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How realistic is the idea of a United States of America?

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Rebecca Roberts3 Rebecca Roberts3 Member
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joined Apr 2013
#101 ·
Maria Booth said:The whole idea of economic sovereignty is totally old school, like something straight out of the 19th century. In today's globalized world, massive corporations are calling the shots. Government bureaucracies just can't move fast enough to keep up with how crazy quick the global market shifts these days!

By that logic, political, military, and even individual sovereignty are equally obsolete. If we follow this trajectory, why bother with nation-states at all? We might as well just let corporations take over the role entirely.
Maria Booth Maria Booth Active Member
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joined Sep 2014
#102 ·
Rebecca Roberts3 said:By that logic, political, military, and even individual sovereignty are equally obsolete. If we follow this trajectory, why bother with nation-states at all? We might as well just let corporations take over the role entirely.


The whole idea of monetary sovereignty is super old-fashioned. Honestly, I think the dollar, the euro, and the yuan are gonna be the only ones that actually matter globally down the road.
But look, governments still hold the monopoly on force—you know, the police and the military. They’re actually pretty good at keeping things steady because people are willing to follow leaders who share their own background. An American is gonna respect an American general or cop, but they aren't about to take orders from someone from a different country.
That’s why we still need nations.
In terms of economics? Not really needed. Decisions about what gets made and what it costs don't happen in Washington, D.C. or Brussels anymore—it happens in shopping malls everywhere! Shoppers basically have the economic power now, voting every single day with their wallets on what gets produced and how much.
Jeffrey Wood Jeffrey Wood Active Member
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joined May 2013
#103 ·
Maria Booth said:The whole idea of economic sovereignty is totally old school, like something straight out of the 19th century. In today's globalized world, massive corporations are calling the shots. Government bureaucracies just can't move fast enough to keep up with how crazy quick the global market shifts these days!


Wow, absolute genius right there. You just forgot to mention that the big-shot superpowers aren't giving up an ounce of their power—it's only small-timers like us who end up getting screwed.
Peter Edwards Peter Edwards Member
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joined Jan 2014
#104 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:The European Union is hitting a wall right now—politically, economically, socially... it’s a mess.

But look, if they stick to the Washington, D.C. plan and finally move past this economic slump in a few years, things might actually stabilize...

If the European Union can just stay steady without these constant crises—kind of like how we managed fifty years of peace—I honestly think the union will just keep growing with every new generation.

The big question is, how far does it go?

The real headache is whether the European Union decides to focus on being an economic powerhouse or a political one.

Think about the USA. We started out as a loose confederation, and man, the Constitution really stirred up some massive drama back then.

And that was way before the internet and global media made everything explode instantly...

Personally, I don't see the European Union falling apart. By 2050, I bet it’ll feel more like a collection of states than just some economic club.


Personally, I feel like the fix for the European Union is going back to how things were before 1992—you know, like that era before 2004 membership.

It’s either that, or the whole thing breaks into factions or just completely dissolves.

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