How is it that there isn't a single left-wing party in Europe against immigration?

It’s not even about being xenophobic—it’s just about all this foreign labor being imported...

restlessfox5 said:It’s not even about being xenophobic—it’s just about all this foreign labor being imported...

And honestly? That's because leftist parties are always out there pandering to the slackers, the lazy ones, the envious, the bitter, the impoverished... their whole playbook is basically trying to swap out the majority population for people coming in from abroad to tear down everything generations have built. That’s their voter base right there—and get this—the left has even managed to bleed into like 75% of the right wing...
The left's end goal is to dismantle family values—and by "values," I mean the actual family unit—by pushing abortion, euthanasia, homosexuality, dragging Christianity through the mud, and elevating Judaism and Islam just to wipe out the majority population and the white race... they want all whites to be multicultural while ensuring no yellow or black groups ever have to deal with that. Take the UK, for instance—whites become a minority by 2060; in the US, it’ll happen by 2040. After that, it's just a slow fade toward extinction because they encourage interracial relationships in the meantime—I mean, you've got Clinton in Cairo basically explaining to Semites how great it is that America stops being European by 2040

For example, if some white guy in Britain stabs a Muslim, it's front-page news for a week straight. But when a group of Muslims spends three hours hacking a white guy to pieces and tearing him apart, it’s just a tiny little blurb in the paper and everyone involved gets a pass🙄

You're mixing up the left wing with the Frankfurt School...

Robert Ross8 said:And honestly? That's because leftist parties are always out there pandering to the slackers, the lazy ones, the envious, the bitter, the impoverished... their whole playbook is basically trying to swap out the majority population for people coming in from abroad to tear down everything generations have built. That’s their voter base right there—and get this—the left has even managed to bleed into like 75% of the right wing...
The left's end goal is to dismantle family values—and by "values," I mean the actual family unit—by pushing abortion, euthanasia, homosexuality, dragging Christianity through the mud, and elevating Judaism and Islam just to wipe out the majority population and the white race... they want all whites to be multicultural while ensuring no yellow or black groups ever have to deal with that. Take the UK, for instance—whites become a minority by 2060; in the US, it’ll happen by 2040. After that, it's just a slow fade toward extinction because they encourage interracial relationships in the meantime—I mean, you've got Clinton in Cairo basically explaining to Semites how great it is that America stops being European by 2040

For example, if some white guy in Britain stabs a Muslim, it's front-page news for a week straight. But when a group of Muslims spends three hours hacking a white guy to pieces and tearing him apart, it’s just a tiny little blurb in the paper and everyone involved gets a pass🙄

You forgot to mention... that those very same people... who import immigrants... also support the right wing. They're hypocrites. Their servants and laborers are immigrants... yet they back the right... because obviously... it's all about the money. The right won't stand up against "free capital," though they might bark about immigrants.
We all know the right is supported by the exact same people who were the first ones importing immigrants... and now they're exporting their capital $$$ to China and India.

Also.... what can you really expect.... if A. Europeans aren't having kids. Their birth rates are catastrophic. B. Globalization has made access to Europe easier (transport, media, telecoms, schools, culture, science.... it's all more or less "globalized" now). C. Europe itself used to act very protectionist toward its former colonies. For example... the Spanish have a "special" relationship with Latin Americans.... the English with Indians, Africans... etc. The French with Canadians and Africa. Those "special" relationships (like La Francophonie or the Commonwealth) are things Europe inherited "in a package deal"... along with the UK and France... when they joined the EU.
For instance.... I literally just had a lecture on "La Francophonie" on my fax machine, and for the French, that is a huge community that functions parallel to their membership and integration into the EU. In a way.... they've become culturally dependent on Sub-Saharan Africa... because the French language has lost that cultural-political prestige it enjoyed until recently. Together with that Francophone Africa, the Caribbean, Canada, and Polynesia... they form one linguistic (meaning cultural) zone.
With England, the situation is even worse. India is the largest country in the English-speaking world. The USA is only second. Once they build up a bit more (India)... they become de facto... the strongest Anglophone culture in the world.
For several years now.... Indo-Pakistanis and their emigration.... have been sweeping up all the literary prizes in both Britain, Canada, and the USA. "Real" Englishmen only have Harry Potter left. 😉

Lisa Walker31 said:You forgot to mention... that those very same people... who import immigrants... also support the right wing. They're hypocrites. Their servants and laborers are immigrants... yet they back the right... because obviously... it's all about the money. The right won't stand up against "free capital," though they might bark about immigrants.
We all know the right is supported by the exact same people who were the first ones importing immigrants... and now they're exporting their capital $$$ to China and India.

Also.... what can you really expect.... if A. Europeans aren't having kids. Their birth rates are catastrophic. B. Globalization has made access to Europe easier (transport, media, telecoms, schools, culture, science.... it's all more or less "globalized" now). C. Europe itself used to act very protectionist toward its former colonies. For example... the Spanish have a "special" relationship with Latin Americans.... the English with Indians, Africans... etc. The French with Canadians and Africa. Those "special" relationships (like La Francophonie or the Commonwealth) are things Europe inherited "in a package deal"... along with the UK and France... when they joined the EU.
For instance.... I literally just had a lecture on "La Francophonie" on my fax machine, and for the French, that is a huge community that functions parallel to their membership and integration into the EU. In a way.... they've become culturally dependent on Sub-Saharan Africa... because the French language has lost that cultural-political prestige it enjoyed until recently. Together with that Francophone Africa, the Caribbean, Canada, and Polynesia... they form one linguistic (meaning cultural) zone.
With England, the situation is even worse. India is the largest country in the English-speaking world. The USA is only second. Once they build up a bit more (India)... they become de facto... the strongest Anglophone culture in the world.
For several years now.... Indo-Pakistanis and their emigration.... have been sweeping up all the literary prizes in both Britain, Canada, and the USA. "Real" Englishmen only have Harry Potter left. 😉

It's funny how the Democrats and big corporations share the same goal and back each other unconditionally: importing foreigners. One gets cheap labor, the other gets future votes...

Brenda Ross47 said:It's funny how the Democrats and big corporations share the same goal and back each other unconditionally: importing foreigners. One gets cheap labor, the other gets future votes...

Well, I don't think their goals are actually identical. The Democrats... they approach this whole mess from a humanitarian perspective. (And honestly, me too... even though I’m not strictly a Democrat 😉).
When someone is literally risking their life... barely surviving just to make it into America... what are you supposed to do? Toss them back into the ocean... let them drown? (Just like so many others who disappear... traveling from Africa all the way to the Italian coast).
They aren't "attacking" America with weapons... nor are they conquering it... (unlike what our "White" people did to their homelands and ancestors for centuries). Look, they aren't raping us. They're just trying to survive.
We, or our elites (if you want to act like you're some kind of White European 😁), still control many of their countries, their wealth, and their governments... yet in the meantime... we've become politically and economically dependent on the very countries these immigrants are fleeing.
So... if the Democrats don't raise hell about the sheer number of immigrants flooding into America... then neither do the political elites... nor the capitalists, who happen to benefit most from cheap labor.

It’s much cheaper to import one healthy, grown adult worker than it is to fund child benefits, daycare, schools, healthcare... for the entire 20+ year cycle.

Every single morning... along the beaches of southern Spain... you see the bodies of those who didn't make it.
The image is gut-wrenching... which is why most of the Democrats—and even people like me—don't quite know how to respond to people who are willing to sacrifice everything just for a crust of bread.

By the way... it just hit me that I am a product of similar circumstances. My father and mother met in an Austrian "camp" for refugees fleeing communism. And they absolutely risked their lives... just like these people arriving in America today.

Look... it’s simple. We can't turn back the clock. You can't **un-stuff it once it's in you.

Back when Magellan and his crew set out on those expeditions to sail the globe... globalization really kicked into high gear. Colonization and technology just pushed it further and further. Now, all we can really do is... try to control immigration to some extent.

Besides... if our White Europeans spent centuries exporting their own poverty to Africa, Australia, and the Americas... why the hell are we whining now just because a Black person or a Chinese person shows up in Verona?
Nowadays, there are more "Italians" in Sao Paulo than there are in Rome... and Italians are arguably the most xenophobic of all Europeans. Even the Greeks can't compete with them. However... until the 1970s, they were incredibly active in exporting their hunger, their misery, and their chaos. Now they act like they're some threatened indigenous population. 😛

Don't blame those "Dark-skinned" folks chasing a living... instead, go screw the Spaniards, the English, the Portuguese, and the Dutch... the ones who opened the doors to the world several centuries ago.

To me, the funniest thing is when Berlusconi starts making a huge stink about immigrants 😁... when the Romans conquered the entire Mediterranean. They Latinized almost our entire region. Mussolini marched into Africa... (and even today, plenty of Somalis speak Italian and eat spaghetti 😉

They used to ship their mafia syndicates all over the globe....and now they’re suddenly acting all high and mighty, picking fights with Romani pickpockets. Absolute hypocrites. 😁

And honestly....I don't buy this whole idea that Democrats "need" immigrants just to secure future votes. I mean, Democrats win in plenty of places where there aren't even many immigrants around who would bother voting for them in the first place.
Secondly....look at Germany, they’ve only just started handing out citizenship left and right. Most of those immigrants didn't even have the right to vote until recently.
It isn't exactly easy to become a voter in Europe.

If the Democrats had ever actually stopped to think....Europe would never have conquered those distant lands in the first place. When you look at it that way....the left has always been incredibly conservative on this issue.
Now....now that they're finally facing the fallout from all those European adventures and their version of "progress"...all they can do is react "like decent people." We're talking about human beings here...not livestock....(which they seem to think should be herded around like cattle in a pen).

Lisa Walker31 said:Well, I don't think their goals are actually identical. The Democrats... they approach this whole mess from a humanitarian perspective. (And honestly, me too... even though I’m not strictly a Democrat 😉).
When someone is literally risking their life... barely surviving just to make it into America... what are you supposed to do? Toss them back into the ocean... let them drown? (Just like so many others who disappear... traveling from Africa all the way to the Italian coast).
They aren't "attacking" America with weapons... nor are they conquering it... (unlike what our "White" people did to their homelands and ancestors for centuries). Look, they aren't raping us. They're just trying to survive.
We, or our elites (if you want to act like you're some kind of White European 😁), still control many of their countries, their wealth, and their governments... yet in the meantime... we've become politically and economically dependent on the very countries these immigrants are fleeing.
So... if the Democrats don't raise hell about the sheer number of immigrants flooding into America... then neither do the political elites... nor the capitalists, who happen to benefit most from cheap labor.

It’s much cheaper to import one healthy, grown adult worker than it is to fund child benefits, daycare, schools, healthcare... for the entire 20+ year cycle.

Every single morning... along the beaches of southern Spain... you see the bodies of those who didn't make it.
The image is gut-wrenching... which is why most of the Democrats—and even people like me—don't quite know how to respond to people who are willing to sacrifice everything just for a crust of bread.

By the way... it just hit me that I am a product of similar circumstances. My father and mother met in an Austrian "camp" for refugees fleeing communism. And they absolutely risked their lives... just like these people arriving in America today.

Look... it’s simple. We can't turn back the clock. You can't **un-stuff it once it's in you.

Back when Magellan and his crew set out on those expeditions to sail the globe... globalization really kicked into high gear. Colonization and technology just pushed it further and further. Now, all we can really do is... try to control immigration to some extent.

Besides... if our White Europeans spent centuries exporting their own poverty to Africa, Australia, and the Americas... why the hell are we whining now just because a Black person or a Chinese person shows up in Verona?
Nowadays, there are more "Italians" in Sao Paulo than there are in Rome... and Italians are arguably the most xenophobic of all Europeans. Even the Greeks can't compete with them. However... until the 1970s, they were incredibly active in exporting their hunger, their misery, and their chaos. Now they act like they're some threatened indigenous population. 😛

Don't blame those "Dark-skinned" folks chasing a living... instead, go screw the Spaniards, the English, the Portuguese, and the Dutch... the ones who opened the doors to the world several centuries ago.

To me, the funniest thing is when Berlusconi starts making a huge stink about immigrants 😁... when the Romans conquered the entire Mediterranean. They Latinized almost our entire region. Mussolini marched into Africa... (and even today, plenty of Somalis speak Italian and eat spaghetti 😉

They used to ship their mafia syndicates all over the globe....and now they’re suddenly acting all high and mighty, picking fights with Romani pickpockets. Absolute hypocrites. 😁

And honestly....I don't buy this whole idea that Democrats "need" immigrants just to secure future votes. I mean, Democrats win in plenty of places where there aren't even many immigrants around who would bother voting for them in the first place.
Secondly....look at Germany, they’ve only just started handing out citizenship left and right. Most of those immigrants didn't even have the right to vote until recently.
It isn't exactly easy to become a voter in Europe.

If the Democrats had ever actually stopped to think....Europe would never have conquered those distant lands in the first place. When you look at it that way....the left has always been incredibly conservative on this issue.
Now....now that they're finally facing the fallout from all those European adventures and their version of "progress"...all they can do is react "like decent people." We're talking about human beings here...not livestock....(which they seem to think should be herded around like cattle in a pen).

Forgive me, but I haven't heard anything more foolish in quite some time. Immigrants are brought in specifically for cheap labor—it's simple math. Plus, Democratic parties have an extra incentive since these people represent future voters, making it much easier to peddle that whole "humanitarian" demagoguery...

It all comes down to ideology:

Democrats:
"We're generating profit. Let’s create more jobs and hire as many people as possible. If we run low on workers, let's just bring in immigrants so everyone can earn a living together and improve our domestic economy."

Republicans:
"We're generating profit. Let’s open up new positions in some impoverished country with cheap labor. We can let those folks work for pennies while we pull pure profit back home to boost our own standard of living. Why bother funding newcomers when we could just make life better for our own citizens without bringing in outsiders?"

Once you understand these two perspectives, you start to see why the US managed to extract $120 billion in pure profit from Latin America alone during the mid-80s—even though, on paper, they claimed it was massive aid for development. You also see why the USSR consistently ran a steady $30 billion deficit through its trade exchanges with Eastern Bloc countries.

Ultimately, this is why people say a young man is often a Democrat and an idealist, while a mature adult becomes a Republican and a realist.

Henry Myers3 said:It all comes down to ideology:

Democrats:
"We're generating profit. Let’s create more jobs and hire as many people as possible. If we run low on workers, let's just bring in immigrants so everyone can earn a living together and improve our domestic economy."

Republicans:
"We're generating profit. Let’s open up new positions in some impoverished country with cheap labor. We can let those folks work for pennies while we pull pure profit back home to boost our own standard of living. Why bother funding newcomers when we could just make life better for our own citizens without bringing in outsiders?"

Once you understand these two perspectives, you start to see why the US managed to extract $120 billion in pure profit from Latin America alone during the mid-80s—even though, on paper, they claimed it was massive aid for development. You also see why the USSR consistently ran a steady $30 billion deficit through its trade exchanges with Eastern Bloc countries.

Ultimately, this is why people say a young man is often a Democrat and an idealist, while a mature adult becomes a Republican and a realist.

Are "Democrat" politicians actually young or old!? You’ve essentially contradicted yourself there.

I would argue that a true realist isn't tied to the Democrat or Republican labels—they simply think for themselves and hold their own convictions.

Robert Ross8 said:And honestly? That's because leftist parties are always out there pandering to the slackers, the lazy ones, the envious, the bitter, the impoverished... their whole playbook is basically trying to swap out the majority population for people coming in from abroad to tear down everything generations have built. That’s their voter base right there—and get this—the left has even managed to bleed into like 75% of the right wing...
The left's end goal is to dismantle family values—and by "values," I mean the actual family unit—by pushing abortion, euthanasia, homosexuality, dragging Christianity through the mud, and elevating Judaism and Islam just to wipe out the majority population and the white race... they want all whites to be multicultural while ensuring no yellow or black groups ever have to deal with that. Take the UK, for instance—whites become a minority by 2060; in the US, it’ll happen by 2040. After that, it's just a slow fade toward extinction because they encourage interracial relationships in the meantime—I mean, you've got Clinton in Cairo basically explaining to Semites how great it is that America stops being European by 2040

For example, if some white guy in Britain stabs a Muslim, it's front-page news for a week straight. But when a group of Muslims spends three hours hacking a white guy to pieces and tearing him apart, it’s just a tiny little blurb in the paper and everyone involved gets a pass🙄

😂
Good grief... one can't deal with this kind of nonsense every single day.

Alexander Chase3 said:Are "Democrat" politicians actually young or old!? You’ve essentially contradicted yourself there.

I would argue that a true realist isn't tied to the Democrat or Republican labels—they simply think for themselves and hold their own convictions.

Not quite. There is a massive difference between the politicians—the leaders or the shepherds—and the followers, who are essentially just the flock...

There isn't a single political party actually standing against immigration, because let’s be honest—the US simply cannot function without it. That is the bottom line. Period.

Susan James42 said:😂
Good grief... one can't deal with this kind of nonsense every single day.

Well, duh—that's only because all the real stuff gets censored anyway.😳

Peter Bennett54 said:There isn't a single political party actually standing against immigration, because let’s be honest—the US simply cannot function without it. That is the bottom line. Period.

Look, we could totally make it work if we just slapped a tax on people who don't have kids—simple math, right? Or, you know, maybe we could try explaining to women that having a big family is actually pretty great and "in," instead of acting like some "cosmopolitan" type is going to fix everything while they live this ultra-modern lifestyle.

Robert Ross8 said:Look, we could totally make it work if we just slapped a tax on people who don't have kids—simple math, right? Or, you know, maybe we could try explaining to women that having a big family is actually pretty great and "in," instead of acting like some "cosmopolitan" type is going to fix everything while they live this ultra-modern lifestyle.

Look at the reality here:
Sarkozy is busy running France into the ground while that old relic Merkel—who, let's be honest, belongs to the exact same political clique as Sarkozy—pushes through legislation to arrest every single veteran from the First Hill Slopes, sixty-four years after the war ended. That’s their big platform. They actually have the audacity to brag about handing out life sentences to frail, elderly men, though I fail to see why anyone should even care about that nowadays. This entire political establishment isn't interested in doing anything constructive; if anything, they are actively forcing national suicide through every single policy they pass.

Peter Bennett54 said:There isn't a single political party actually standing against immigration, because let’s be honest—the US simply cannot function without it. That is the bottom line. Period.

The EU could totally function without immigrants, just like Japan does. In fact, they're practically paying foreigners to go back home:http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work...ers-to-Go-Home

And they aren't looking for new ones either:

But Mr. Kawasaki said the economic slump was a good opportunity to overhaul Japan’s immigration policy as a whole.

“We should stop letting unskilled laborers into Japan. We should make sure that even the three-K jobs are paid well, and that they are filled by Japanese,” he said. “I do not think that Japan should ever become a multiethnic society.”

Plus, some immigrants are actually relieved to be leaving Japan. 😂

“I’m happy to leave a country like this.” 😂

Quincey:

kvark01 says: The UN can totally survive without immigrants, just like the USA can, and honestly, they're actually paying foreigners to pack up and leave:http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work...ers-to-Go-Home and they don't want any new immigrants coming in either: But Mr. Kawasaki said the economic slump was a good opportunity to overhaul the USA’s immigration policy as a whole. “We should stop letting unskilled laborers into the USA. We should make sure that even the three-K jobs are paid well, and that they are filled by Americans,” he said. “I do not think that the USA should ever become a multiethnic society.” and the immigrants are actually pretty happy to be leaving the USA 😂 “I’m happy to leave a country like this.” 😂

Well, look... Americans actually had a very active emigration policy back in the early 20th century.😉 Back then, they didn't give a damn about what would happen to all those American emigrants out there... so I seriously doubt this is just some big sentimental thing about ethnic or national solidarity... it's much more about the sheer terror of social chaos and unrest that comes from unemployment and being broke.
It's true that... descendants of Americans living abroad... had an easier time getting back into the States... but most of them struggled immensely to adapt to the lifestyle and the mindset here. (I saw this with my absolute best friend).
Even if they were fully accepted... they wouldn't have stayed in the States anyway... and it isn't just because of ethnic xenophobia... (since we're talking about people who were 100% born to American parents) but because of the specific, highly ritualized American way of life.... which was incredibly hard to fit into... even for those descendants born overseas.
I know a woman who nearly had a complete nervous breakdown😕 even though she was making plenty of money in the USA.

Alexander Chase3 said:Forgive me, but I haven't heard anything more foolish in quite some time. Immigrants are brought in specifically for cheap labor—it's simple math. Plus, Democratic parties have an extra incentive since these people represent future voters, making it much easier to peddle that whole "humanitarian" demagoguery...

I’m just out here testifying to what I see happening right in front of my eyes, everywhere I look. It’s massive... churches and all these different "humanitarian" organizations... they are all lobbying hard for immigrants.
I actually have a friend who was even sponsored by one of the local Protestant churches... specifically as an immigrant refugee. They handled everything for her... even getting her an apartment... furniture and all... and she moved right in.

And let's talk about the immigrants themselves... even after they finally get their citizenship (which takes a few years of waiting)... in the area where I’m living right now.... they are definitely NOT... the type of people voting heavily for the left. Around here, immigration actually tends to swing votes toward the center or even the Republican side.

So, if you ask me, that whole theory about a symbiotic relationship between the left and immigration seems a bit "flawed."😛

In these specific cases..... we aren't talking about capitalists at all.... the ones who supposedly need the labor force.... we're talking about regular people with "soft hearts."😁

Now... the only way that works is if we can somehow find a direct "link" between the big capitalists and these church groups.
Right now, the situation is such that when some illegal immigrant is trying to hide from the police... their best bet is to duck into a church. You'll be protected there by the clergy, the monks.... and even God!😉

Let me break down the real difference between the Left and the Frankfurt School for you

RELIGION
The Left generally has a pretty negative vibe toward religion, but if they start banning religious symbols, they go after everyone equally

The Frankfurt School, though, usually defends Christian symbols and values, yet in Christian countries, they’re the ones pushing for more mosques and stuff like wearing burkas
They actually back Islamism in Turkey and fight against the secular government over there

SOCIAL ISSUES
The Left is all about workers' rights and that whole social safety net thing

The Frankfurt School is really about extreme liberal capitalism. They want fewer factories owned by locals, and they want immigrants—ideally from different races or religions—to come in and drive down wages

Honestly, if we started complaining about foreign labor taking jobs—at least in Western nations—we’d just be being total hypocrites.

I mean, seriously, have people even stopped to think about why places like Spain, England, or France (...) are so incredibly wealthy today? It's kind of hard to ignore when you look at the big picture.

History has a funny way of circling back around eventually. ☕