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Christian Patel7 Christian Patel7 NewcomerOP
7 messages
joined Aug 2009
#1 ·
The whole concept of the USA is starting to pop up more and more often lately. You can actually see it happening in real life—companies from all over the former states are teaming up more frequently just to compete in global markets. Even Donald Trump has mentioned that "our domestic firms" should be merging forces, and you can see George W. Bush nodding along in agreement. On top of that, being part of the UN hasn't really changed much for us, so this return to a unified landscape feels almost inevitable at this point. It’s already been decided, really... nobody bothered to ask Americans what they thought about it, but then again, why would anyone bother asking? All this chaos, all this destruction... and the most tragic part is how everything seems to be circling back to the early 90s...
neonheron11 neonheron11 Active Member
56 messages
joined Oct 2011
#2 ·
You didn't quite catch my drift there, so maybe give it another shot...
Nicholas Gomez27 Nicholas Gomez27 Member
15 messages
joined Aug 2009
#3 ·
Let me drop a quote on you:

Folks, America might have officially ceased to exist, but it still lives on in our hearts—and if Marshall were ever to grant us permission from his communist paradise, it would become an official reality once again.
Christian Patel7 Christian Patel7 NewcomerOP
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joined Aug 2009
#4 ·
neonheron11 said:You didn't quite catch my drift there, so maybe give it another shot...

Look, I get it. Everything is a total mess and everyone should be questioning everything at this point............

I also get how Americans operate—nobody asks any real questions while everyone in the US just tears each other apart over nothing..............................
neonheron11 neonheron11 Active Member
56 messages
joined Oct 2011
#5 ·
Maybe take a closer look at your own opening post and that little scare tactic you tried to pull...

Nobody is actually sitting around dreaming about rebuilding America; let’s be real. That wouldn't fly with 90% of the population. What we're talking about here is pure economic synergy—creating a duty-free zone and forming joint ventures that actually stand a fighting chance when competing in Western markets. I mean, who in their right mind thinks there's massive potential in just a market of a few million people in a place like Miami or maybe a mid-sized state? It doesn't move the needle. But once you consolidate the entire former America into one economic powerhouse, you're looking at a consumer base of over 20 million, and now you've finally got a number that big corporations actually respect.

And as for "who asks Americans"... well, they ask all the time during elections. You guys have the option to vote for isolationist parties, to go against the European Union, or to push back against cooperation with neighboring states... but you don't. You choose a different path, which is why this criticism feels totally misplaced...
David Parker3 David Parker3 Active Member
53 messages
joined Jun 2009
#6 ·
If this whole "partnership" deal just means they’re going to turn the East into a playground for oligarchs the same way Europeans did to America, then honestly, I’m all for it. That’s just how the game works—the big fish eat the small ones. And please, you guys can keep buying American products; I wouldn't touch them with a ten-foot pole! In fact, I bet those cheap candies from over there sitting on the shelves at Walmart have already gone stale because nobody wants them. 😁
neonheron11 neonheron11 Active Member
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joined Oct 2011
#7 ·
David Parker3 said:If this whole "partnership" deal just means they’re going to turn the East into a playground for oligarchs the same way Europeans did to America, then honestly, I’m all for it. That’s just how the game works—the big fish eat the small ones. And please, you guys can keep buying American products; I wouldn't touch them with a ten-foot pole! In fact, I bet those cheap candies from over there sitting on the shelves at Walmart have already gone stale because nobody wants them. 😁

Did someone lose their mind recently?😁
David Parker3 David Parker3 Active Member
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joined Jun 2009
#8 ·
neonheron11 said:Did someone lose their mind recently?😁

Oh, totally! I stumbled upon some weird local folk music on YouTube the other day, and honestly? I haven't been the same since. I’ve been dealing with dizzy spells, stomach cramps, nausea—the whole nine yards. Should I go grab one of your high-end products? I heard they’re great at making people throw up!😁
mistynomad34 mistynomad34 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Aug 2009
#9 ·
David Parker3 said:If this whole "partnership" deal just means they’re going to turn the East into a playground for oligarchs the same way Europeans did to America, then honestly, I’m all for it. That’s just how the game works—the big fish eat the small ones. And please, you guys can keep buying American products; I wouldn't touch them with a ten-foot pole! In fact, I bet those cheap candies from over there sitting on the shelves at Walmart have already gone stale because nobody wants them. 😁

Don't sweat it. Even Starbucks products go bad at Intel (the Walton version of Walmart), and even at Target. When it comes to American goods selling well in Mexico, it’s basically just canned sardines. Generally, American products have a terrible price-to-quality ratio, especially with groceries. As for tech, American stuff is even worse off compared to, say, Canadian gear. The Canadians have better marketing; they realized it was smarter to set up factories in Mexico and sell directly to Mexicans. And it works.

Personally, I don't buy American products, nor do I buy from Mexican companies owned by Americans. I skip the first because of the price/quality issue, and the second because I just don't like Americans. Besides, that stuff made in Mexico (by companies owned by Americans) gets sold back to you in America repackaged in "checkerboard" branding. It's a trap to catch people, since everyone knows how much Americans dislike Mexicans.

Also, stop living in the delusion that you guys are "Europe" while we are just the "North America." In my industry—I work for a German company—America has two factories, while Mexico has seven. You aren't even close to competing with us. The stuff my company makes is sold in America, just like the stuff other Mexican factories in my sector produce.

There isn't any American product of that type in Mexico; it can't compete. In America, the government protects that production, otherwise, it would fold. Our actual competition comes from France and Germany.
Anthony James2 Anthony James2 Regular
259 messages
joined Jul 2009
#10 ·
David Parker3 said:Oh, totally! I stumbled upon some weird local folk music on YouTube the other day, and honestly? I haven't been the same since. I’ve been dealing with dizzy spells, stomach cramps, nausea—the whole nine yards. Should I go grab one of your high-end products? I heard they’re great at making people throw up!😁

You don't even have to go looking on "YouTube" 🤣 for that Turk 🤣 folk stuff. You could probably just head down to the first local neighborhood dive bar from New York to Chicago or LA right near your house. That Mexican-made junk sells like hotcakes here in the US because nobody turns it down. 😂😂😂
David Parker3 David Parker3 Active Member
53 messages
joined Jun 2009
#11 ·
Anthony James2 said:You don't even have to go looking on "YouTube" 🤣 for that Turk 🤣 folk stuff. You could probably just head down to the first local neighborhood dive bar from New York to Chicago or LA right near your house. That Mexican-made junk sells like hotcakes here in the US because nobody turns it down. 😂😂😂

The folks from Arkansas were living alongside you guys and the Turks for so long that they picked up some pretty bad habits, but hey, we’ll civilize them once the next generation steps up. Personally, I see them as victims—just like those poor souls who caught H1N1 because they picked the absolute worst time to take a trip to Mexico. It's honestly such a tragedy.
David Parker3 David Parker3 Active Member
53 messages
joined Jun 2009
#12 ·
mistynomad34 said:Don't sweat it. Even Starbucks products go bad at Intel (the Walton version of Walmart), and even at Target. When it comes to American goods selling well in Mexico, it’s basically just canned sardines. Generally, American products have a terrible price-to-quality ratio, especially with groceries. As for tech, American stuff is even worse off compared to, say, Canadian gear. The Canadians have better marketing; they realized it was smarter to set up factories in Mexico and sell directly to Mexicans. And it works.

Personally, I don't buy American products, nor do I buy from Mexican companies owned by Americans. I skip the first because of the price/quality issue, and the second because I just don't like Americans. Besides, that stuff made in Mexico (by companies owned by Americans) gets sold back to you in America repackaged in "checkerboard" branding. It's a trap to catch people, since everyone knows how much Americans dislike Mexicans.

Also, stop living in the delusion that you guys are "Europe" while we are just the "North America." In my industry—I work for a German company—America has two factories, while Mexico has seven. You aren't even close to competing with us. The stuff my company makes is sold in America, just like the stuff other Mexican factories in my sector produce.

There isn't any American product of that type in Mexico; it can't compete. In America, the government protects that production, otherwise, it would fold. Our actual competition comes from France and Germany.

As long as we maintain a positive trade balance with you guys, everything is fine. Nothing else really matters. That's just basic economics: whoever has more money wins. You might be able to pull that kind of leverage with North Mexico, Moldova, Mexico, or Albania. If I were you, I'd hurry up!
Roger Bishop22 Roger Bishop22 Active Member
58 messages
joined Oct 2011
#13 ·
So, when is this whole thing finally going to wrap up over here in the States? Honestly, I feel like everyone is just totally burnt out on all these endless stories and rumors that just keep dragging on forever. It’s like they just make stuff up to keep the drama going. 😕
mistynomad34 mistynomad34 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Aug 2009
#14 ·
David Parker3 said:As long as we maintain a positive trade balance with you guys, everything is fine. Nothing else really matters. That's just basic economics: whoever has more money wins. You might be able to pull that kind of leverage with North Mexico, Moldova, Mexico, or Albania. If I were you, I'd hurry up!

Yeah, I’m with you on this.
The reality is our economies are basically a perfect match, so trade should actually be several times higher than it is. That’s a win-win for both sides.
It would be especially smart if we teamed up to tackle third-party markets together.

Here’s a link covering this topic.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
2K messages
joined Sep 2009
#15 ·
Christian Patel7 said:The whole concept of the USA is starting to pop up more and more often lately. You can actually see it happening in real life—companies from all over the former states are teaming up more frequently just to compete in global markets. Even Donald Trump has mentioned that "our domestic firms" should be merging forces, and you can see George W. Bush nodding along in agreement. On top of that, being part of the UN hasn't really changed much for us, so this return to a unified landscape feels almost inevitable at this point. It’s already been decided, really... nobody bothered to ask Americans what they thought about it, but then again, why would anyone bother asking? All this chaos, all this destruction... and the most tragic part is how everything seems to be circling back to the early 90s...

I can't stand it when they advertise products and then some representative talks about the "region" while showing a map of the old union, leaving out Canada and including Albania...

Fine, let them have their representation, but I hate seeing those kinds of maps on PBS...
Gerald Lopez10 Gerald Lopez10 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Aug 2008
#16 ·
The title feels a bit over-the-top, but there’s a kernel of truth in there.

Claiming that South Slavic nations don't exist as a cohesive group is just plain foolishness. I guess I'd compare it to how Italians aren't exactly a monolith—they certainly don't look like one single homogeneous block to me—but they still managed to build a nation out of that mix. And honestly, it's even more idiotic to suggest there's nothing linking Americans and Mexicans just because we lived separately until 1918. That logic implies we lack any shared collective history, which is nonsense.

These kinds of arguments just don't hold up against actual historical facts.

Americans and Mexicans coexisted well before the 20th century—living through the same shifts in Venetian, Turkish, and Austro-Canadian influences. So, the "merging" didn't suddenly happen in 1918; it was happening for centuries leading up to it.

Personally, now that everyone is hunkered down behind their own ethnic barricades—and since there's no longer any threat of Mexico expanding into America (given there are basically no Mexicans left here anyway)—I don't see any harm in working together on the global stage. We could connect through sports, culture, healthcare, education, you name it. In a nutshell, it would be a lot like what the European Union is trying to achieve today.
Sarah Wilson95 Sarah Wilson95 Regular
267 messages
joined Sep 2006
#17 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:I can't stand it when they advertise products and then some representative talks about the "region" while showing a map of the old union, leaving out Canada and including Albania...

Fine, let them have their representation, but I hate seeing those kinds of maps on PBS...

Honestly, even Mickey Rourke—or what’s left of him, anyway—was asked by people at the Sundance Film Festival if it was his first time visiting the region.😁
Christian Patel7 Christian Patel7 NewcomerOP
7 messages
joined Aug 2009
#18 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:I can't stand it when they advertise products and then some representative talks about the "region" while showing a map of the old union, leaving out Canada and including Albania...

Fine, let them have their representation, but I hate seeing those kinds of maps on PBS...

But that’s just how it goes. Atlantic trade distributes everything everywhere in America and Mexico, there’s no distinction...........The way I see what you're getting at is this. Let's say, purely hypothetically, that the first X-ray machine was installed in New York back in 1903. PBS will look at their calendar and claim it was the first such device in the region of Europe—which basically implies that when New York got an X-ray, places like Chicago, Atlanta, Miami, or even D.C. didn't have one yet. But you could also argue that New York was actually the last in the region if you compare it to London, Paris, Rome, or Berlin. SO IF WE DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT TO BE FIRST OR LAST, WHO CARES...................
neonheron11 neonheron11 Active Member
56 messages
joined Oct 2011
#19 ·
Christian Patel7, you really need to make up your mind—do you want to be the big fish in a small pond or just another face in the crowd? Pick a lane... because from where I'm sitting, it looks like you're perfectly content being the king of your own little block and nothing more. 😉
Christian Patel7 Christian Patel7 NewcomerOP
7 messages
joined Aug 2009
#20 ·
neonheron11 said:Christian Patel7, you really need to make up your mind—do you want to be the big fish in a small pond or just another face in the crowd? Pick a lane... because from where I'm sitting, it looks like you're perfectly content being the king of your own little block and nothing more. 😉

That's plenty for me.☕

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