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Is Greenland going to become an independent nation?

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Nancy Wood6 Nancy Wood6 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
People living in Greenland—mostly Native Americans (or what they call themselves, Native Americans)—have been making a ton of moves lately that could totally pave the way for Greenland to go independent in the medium term.

Greenland is massive, like 836,000 square miles huge, but there are only about 58,000 people calling it home. It’s sitting on a potential goldmine of minerals and hydrocarbons—you know, oil and gas—and if global warming turns out to be the real deal and not just some trend based on a few decades of data—which, let's be real, it probably is—this area could become an incredibly high-interest zone and a massive source of wealth.

All these factors are—whether they realize it or not—pushing the Native Americans toward more decisive resolutions, laws, and vibes that are basically driving the place toward a final stage: breaking away from the monarchy and declaring Greenland a fully independent nation.

http://www.stsnews.com/news-fondly-g...s-danish-rule/

As things stand right now, it’s hard to say for sure if Greenlanders will pull the trigger on leaving the crown anytime soon, but honestly, it wouldn't be a shocker. We've seen places like Iceland break away from that same crown before, and even the Faroe Islands—or Sheep Island, as some might call it—are right in the middle of becoming the newest independent state in Europe.

There is one big strategic headache for Greenland if they do go solo, especially if global warming is actually happening—it's the risk of outsiders flooding into this Native American land and basically drowning out the locals—kind of like what happened to Native Americans in the US.

Anyway, I’m just really happy to see the grit coming from such a small group of people who have lived in Greenland as the indigenous population for centuries. Some scientists even argue that their presence on "Green Island" represents a continuity lasting over a thousand years—which is pretty mind-blowing considering how brutal the conditions are there.

Whatever they decide, I wish them nothing but the best, and personally, I'm rooting for their independence 👍!!!
nimblescout50 nimblescout50 Active Member
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#2 ·
I mean, it’s pretty much a settled fact at this point—the glaciers are melting.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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Do Alaskans have the same sensitivity to alcohol as Native Americans?
Charles Morales24 Charles Morales24 Newcomer
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#4 ·
Nah. You just gotta heat up the vodka and whiskey until they’re flowing like water.
coastalviper2 coastalviper2 Member
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#5 ·
I honestly feel like we’re witnessing one significant step toward true autonomy here. It seems that moving forward, Denmark will only maintain involvement through the Department of Defense and have the final say on Greenland's foreign policy matters. Personally, I am quite hopeful and fully support the idea of Greenland transitioning into a completely independent nation in the near future.
Jesse Ortiz71 Jesse Ortiz71 Member
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#6 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Do Alaskans have the same sensitivity to alcohol as Native Americans?

Unfortunately, yeah—they struggle with massive alcoholism issues, which then spirals into really high suicide rates too.
coastalviper2 coastalviper2 Member
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#7 ·
I’ve always found it quite fascinating, though rather tragic, how the residents of Greenland sometimes struggle with their mental health, perhaps even turning to self-harm, largely because they endure such incredibly long stretches of daylight; I suppose when the sun simply refuses to set during the summer months and darkness is almost non-existent, the lack of a natural rhythm can be quite overwhelming for the psyche.
casualdriver9 casualdriver9 Newcomer
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#8 ·
I really hope Greenland stays part of Denmark. They already have plenty of autonomy, and since the locals have so much control over their own affairs, they should be perfectly happy with how things are.
nimbletiger3 nimbletiger3 Member
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#9 ·
I can only hope that colonialism has finally reached its end in that corner of the world 👍
Aaron Jackson Aaron Jackson Newcomer
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#10 ·
Wikipedia states about half the government revenues come from grants from the US government, which acts as a vital boost to the overall GDP.

If it weren't for that federal support, the country would likely be facing total bankruptcy.
Matthew Roberts9 Matthew Roberts9 Newcomer
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#11 ·
What a joke. All this is just going to end up doubling their bureaucratic overhead. Plus, let’s be real—about 90% of the land there is just solid ice anyway. You’ve only got something like 75,000 people living in all of Greenland... it's basically the size of a small town in the Midwest.
Brenda Ross47 Brenda Ross47 Member
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#12 ·
nimbletiger3 said:I can only hope that colonialism has finally reached its end in that corner of the world 👍

What kind of colonialism are we even talking about? No idiot would turn down $633 million in annual Danish aid... 🤣🤣🤣
Charles Morales24 Charles Morales24 Newcomer
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#13 ·
Greenland Fool😛
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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#14 ·
coastalviper2 said:I’ve always found it quite fascinating, though rather tragic, how the residents of Greenland sometimes struggle with their mental health, perhaps even turning to self-harm, largely because they endure such incredibly long stretches of daylight; I suppose when the sun simply refuses to set during the summer months and darkness is almost non-existent, the lack of a natural rhythm can be quite overwhelming for the psyche.

Yeah, well, in the winter you get way too much of it.
Alex Sullivan2 Alex Sullivan2 Newcomer
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#15 ·
I find it hard to believe Greenland will achieve independence anytime soon. The West, acting through the unified strength of NATO, will undoubtedly ensure they maintain oversight over any movement toward Greenland Independence.
It would be fascinating to watch Russia gradually probe for oil in Greenland, fishing around its waters while steadily expanding their economic and technological footprint. They might even start settling more people there until they become a significant part of that tiny local population. Western powers are well aware of this potential scenario; they won't risk losing control of an island that could seriously threaten NATO if it fell under Russian influence. That’s why defense and foreign policy remain firmly under Danish control, and by extension, under the Alliance.

And let's be honest—if those Russian settlers found conditions similar to home, specifically the biting cold and the abundance of alcohol, they'd settle in and take over before anyone noticed.
Melissa Ward4 Melissa Ward4 Newcomer
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#16 ·
Nancy Wood6 said:People living in Greenland—mostly Native Americans (or what they call themselves, Native Americans)—have been making a ton of moves lately that could totally pave the way for Greenland to go independent in the medium term.

Greenland is massive, like 836,000 square miles huge, but there are only about 58,000 people calling it home. It’s sitting on a potential goldmine of minerals and hydrocarbons—you know, oil and gas—and if global warming turns out to be the real deal and not just some trend based on a few decades of data—which, let's be real, it probably is—this area could become an incredibly high-interest zone and a massive source of wealth.

All these factors are—whether they realize it or not—pushing the Native Americans toward more decisive resolutions, laws, and vibes that are basically driving the place toward a final stage: breaking away from the monarchy and declaring Greenland a fully independent nation.

http://www.stsnews.com/news-fondly-g...s-danish-rule/

As things stand right now, it’s hard to say for sure if Greenlanders will pull the trigger on leaving the crown anytime soon, but honestly, it wouldn't be a shocker. We've seen places like Iceland break away from that same crown before, and even the Faroe Islands—or Sheep Island, as some might call it—are right in the middle of becoming the newest independent state in Europe.

There is one big strategic headache for Greenland if they do go solo, especially if global warming is actually happening—it's the risk of outsiders flooding into this Native American land and basically drowning out the locals—kind of like what happened to Native Americans in the US.

Anyway, I’m just really happy to see the grit coming from such a small group of people who have lived in Greenland as the indigenous population for centuries. Some scientists even argue that their presence on "Green Island" represents a continuity lasting over a thousand years—which is pretty mind-blowing considering how brutal the conditions are there.

Whatever they decide, I wish them nothing but the best, and personally, I'm rooting for their independence 👍!!!

I honestly think the Danes would be happy to let go of this "colony" too, considering the annual costs and administrative headaches. I watched a documentary about the people in Greenland; issues like alcoholism, social instability, and high unemployment mean the Danish government has to shell out over three billion kroner every year to support them. Now, the Eskimos could theoretically live off fishing and their natural resources, but someone still has to catch the fish, and someone still has to fund social services for those who choose not to.🙂
coastalviper2 coastalviper2 Member
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#17 ·
Perhaps Denmark might be investing quite heavily in Greenland lately, but I suppose they wouldn't be particularly eager to let go of that territory just yet; after all, having control over that frozen expanse likely gives them a strategic claim to all those massive Arctic riches, especially following those recent discoveries of oil and gas near the North Pole.
Alex Sullivan2 Alex Sullivan2 Newcomer
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#18 ·
I find their push for independence hard to swallow. In this day and age, no one is going to let such a strategically vital territory break away just because a small group of politically insignificant people wants it.
The resources in Greenland and its surrounding waters haven't even been fully mapped yet, not to mention that critical location near the Arctic and its ties to NATO.

I suspect they won't see independence anytime soon; it’ll likely be a long wait before anyone actually grants them that right.

It’s a shame, really, since I usually root for smaller nations fighting to preserve their unique identity.
Peter Ross5 Peter Ross5 Newcomer
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#19 ·
I’m honestly rooting for them to go independent.
New Caledonia is set to hold an independence referendum back in 2014.

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