What's your take on the tragedy in San Francisco?

I don't think anyone is actually looking for an excuse. They're searching for a reason—they want to understand the WHY behind it all.

Reaching a breaking point doesn't have to mean turning to violence, especially against your own family. He made a conscious choice to take down the people closest to him—the very ones he was supposed to protect. That’s why he’s a piece of trash, not because he hit a wall. It wasn't even a breakdown; he just broke everyone else. This wasn't some heat-of-the-moment mistake; it was premeditated.
And to top it all off, he gets this massive send-off with a crowd at his funeral, while his victims are forced to share a grave with him. If he’d had servants or horses, he probably would have strangled them and buried them right alongside him too. It's basically the same thing.
If he couldn't handle life, he could have just ended it himself and been done with it.
Think about that English woman from that reality show who recently passed away from cancer; she fought to support her kids until her very last breath. That's what real character looks like. This idiot just proved he was a fool all along; people just didn't see it because they hadn't been put in a situation where he'd actually show his true colors.
You find out who someone really is when things get tough, and when the pressure was on, he showed exactly what he is. A low-quality human being, and worse than that.

The local news reported: "He was handsome, striking, and women were drawn to him; he kept himself very composed..." Hmm, sounds like a narcissist to me.
He clearly couldn't handle being seen as this desirable, attractive figure in the eyes of women... and honestly, everyone else too.

If he was recently spotted outside the Mayo Clinic in San Francisco clutching a stack of medical records, those results should have been at home by now. If he threw them away or destroyed them, they could have easily been obtained at the hospital. That might explain what kind of tests he underwent and if that was the reason for his distress—and why his wife was weeping at her desk at work just a week ago.

There you have it, Kanye West has laid it all out...

I couldn't agree more if I tried.

goldenpilot20 said:Word is he was dealing with prostate cancer.

But seriously, what on earth does having cancer have to do with murdering his own wife and family?!🤷

velvetmaker3 said:Reaching a breaking point doesn't have to mean turning to violence, especially against your own family. He made a conscious choice to take down the people closest to him—the very ones he was supposed to protect. That’s why he’s a piece of trash, not because he hit a wall. It wasn't even a breakdown; he just broke everyone else. This wasn't some heat-of-the-moment mistake; it was premeditated.
And to top it all off, he gets this massive send-off with a crowd at his funeral, while his victims are forced to share a grave with him. If he’d had servants or horses, he probably would have strangled them and buried them right alongside him too. It's basically the same thing.
If he couldn't handle life, he could have just ended it himself and been done with it.
Think about that English woman from that reality show who recently passed away from cancer; she fought to support her kids until her very last breath. That's what real character looks like. This idiot just proved he was a fool all along; people just didn't see it because they hadn't been put in a situation where he'd actually show his true colors.
You find out who someone really is when things get tough, and when the pressure was on, he showed exactly what he is. A low-quality human being, and worse than that.

This shows how different people can be. Even with all the destructiveness she dealt with since her early teens, that woman found enough strength, love, and responsibility to make at least one positive, constructive, and RESPONSIBLE move. She secured the financial future of her children, knowing she was leaving them too soon due to her past mistakes. I do not approve of reality TV nonsense, but I see one positive note in her actions for the sake of those two kids.

As for him, because he clearly had his own issues, he decided that if his life was not going according to plan, his wife and children did not deserve to live either. Taking fate into your own hands like that is terrible, horrific, and selfish. However, one must always consider that severe mental illness can cause someone to lose control completely. A "blackout" or whatever happens... 🤷 it is a catastrophe.

goldenpilot20 said:Word is he was dealing with prostate cancer.

...besides, prostate cancer is treated quite successfully nowadays, so that can't be the cause.

p.s.: I believe it says right above that the autopsy confirmed he DID NOT have prostate cancer.

Jerry Martinez5 said:If you’re a believer, you should know that God is the one who judges and forgives, not some random person on the internet.

Personally, I find it distasteful when people throw around terms like "trash" to describe anyone. This individual committed a terrible crime. He took his own life, so the state didn't even get a chance to put him on trial. I'm no expert on church doctrine, but I know that for a long time, they wouldn't allow someone who committed suicide to be buried in a cemetery or receive religious rites. I suppose I don't know exactly when those rules changed.

The church used to treat suicide much more harshly than murder.

fairy, I truly went too far with such a vile term.

This wonderful, selfless, beautiful, and utterly noble husband and father slaughtered his entire family (is that the right way to put it?).
Let us all weep for him; perhaps his wife and children simply pushed him to the edge, forcing him to kill them. Calling him "scum" is actually being generous, much like those who still mourn him (and yes, they exist).
Even today, the Church views suicide with the same severity as it always has. Perhaps he was just a "better" or "wealthier" believer, and thus felt entitled to all this sympathy.

Sam Gonzalez67 said:is that... while the pathologist didn't actually find any cancer, they did flag a suspicion regarding HIV...
now it looks like the guy is just a total jerk, though I honestly suspect he might be gay, which would explain a lot of that deep-seated frustration he’s been carrying around for years... especially once you look into where he actually came from.

I am signing onto this completely! A Bastard and gay—you can slice it a few different ways, can't you? And honestly, does it not just rub me the wrong way how he supposedly adored those kids, like they were his whole world? He acts like such a degenerate, yet he has two children?! Hmm, I really can't get behind that at all. It feels like he just loved himself most of all, and then maybe even his kids, simply because they were products of "wonderful old him," right?☕

Rebecca Chavez85 said:I find myself scrolling through the comments on the local news sites out of California, reading what those Lawrence types have to say. Is it just me, or does everyone seem to be scrambling to find some pathetic excuse for a murderer? They bring up mental illness, PTSD, financial struggles—as if any of that makes it okay.
To put it bluntly, there is absolutely no justification for such human filth. Only a true monster could lay hands on children. May they burn in hell forever...

Of course they’re making excuses for him! If most people weren't like this, tragedies like this wouldn't even happen in the first place, right? Seriously, what kind of society makes it perfectly normal for someone to just have a rifle and an assault weapon sitting around?! And then everyone starts praising them or acting shocked, saying things like, "Oh, but he was such a wonderful man, such a great guy!" Don't I dare tell you that at least ten different people must have known about his weapons? Why wasn't it reported? Honestly, I am just so sick of all these veteran groups and those endless lists of patriotic little club names—all that nonsense! Let's stop telling ourselves these fairy tales meant for toddlers. You can't just blame everything on some war that happened decades ago. Enough with the excuses! Can we please actually get to work and fix something?!☕

velvetmaker3 said:Reaching a breaking point doesn't have to mean turning to violence, especially against your own family. He made a conscious choice to take down the people closest to him—the very ones he was supposed to protect. That’s why he’s a piece of trash, not because he hit a wall. It wasn't even a breakdown; he just broke everyone else. This wasn't some heat-of-the-moment mistake; it was premeditated.
And to top it all off, he gets this massive send-off with a crowd at his funeral, while his victims are forced to share a grave with him. If he’d had servants or horses, he probably would have strangled them and buried them right alongside him too. It's basically the same thing.
If he couldn't handle life, he could have just ended it himself and been done with it.
Think about that English woman from that reality show who recently passed away from cancer; she fought to support her kids until her very last breath. That's what real character looks like. This idiot just proved he was a fool all along; people just didn't see it because they hadn't been put in a situation where he'd actually show his true colors.
You find out who someone really is when things get tough, and when the pressure was on, he showed exactly what he is. A low-quality human being, and worse than that.

You hit the nail on the head, my friend, precisely! She is a legend and deserves nothing less than our utmost respect. But she has one little issue: she's a woman, so according to certain people, she isn't "interesting" enough. And besides, we're all just being incredibly full of ourselves, aren't we? Like the world is supposed to revolve entirely around us? And oh, heaven forbid, what if you were a veteran of the Gulf War! Good grief!

There were plenty of situations there, believe me, it's just a matter of knowing how to read the signs and recognize them for what they are. That’s really the core issue, isn't it? Who is actually going to be able to spot them?🤷

Rebecca Chavez85 said:There you have it, Kanye West has laid it all out...

I couldn't agree more if I tried.

I'm right there with you! 👍Cheers to Rex!

We can say whatever we want at this point—we can label him a monster, and honestly, we’d probably be right. But the guy is dead, and frankly, it doesn't matter what specific name we give to the tragedy that unfolded. It’s a closed chapter: he’s gone, and everyone else is gone too. There isn't a single insult we could hurl in our righteous fury that would actually bring any of them back.

These kinds of things happen; they happened in the past, and they'll keep happening. There will always be SOMETHING. First it’s war, then it’s a natural disaster, then it’s violence and crime.
Sure, we need to focus on prevention—maybe that way we can save at least a few people. That’s why we’re asking "why" right now, because if we can pin down a reason, maybe we can actually do something to make it less frequent in the future.

As for being outraged after the fact? It’s completely useless.

goldenpilot20 said:

Based on the article above, it looks like he was perfectly healthy. That actually makes this tragedy even worse; it implies that seemingly normal people are capable of committing horrific acts. 😲

rapidgull3 said:Based on the article above, it looks like he was perfectly healthy. That actually makes this tragedy even worse; it implies that seemingly normal people are capable of committing horrific acts. 😲

What does "normal" even mean these days?