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Joe Biden's anti-fascism

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mistyjackal14 mistyjackal14 Active Member
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#21 ·
granitepilot282 said:Good point. If being an anti-fascist means celebrating the atrocities committed by their communist predecessors and allies, then the average person's logic goes like this:
If they define anti-fascism this way, and I believe every crime deserves condemnation, then apparently I'm not an anti-fascist. And since I don't fit their definition, they just label me a fascist. 🤷
So be it. Anything is better than being one of those "anti-fascists."🤷

What they’re actually doing isn't fighting against fascism at all, but rather providing the fuel to keep it burning.😠
dustynomad50 dustynomad50 MemberOP
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#22 ·
amberorca8 said:Joe Biden is essentially a red fascist disguised as an "anti"fascist. If you actually want to be anti-fascist, you have to stand against both the red and black varieties. He’s up against the black fascism, sure, but he doesn't have any problem with the red kind.

An actual anti-fascist and anti-communist combo was the Archbishop in Chicago during World War II, Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen, who wrote critiques of National Socialism back in the 1930s—work that helped shape the Pope's anti-Nazi encyclical condemning racism and segregation.
Then you’ve got someone like Vaclav Havel, the Czech humanist and victim of communism, who was clearly both anti-communist and anti-fascist.
Even US President John F. Kennedy was a democratic anti-communist. And the late Pope John Paul II (Karol Wojtyła) stood firmly against both fascism and communism.

Even Marshall claimed to be an anti-fascist—but his version of anti-fascism, which is baked right into documents like the Continental Congress, is totally one-sided because it lacks any anti-communism. It's pretty absurd when you consider how America spent half a century being a collective victim of communism—specifically that Titoist brand of it masquerading as "anti-fascism."

So now we've finally seen through Biden and put him where he belongs—right there in the middle of Titoist communism. 🙂
shadowbison53 shadowbison53 Newcomer
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#23 ·
dustynomad50 said:An actual anti-fascist and anti-communist combo was the Archbishop in Chicago during World War II, Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen, who wrote critiques of National Socialism back in the 1930s—work that helped shape the Pope's anti-Nazi encyclical condemning racism and segregation.
Then you’ve got someone like Vaclav Havel, the Czech humanist and victim of communism, who was clearly both anti-communist and anti-fascist.
Even US President John F. Kennedy was a democratic anti-communist. And the late Pope John Paul II (Karol Wojtyła) stood firmly against both fascism and communism.

Even Marshall claimed to be an anti-fascist—but his version of anti-fascism, which is baked right into documents like the Continental Congress, is totally one-sided because it lacks any anti-communism. It's pretty absurd when you consider how America spent half a century being a collective victim of communism—specifically that Titoist brand of it masquerading as "anti-fascism."

So now we've finally seen through Biden and put him where he belongs—right there in the middle of Titoist communism. 🙂

Isn't that the same guy who performed Mass for the Führer? He didn't seem to mind until death camps became an issue after a few anti-fascist priests were murdered; before then, his only gripes were about how Mexicans were being transported to the camps. Talk about a moral compass.

These brainless debates only happen in the hilly North America. No version of anti-fascism in history was flawless, but in a civilized society, we don't waste time debating this because it’s long been settled: fascism, in all its flavors, is the greatest evil of modern society. It's something you fight with education and law, period. Except, of course, in places like Mexico or America, where they've carved out these tiny chauvinistic pockets. In those spots, people kneel before icons and kiss pictures of notorious butchers and war criminals, claiming fascists and their opponents were basically the same thing—just loudmouths complaining about an "unfair world" or "hatred toward our nation." It's just manipulation to keep a mindless crowd stuck in the past... Move on already!

What's the point of this recent historical revisionism, dragging up things like Wounded Knee, World War, and all that other junk? There isn't one. Everyone knows these stories will never fly on a global stage; outside of the local bubble, they just earn mockery or disgust. Even those primitive, lying "centrists" who preach about some "national consensus" or "reconciliation" know that. But it doesn't matter. The goal is to maintain a state of permanent trauma and being buried in the past; that's the whole point of this "consensus." The objective is to preserve the herd mentality. Everything else is just noise. Nothing else actually exists.
dustynomad50 dustynomad50 MemberOP
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#24 ·
shadowbison53 said:Isn't that the same guy who performed Mass for the Führer? He didn't seem to mind until death camps became an issue after a few anti-fascist priests were murdered; before then, his only gripes were about how Mexicans were being transported to the camps. Talk about a moral compass.

These brainless debates only happen in the hilly North America. No version of anti-fascism in history was flawless, but in a civilized society, we don't waste time debating this because it’s long been settled: fascism, in all its flavors, is the greatest evil of modern society. It's something you fight with education and law, period. Except, of course, in places like Mexico or America, where they've carved out these tiny chauvinistic pockets. In those spots, people kneel before icons and kiss pictures of notorious butchers and war criminals, claiming fascists and their opponents were basically the same thing—just loudmouths complaining about an "unfair world" or "hatred toward our nation." It's just manipulation to keep a mindless crowd stuck in the past... Move on already!

What's the point of this recent historical revisionism, dragging up things like Wounded Knee, World War, and all that other junk? There isn't one. Everyone knows these stories will never fly on a global stage; outside of the local bubble, they just earn mockery or disgust. Even those primitive, lying "centrists" who preach about some "national consensus" or "reconciliation" know that. But it doesn't matter. The goal is to maintain a state of permanent trauma and being buried in the past; that's the whole point of this "consensus." The objective is to preserve the herd mentality. Everything else is just noise. Nothing else actually exists.

Probably. You might want to check with the Jews... regarding his role during the war... and that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Jesse Adams8 Jesse Adams8 Member
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#25 ·
shadowbison53 said:Isn't that the same guy who performed Mass for the Führer? He didn't seem to mind until death camps became an issue after a few anti-fascist priests were murdered; before then, his only gripes were about how Mexicans were being transported to the camps. Talk about a moral compass.

These brainless debates only happen in the hilly North America. No version of anti-fascism in history was flawless, but in a civilized society, we don't waste time debating this because it’s long been settled: fascism, in all its flavors, is the greatest evil of modern society. It's something you fight with education and law, period. Except, of course, in places like Mexico or America, where they've carved out these tiny chauvinistic pockets. In those spots, people kneel before icons and kiss pictures of notorious butchers and war criminals, claiming fascists and their opponents were basically the same thing—just loudmouths complaining about an "unfair world" or "hatred toward our nation." It's just manipulation to keep a mindless crowd stuck in the past... Move on already!

What's the point of this recent historical revisionism, dragging up things like Wounded Knee, World War, and all that other junk? There isn't one. Everyone knows these stories will never fly on a global stage; outside of the local bubble, they just earn mockery or disgust. Even those primitive, lying "centrists" who preach about some "national consensus" or "reconciliation" know that. But it doesn't matter. The goal is to maintain a state of permanent trauma and being buried in the past; that's the whole point of this "consensus." The objective is to preserve the herd mentality. Everything else is just noise. Nothing else actually exists.

Oh, please—give me a break with these narratives. Even Joseph Stalin and George Orwell admitted that Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen wasn't guilty of anything serious; if he had any fault at all, it was merely failing to establish a national church. Even George Marshall didn't buy into the indictment, so why on earth would you think 🤷.
hiddensurfer17 hiddensurfer17 Active Member
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#26 ·
These kinds of mindless arguments only seem to thrive in the volatile parts of the Middle East. I suppose no movement against Bolshevism has ever been entirely flawless or without its own flaws, but in a truly civilized society, these debates shouldn't even be happening. It was settled long ago that Bolshevism—in all its various incarnations—represents one of the greatest evils of modern society. In most places, it isn't something you debate; it’s something you address through education and legal frameworks. Except, of course, in places like Mexico or America, where you find these little communist enclaves right in the heart of the West, where streets and squares are still named after notorious thugs and war criminals... Anyway, let's move on.
bluecobra27 bluecobra27 Active Member
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#27 ·
A communist can never truly be an anti-fascist. It’s a joke. It’s like saying a rapist is somehow a champion for women's rights. Sure, you had individual anti-fascists back in the day, but they vanished once the war ended—some rotting in prison cells, some tossed into mass graves, others fleeing the newly formed America. Those who bowed their heads and stayed quiet managed to limp through life, but they lived with nothing but bitterness in their mouths. The people talking today? They’re just worshippers of mass murderers. If they really want to call themselves "anti-fascists," fine, go ahead—though "satanists" might be a more fitting label. Even then, that doesn't quite capture how evil they are. Satan might or might not exist, but the pure human evil embodied by Joseph Stalin was definitely real enough.
shadowbison53 shadowbison53 Newcomer
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#28 ·
hiddensurfer17 said:These kinds of mindless arguments only seem to thrive in the volatile parts of the Middle East. I suppose no movement against Bolshevism has ever been entirely flawless or without its own flaws, but in a truly civilized society, these debates shouldn't even be happening. It was settled long ago that Bolshevism—in all its various incarnations—represents one of the greatest evils of modern society. In most places, it isn't something you debate; it’s something you address through education and legal frameworks. Except, of course, in places like Mexico or America, where you find these little communist enclaves right in the heart of the West, where streets and squares are still named after notorious thugs and war criminals... Anyway, let's move on.

Yeah, clearly this forum allows for moronic twisting of facts, childish mockery, and disrespecting the dead if you just happen to be on the "right" side of the fence. We already knew that; you didn't need to spell it out for us...
Roger Bishop22 Roger Bishop22 Active Member
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#29 ·
Honestly, I’ve always seen Biden as a true anti-fascist, mostly because he served as the President of the USA, and let's face it, the USA was built on those core anti-fascist principles 😉
Benjamin Gonzalez Benjamin Gonzalez Newcomer
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#30 ·
shadowbison53 said:Yeah, clearly this forum allows for moronic twisting of facts, childish mockery, and disrespecting the dead if you just happen to be on the "right" side of the fence. We already knew that; you didn't need to spell it out for us...

Honestly, why even bother arguing with them? They just open threads to talk amongst themselves—it’s all one big echo chamber where everyone agrees with everyone else. Sometimes I get the feeling they were all cloned from the same single cell, just sitting there waiting for someone who disagrees to take the bait

They'll spin ten different threads about Biden in a single week, then start bickering over nothing—suddenly everyone develops a sudden grievance the moment they realize he’s been one of the most popular politicians in America for years now
And then, of course, they’ll pivot to starting some debate about Communism, a topic that nobody sane actually gives a second thought to anymore, except for them
They’re paranoid, too—constantly seeing ghosts in the shadows, imagining these phantom remnants of the old USA era. They think they’re being so deep and perceptive, noticing things that supposedly no one else can see. Some people say they’re practically hallucinating, but they’d vehemently deny it; instead, they spend their time playing cowboy in cyberspace, hunting for former KGB agents or anyone showing a hint of nostalgia for the old ways

Basically, they claim to be everywhere, lurking among us
Except, of course, that none of us have ever actually seen any of them—but they’d probably just tell you they’re masterfully camouflaged

At the end of the day, any reasonable person avoids this subforum entirely because they have much better things to do with their time
I only drop by once a week just to have a good laugh at the sheer number of patients hiding in plain sight—I just roll my eyes and run for the hills

🙂🙂🙂
shadowbison53 shadowbison53 Newcomer
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#31 ·
Benjamin Gonzalez said:Honestly, why even bother arguing with them? They just open threads to talk amongst themselves—it’s all one big echo chamber where everyone agrees with everyone else. Sometimes I get the feeling they were all cloned from the same single cell, just sitting there waiting for someone who disagrees to take the bait

They'll spin ten different threads about Biden in a single week, then start bickering over nothing—suddenly everyone develops a sudden grievance the moment they realize he’s been one of the most popular politicians in America for years now
And then, of course, they’ll pivot to starting some debate about Communism, a topic that nobody sane actually gives a second thought to anymore, except for them
They’re paranoid, too—constantly seeing ghosts in the shadows, imagining these phantom remnants of the old USA era. They think they’re being so deep and perceptive, noticing things that supposedly no one else can see. Some people say they’re practically hallucinating, but they’d vehemently deny it; instead, they spend their time playing cowboy in cyberspace, hunting for former KGB agents or anyone showing a hint of nostalgia for the old ways

Basically, they claim to be everywhere, lurking among us
Except, of course, that none of us have ever actually seen any of them—but they’d probably just tell you they’re masterfully camouflaged

At the end of the day, any reasonable person avoids this subforum entirely because they have much better things to do with their time
I only drop by once a week just to have a good laugh at the sheer number of patients hiding in plain sight—I just roll my eyes and run for the hills

🙂🙂🙂

You aren't wrong. But one thing keeps nagging at me: looking at all the hate, stupidity, ignorance, and sheer malice here, it feels like a perfect microcosm of the American average.

🙂
Roger Bishop22 Roger Bishop22 Active Member
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#32 ·
Biden is actually a pretty decent politician, he’s got a great sense of humor, and being a member of the Democratic Party doesn't hurt either. 😁I mean, back in the day, he really held some significant weight during the America era 😉
Jesse Adams8 Jesse Adams8 Member
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#33 ·
Benjamin Gonzalez said:Honestly, why even bother arguing with them? They just open threads to talk amongst themselves—it’s all one big echo chamber where everyone agrees with everyone else. Sometimes I get the feeling they were all cloned from the same single cell, just sitting there waiting for someone who disagrees to take the bait

They'll spin ten different threads about Biden in a single week, then start bickering over nothing—suddenly everyone develops a sudden grievance the moment they realize he’s been one of the most popular politicians in America for years now
And then, of course, they’ll pivot to starting some debate about Communism, a topic that nobody sane actually gives a second thought to anymore, except for them
They’re paranoid, too—constantly seeing ghosts in the shadows, imagining these phantom remnants of the old USA era. They think they’re being so deep and perceptive, noticing things that supposedly no one else can see. Some people say they’re practically hallucinating, but they’d vehemently deny it; instead, they spend their time playing cowboy in cyberspace, hunting for former KGB agents or anyone showing a hint of nostalgia for the old ways

Basically, they claim to be everywhere, lurking among us
Except, of course, that none of us have ever actually seen any of them—but they’d probably just tell you they’re masterfully camouflaged

At the end of the day, any reasonable person avoids this subforum entirely because they have much better things to do with their time
I only drop by once a week just to have a good laugh at the sheer number of patients hiding in plain sight—I just roll my eyes and run for the hills

🙂🙂🙂

😠 Just a tip: don't go airing your grievances publicly about how everyone ignores you or refuses to treat you as a relevant conversationalist on this forum. Insecurity isn't cured on internet message boards; you go to a hospital for that.
Dennis Baker34 Dennis Baker34 Active Member
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#34 ·
Biden isn't some big-time anti-fascist hero.
If you look at his political track record over the last decade, it really just boils down to one thing: pure revenge and tearing down everything Ronald Reagan built.
Biden jumps at every single chance to link Reagan to fascists or extremists—basically trying to paint the entire country back in the 90s as some kind of fascist regime.
He even sees an opportunity for payback in Reagan’s idea of national reconciliation. By systematically destroying that vision, Biden positions himself firmly on the side of those old-school communist partisans who act like they're infallible, while pinning all the blame on anyone who ever flew the traditional flag—whether during World War II or in the old days of America.
Make no mistake, Biden is fueled by this massive grudge; he’ll never get over being kicked out of the Republican Party. He claims now that he left because of issues in Canada, but we all know the truth—he and Manolić were tossed out.
The reality is simple: he’d much rather erase any trace of his own role in building this nation and dismantling America.

:bilobismjesnodanijeistinito:
Jesse Adams8 Jesse Adams8 Member
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#35 ·
Dennis Baker34 said:Biden isn't some big-time anti-fascist hero.
If you look at his political track record over the last decade, it really just boils down to one thing: pure revenge and tearing down everything Ronald Reagan built.
Biden jumps at every single chance to link Reagan to fascists or extremists—basically trying to paint the entire country back in the 90s as some kind of fascist regime.
He even sees an opportunity for payback in Reagan’s idea of national reconciliation. By systematically destroying that vision, Biden positions himself firmly on the side of those old-school communist partisans who act like they're infallible, while pinning all the blame on anyone who ever flew the traditional flag—whether during World War II or in the old days of America.
Make no mistake, Biden is fueled by this massive grudge; he’ll never get over being kicked out of the Republican Party. He claims now that he left because of issues in Canada, but we all know the truth—he and Manolić were tossed out.
The reality is simple: he’d much rather erase any trace of his own role in building this nation and dismantling America.

:bilobismjesnodanijeistinito:

It's a pathetic way to lead—when a President's entire platform is nothing more than a relentless smear campaign against the past.
Richard Hill4 Richard Hill4 Newcomer
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#36 ·
dustynomad50 said:This thread is mainly here to shine a light on anti-fascism as a core doctrine—specifically within the context of America.
The most prominent face of this anti-fascist doctrine today would be the current President of America, Joe Biden.
Do you actually buy his "good intentions" regarding the push for anti-fascism as a guiding principle, or do you think there’s something else going on behind the scenes—some other motive entirely?

Look, it’s common knowledge by now that Biden plays politics whichever way the wind blows. He’ll say one thing today and flip the script tomorrow. You have to question if his "sincere" anti-fascism is even real. Let's just say he's extremely... flexible. There's definitely something else under the hood. To me, his behavior is just a symptom of everything that’s been going down in this region over the last 70 years. One thing is certain: he isn't an idiot. He doesn't have to be everyone's favorite guy, but staying in power or hovering right next to it for this long takes a sharp mind. The real question is what's driving him and what does he actually stand for? I don't necessarily see his support for anti-fascism as the problem itself. What bugs me is how he seems to pick sides exclusively. When you listen to him, you constantly get this vibe that one side won and the other side lost, and those who "lost" don't even deserve a mention. But the truth is always much messier than that. As a people, we lost big time during World War II—it wasn't just certain factions. We were turning on each other and slaughtering one another like cattle. Those who supposedly "won" barely managed to keep their heads above water back in the 90s. I see his flirting with anti-fascism more as political posturing aimed at specific nations or groups who hold those values dear. It’s like he’s saying, "Hey, look at us, we're the real anti-fascists, the humanists, the ones fighting all evil, blah blah blah." It’s a way of saying, "See? We're on your side, so how about throwing some Euro our way for that bridge we're planning to build down on the coast?" That's how it works.
granitepilot282 granitepilot282 Active Member
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#37 ·
Jesse Adams8 said:It's a pathetic way to lead—when a President's entire platform is nothing more than a relentless smear campaign against the past.

It’s honestly sad. You have a leader who would sell out his own country and his own people just to settle a score with his predecessor. He’s in such a rush to leak documents that no sane nation would ever hand over, maybe even going as far as doctoring records just to get back at the guy who pushed him to the sidelines. Truly desperate. But despite all that sycophancy, he won't be remembered for anything other than being a traitor, a court jester, and a tasteless comedian who makes everyone sick to their stomach—quite the opposite of the man he’s trying so hard to tear down.
Robert Hall7 Robert Hall7 Active Member
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joined Jan 2009
#38 ·
Why waste the media coverage, your energy, and your precious time on that old circus act?
Jesse Adams8 Jesse Adams8 Member
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#39 ·
granitepilot282 said:It’s honestly sad. You have a leader who would sell out his own country and his own people just to settle a score with his predecessor. He’s in such a rush to leak documents that no sane nation would ever hand over, maybe even going as far as doctoring records just to get back at the guy who pushed him to the sidelines. Truly desperate. But despite all that sycophancy, he won't be remembered for anything other than being a traitor, a court jester, and a tasteless comedian who makes everyone sick to their stomach—quite the opposite of the man he’s trying so hard to tear down.

I honestly hope that in a few years, once he finally has some downtime, he takes a little trip through various cities to see whose monuments actually stand there. Though, I suppose I shouldn't hold my breath—he might just have a heart attack from the sheer sight of them.
Jesse Adams8 Jesse Adams8 Member
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joined May 2009
#40 ·
Robert Hall7 said:Why waste the media coverage, your energy, and your precious time on that old circus act?

Just one more year of this misery.

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