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Republican Party's tax grab

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slytinker82 slytinker82 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
We’re getting screwed from both ends at once. You all voted them in, so now we all get stuck with the bill. I still remember those campaign rallies where the brainwashed crowds were chanting names like they were gods.

Here’s my math😛if I lose 3% $1333on my paycheck =$40every single month
when I do the math, 120x12=$480equals $200. That’s seven days at the beach I won't be able to afford.
How am I supposed to explain to my kid, who deals with special needs and constant bronchitis, that we can't go on vacation? Where is that money actually going? (Oh right, probably to certain "patriots" overseas, or maybe the church, or rehab centers for addicts, or those massive shipyards, or maybe just to those useless bureaucrats in government agencies who don't even know why they have jobs in the first place)

DAMN THIEVES, JUST YOU WAIT UNTIL YOU PAY THE PRICE, AND IT COULD BE SOON
And to wrap it up, a line from an old anthem: "The day comes for heroes and the poor alike"

Now it looks like Americans were fighting the wrong enemies back in the 90s, because these guys are way worse
Jose Hayes6 Jose Hayes6 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2009
#2 ·
Back then, things were built for heroes, but those days are long gone... and the little guy? He’s never going to see a thing.☕
slytinker82 slytinker82 NewcomerOP
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#3 ·
Jose Hayes6 said:Back then, things were built for heroes, but those days are long gone... and the little guy? He’s never going to see a thing.☕

I’m looking at today's "heroes," and honestly? It’s a joke. The ones who actually stepped up back in the day? They’re just sitting there taking it, staying quiet while everyone else pushes them around. Meanwhile, this new breed of "hero" is out there running up huge tabs and acting like they own the place. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
mellowbison10 mellowbison10 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2009
#4 ·
Everyone’s whining now, but honestly—what did you expect from this administration? It’s hard to say who’s actually "competent" anymore, but people clearly want these tax hikes... so maybe they should think twice about who they vote for next time. The Republican Party—total spin doctors.
brighthound55 brighthound55 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2009
#5 ·
mellowbison10 said:Everyone’s whining now, but honestly—what did you expect from this administration? It’s hard to say who’s actually "competent" anymore, but people clearly want these tax hikes... so maybe they should think twice about who they vote for next time. The Republican Party—total spin doctors.

And what happens??...The same assholes vote for the Republican Party again....you know how it goes...a little Thompson on TV...then right before the election, a series about WWII heroes....then some crowd talking about the Civil War....and suddenly we're all going to get wiped out by communists....and just like that, the Republican Party wins again.🤷😕
Scott Reed Scott Reed Newcomer
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#6 ·
brighthound55 said:And what happens??...The same assholes vote for the Republican Party again....you know how it goes...a little Thompson on TV...then right before the election, a series about WWII heroes....then some crowd talking about the Civil War....and suddenly we're all going to get wiped out by communists....and just like that, the Republican Party wins again.🤷😕


It’s perfectly obvious, really... when the vast majority of Americans support the Republican Party, you people end up being the tiny minority left to do nothing but complain. To everyone else, everything is working exactly as it should!
hiddensurfer17 hiddensurfer17 Active Member
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joined Jul 2010
#7 ·
slytinker82 said:We’re getting screwed from both ends at once. You all voted them in, so now we all get stuck with the bill. I still remember those campaign rallies where the brainwashed crowds were chanting names like they were gods.

Here’s my math😛if I lose 3% $1333on my paycheck =$40every single month
when I do the math, 120x12=$480equals $200. That’s seven days at the beach I won't be able to afford.
How am I supposed to explain to my kid, who deals with special needs and constant bronchitis, that we can't go on vacation? Where is that money actually going? (Oh right, probably to certain "patriots" overseas, or maybe the church, or rehab centers for addicts, or those massive shipyards, or maybe just to those useless bureaucrats in government agencies who don't even know why they have jobs in the first place)

DAMN THIEVES, JUST YOU WAIT UNTIL YOU PAY THE PRICE, AND IT COULD BE SOON
And to wrap it up, a line from an old anthem: "The day comes for heroes and the poor alike"

Now it looks like Americans were fighting the wrong enemies back in the 90s, because these guys are way worse

I suspect your math might be a bit off here. From what I gather, they're only taxing the portion above $1.00, which is how it was reported on CNN. In other words, if you're pulling in a $4,000 salary, your take-home pay only drops by $10, not $40.
$10 x 12 months = $120 = 50 dollars annually
If that's actually the case, then I suppose this isn't really a direct hit on the working class.
hiddensurfer17 hiddensurfer17 Active Member
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joined Jul 2010
#8 ·
slytinker82 said:We’re getting screwed from both ends at once. You all voted them in, so now we all get stuck with the bill. I still remember those campaign rallies where the brainwashed crowds were chanting names like they were gods.

Here’s my math😛if I lose 3% $1333on my paycheck =$40every single month
when I do the math, 120x12=$480equals $200. That’s seven days at the beach I won't be able to afford.
How am I supposed to explain to my kid, who deals with special needs and constant bronchitis, that we can't go on vacation? Where is that money actually going? (Oh right, probably to certain "patriots" overseas, or maybe the church, or rehab centers for addicts, or those massive shipyards, or maybe just to those useless bureaucrats in government agencies who don't even know why they have jobs in the first place)

DAMN THIEVES, JUST YOU WAIT UNTIL YOU PAY THE PRICE, AND IT COULD BE SOON
And to wrap it up, a line from an old anthem: "The day comes for heroes and the poor alike"

Now it looks like Americans were fighting the wrong enemies back in the 90s, because these guys are way worse

Maybe take a moment to get your head straight.
Jose Hayes6 Jose Hayes6 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2009
#9 ·
I’m convinced the Supreme Court would strike this law down anyway, since the Republican Party's main hobby seems to be passing unconstitutional legislation...☕
brighthound55 brighthound55 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2009
#10 ·
A little something

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ9jzGbgkZc

Let's dance.
Amanda Watson59 Amanda Watson59 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2009
#11 ·
slytinker82 said:We’re getting screwed from both ends at once. You all voted them in, so now we all get stuck with the bill. I still remember those campaign rallies where the brainwashed crowds were chanting names like they were gods.

Here’s my math😛if I lose 3% $1333on my paycheck =$40every single month
when I do the math, 120x12=$480equals $200. That’s seven days at the beach I won't be able to afford.
How am I supposed to explain to my kid, who deals with special needs and constant bronchitis, that we can't go on vacation? Where is that money actually going? (Oh right, probably to certain "patriots" overseas, or maybe the church, or rehab centers for addicts, or those massive shipyards, or maybe just to those useless bureaucrats in government agencies who don't even know why they have jobs in the first place)

DAMN THIEVES, JUST YOU WAIT UNTIL YOU PAY THE PRICE, AND IT COULD BE SOON
And to wrap it up, a line from an old anthem: "The day comes for heroes and the poor alike"

Now it looks like Americans were fighting the wrong enemies back in the 90s, because these guys are way worse

Vera, is that you?...😂
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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joined Sep 2009
#12 ·
Scott Reed said:It’s perfectly obvious, really... when the vast majority of Americans support the Republican Party, you people end up being the tiny minority left to do nothing but complain. To everyone else, everything is working exactly as it should!

We're all seeing what happens when the Republican Party runs things...
neonheron11 neonheron11 Active Member
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joined Oct 2011
#13 ·
I honestly don't get it; I can see this intense wave of rage sweeping through most Americans right now...

I mean, wasn't there an election just recently? Most citizens presumably went out of their way to cast their ballots and support the Republican Party and Dr. Isaac. It’s not like the Republicans just popped up overnight; they held power for four years back in 2003, and then you all gave them a second shot... before you start throwing stones at the administration, maybe take a second to ask yourselves why you voted for them in the first place...

So many people are calling for a public fight, massive protests... okay, fine, go ahead, march in the streets and block the government, but what actually changes?! Even if you did, we're looking at nothing more than a few months of campaigning before a new government is formed, and in the meantime, no radical move that’s actually necessary can be taken because nobody wants to risk the populism surrounding an upcoming election.

You complain about sales tax hikes and new taxes being introduced, but what’s the alternative? There is one: mass layoffs that turn into a social powder keg on the streets.

It’s easy enough to know what you’re against—anyone can do that—but how many people here actually know what they ARE for, what they truly support... beyond the empty slogans of an honest, uncorrupted government, better wages, and higher pensions... which usually end up being nothing more than dead letters on a page...
hiddensurfer17 hiddensurfer17 Active Member
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joined Jul 2010
#14 ·
neonheron11 said:I honestly don't get it; I can see this intense wave of rage sweeping through most Americans right now...

I mean, wasn't there an election just recently? Most citizens presumably went out of their way to cast their ballots and support the Republican Party and Dr. Isaac. It’s not like the Republicans just popped up overnight; they held power for four years back in 2003, and then you all gave them a second shot... before you start throwing stones at the administration, maybe take a second to ask yourselves why you voted for them in the first place...

So many people are calling for a public fight, massive protests... okay, fine, go ahead, march in the streets and block the government, but what actually changes?! Even if you did, we're looking at nothing more than a few months of campaigning before a new government is formed, and in the meantime, no radical move that’s actually necessary can be taken because nobody wants to risk the populism surrounding an upcoming election.

You complain about sales tax hikes and new taxes being introduced, but what’s the alternative? There is one: mass layoffs that turn into a social powder keg on the streets.

It’s easy enough to know what you’re against—anyone can do that—but how many people here actually know what they ARE for, what they truly support... beyond the empty slogans of an honest, uncorrupted government, better wages, and higher pensions... which usually end up being nothing more than dead letters on a page...

You make a fair point. Our opposition seems mostly preoccupied with the idea of seizing power, yet they rarely offer any actual solutions. I suppose the Republican Party is much the same.
By the way, the Republican Party also managed to sweep the local elections just two months ago.
neonheron11 neonheron11 Active Member
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joined Oct 2011
#15 ·
hiddensurfer17 said:You make a fair point. Our opposition seems mostly preoccupied with the idea of seizing power, yet they rarely offer any actual solutions. I suppose the Republican Party is much the same.
By the way, the Republican Party also managed to sweep the local elections just two months ago.

hiddensurfer17, I knew you were a total Republican at heart 🙂

This kind of hypocrisy is just pathetic; instead of everyone taking a hard look in the mirror and asking themselves who they've been backing all these years, people just spit on everyone else to dodge their own responsibility...

I'm sure there are plenty of people here rooting against the Republican Party, but I seriously doubt things would be any different if the Democratic Party had been in charge, because back then they were overspending like crazy too—it just wasn't a global crisis period, so they were just plugging holes. Anyone who doesn't grasp how massive this global crisis really is, or how much every single country is struggling right now, is being as shallow as a 2D photograph.
hiddensurfer17 hiddensurfer17 Active Member
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joined Jul 2010
#16 ·
neonheron11 said:hiddensurfer17, I knew you were a total Republican at heart 🙂

This kind of hypocrisy is just pathetic; instead of everyone taking a hard look in the mirror and asking themselves who they've been backing all these years, people just spit on everyone else to dodge their own responsibility...

I'm sure there are plenty of people here rooting against the Republican Party, but I seriously doubt things would be any different if the Democratic Party had been in charge, because back then they were overspending like crazy too—it just wasn't a global crisis period, so they were just plugging holes. Anyone who doesn't grasp how massive this global crisis really is, or how much every single country is struggling right now, is being as shallow as a 2D photograph.

I wouldn't call myself a Republican, even though I did vote for them in the last two Congressional elections. If there were an election today, I honestly don't know who I'd go for. You're right, though; there isn't much of a functional difference between them when it comes to running the country. I suppose I approached my voting with a sort of left-right logic. It wasn't the Democratic Party itself that bothered me, but rather figures like Pusićka, Čaćić, Mason, Kajin, and the rest of that crowd. You know I'm firmly against communism and any lingering American sentiments. Back in 2000, I voted for Račan's administration, but I ended up disappointed and told myself I wouldn't be that quick to trust again.
slytinker82 slytinker82 NewcomerOP
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#17 ·
hiddensurfer17 said:Maybe take a moment to get your head straight.

Man, you’re 40 years old. You should have some common sense by now. What, were you actually in the war or just blowing smoke? If you really were out there—though I bet you were just guarding the edge of your neighborhood like those loudest "patriots" always are when they start whining about their rights—you’ve probably got PTSD. You’re likely drawing a pension from $2333, maybe even got a subsidized house. You’re first in line at every Republican rally. You aren't even going to feel the tax hikes nearly as much as the rest of us who actually have to work to stay afloat.
hiddensurfer17 hiddensurfer17 Active Member
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joined Jul 2010
#18 ·
slytinker82 said:Man, you’re 40 years old. You should have some common sense by now. What, were you actually in the war or just blowing smoke? If you really were out there—though I bet you were just guarding the edge of your neighborhood like those loudest "patriots" always are when they start whining about their rights—you’ve probably got PTSD. You’re likely drawing a pension from $2333, maybe even got a subsidized house. You’re first in line at every Republican rally. You aren't even going to feel the tax hikes nearly as much as the rest of us who actually have to work to stay afloat.

My involvement in the war was minimal—I think I've made that clear several times already. I served on a volunteer basis during the summer and fall of '91. I wasn't defending Warsaw, I don't suffer from PTSD, and I've never once cashed in on my service. I work for a pretty modest salary at a private firm, I bought my own place, you won't find me at any Republican rallies, and I'll feel the tax burden just as much as anyone else making the same salary I do (which isn't much). Honestly, I'm just angry at the government because they can't seem to get any order within state-run agencies or finally stand up to the unions. But don't expect me to ever take your side.
wirednomad42 wirednomad42 Active Member
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joined Nov 2008
#19 ·
hiddensurfer17 said:I suspect your math might be a bit off here. From what I gather, they're only taxing the portion above $1.00, which is how it was reported on CNN. In other words, if you're pulling in a $4,000 salary, your take-home pay only drops by $10, not $40.
$10 x 12 months = $120 = 50 dollars annually
If that's actually the case, then I suppose this isn't really a direct hit on the working class.

That's exactly what retirees thought too😢
brighthound55 brighthound55 Newcomer
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#20 ·
wirednomad42 said:That's exactly what retirees thought too😢

The Republican Party felt the same way until they realized they didn't have enough cash, so now they're just taxing everything in sight.😠

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