. But does the soul actually form at conception, or was it already hanging around somewhere before that, just waiting to latch onto a new vessel?

Look, if you're truly willing to go there, just find someone to perform a hypnotic regression on you and record whatever nonsense comes out about your past lives.😉

I mean, I realize there are plenty of Christians out there who would be absolutely miserable if they were ever confronted with actual, concrete evidence suggesting that reincarnation might be a real thing, mostly because it would basically throw parts of the Bible out the window.

But honestly, regardless of what the ultimate truth turns out to be, since we're all just operating in a massive void of knowledge—which is exactly why we rely on faith in the first place—it remains a very real possibility, especially since we can't definitively prove what's true anyway.

Man, I would love that. Do you happen to know anyone you could recommend? Ideally, someone who isn't too far from Los Angeles.

I mean, I get it—there are probably a ton of Christian believers out there who would be pretty uncomfortable if they actually ran into concrete proof that reincarnation might be a real thing. It’s a heavy thought, I guess. If that were ever proven, it feels like it would totally undermine parts of the Bible, wouldn't it? Just a weird thing to wrap your head around, maybe.

The way I see it, the Bible actually points toward at least three different realms. You’ve got this world where we’re all living our lives, then there’s the realm of the dead—which is interesting because they aren't exactly "gone," they're still existing in some capacity. Then, depending on God’s will or during certain moments involving His son Jesus, people might rise from the dead, pass away again, or even ascend into an intermediate space, or maybe just show up in visions like spirits. Finally, you have that third state where Jesus prepares a place for those who believe, which is where everyone settles after Judgment Day. So, my takeaway? Based on how the Bible is written, reincarnation kind of happens, or at least something similar does. I mean, I don't really know how else you'd interpret things like the idea that John the Baptist is Elijah coming back, or stuff like that. As for me personally, I’m a Christian—about as much as my brother's Maltese is a shark. (And I don't even have a brother, haha).

I mean, look, regardless of what the actual truth is, when you're stuck without any real way to know for sure—which is basically why faith even exists in the first place—it’s definitely a possibility. I guess if we can't actually prove what's true, then anything goes, right? Maybe.

If there’s even a chance this is true, then I guess it’s just one more of those little gems God tucked away when He was putting the world together—though it makes you wonder why He’d be so secretive about it all, right?
Chris Lopez59 Chris Lopez59 Active Member
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#31 ·
Jeremy Alvarez5 said:Man, I would love that. Do you happen to know anyone you could recommend? Ideally, someone who isn't too far from Los Angeles.

I mean, I get it—there are probably a ton of Christian believers out there who would be pretty uncomfortable if they actually ran into concrete proof that reincarnation might be a real thing. It’s a heavy thought, I guess. If that were ever proven, it feels like it would totally undermine parts of the Bible, wouldn't it? Just a weird thing to wrap your head around, maybe.

The way I see it, the Bible actually points toward at least three different realms. You’ve got this world where we’re all living our lives, then there’s the realm of the dead—which is interesting because they aren't exactly "gone," they're still existing in some capacity. Then, depending on God’s will or during certain moments involving His son Jesus, people might rise from the dead, pass away again, or even ascend into an intermediate space, or maybe just show up in visions like spirits. Finally, you have that third state where Jesus prepares a place for those who believe, which is where everyone settles after Judgment Day. So, my takeaway? Based on how the Bible is written, reincarnation kind of happens, or at least something similar does. I mean, I don't really know how else you'd interpret things like the idea that John the Baptist is Elijah coming back, or stuff like that. As for me personally, I’m a Christian—about as much as my brother's Maltese is a shark. (And I don't even have a brother, haha).

I mean, look, regardless of what the actual truth is, when you're stuck without any real way to know for sure—which is basically why faith even exists in the first place—it’s definitely a possibility. I guess if we can't actually prove what's true, then anything goes, right? Maybe.

If there’s even a chance this is true, then I guess it’s just one more of those little gems God tucked away when He was putting the world together—though it makes you wonder why He’d be so secretive about it all, right?

I don't have anyone, honestly, not even just a general lead. From what I understand, you really need a hypnotist who actually knows their stuff and isn't just playing pretend, because if they aren't pros, there's a legitimate risk of getting stuck in some weird personality loop from a past life or something. I heard about this one person who tried to perform regression on herself and almost completely lost her grip on reality. It was pretty messed up.
Mark Harris63 Mark Harris63 Newcomer
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#32 ·
Amy Scott71 said:Honestly, if I were to get married and have kids, all I'd really be doing is making my own life harder,
back when things were simpler—whether you lived out in the suburbs or even just moved to the West Coast—it wouldn't have been such a struggle. But the problem is I was raised with actual values, and now, ever since the 90s, everyone from local politicians to foreign corporations treats us like nothing more than cattle stuck in a system designed to grind us down.

Come on, give me a break... ☕ You're talking about God and the Bible, yet you're bringing up old political systems. It's like trying to use a broken tool—it's just not going to work. 😁
Linda Walker37 Linda Walker37 Member
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#33 ·
I try my best to be a good person, but I’m fully aware of my own flaws. There's always room—and a real necessity—to grow. Honestly, I don't think anyone can truly claim they're "perfect," because that just feels hypocritical. We spend so much time writing entire novels about everyone else's shortcomings, yet we struggle to find even a single word to describe our own. We act like we're always right and have all the answers, but how does that even work?... Well, that's just human nature, I guess. That's why > says not to do to others what you wouldn't want done to yourself. It's such a beautiful lesson. Anyway, I’m probably drifting way off topic here 🙂🙂but, oh well 🤷
Linda Walker37 Linda Walker37 Member
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#34 ·
Oh man, tell me about it... I’m constantly looking for the good in everything around me, even here on this forum. It isn’t always easy to find the light, but I truly believe there’s always a way to steer clear of the negativity. In my opinion, that's really our only way out these days. Just look for the good, avoid the bad, and you'll be alright.
Sarah Newman2 Sarah Newman2 Member
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#35 ·
You can't talk sense to sheep! Consumerism has made them way too soft on these issues. They’ve become completely sterile. The Hollywood world has cast its spell on them, and now a cheap can of beer has replaced the search for the Holy Grail. Money, money, money—it's become the only icon they worship, the only thing they actually believe in. Every year, they flock to those massive shopping malls like mindless cattle, rushing to pay homage to some corporate mascot in red, sipping on sodas while they celebrate at high-speed checkout counters. Just twenty years ago, people actually looked up to the Lord; they respected Him and honored Him. Now? He isn't "cool" enough anymore. In his place, we have Atheism. On the stage stands the holy Hollywood, represented by some buffed-up guy with an angelic face who looks perfect and polished. Ladies and gentlemen, just sit back in your armchairs with some Lay's chips and a cold beer, and watch with pride as the true warriors go out to fight the darkness in your stead.
coastalskipper92 coastalskipper92 Active Member
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#36 ·
It’s difficult to define or even pin down what is being discussed here, though I suspect it might be

Chris Lopez59 said:It’s all about being oriented toward others, you know? You start to spot those people who genuinely strive to do good, the ones who step up to help just because they can, rather than out of some desperate need for validation. Real goodness comes from the person who makes themselves available to everyone else while simultaneously letting go of their own ego


mercy.

As for living righteously—or perhaps according to one God—that is an entirely different matter..

One can live for others, not because it was a conscious choice, yet still find people perceiving them as an egocentrist..
If your only desire is for them to have freedom, just as you do..

rather than simply handing them a bag of groceries.. which apparently makes you Satan😍

Some are meant to be merciful, others are meant to be this way or that.. but in any case, the BEST THEY CAN BE.. and that should align with their true nature, since everyone is unique..

When things are measured by those rigid "moral rules".. well, that is how most people operate, and it is pure conformism.. those "good" people end up being alienated from one another..

Dreadful.
I feel unwell just thinking about it..

To simply be who you are and encourage another to be who they are—both of you becoming the best versions of yourselves.. in accordance with that inner freedom... that is more than enough morality😉
Jeremy Brooks6 Jeremy Brooks6 Member
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#37 ·
casualtiger2 said:If you ask me, the OP is an absolute train wreck...

People aren't inherently good or bad—you find all sorts depending on the circumstances (both inside and out).

👍

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