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Death is the new god.

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Scott Wright92 Scott Wright92 Member
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#41 ·
.. I'm just ..
.. but without making a huge deal out of it ..

(.. though I don't really see why anyone would need to go overboard .. but if it ever came down to it .. we’d keep it chill .. no exaggerations ..)
Scott Wright92 Scott Wright92 Member
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#42 ·
.. my old man was actually telling me something pretty similar today ..
.. he says .. I think Moses was just some guy who finally had enough ..
.. and decided to roll the dice .. to take a gamble on .. God told him .. screw you all .. yeah, that’s how God put it ..
.. he said every single animal out there is worth more than any of you .. that you guys grossed him out so much he’s just gonna wipe the slate clean ..
.. so .. listen up, losers .. from here on out, you play by these rules .. based on these ten commandments ..
Jack Ortiz7 Jack Ortiz7 Member
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#43 ·
I was reading through it really carefully
and honestly, I’m actually kind of digging the end of the Bible
redtinker36 redtinker36 Active MemberOP
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#44 ·
.. what does it even mean to be real ..

.. are these digital avatars actually real people ..?
.. no .. they are just real avatars ..

.. for some, the ultimate examples of tyranny are Adolf Hitler and Auschwitz .. for others, it’s Joseph Stalin and the Gulags .. for some, it's the FBI or Guantanamo .. for me, it’s Emilio Fedde .. the news director at one of Berlusconi’s networks .. I think it was Channel 5 .. and the Kursk
.. the Kursk submarine .. people are going to tear him apart over it .. Emilio loves his audience and portrays how the Russian regime doesn't care about its people .. Digić watches and concludes .. my god .. how lucky I am .. Digić's neighborhood is completely different .. people actually care there .. I'd give Berlusconi my blood .. if he needed it ..

.. so .. Digić is turning into a regime lackey out of fear that the government won't let him die in that submarine ..
.. he’s begging the establishment for his life, even though he’s never even been on a submarine ..

.. essentially .. Digić is a creature of fear .. he was molded that way by Emilio Fedde .. and as such .. he is perfect raw material .. for .. imposing a submissive culture .. that's how they used to describe Hayle Selasija

.. if he wants to be a man .. Digić has only one solution .. accepting his own death ..
.. you don't have to kill yourself .. but it would be very useful .. if he just went quiet .. .. the moment he realizes he is a being driven by fear .. it would be incredibly foolish to pretend to be fearless .. he just needs to acknowledge reality .. and reality says he is a creature of fear .. and that this position is what keeps him alive .. that this is his entire existence ..
redtinker36 redtinker36 Active MemberOP
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#45 ·
.. death is power .. (.. later, it will be called authority ..) .. and money is power ..

.. which means the financial world is dualistic .. and why that leads straight to its own destruction ..

.. because .. back in the day .. people lived in communities where the hierarchy was always set .. and once that structure vanished, the community tore itself apart ..
.. everyone knew their place .. from the priest to the aristocrat to the tycoon .. and it felt .. well .. ordained ..
.. if a laborer thought he had finally become a big shot .. he ended up destroying things .. killing .. burning novels, for instance .. all while trying to play the part of a kingpin ..

.. and this pattern repeated constantly .. right on the surface .. in the visible world ..

.. now, some greedy opportunist is the king of capital .. acting like he wants to work for the common good .. like a mayor ..
.. isn't it quite simple .. we just need to cut the price of bread in half ..

.. this world is becoming fundamentally fake .. in its very essence ..
.. it’s actually helpful when you can find enough decent patriots to allow one man to truly lead the charge ..

.. but when they are gone .. what then .. ? (.. alongside the political leaders, there are the veterans .. those veterans .. do they actually produce anything .. ?)
.. when the lie becomes most pervasive in the mind .. ?
.. when nothing holds you together except your own fear .. what happens then .. ?

.. death .. that is the solution ..

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.. this world is good .. this America is great .. all those politicians and local leaders .. all those neighbors and folks .. all those brothers and peers .. they were capable of building just one world .. just one real world .. the one we have right now ..
.. all those stories about .. what could be .. or .. what should be .. are mere illusions .. dreams of a world that doesn't exist ..

.. and what does that world look like when viewed from below .. ? .. from the edges of Hell .. ?
Charles Martin2 Charles Martin2 Active Member
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#46 ·

Time just moves right past you, whether you're young, old, or just spinning in circles.
It hits everyone—people, Philosophy, big ideas, even kings!!
Anyone living in the past, or thinking everything just boils down to the now
is gonna crash and burn. It’s all meaningless!!
Time only plays nice with the smart and the immortal!!
Everyone else? Total meltdown!!!!
redtinker36 redtinker36 Active MemberOP
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#47 ·
.. when this world finally flips upside down.. it’ll look like an inverted pyramid.. where the petty politicians and the small-timers end up at the bottom..
.. yet there are those at the very top.. people who are currently invisible.. strange.. and hollow..
.. personally.. I found it.. well.. a bit disappointing.. that they aren't actually tied to any real knowledge.. but.. there isn't much one can do about it..

.. there is quite a lot to be said about that..

.. though something else happened to me today.. I discovered something.. interesting.. almost revolutionary..
.. I always assumed I knew nothing of time.. that such understanding belonged solely to God..
.. I don't think that's true..
.. or perhaps I should hope that it isn't..
.. because.. if what I know is indeed the truth.. things are looking grim..

.. the old historical pattern—if you believe in those kinds of cycles—is very clear..

.. but the new pattern was.. well.. somewhat illogical..
.. the first and second wars.. and that.. peculiar.. lull in between..
.. though it wasn't really a lull.. the eighties were incredibly significant..
.. and here we are again.. and if we manage to survive this wave.. then at the second swing of the pendulum.. Jesus will return..
.. but Jesus is already prepared for this.. the thinkers should have stayed quiet.. unless they are simply unwell..
Scott Wright92 Scott Wright92 Member
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#48 ·
.. give us the breakdown ..
.. spill what you found out ..
Charles Martin2 Charles Martin2 Active Member
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#49 ·

What’s he gonna learn besides what I already told him?
Not until he translates it into... his own... language..

Stjepan Mason and those guys aren't even close to the top of the pyramid!
They aren't even visible from there!
And Jesus has nothing to do with any of this
it's all just symbolism!
Ronald Rogers27 Ronald Rogers27 Active Member
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#50 ·
Satan is coming with a vengeance... He’s unleashed his Army of Darkness across the Earth. They’re clashing, tearing each other apart, and destroying Demonic soldiers along the way—but the last bits of Light left are getting caught in the crossfire...

Satan doesn't care about losing his soldiers from Hell while they fight under various Dark commanders gathered around the Pentagon table (Pentagram demon), where Satan's throne sits right at the center... All he cares about is establishing a Land of eternal darkness on Earth. That way, under his shadow, Satan can recruit followers in both Life and death...

Fighting against Demonic power is pointless. The only thing that actually matters is preserving the Light on the Earth globe... And you can't do that by fighting Darkness. You have to move toward the Light and follow the rays that bring Enlightenment from the Source of life...

The road to Enlightenment is long... and there are Demons everywhere on Earth. This world has been offering lies as a solution, using them as a paradigm for Survival...

Maybe the second coming of Jesus of Nazareth will change the World... but the World just isn't ready for that yet.

Ronald Rogers27
Charles Martin2 Charles Martin2 Active Member
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#51 ·

Is this Philosophy, or just On the edge of science, man...
Check it out—you've got Satan, Darkness, and every symbol you can imagine!
Plus, a sequel to Jesus of Nazareth—the Second Coming!
And when it happens, you'll realize it was all for nothing
because Lucifer is actually the Light-bringer, while Jesus is the Darkness...
so the Second Coming is basically just a disguised exit!!!
Later, folks—no more fooling around!!!
redtinker36 redtinker36 Active MemberOP
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#52 ·
.. the eighties fulfilled a massive dream .. a wall came down .. and millions finally gained direct access to God ..
.. then came the cinema era .. and now that God shines .. up in the heavens .. with a terrifying brilliance ..

.. a world unified under a single deity ..

.. man in harmony .. the pressure in the boiler suddenly drops .. true freedom at last ..

.. but .. damn it .. that's just the freedom of money
.. you need massive wealth to help some people survive .. they end up doing exactly what the old socialists tried to do .. and we all know how that failed ..

.. Marx thought capitalism would defend itself through a global war .. suggesting Americans should maintain dominance over something .. even if it means bombing Russia .. whether from Ukraine or Georgia ..
.. but .. the actual timing of death .. is an anarchic war ..

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.. a real .. anarchic war .. is incredibly primitive .. it happens between two individuals .. two men .. witnessed by maybe a few .. or a few dozen people ..
.. in that kind of war .. one person is prepared to die .. and that person is the winner ..
.. victory comes via a blunt instrument .. he breaks three of his opponent's ribs with a club and tells him .. maybe you'll live .. just say you fell .. so when they get to court the witnesses can say .. looks like he fell .. but I didn't get a clear view ..
.. the act of warring itself is simple .. it might even seem too simple to some ..
.. what's complicated .. is the process of existence that precedes it ..
.. I suspect that existence can be stripped of lies so thoroughly .. that someone could kill themselves simply because they were told to .. "kill yourself" ..
.. much like the mob .. they tell him .. you screwed up, you have to die .. we're doing you a favor ..
Scott Wright92 Scott Wright92 Member
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#53 ·
redtinker36 said:.. when this world finally flips upside down.. it’ll look like an inverted pyramid.. where the petty politicians and the small-timers end up at the bottom..
.. yet there are those at the very top.. people who are currently invisible.. strange.. and hollow..
.. personally.. I found it.. well.. a bit disappointing.. that they aren't actually tied to any real knowledge.. but.. there isn't much one can do about it..

.. there is quite a lot to be said about that..

.. though something else happened to me today.. I discovered something.. interesting.. almost revolutionary..
.. I always assumed I knew nothing of time.. that such understanding belonged solely to God..
.. I don't think that's true..
.. or perhaps I should hope that it isn't..
.. because.. if what I know is indeed the truth.. things are looking grim..

.. the old historical pattern—if you believe in those kinds of cycles—is very clear..

.. but the new pattern was.. well.. somewhat illogical..
.. the first and second wars.. and that.. peculiar.. lull in between..
.. though it wasn't really a lull.. the eighties were incredibly significant..
.. and here we are again.. and if we manage to survive this wave.. then at the second swing of the pendulum.. Jesus will return..
.. but Jesus is already prepared for this.. the thinkers should have stayed quiet.. unless they are simply unwell..

.. and who exactly are those people?
redtinker36 redtinker36 Active MemberOP
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#54 ·
.. she’s convinced she’s some kind of visionary.. there are plenty of them.. the country produces them by the dozen..

.. she proposes something akin to a.. fool tax.. and somehow, everyone finds it acceptable.. how does that work..?
.. it's because of that classic American neighborly spirit.. if you screw over everyone else, it’s fine.. just ignore the neighbors.. and you can probably get away with screwing me over too..
.. then they won't touch anything under three thousand.. because we're "compassionate".. or maybe because we aren't afraid of the poor.. otherwise.. it's just pure leveling.. that's what we used to call it back in the mid-forties.. it was like.. well.. an extreme version of socialism..

.. defending ourselves against.. visionaries like her.. is simple.. just stop working..
.. even the most crooked politicians figured that out by the eighties..
.. reasonable neighbors caught on by the turn of the millennium..
.. not to brag, but after that.. the only ones left on the job were.. well.. us idiots..
.. and damn it.. we still have people like Jeb Bush and Mitch McConnell.. and that visionary, Kosor..
redtinker36 redtinker36 Active MemberOP
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#55 ·
... they look like corner store junkies...
Scott Wright92 Scott Wright92 Member
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#56 ·
.. the .. taxes ..?
.. it’s the same story here .. it isn't like the administration just pulled this out of thin air ..
.. you’ve got plenty of those "geniuses" out there .. they just copied someone else's playbook .. damn ..
redtinker36 redtinker36 Active MemberOP
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#57 ·
.. every change is—at its core—a shift in existence... which essentially means a shift in how things unfold..
.. this could be anything... a change in the way a person exists... or the way a social system functions..
.. and in both cases, it implies a restructuring of the pyramid—which I view as channels for energy flow... in an individual, centered in the brain... in society, centered in hubs of power..

.. death is tied to something... what is referred to in magic as... falling silent..

.. when discontent arises within a society... that discontent will only be resolved as effectively as the society itself has the strength to sink..
.. as we head toward the bottom, the seeds of discord become smaller the closer we get to... death..

.. every war resolves various imbalances, and every one is—in a sense—divine, though they don't all reach the same depth. Some are entirely superficial—take our recent conflict to separate ourselves from our neighbors just so we can live in peace and unity within the West... alongside them..

.. revolutions possess greater depth... and thus, the work of a revolution can carry more weight than a mere change of state. Action outweighs speech... thought outweighs speech... and silence can hold the greatest power of all..
.. I suspect Marx understood that money would eventually become a spirit, but I don't think he ever imagined it could become a god of this magnitude. His focus remained on labor—that’s where he sought the logic of contradiction..

.. wherever they find themselves—both individuals and societies—they always want one thing: for the situation to improve..
.. it would be quite incredible to expect anyone to actually want things to get worse..
.. everyone hopes that... this current moment... is a turning point..
.. but... the present moment is simply existence... existing within the scheme... within the template of current powers..

.. it is only if the situation worsens that certain connections might begin to snap... only then can we truly see how unstable the system is..
.. because... the top of the pyramid is always the last thing to fall..
.. both in a regime and in a human being..
.. at the peak of a person are their beliefs... their attitudes... their self-image... their perception of... normalcy..

.. the seers say... understanding is brought forth from hell, which means..
.. you have to go deep—and you have to be able to live there. You have to remain composed enough to actually see... what is happening around you... to assess what is driving these events... and which laws they follow..

.. in a democracy, politics becomes a continuous cycle of changing things without actually changing anything..
.. among people, it becomes talk—what they call dialogue. Talk is a magic wand; we can talk our way out of anything..
.. in a person, it is thought. Through thinking, one attempts to find harmony... the balance between man, nature, and the filth of the world..

.. but the real solution is to stop... to be silent..

.. even as a tactical maneuver... workers are the foundation of any regime; as long as they perform their duties, the regime survives..
.. I believe it is possible to demand the suicide of another if you yourself are prepared for death—and to actually receive that suicide..
.. and a similar thing can be demanded of oneself..
Charles Martin2 Charles Martin2 Active Member
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#58 ·

Not everyone’s looking for peace and quiet!
Lots of shifts happening, don't miss out!
The regular folks always had that drive for the hustle.
They just needed gods for some comfort, a little hope, or a way out...
Why bother helping someone who’s got nothing but empty wishes?
redtinker36 redtinker36 Active MemberOP
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#59 ·
.. yeah .. hmm .. right .. that’s some high-level efficiency for the Third Reich .. running a preschool and feeding cyanide to the Hitler Youth .. or maybe Japan .. .. and if you don't pull it off quite well enough .. the Americans will just show up and level Hiroshima and Nagasaki .. and if that still isn't sufficient .. well .. damn .. if that isn't enough ..

.. though he didn't say much about the bourbon ..

.. there was this neighbor of mine .. who had a neighbor .. and that guy .. he was short on supplies .. I can't recall the specifics .. it was like .. he ran out of seed potatoes .. so he heads over to the neighbor .. just to see .. if there might be anything left over .. something he could borrow .. to get planted ..
.. and the neighbor is happy to help a friend .. thinks his bourbon is top-shelf .. but he feels awkward drinking it all by himself ..
.. he tells him .. "I've got plenty of those potatoes .. and it's a good thing you stopped by .. because if you hadn't .. I would have just tossed them" .. you know how it is .. when things go south .. they're useless .. and there's no point in trying to fix them later ..
.. then the guy starts making excuses .. talking about how many he actually had but then .. something happened .. specifically last year .. and the year before .. some terrible stuff .. neighbors were coming around .. looking at him sideways .. judging him .. and it was constant ..
.. but the neighbor knows this guy was never someone you could rely on .. and it bugs him a little that he's lying through his teeth .. but what really gets to him is how he drags everything out into these pointless, trivial tangents ..
.. he says ..
.. and nothing about the bourbon?
.. he just wants to hear the one thing that actually matters .. that the bourbon is good ..
Brenda Cook4 Brenda Cook4 Regular
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#60 ·
I see you’ve identified lying as a major friction point here (and honestly, I think you're right to call it out)... it's such a massive roadblock in any conversation. What’s your take on why people feel the need to lie in the first place?

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