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#61 ·
Gregory Ramirez2 said:Ibra—hey, maybe it works for you because in German, the word for sect actually sounds like sparkling wine! So basically, you're just getting into everyone's heads in the best way possible and making us all feel happy/happier/more upbeat! 👍

So yeah, being a "cultist" might just mean you're part of a little batch of bubbly champagne! 🙂

That’s definitely a possibility; I hadn't even considered that... 🙂

Roger Cooper91 said:Poor Ibro, always playing the victim..

1. I’ve reported Exotericon myself more than once; if nobody else is reacting, that’s not on me. And yes, I called him out specifically because of what you call "charlatanism":
http://www.reddit.com/r/forum/1125447 ☕

2. I also said he isn't funny. I’m not part of your little cult where I have to speak on behalf of everyone who thinks he *is* entertaining. Let him explain himself. ☕

3. To be honest, I didn't think much of you before. I've been active on this sub-forum for a while, but back when I reported Rorion—when even the previous moderator tried to give him a "friendly warning" first because they were baffled by his behavior—there you were, defending him against "persecution." Even though his vocabulary was almost identical to Exotericon's (which actually made me think they were the same person for a few days). Back then, you didn't seem to mind his crude language about shoving things down throats, his antisemitism, and so on, or how he would just jump into a thread out of nowhere without any constructive input, just to say stuff like "you're stupid," or "look in the mirror, moron." Yeah, that's when I remembered you as someone who plays dumb just to aggressively defend your buddy. I already provided the link to that thread. ☕

4. Furthermore, I saw your hypocrisy firsthand when you defended another user who was provoking and insulting people by calling them clones. This was a user who had actually been punished for that exact violation. You didn't see an issue with it—not as an insult, not as trolling, nor as a breach of the standard practice on other subreddits where moderators would promptly shut down a "who is whose clone" debate and hand out penalties. No, to you, it wasn't a problem. And here you are, defending that kind of behavior. ☕

5. This habit of labeling people as clones is just a thing a few of you do, which is exactly why I consider you a cult. Among those who disagree with you, I’ve noticed maybe one or two users who went after Bonecrusher over proven cloning. I don't need to provide links; it's all right there in this thread too. You even go out of your way to call me a clone without provocation, even though I was just making a harmless point about an unverified statement being attributed to someone and questioning its relevance to the topic. And you actually consider that an attack, 🤦 so that tells you everything you need to know about your authority to judge who is being "attacked." Link:
http://www.reddit.com/r/forum/1125447

6. You admit yourself that other users have to notify you when they are debunking people you're ignoring (your cult's terminology is that they are "attacking" you). If you don't care about those users, why don't you just shut it down? Why do you let these messengers keep reporting those users' activities to you if you're so "cool"? It's a cult. ☕

7. On top of that, you messed up when you called Exotericon a clone of another dissenter. And you admitted—publicly, mind you—that you started a campaign against that other dissenter via private messages. Since then, one of your followers has been relentlessly pushing that same narrative. Cult. ☕

8. Looking at everything said, it's obvious that you initiated certain attacks, yet you try to distance yourself from them or simply stay silent about the mess you cooked up. Cult. ☕

9. And now you want to "settle this privately"? You could have just sent me a DM from the start. 😁

He's been flying under the radar for nearly a year now; there isn't really anyone to report him to, other than opening a thread about him here on PŽK. You know as well as I do that the alternative PDF hasn't had a moderator in ages, so clicking that little triangle icon feels pretty much like shouting into a void. 🤷
That’s exactly why this thread was started, and honestly, I'm quite surprised there hasn't been any reaction from the higher-ups regarding this endless stream of insults from the same individual we've been linking. 😕

Roger Cooper91 said:Poor Ibro, always playing the victim..

1. I’ve reported Exotericon myself more than once; if nobody else is reacting, that’s not on me. And yes, I called him out specifically because of what you call "charlatanism":
http://www.reddit.com/r/forum/1125447 ☕

2. I also said he isn't funny. I’m not part of your little cult where I have to speak on behalf of everyone who thinks he *is* entertaining. Let him explain himself. ☕

3. To be honest, I didn't think much of you before. I've been active on this sub-forum for a while, but back when I reported Rorion—when even the previous moderator tried to give him a "friendly warning" first because they were baffled by his behavior—there you were, defending him against "persecution." Even though his vocabulary was almost identical to Exotericon's (which actually made me think they were the same person for a few days). Back then, you didn't seem to mind his crude language about shoving things down throats, his antisemitism, and so on, or how he would just jump into a thread out of nowhere without any constructive input, just to say stuff like "you're stupid," or "look in the mirror, moron." Yeah, that's when I remembered you as someone who plays dumb just to aggressively defend your buddy. I already provided the link to that thread. ☕

4. Furthermore, I saw your hypocrisy firsthand when you defended another user who was provoking and insulting people by calling them clones. This was a user who had actually been punished for that exact violation. You didn't see an issue with it—not as an insult, not as trolling, nor as a breach of the standard practice on other subreddits where moderators would promptly shut down a "who is whose clone" debate and hand out penalties. No, to you, it wasn't a problem. And here you are, defending that kind of behavior. ☕

5. This habit of labeling people as clones is just a thing a few of you do, which is exactly why I consider you a cult. Among those who disagree with you, I’ve noticed maybe one or two users who went after Bonecrusher over proven cloning. I don't need to provide links; it's all right there in this thread too. You even go out of your way to call me a clone without provocation, even though I was just making a harmless point about an unverified statement being attributed to someone and questioning its relevance to the topic. And you actually consider that an attack, 🤦 so that tells you everything you need to know about your authority to judge who is being "attacked." Link:
http://www.reddit.com/r/forum/1125447

6. You admit yourself that other users have to notify you when they are debunking people you're ignoring (your cult's terminology is that they are "attacking" you). If you don't care about those users, why don't you just shut it down? Why do you let these messengers keep reporting those users' activities to you if you're so "cool"? It's a cult. ☕

7. On top of that, you messed up when you called Exotericon a clone of another dissenter. And you admitted—publicly, mind you—that you started a campaign against that other dissenter via private messages. Since then, one of your followers has been relentlessly pushing that same narrative. Cult. ☕

8. Looking at everything said, it's obvious that you initiated certain attacks, yet you try to distance yourself from them or simply stay silent about the mess you cooked up. Cult. ☕

9. And now you want to "settle this privately"? You could have just sent me a DM from the start. 😁

Who exactly are these "sect members"? 🤔
Could you perhaps list them and clarify what you mean?
I wasn't calling you that either; I simply said some people say they find him amusing. .
I don't think any sane person would find it entertaining when someone is constantly insulting everyone around them.
But apparently, those are the types who find it funny, whereas I certainly do not. 😁

Roger Cooper91 said:Poor Ibro, always playing the victim..

1. I’ve reported Exotericon myself more than once; if nobody else is reacting, that’s not on me. And yes, I called him out specifically because of what you call "charlatanism":
http://www.reddit.com/r/forum/1125447 ☕

2. I also said he isn't funny. I’m not part of your little cult where I have to speak on behalf of everyone who thinks he *is* entertaining. Let him explain himself. ☕

3. To be honest, I didn't think much of you before. I've been active on this sub-forum for a while, but back when I reported Rorion—when even the previous moderator tried to give him a "friendly warning" first because they were baffled by his behavior—there you were, defending him against "persecution." Even though his vocabulary was almost identical to Exotericon's (which actually made me think they were the same person for a few days). Back then, you didn't seem to mind his crude language about shoving things down throats, his antisemitism, and so on, or how he would just jump into a thread out of nowhere without any constructive input, just to say stuff like "you're stupid," or "look in the mirror, moron." Yeah, that's when I remembered you as someone who plays dumb just to aggressively defend your buddy. I already provided the link to that thread. ☕

4. Furthermore, I saw your hypocrisy firsthand when you defended another user who was provoking and insulting people by calling them clones. This was a user who had actually been punished for that exact violation. You didn't see an issue with it—not as an insult, not as trolling, nor as a breach of the standard practice on other subreddits where moderators would promptly shut down a "who is whose clone" debate and hand out penalties. No, to you, it wasn't a problem. And here you are, defending that kind of behavior. ☕

5. This habit of labeling people as clones is just a thing a few of you do, which is exactly why I consider you a cult. Among those who disagree with you, I’ve noticed maybe one or two users who went after Bonecrusher over proven cloning. I don't need to provide links; it's all right there in this thread too. You even go out of your way to call me a clone without provocation, even though I was just making a harmless point about an unverified statement being attributed to someone and questioning its relevance to the topic. And you actually consider that an attack, 🤦 so that tells you everything you need to know about your authority to judge who is being "attacked." Link:
http://www.reddit.com/r/forum/1125447

6. You admit yourself that other users have to notify you when they are debunking people you're ignoring (your cult's terminology is that they are "attacking" you). If you don't care about those users, why don't you just shut it down? Why do you let these messengers keep reporting those users' activities to you if you're so "cool"? It's a cult. ☕

7. On top of that, you messed up when you called Exotericon a clone of another dissenter. And you admitted—publicly, mind you—that you started a campaign against that other dissenter via private messages. Since then, one of your followers has been relentlessly pushing that same narrative. Cult. ☕

8. Looking at everything said, it's obvious that you initiated certain attacks, yet you try to distance yourself from them or simply stay silent about the mess you cooked up. Cult. ☕

9. And now you want to "settle this privately"? You could have just sent me a DM from the start. 😁

Given all that, do you personally believe that Quote : Exotericon deserves a permanent ban, similar to the one Rorion received for that kind of language?
This question applies to the supermods and admins as well.

Roger Cooper91 said:Poor Ibro, always playing the victim..

1. I’ve reported Exotericon myself more than once; if nobody else is reacting, that’s not on me. And yes, I called him out specifically because of what you call "charlatanism":
http://www.reddit.com/r/forum/1125447 ☕

2. I also said he isn't funny. I’m not part of your little cult where I have to speak on behalf of everyone who thinks he *is* entertaining. Let him explain himself. ☕

3. To be honest, I didn't think much of you before. I've been active on this sub-forum for a while, but back when I reported Rorion—when even the previous moderator tried to give him a "friendly warning" first because they were baffled by his behavior—there you were, defending him against "persecution." Even though his vocabulary was almost identical to Exotericon's (which actually made me think they were the same person for a few days). Back then, you didn't seem to mind his crude language about shoving things down throats, his antisemitism, and so on, or how he would just jump into a thread out of nowhere without any constructive input, just to say stuff like "you're stupid," or "look in the mirror, moron." Yeah, that's when I remembered you as someone who plays dumb just to aggressively defend your buddy. I already provided the link to that thread. ☕

4. Furthermore, I saw your hypocrisy firsthand when you defended another user who was provoking and insulting people by calling them clones. This was a user who had actually been punished for that exact violation. You didn't see an issue with it—not as an insult, not as trolling, nor as a breach of the standard practice on other subreddits where moderators would promptly shut down a "who is whose clone" debate and hand out penalties. No, to you, it wasn't a problem. And here you are, defending that kind of behavior. ☕

5. This habit of labeling people as clones is just a thing a few of you do, which is exactly why I consider you a cult. Among those who disagree with you, I’ve noticed maybe one or two users who went after Bonecrusher over proven cloning. I don't need to provide links; it's all right there in this thread too. You even go out of your way to call me a clone without provocation, even though I was just making a harmless point about an unverified statement being attributed to someone and questioning its relevance to the topic. And you actually consider that an attack, 🤦 so that tells you everything you need to know about your authority to judge who is being "attacked." Link:
http://www.reddit.com/r/forum/1125447

6. You admit yourself that other users have to notify you when they are debunking people you're ignoring (your cult's terminology is that they are "attacking" you). If you don't care about those users, why don't you just shut it down? Why do you let these messengers keep reporting those users' activities to you if you're so "cool"? It's a cult. ☕

7. On top of that, you messed up when you called Exotericon a clone of another dissenter. And you admitted—publicly, mind you—that you started a campaign against that other dissenter via private messages. Since then, one of your followers has been relentlessly pushing that same narrative. Cult. ☕

8. Looking at everything said, it's obvious that you initiated certain attacks, yet you try to distance yourself from them or simply stay silent about the mess you cooked up. Cult. ☕

9. And now you want to "settle this privately"? You could have just sent me a DM from the start. 😁

Could you send me the link? I don't want to go hunting for it right now since I'm in a bit of a rush. Actually, just send it via PP; I'd rather not keep discussing this here.

Roger Cooper91 said:Poor Ibro, always playing the victim..

1. I’ve reported Exotericon myself more than once; if nobody else is reacting, that’s not on me. And yes, I called him out specifically because of what you call "charlatanism":
http://www.reddit.com/r/forum/1125447 ☕

2. I also said he isn't funny. I’m not part of your little cult where I have to speak on behalf of everyone who thinks he *is* entertaining. Let him explain himself. ☕

3. To be honest, I didn't think much of you before. I've been active on this sub-forum for a while, but back when I reported Rorion—when even the previous moderator tried to give him a "friendly warning" first because they were baffled by his behavior—there you were, defending him against "persecution." Even though his vocabulary was almost identical to Exotericon's (which actually made me think they were the same person for a few days). Back then, you didn't seem to mind his crude language about shoving things down throats, his antisemitism, and so on, or how he would just jump into a thread out of nowhere without any constructive input, just to say stuff like "you're stupid," or "look in the mirror, moron." Yeah, that's when I remembered you as someone who plays dumb just to aggressively defend your buddy. I already provided the link to that thread. ☕

4. Furthermore, I saw your hypocrisy firsthand when you defended another user who was provoking and insulting people by calling them clones. This was a user who had actually been punished for that exact violation. You didn't see an issue with it—not as an insult, not as trolling, nor as a breach of the standard practice on other subreddits where moderators would promptly shut down a "who is whose clone" debate and hand out penalties. No, to you, it wasn't a problem. And here you are, defending that kind of behavior. ☕

5. This habit of labeling people as clones is just a thing a few of you do, which is exactly why I consider you a cult. Among those who disagree with you, I’ve noticed maybe one or two users who went after Bonecrusher over proven cloning. I don't need to provide links; it's all right there in this thread too. You even go out of your way to call me a clone without provocation, even though I was just making a harmless point about an unverified statement being attributed to someone and questioning its relevance to the topic. And you actually consider that an attack, 🤦 so that tells you everything you need to know about your authority to judge who is being "attacked." Link:
http://www.reddit.com/r/forum/1125447

6. You admit yourself that other users have to notify you when they are debunking people you're ignoring (your cult's terminology is that they are "attacking" you). If you don't care about those users, why don't you just shut it down? Why do you let these messengers keep reporting those users' activities to you if you're so "cool"? It's a cult. ☕

7. On top of that, you messed up when you called Exotericon a clone of another dissenter. And you admitted—publicly, mind you—that you started a campaign against that other dissenter via private messages. Since then, one of your followers has been relentlessly pushing that same narrative. Cult. ☕

8. Looking at everything said, it's obvious that you initiated certain attacks, yet you try to distance yourself from them or simply stay silent about the mess you cooked up. Cult. ☕

9. And now you want to "settle this privately"? You could have just sent me a DM from the start. 😁

And you're the one unprovokedly calling me a cultist and other names... I've already explained all that other stuff.

Roger Cooper91 said:Poor Ibro, always playing the victim..

1. I’ve reported Exotericon myself more than once; if nobody else is reacting, that’s not on me. And yes, I called him out specifically because of what you call "charlatanism":
http://www.reddit.com/r/forum/1125447 ☕

2. I also said he isn't funny. I’m not part of your little cult where I have to speak on behalf of everyone who thinks he *is* entertaining. Let him explain himself. ☕

3. To be honest, I didn't think much of you before. I've been active on this sub-forum for a while, but back when I reported Rorion—when even the previous moderator tried to give him a "friendly warning" first because they were baffled by his behavior—there you were, defending him against "persecution." Even though his vocabulary was almost identical to Exotericon's (which actually made me think they were the same person for a few days). Back then, you didn't seem to mind his crude language about shoving things down throats, his antisemitism, and so on, or how he would just jump into a thread out of nowhere without any constructive input, just to say stuff like "you're stupid," or "look in the mirror, moron." Yeah, that's when I remembered you as someone who plays dumb just to aggressively defend your buddy. I already provided the link to that thread. ☕

4. Furthermore, I saw your hypocrisy firsthand when you defended another user who was provoking and insulting people by calling them clones. This was a user who had actually been punished for that exact violation. You didn't see an issue with it—not as an insult, not as trolling, nor as a breach of the standard practice on other subreddits where moderators would promptly shut down a "who is whose clone" debate and hand out penalties. No, to you, it wasn't a problem. And here you are, defending that kind of behavior. ☕

5. This habit of labeling people as clones is just a thing a few of you do, which is exactly why I consider you a cult. Among those who disagree with you, I’ve noticed maybe one or two users who went after Bonecrusher over proven cloning. I don't need to provide links; it's all right there in this thread too. You even go out of your way to call me a clone without provocation, even though I was just making a harmless point about an unverified statement being attributed to someone and questioning its relevance to the topic. And you actually consider that an attack, 🤦 so that tells you everything you need to know about your authority to judge who is being "attacked." Link:
http://www.reddit.com/r/forum/1125447

6. You admit yourself that other users have to notify you when they are debunking people you're ignoring (your cult's terminology is that they are "attacking" you). If you don't care about those users, why don't you just shut it down? Why do you let these messengers keep reporting those users' activities to you if you're so "cool"? It's a cult. ☕

7. On top of that, you messed up when you called Exotericon a clone of another dissenter. And you admitted—publicly, mind you—that you started a campaign against that other dissenter via private messages. Since then, one of your followers has been relentlessly pushing that same narrative. Cult. ☕

8. Looking at everything said, it's obvious that you initiated certain attacks, yet you try to distance yourself from them or simply stay silent about the mess you cooked up. Cult. ☕

9. And now you want to "settle this privately"? You could have just sent me a DM from the start. 😁

I don't know if anyone is refuting me, nor does it really matter to me.
If I actually cared about what any of them had to say, I wouldn't have put them on ignore in the first place.

Roger Cooper91 said:Poor Ibro, always playing the victim..

1. I’ve reported Exotericon myself more than once; if nobody else is reacting, that’s not on me. And yes, I called him out specifically because of what you call "charlatanism":
http://www.reddit.com/r/forum/1125447 ☕

2. I also said he isn't funny. I’m not part of your little cult where I have to speak on behalf of everyone who thinks he *is* entertaining. Let him explain himself. ☕

3. To be honest, I didn't think much of you before. I've been active on this sub-forum for a while, but back when I reported Rorion—when even the previous moderator tried to give him a "friendly warning" first because they were baffled by his behavior—there you were, defending him against "persecution." Even though his vocabulary was almost identical to Exotericon's (which actually made me think they were the same person for a few days). Back then, you didn't seem to mind his crude language about shoving things down throats, his antisemitism, and so on, or how he would just jump into a thread out of nowhere without any constructive input, just to say stuff like "you're stupid," or "look in the mirror, moron." Yeah, that's when I remembered you as someone who plays dumb just to aggressively defend your buddy. I already provided the link to that thread. ☕

4. Furthermore, I saw your hypocrisy firsthand when you defended another user who was provoking and insulting people by calling them clones. This was a user who had actually been punished for that exact violation. You didn't see an issue with it—not as an insult, not as trolling, nor as a breach of the standard practice on other subreddits where moderators would promptly shut down a "who is whose clone" debate and hand out penalties. No, to you, it wasn't a problem. And here you are, defending that kind of behavior. ☕

5. This habit of labeling people as clones is just a thing a few of you do, which is exactly why I consider you a cult. Among those who disagree with you, I’ve noticed maybe one or two users who went after Bonecrusher over proven cloning. I don't need to provide links; it's all right there in this thread too. You even go out of your way to call me a clone without provocation, even though I was just making a harmless point about an unverified statement being attributed to someone and questioning its relevance to the topic. And you actually consider that an attack, 🤦 so that tells you everything you need to know about your authority to judge who is being "attacked." Link:
http://www.reddit.com/r/forum/1125447

6. You admit yourself that other users have to notify you when they are debunking people you're ignoring (your cult's terminology is that they are "attacking" you). If you don't care about those users, why don't you just shut it down? Why do you let these messengers keep reporting those users' activities to you if you're so "cool"? It's a cult. ☕

7. On top of that, you messed up when you called Exotericon a clone of another dissenter. And you admitted—publicly, mind you—that you started a campaign against that other dissenter via private messages. Since then, one of your followers has been relentlessly pushing that same narrative. Cult. ☕

8. Looking at everything said, it's obvious that you initiated certain attacks, yet you try to distance yourself from them or simply stay silent about the mess you cooked up. Cult. ☕

9. And now you want to "settle this privately"? You could have just sent me a DM from the start. 😁

It’s been handled. I have several people on my ignore list whom I don't bother reading at all.
As for the fact that someone I chat with privately occasionally mentions how the same group of people follows me around and attacks every single one of my posts—well, that's just spontaneous. No one can stop them from doing that, I suppose. But I have already told certain individuals that I simply don't care about anything involving those people, and I’ve even suggested to some that they should ignore them too, rather than wasting their precious time and energy.

Roger Cooper91 said:Poor Ibro, always playing the victim..

1. I’ve reported Exotericon myself more than once; if nobody else is reacting, that’s not on me. And yes, I called him out specifically because of what you call "charlatanism":
http://www.reddit.com/r/forum/1125447 ☕

2. I also said he isn't funny. I’m not part of your little cult where I have to speak on behalf of everyone who thinks he *is* entertaining. Let him explain himself. ☕

3. To be honest, I didn't think much of you before. I've been active on this sub-forum for a while, but back when I reported Rorion—when even the previous moderator tried to give him a "friendly warning" first because they were baffled by his behavior—there you were, defending him against "persecution." Even though his vocabulary was almost identical to Exotericon's (which actually made me think they were the same person for a few days). Back then, you didn't seem to mind his crude language about shoving things down throats, his antisemitism, and so on, or how he would just jump into a thread out of nowhere without any constructive input, just to say stuff like "you're stupid," or "look in the mirror, moron." Yeah, that's when I remembered you as someone who plays dumb just to aggressively defend your buddy. I already provided the link to that thread. ☕

4. Furthermore, I saw your hypocrisy firsthand when you defended another user who was provoking and insulting people by calling them clones. This was a user who had actually been punished for that exact violation. You didn't see an issue with it—not as an insult, not as trolling, nor as a breach of the standard practice on other subreddits where moderators would promptly shut down a "who is whose clone" debate and hand out penalties. No, to you, it wasn't a problem. And here you are, defending that kind of behavior. ☕

5. This habit of labeling people as clones is just a thing a few of you do, which is exactly why I consider you a cult. Among those who disagree with you, I’ve noticed maybe one or two users who went after Bonecrusher over proven cloning. I don't need to provide links; it's all right there in this thread too. You even go out of your way to call me a clone without provocation, even though I was just making a harmless point about an unverified statement being attributed to someone and questioning its relevance to the topic. And you actually consider that an attack, 🤦 so that tells you everything you need to know about your authority to judge who is being "attacked." Link:
http://www.reddit.com/r/forum/1125447

6. You admit yourself that other users have to notify you when they are debunking people you're ignoring (your cult's terminology is that they are "attacking" you). If you don't care about those users, why don't you just shut it down? Why do you let these messengers keep reporting those users' activities to you if you're so "cool"? It's a cult. ☕

7. On top of that, you messed up when you called Exotericon a clone of another dissenter. And you admitted—publicly, mind you—that you started a campaign against that other dissenter via private messages. Since then, one of your followers has been relentlessly pushing that same narrative. Cult. ☕

8. Looking at everything said, it's obvious that you initiated certain attacks, yet you try to distance yourself from them or simply stay silent about the mess you cooked up. Cult. ☕

9. And now you want to "settle this privately"? You could have just sent me a DM from the start. 😁

You don't actually know what I wrote in my private messages... or do you?
I don't have followers; I just have people who agree with me.

Roger Cooper91 said:Poor Ibro, always playing the victim..

1. I’ve reported Exotericon myself more than once; if nobody else is reacting, that’s not on me. And yes, I called him out specifically because of what you call "charlatanism":
http://www.reddit.com/r/forum/1125447 ☕

2. I also said he isn't funny. I’m not part of your little cult where I have to speak on behalf of everyone who thinks he *is* entertaining. Let him explain himself. ☕

3. To be honest, I didn't think much of you before. I've been active on this sub-forum for a while, but back when I reported Rorion—when even the previous moderator tried to give him a "friendly warning" first because they were baffled by his behavior—there you were, defending him against "persecution." Even though his vocabulary was almost identical to Exotericon's (which actually made me think they were the same person for a few days). Back then, you didn't seem to mind his crude language about shoving things down throats, his antisemitism, and so on, or how he would just jump into a thread out of nowhere without any constructive input, just to say stuff like "you're stupid," or "look in the mirror, moron." Yeah, that's when I remembered you as someone who plays dumb just to aggressively defend your buddy. I already provided the link to that thread. ☕

4. Furthermore, I saw your hypocrisy firsthand when you defended another user who was provoking and insulting people by calling them clones. This was a user who had actually been punished for that exact violation. You didn't see an issue with it—not as an insult, not as trolling, nor as a breach of the standard practice on other subreddits where moderators would promptly shut down a "who is whose clone" debate and hand out penalties. No, to you, it wasn't a problem. And here you are, defending that kind of behavior. ☕

5. This habit of labeling people as clones is just a thing a few of you do, which is exactly why I consider you a cult. Among those who disagree with you, I’ve noticed maybe one or two users who went after Bonecrusher over proven cloning. I don't need to provide links; it's all right there in this thread too. You even go out of your way to call me a clone without provocation, even though I was just making a harmless point about an unverified statement being attributed to someone and questioning its relevance to the topic. And you actually consider that an attack, 🤦 so that tells you everything you need to know about your authority to judge who is being "attacked." Link:
http://www.reddit.com/r/forum/1125447

6. You admit yourself that other users have to notify you when they are debunking people you're ignoring (your cult's terminology is that they are "attacking" you). If you don't care about those users, why don't you just shut it down? Why do you let these messengers keep reporting those users' activities to you if you're so "cool"? It's a cult. ☕

7. On top of that, you messed up when you called Exotericon a clone of another dissenter. And you admitted—publicly, mind you—that you started a campaign against that other dissenter via private messages. Since then, one of your followers has been relentlessly pushing that same narrative. Cult. ☕

8. Looking at everything said, it's obvious that you initiated certain attacks, yet you try to distance yourself from them or simply stay silent about the mess you cooked up. Cult. ☕

9. And now you want to "settle this privately"? You could have just sent me a DM from the start. 😁

Well, you could have done the same instead of snapping at me without provocation and resorting to tasteless insults.
To be perfectly clear regarding the timeline, I did mention my suspicions that you were a clone during the period when you were harassing me for no reason and using those names I mentioned earlier.

I suggest we wrap this up because it's getting off-topic, and we should probably get back to the actual subject.
If you want to continue this, you have my DMs; I won't be responding to this here anymore.
Have a pleasant day, to you and everyone else reading! 👋
Roger Cooper91 Roger Cooper91 Member
24 messages
joined Jun 2014
#62 ·
Elizabeth Jackson,
I’m done sending you links. I’ve already laid everything out right here on this thread, and frankly, I couldn't care less about people who choose to ignore half the conversation. Everything else has been made crystal clear, and I have no intention of repeating myself.

To address the most critical point—even though my stance hasn't changed in ages—yes, I expect immediate and consistent disciplinary action ever since that user told a female member to go screw the moderators.

To expand on that slightly, I also expect penalties for every off-topic tangent where someone starts the whole "who are you a clone of" routine; there should be a warning first, followed by a ban. The same goes for those playing the "I'm just acting stupid" card.

On another note, it’s obvious my expectations are unrealistic. It’s just as unrealistic to think some guy here is going to fulfill a promise and jump off a skyscraper just because of me.

Llena,
you're overthinking this. It makes it look like Nica is standing against every single person on this Reddit, even though they definitely don't share her views.
Arthur Smith15 Arthur Smith15 Member
41 messages
joined Nov 2021
#63 ·
Elizabeth Jackson said:That’s definitely a possibility; I hadn't even considered that... 🙂

He's been flying under the radar for nearly a year now; there isn't really anyone to report him to, other than opening a thread about him here on PŽK. You know as well as I do that the alternative PDF hasn't had a moderator in ages, so clicking that little triangle icon feels pretty much like shouting into a void. 🤷
That’s exactly why this thread was started, and honestly, I'm quite surprised there hasn't been any reaction from the higher-ups regarding this endless stream of insults from the same individual we've been linking. 😕

Who exactly are these "sect members"? 🤔
Could you perhaps list them and clarify what you mean?
I wasn't calling you that either; I simply said some people say they find him amusing. .
I don't think any sane person would find it entertaining when someone is constantly insulting everyone around them.
But apparently, those are the types who find it funny, whereas I certainly do not. 😁

Given all that, do you personally believe that Quote : Exotericon deserves a permanent ban, similar to the one Rorion received for that kind of language?
This question applies to the supermods and admins as well.

Could you send me the link? I don't want to go hunting for it right now since I'm in a bit of a rush. Actually, just send it via PP; I'd rather not keep discussing this here.

And you're the one unprovokedly calling me a cultist and other names... I've already explained all that other stuff.

I don't know if anyone is refuting me, nor does it really matter to me.
If I actually cared about what any of them had to say, I wouldn't have put them on ignore in the first place.

It’s been handled. I have several people on my ignore list whom I don't bother reading at all.
As for the fact that someone I chat with privately occasionally mentions how the same group of people follows me around and attacks every single one of my posts—well, that's just spontaneous. No one can stop them from doing that, I suppose. But I have already told certain individuals that I simply don't care about anything involving those people, and I’ve even suggested to some that they should ignore them too, rather than wasting their precious time and energy.

You don't actually know what I wrote in my private messages... or do you?
I don't have followers; I just have people who agree with me.

Well, you could have done the same instead of snapping at me without provocation and resorting to tasteless insults.
To be perfectly clear regarding the timeline, I did mention my suspicions that you were a clone during the period when you were harassing me for no reason and using those names I mentioned earlier.

I suggest we wrap this up because it's getting off-topic, and we should probably get back to the actual subject.
If you want to continue this, you have my DMs; I won't be responding to this here anymore.
Have a pleasant day, to you and everyone else reading! 👋

Oh, absolutely. Aside from being an intellectually bankrupt, destructive pest like yourself, oh great guru, Exotericon is practically a saint. He causes such a massive stir that he manages to pick fights with everyone under the sun—even the alternative crowd—and that’s despite the fact that people have pathetically tried to cozy up to him whenever they think they’ve spotted a potential new recruit for their ranks 😁 Unlike him, you are corrupt and calculating to your very core. By masquerading as a friend and a well-meaning advisor on this platform, you are practicing the most dangerous form of charlatanism there is—the kind that actually threatens people's well-being. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Gregory Ramirez2 Gregory Ramirez2 Active Member
72 messages
joined Aug 2012
#64 ·
Why all this bickering instead of just teaming up to find some moderators for the Alternative section? Even if you just started with a "police officer" type of moderator, someone just there to keep things civil and maintain order on the PDF...

If we actually did that, most of the posts here on PŻK regarding the Alternative would either be unnecessary or wouldn't even happen in the first place.

Nica?
Sandra Kern37 Sandra Kern37 Member
35 messages
joined Aug 2021
#65 ·
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Gregory Ramirez2 said:Why all this bickering instead of just teaming up to find some moderators for the Alternative section? Even if you just started with a "police officer" type of moderator, someone just there to keep things civil and maintain order on the PDF...

If we actually did that, most of the posts here on PŻK regarding the Alternative would either be unnecessary or wouldn't even happen in the first place.

Nica?

I can’t help but wonder if you’d actually step up to play the role of the "neighborhood cop," or if you’d just leave all that heavy lifting to your guru, Elizabeth Jackson.
So, which one of you two should we direct our death stares toward?

But you’re forgetting one crucial thing—an alternative needs actual moderation, not the kind of tyranny or dictatorship that you two would undoubtedly run with if you were left in charge of the thread. 😁
stormyrider28 stormyrider28 Member
17 messages
joined Dec 2018
#66 ·
Arthur Smith15 said:Oh, absolutely. Aside from being an intellectually bankrupt, destructive pest like yourself, oh great guru, Exotericon is practically a saint. He causes such a massive stir that he manages to pick fights with everyone under the sun—even the alternative crowd—and that’s despite the fact that people have pathetically tried to cozy up to him whenever they think they’ve spotted a potential new recruit for their ranks 😁 Unlike him, you are corrupt and calculating to your very core. By masquerading as a friend and a well-meaning advisor on this platform, you are practicing the most dangerous form of charlatanism there is—the kind that actually threatens people's well-being. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Yeah, honestly, given all the insults we’ve linked, he’s basically a saint... maybe he should get an award for dealing with this. But you, Elizabeth Jackson, you're doing something awful. You're so obsessed with him that you just keep attacking him for absolutely no reason at all. Here are two more examples
Arthur Smith15 said:Oh, absolutely. Aside from being an intellectually bankrupt, destructive pest like yourself, oh great guru, Exotericon is practically a saint. He causes such a massive stir that he manages to pick fights with everyone under the sun—even the alternative crowd—and that’s despite the fact that people have pathetically tried to cozy up to him whenever they think they’ve spotted a potential new recruit for their ranks 😁 Unlike him, you are corrupt and calculating to your very core. By masquerading as a friend and a well-meaning advisor on this platform, you are practicing the most dangerous form of charlatanism there is—the kind that actually threatens people's well-being. You should be ashamed of yourself.

And this one too
Arthur Smith15 said:Oh, absolutely. Aside from being an intellectually bankrupt, destructive pest like yourself, oh great guru, Exotericon is practically a saint. He causes such a massive stir that he manages to pick fights with everyone under the sun—even the alternative crowd—and that’s despite the fact that people have pathetically tried to cozy up to him whenever they think they’ve spotted a potential new recruit for their ranks 😁 Unlike him, you are corrupt and calculating to your very core. By masquerading as a friend and a well-meaning advisor on this platform, you are practicing the most dangerous form of charlatanism there is—the kind that actually threatens people's well-being. You should be ashamed of yourself.

You guys keep crying about charlatanism, but where are all those links you keep promising so we can actually see what you're talking about? L
Gregory Ramirez2 said:Why all this bickering instead of just teaming up to find some moderators for the Alternative section? Even if you just started with a "police officer" type of moderator, someone just there to keep things civil and maintain order on the PDF...

If we actually did that, most of the posts here on PŻK regarding the Alternative would either be unnecessary or wouldn't even happen in the first place.

Nica?

That's exactly the issue—there aren't any moderators. That's why all this horrible verbal abuse we've been linking keeps happening. And it's funny... the people doing the insulting act all smug and bold because they know they won't face any consequences, and honestly, they really don't...
Gregory Ramirez2 Gregory Ramirez2 Active Member
72 messages
joined Aug 2012
#67 ·
stormyrider28 said:Yeah, honestly, given all the insults we’ve linked, he’s basically a saint... maybe he should get an award for dealing with this. But you, Elizabeth Jackson, you're doing something awful. You're so obsessed with him that you just keep attacking him for absolutely no reason at all. Here are two more examples

And this one too

You guys keep crying about charlatanism, but where are all those links you keep promising so we can actually see what you're talking about? L

That's exactly the issue—there aren't any moderators. That's why all this horrible verbal abuse we've been linking keeps happening. And it's funny... the people doing the insulting act all smug and bold because they know they won't face any consequences, and honestly, they really don't...

Now the rats are gonna come crawling out of the woodwork, since you're basically inviting the cat into their backyard😁
Roger Cooper91 Roger Cooper91 Member
24 messages
joined Jun 2014
#68 ·
The bottom line is this: some self-proclaimed guru started this whole crusade by hitting people up in private messages before finally taking his grievances public against someone who simply didn't agree with him. He went out of his way to claim he actually created the very username this entire thread is dedicated to. And of course, at least one of his little followers was more than happy to jump on the bandwagon and pile on. Has there been any admission of error here? Any actual apology? I certainly haven't seen one from the guru or his disciples. So, yeah, I have no intention of letting people like that hold moderator positions.

As for Exotericon, it looks like my "clone" (a little nod to my skyscraper 😉 jumper) was right—the subforum has quieted down for the moment. The real question is, how long will that last?
Elizabeth Jackson Elizabeth Jackson Member
38 messages
joined Nov 2012
#69 ·
Roger Cooper91, I already told you I have no intention of turning this into a personal back-and-forth.
The way you keep targeting me here for... well, for what, exactly? (I honestly can't tell because you haven't even provided any links)...it’s the same thing; you could just send me all of this in a private message instead of cluttering up this thread with the kind of personal bickering you seem so keen on forcing. And I suppose that goes for everyone else, too.
I always have plenty of goodwill and time for people who remain civil.

Regarding the moderation situation, I'll only say three words: I have no idea who your comments about wanting to be a moderator are aimed at, since you haven't actually named anyone. Personally, after months of persistent, baseless accusations from my primary persecutor on this site claiming I have some desperate craving for a moderator role, I recently stated that it isn't even on my radar. In fact, I have never once suggested, nor have I ever shown any indication on this entire platform, that I have any interest in such a position (could you provide a link?). So, I really don't understand on what basis this one individual keeps pushing these fantasies, only to have a handful of people robotically echo them?
Ultimately, given my heavy personal commitments lately and the fact that I'm juggling two jobs, it's highly likely I'll be stepping away from the community due to a lack of time. Therefore, I am definitely not a candidate for moderator right now. 😁

What I will say, however, is that I—along with other members who witness the daily, blatant violation of the rules—repeatedly urge the administration to finally appoint a competent, unbiased, and fair moderator to the alternative section. We need someone who actually understands the subject matter they'd be overseeing, so we can finally put an end to this kind of crude disrespect and behavior that is frankly an embarrassment to our community.
Roger Cooper91 Roger Cooper91 Member
24 messages
joined Jun 2014
#70 ·
Of course I did; I explained everything. Either you haven't been following my posts in this thread, or you’re intentionally playing dumb—which, honestly, seems to be your go-to tactic in other discussions too. Suit yourself.

It’s pretty interesting, though, how you completely dodge any specific accountability regarding how you organized that mob against a user you claimed was using the Exotericon nickname. There’s never an admission like, "Oops, I overstepped," or anything similar. You just gloss right over it like nothing ever happened.

To be honest, I couldn't care less about what you two discuss in your private messages. But don't forget: you openly bragged about reporting users via PP just because they disagreed with you. A message even leaked showing you supporting the idea that we're all just idiots or mercenaries, not to mention how you tried to spin the theory that people are reading your private messages without being admins.

You were also incredibly malicious in your last post, trying to discredit my stance on Exotericon and whether I’ve stayed consistent regarding Rorion. As the links clearly showed, I have; you haven't. To you, that was just "persecuting users," but this isn't. Naturally, you won't address your double standards, and now you're suddenly demanding links to things that have already been posted—it's almost as if you have no memory of what you actually wrote.

You keep insisting on moving this to private communication, so fine. Reach out to me there. Stop replying to me here.
Brenda Gonzalez12 Brenda Gonzalez12 Member
45 messages
joined Mar 2017
#71 ·
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Daniel Davis40 said:Look, maybe you should just head back to school first! Honestly, you really need to look up what the word "guru" actually means, along with all those other terms in the American language! Look, if we’re actually going to have a productive conversation here, we really need to get on the same page first!.

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Daniel Davis40 said:You've already said this a million times! You’ve basically just proven that you're a total bookworm who doesn't actually have a clue how any of this works in the real world! I’ve always been one to question everything! Honestly, if you're looking for a guru, you're only going to find one in me—everyone else is just someone I happen to call a guru after a little bit of thought.

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Daniel Davis40 said:The absolute best part about this whole thing is that you actually took the time to dive into those books and then shared those specific quotes right here! But you just weren't being smart enough! Can you actually wrap your head around what you're reading and quoting? Because honestly, sometimes it feels like we're all just talking past one another! After everything that’s been said... Man, you’ve got all your bases covered right here! Honestly, when it comes to hemp oil, I just don't get it. I mean, seriously, how can anyone say that without feeling even a little bit embarrassed? It’s just pure nonsense!

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Daniel Davis40 said:So, I’m basically coming to the conclusion that this isn't considered scientifically proven—because if it actually were, we wouldn't even be having this debate! Those militant types! We’ve been repeating this like a broken record: you really shouldn't be turning a blind eye to the people who are feeding this stuff to our kids!


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Daniel Davis40 said:Honestly, I have to wonder—just how much of an absolute jerk does someone have to be to act like this? It’s honestly pathetic. You have to be such a bitter, miserable, and deeply frustrated person to carry that much negativity around. Seriously, what is wrong with you?

Quote : Exotericon
Daniel Davis40 said:Most people here—whether they’re skeptics or supporters (and personally, I fall into the first camp)—show up because they actually have an interest in raw food, but this troll has clearly shown his true colors. He doesn't have any real questions, he isn't looking for answers, and he certainly doesn't care about the truth; he's just here to mock and insult everyone. Honestly, you have to be incredibly miserable, lonely, wounded, and envious of others to make being a nuisance your entire reason for existing.

Daniel Davis40 said:Look, I'm not trying to dismiss science itself, just the shady practices within the scientific community, not to mention those brainless fanatics who don't even grasp the topic at hand.

Daniel Davis40 said:It is painfully obvious that you have zero self-awareness regarding how silly you sound. From where I'm sitting, it's clear your intelligence is at least half a standard deviation below anyone else on this board (and let's be real, you probably don't even know what that means, and if you try to Google it, there's a good chance you won't understand what you read).

Daniel Davis40 said:So why don't you take your little tantrums back to your mother, since she clearly didn't teach you anything useful.

Daniel Davis40 said:J
Even though I am significantly more educated than you, I come here to ask questions and get helpful advice on things I'm genuinely interested in. And I always manage to find it from people who aren't nearly as rude as you are, whereas I have yet to read a single intelligent thing you've ever posted. Your only goal seems to be getting in my way. Simply put, you're useless here.

It’s honestly pathetic that you feel the need to stoop to this level of conversation...

Daniel Davis40 said:J
In the future, I’m just going to ignore you because there's honestly zero point in talking to such self-absorbed idiots who don't even realize how clueless they actually are.

Look, Daniel Davis40, this is exactly why every single thread on PŽK eventually goes straight down the drain. You're looking for (just like everyone else here) some kind of justice for yourself , expecting politeness and decent manners, and then... well, look at your "contributions" over the last 24 hours. Honestly, the only real difference between you and someone like Exotericon is the specific vocabulary used. Though, if I'm being real, I'd probably rather toss him onto a bonfire altogether..
A little hypocritical, don't you think?
☕
Brenda Gonzalez12 Brenda Gonzalez12 Member
45 messages
joined Mar 2017
#72 ·
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Elizabeth Jackson said:Roger Cooper91, I already told you I have no intention of turning this into a personal back-and-forth.
The way you keep targeting me here for... well, for what, exactly? (I honestly can't tell because you haven't even provided any links)...it’s the same thing; you could just send me all of this in a private message instead of cluttering up this thread with the kind of personal bickering you seem so keen on forcing. And I suppose that goes for everyone else, too.
I always have plenty of goodwill and time for people who remain civil.

Regarding the moderation situation, I'll only say three words: I have no idea who your comments about wanting to be a moderator are aimed at, since you haven't actually named anyone. Personally, after months of persistent, baseless accusations from my primary persecutor on this site claiming I have some desperate craving for a moderator role, I recently stated that it isn't even on my radar. In fact, I have never once suggested, nor have I ever shown any indication on this entire platform, that I have any interest in such a position (could you provide a link?). So, I really don't understand on what basis this one individual keeps pushing these fantasies, only to have a handful of people robotically echo them?
Ultimately, given my heavy personal commitments lately and the fact that I'm juggling two jobs, it's highly likely I'll be stepping away from the community due to a lack of time. Therefore, I am definitely not a candidate for moderator right now. 😁

What I will say, however, is that I—along with other members who witness the daily, blatant violation of the rules—repeatedly urge the administration to finally appoint a competent, unbiased, and fair moderator to the alternative section. We need someone who actually understands the subject matter they'd be overseeing, so we can finally put an end to this kind of crude disrespect and behavior that is frankly an embarrassment to our community.

Could you drop the link for that too?

Because... LINK It looks like you might have hit "send" a little too early! I’m standing by and ready to go—just let me know what you need me to work on, and I'll get right to it. LINKThey aren't lying...

Elizabeth Jackson says:
I’m asking because I honestly just can't wrap my head around it—how is it possible that after ten whole months, we still haven't stumbled upon a single genius like this? Out of hundreds of thousands of registered users, or even just dozens of people in the mix, you'd think someone would pop up who is basically a masterpiece of nature! I’m really on the lookout for some active, on-topic members who have been around the block for years without ever needing a slap on the wrist. I'm talking about those folks who truly live and breathe the topics we cover in our PDFs—people who actually get it! Ideally, I'd love to find someone who could step up and moderate things with real quality and professionalism, and honestly, they might even be willing to jump in as volunteers.
There is just no way they don't exist.


Alright, let's get this show on the road!

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Elizabeth Jackson said:Roger Cooper91, I already told you I have no intention of turning this into a personal back-and-forth.
The way you keep targeting me here for... well, for what, exactly? (I honestly can't tell because you haven't even provided any links)...it’s the same thing; you could just send me all of this in a private message instead of cluttering up this thread with the kind of personal bickering you seem so keen on forcing. And I suppose that goes for everyone else, too.
I always have plenty of goodwill and time for people who remain civil.

Regarding the moderation situation, I'll only say three words: I have no idea who your comments about wanting to be a moderator are aimed at, since you haven't actually named anyone. Personally, after months of persistent, baseless accusations from my primary persecutor on this site claiming I have some desperate craving for a moderator role, I recently stated that it isn't even on my radar. In fact, I have never once suggested, nor have I ever shown any indication on this entire platform, that I have any interest in such a position (could you provide a link?). So, I really don't understand on what basis this one individual keeps pushing these fantasies, only to have a handful of people robotically echo them?
Ultimately, given my heavy personal commitments lately and the fact that I'm juggling two jobs, it's highly likely I'll be stepping away from the community due to a lack of time. Therefore, I am definitely not a candidate for moderator right now. 😁

What I will say, however, is that I—along with other members who witness the daily, blatant violation of the rules—repeatedly urge the administration to finally appoint a competent, unbiased, and fair moderator to the alternative section. We need someone who actually understands the subject matter they'd be overseeing, so we can finally put an end to this kind of crude disrespect and behavior that is frankly an embarrassment to our community.

Quote : Exotericon
Elizabeth Jackson said:Roger Cooper91, I already told you I have no intention of turning this into a personal back-and-forth.
The way you keep targeting me here for... well, for what, exactly? (I honestly can't tell because you haven't even provided any links)...it’s the same thing; you could just send me all of this in a private message instead of cluttering up this thread with the kind of personal bickering you seem so keen on forcing. And I suppose that goes for everyone else, too.
I always have plenty of goodwill and time for people who remain civil.

Regarding the moderation situation, I'll only say three words: I have no idea who your comments about wanting to be a moderator are aimed at, since you haven't actually named anyone. Personally, after months of persistent, baseless accusations from my primary persecutor on this site claiming I have some desperate craving for a moderator role, I recently stated that it isn't even on my radar. In fact, I have never once suggested, nor have I ever shown any indication on this entire platform, that I have any interest in such a position (could you provide a link?). So, I really don't understand on what basis this one individual keeps pushing these fantasies, only to have a handful of people robotically echo them?
Ultimately, given my heavy personal commitments lately and the fact that I'm juggling two jobs, it's highly likely I'll be stepping away from the community due to a lack of time. Therefore, I am definitely not a candidate for moderator right now. 😁

What I will say, however, is that I—along with other members who witness the daily, blatant violation of the rules—repeatedly urge the administration to finally appoint a competent, unbiased, and fair moderator to the alternative section. We need someone who actually understands the subject matter they'd be overseeing, so we can finally put an end to this kind of crude disrespect and behavior that is frankly an embarrassment to our community.

For someone claiming they’re "stepping away" from the community, acting like it’s some grand act of altruism to get everything organized before their "big departure"... give me a break. What a total load of nonsense. Honestly, can you get any more foolish, pathetic, or low than that? But of course, they’ll spin it to make it sound like they're doing it all for the "good of the community." Seriously? Give me a laugh! 🤦
Arthur Smith15 Arthur Smith15 Member
41 messages
joined Nov 2021
#73 ·
stormyrider28 said:Yeah, honestly, given all the insults we’ve linked, he’s basically a saint... maybe he should get an award for dealing with this. But you, Elizabeth Jackson, you're doing something awful. You're so obsessed with him that you just keep attacking him for absolutely no reason at all. Here are two more examples

And this one too

You guys keep crying about charlatanism, but where are all those links you keep promising so we can actually see what you're talking about? L

That's exactly the issue—there aren't any moderators. That's why all this horrible verbal abuse we've been linking keeps happening. And it's funny... the people doing the insulting act all smug and bold because they know they won't face any consequences, and honestly, they really don't...

You’re playing doctor ("chemotherapy is a killer"), while simultaneously feeding absolute nonsense to people fighting for their lives ("there are plenty of people who cured themselves just by drinking disgusting juices"); yes, you are a charlatan. You and the rest of this guru's cult are nothing more than the scum at the bottom of the barrel.
Elizabeth Jackson Elizabeth Jackson Member
38 messages
joined Nov 2012
#74 ·
Roger Cooper91 said:Of course I did; I explained everything. Either you haven't been following my posts in this thread, or you’re intentionally playing dumb—which, honestly, seems to be your go-to tactic in other discussions too. Suit yourself.

It’s pretty interesting, though, how you completely dodge any specific accountability regarding how you organized that mob against a user you claimed was using the Exotericon nickname. There’s never an admission like, "Oops, I overstepped," or anything similar. You just gloss right over it like nothing ever happened.

To be honest, I couldn't care less about what you two discuss in your private messages. But don't forget: you openly bragged about reporting users via PP just because they disagreed with you. A message even leaked showing you supporting the idea that we're all just idiots or mercenaries, not to mention how you tried to spin the theory that people are reading your private messages without being admins.

You were also incredibly malicious in your last post, trying to discredit my stance on Exotericon and whether I’ve stayed consistent regarding Rorion. As the links clearly showed, I have; you haven't. To you, that was just "persecuting users," but this isn't. Naturally, you won't address your double standards, and now you're suddenly demanding links to things that have already been posted—it's almost as if you have no memory of what you actually wrote.

You keep insisting on moving this to private communication, so fine. Reach out to me there. Stop replying to me here.

Fair enough.
I’m not trying to force anything, I just suggested it because I didn't want us to drift too far off-topic here on the thread.
I'll shoot you a message later today once I've cleared my desk...
stormyrider28 stormyrider28 Member
17 messages
joined Dec 2018
#75 ·
Quote : Exotericon
Elizabeth Jackson said:Roger Cooper91, I already told you I have no intention of turning this into a personal back-and-forth.
The way you keep targeting me here for... well, for what, exactly? (I honestly can't tell because you haven't even provided any links)...it’s the same thing; you could just send me all of this in a private message instead of cluttering up this thread with the kind of personal bickering you seem so keen on forcing. And I suppose that goes for everyone else, too.
I always have plenty of goodwill and time for people who remain civil.

Regarding the moderation situation, I'll only say three words: I have no idea who your comments about wanting to be a moderator are aimed at, since you haven't actually named anyone. Personally, after months of persistent, baseless accusations from my primary persecutor on this site claiming I have some desperate craving for a moderator role, I recently stated that it isn't even on my radar. In fact, I have never once suggested, nor have I ever shown any indication on this entire platform, that I have any interest in such a position (could you provide a link?). So, I really don't understand on what basis this one individual keeps pushing these fantasies, only to have a handful of people robotically echo them?
Ultimately, given my heavy personal commitments lately and the fact that I'm juggling two jobs, it's highly likely I'll be stepping away from the community due to a lack of time. Therefore, I am definitely not a candidate for moderator right now. 😁

What I will say, however, is that I—along with other members who witness the daily, blatant violation of the rules—repeatedly urge the administration to finally appoint a competent, unbiased, and fair moderator to the alternative section. We need someone who actually understands the subject matter they'd be overseeing, so we can finally put an end to this kind of crude disrespect and behavior that is frankly an embarrassment to our community.

I see that the link he posted has absolutely nothing to do with the topic again... just his usual way of twisting things and planting false ideas, which honestly only ends up proving your point. It’s pretty funny how whenever he isn't specifically calling people out, you don't even see Arthur Smith15 or Sandra Kern37 popping up anymore...
Sandra Kern37 Sandra Kern37 Member
35 messages
joined Aug 2021
#76 ·
stormyrider28 said:Quote : Exotericon

I see that the link he posted has absolutely nothing to do with the topic again... just his usual way of twisting things and planting false ideas, which honestly only ends up proving your point. It’s pretty funny how whenever he isn't specifically calling people out, you don't even see Arthur Smith15 or Sandra Kern37 popping up anymore...

What I find truly fascinating is how you continue this deliberate, conscious campaign to sabotage anyone on this Reddit who doesn't echo your exact sentiments, dragging them down to the level of some supposed "clone" just to stay in the good graces of your mentor and supreme overlord, Elizabeth Jackson. ☕

Or maybe you're just following orders from her; I'm sure this isn't the first time you've played the puppet, right? 😁

Honestly, you should be embarrassed.

Just a few days ago, I laid down a bet: if I actually am some kind of clone, feel free to ban me, but if I'm not, then you should be the one getting the boot for spreading nothing but rumors. Miraculously, you didn't respond to my challenge, which makes me wonder why that is. 🤣

I'd welcome the actual moderators to step in and verify whether I have any clones or not, assuming they can catch on as quickly as a drunk stumbling through a dark alley. Or perhaps that isn't the goal here, because once there is official proof that this is my one and only account, you won't have anything left to hide behind, will you? 🤔
stormyrider28 stormyrider28 Member
17 messages
joined Dec 2018
#77 ·
So this guy just keeps going and going, and honestly, nobody’s doing anything about it. It makes me wonder... what does he actually have to do before he finally gets what's coming to him?
Quote : Exotericon said:Why doesn't this lunatic just take his meds and stop projecting all that rot onto everyone else? ☕

Quote : Exotericon said:WOOOW, look at him go! Just totally lost it, acting like some rabid animal—classic symptoms of uncontrolled hatred, outbursts of rage, total confusion... definitely sounds like severe catatonic schizophrenia to me.

See what happens when you skip your medication? Seriously, man, just calm down and realize nobody here is out to get you. Take a deep breath, do it for your own sake, and let us help you out...

Sandra Kern37, even Monty suggested the exact same thing a while back... it's actually kind of weird... If someone read your posts without seeing your handle and asked them to guess who was writing, they'd say it was Monty in a heartbeat. It's the same writing style, the same vocabulary, the same tone, 100%... the same arrogance, the same mockery, harassing the same people in the same way without a shred of proof, bashing the same people and the same topics over and over, twisting what others actually said... for me, that's more than enough. But hey, if that's how you want to live your life, then I truly hope you enjoy it...
Brenda Gonzalez12 Brenda Gonzalez12 Member
45 messages
joined Mar 2017
#78 ·
stormyrider28, give me a break!
Out of your 240 posts, NOT A SINGLE ONE has actually stayed on topic. Honestly, you’re just a clone—a total carbon copy of Elizabeth Jackson—acting as his mouthpiece to talk to everyone he put on his "ignore" list. That’s the honest truth. This profile exists for one reason and one reason only.
But hey, A if you want to prove to me that you aren't, go ahead. I am stating clearly and loudly right now that you are, and I’ve already reported you directly for using a burner account.
And look, if by some miracle you actually prove me wrong and don't jump off a skyscraper, at least go wash your hair, because you are way too deep in someone else's business and it stinks... 🙄

There, are you happy now? Is this the writing style and vocabulary you wanted? Do you want me to start typing like that "Exo-something" guy? Seriously, just back off from these threads if you have nothing meaningful to add. Who even gave you the authority to tell others what to do? In terms of actual "valuable contributions," you haven't even hit 200 posts. If you have something to say, try saying it under your real profile. 🤦😵👎
Sandra Kern37 Sandra Kern37 Member
35 messages
joined Aug 2021
#79 ·
stormyrider28 said:So this guy just keeps going and going, and honestly, nobody’s doing anything about it. It makes me wonder... what does he actually have to do before he finally gets what's coming to him?

Sandra Kern37, even Monty suggested the exact same thing a while back... it's actually kind of weird... If someone read your posts without seeing your handle and asked them to guess who was writing, they'd say it was Monty in a heartbeat. It's the same writing style, the same vocabulary, the same tone, 100%... the same arrogance, the same mockery, harassing the same people in the same way without a shred of proof, bashing the same people and the same topics over and over, twisting what others actually said... for me, that's more than enough. But hey, if that's how you want to live your life, then I truly hope you enjoy it...

Who is talking about what? This guy is back on his clone obsession again. ☕

The day before yesterday you claimed I was Exotericon, yesterday you insisted I was Arthur Smith15, and today suddenly I'm Monty. Pick a lane already. 😁

What could you possibly know about literary styles, considering you were under the impression just yesterday that Josip Broz Marshall wrote the Iliad?

You all pretend to be these sophisticated little quasi-alternative types, but the mask is finally slipping and we're seeing who you really are.

Shame on you; you are nothing more than a moral vacuum, breathing down the necks of anyone who refuses to believe the nonsense peddled by your mentor and his ilk.
stormyrider28 stormyrider28 Member
17 messages
joined Dec 2018
#80 ·
Brenda Gonzalez12, I seriously respect where you're coming from with that conclusion. So, let me say this right now to the admins—go ahead and run whatever checks you need. If it turns out I'm some kind of clone, then yeah, just hand out the ban. But if I'm legit, then you should be the one getting penalized... And honestly, proving I'm not anyone's clone would be easy. I've got my ID and all my paperwork ready, and I'm more than happy to meet up with the admins in person to show them everything. Actually, Elizabeth Jackson should come along too, so they can see both of us at once. We can both log in and present our IDs right there in front of them if that's what it takes, I'm totally down.
Seriously though, it’s true... you attack Elizabeth Jackson on every single thread. It's getting exhausting because you aren't even talking about the actual topics anymore; every single one of your posts ends up being directly or indirectly about her. Look, criticizing someone is fine, but the second you accuse me of "defending" her, suddenly it's some huge crime, right? Why don't you just settle things with her directly instead of constantly harassing us all over this Reddit? This thread is supposed to be about Exotericon and his insults, not about Elizabeth Jackson, who you seem obsessed with dealing with here. Even this whole thing about me being a clone feels like a total distraction just to pivot the conversation back to her... but hey, no big deal, I can prove everything if I have to.

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