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The current state of the American psyche

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Participants Jesse Sullivan2Rebecca StewartAnthony Cook3loneowl39Keith Jones76Christian Richardson9electrictiger70Rebecca Scott3Ethan Baker16Samuel Cruz61Chloe Walker83fadedbear92Thomas Howard93Emily Robinson4Patrick Johnson8mistyranger42Kyle Morris7goldenscout14Eric Vaughn
Kyle Morris7 Kyle Morris7 Active Member
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#21 ·
There isn't really a simple answer to be found here... It is all a complex tapestry woven from human nature, the weight of history, and whatever current circumstances happen to be pulling at us at the moment. And besides, who exactly gave you the impression that other nations possess some inherent superiority in this regard? Where does that assumption even come from? To be quite honest, drawing a comparison to the Frenchman feels entirely misplaced... it is an example that fails to provide any actual clarity or meaningful explanation. If we look at the evidence, for instance:
a) During the First World War, the Frenchman fought with a sort of fanatical devotion until the very end, regardless of the staggering losses sustained... What would one conclude from that? Most likely, that the Frenchman is incredibly brave.
b) Then, during the Second World War, the Frenchman essentially surrendered almost without putting up a fight. The conclusion there? That they were nothing more than cowards and egoists, lacking even a shred of solidarity?
The span of years separating those two conflicts? Twenty-one years!! I find myself wondering... is it truly possible for a people to transform from heroes into cowards in a mere twenty-one years...
Jesse Sullivan2 Jesse Sullivan2 Active MemberOP
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#22 ·
Kyle Morris7 said:There isn't really a simple answer to be found here... It is all a complex tapestry woven from human nature, the weight of history, and whatever current circumstances happen to be pulling at us at the moment. And besides, who exactly gave you the impression that other nations possess some inherent superiority in this regard? Where does that assumption even come from? To be quite honest, drawing a comparison to the Frenchman feels entirely misplaced... it is an example that fails to provide any actual clarity or meaningful explanation. If we look at the evidence, for instance:
a) During the First World War, the Frenchman fought with a sort of fanatical devotion until the very end, regardless of the staggering losses sustained... What would one conclude from that? Most likely, that the Frenchman is incredibly brave.
b) Then, during the Second World War, the Frenchman essentially surrendered almost without putting up a fight. The conclusion there? That they were nothing more than cowards and egoists, lacking even a shred of solidarity?
The span of years separating those two conflicts? Twenty-one years!! I find myself wondering... is it truly possible for a people to transform from heroes into cowards in a mere twenty-one years...

The French were just brought up as a way to show someone on the complete opposite end of the spectrum from us—like, totally different vibes when it comes to politics and everyday life.

But okay, look at Canada. How many times in the last decade have their leaders actually stepped down before their term was up because things went south? Maybe twice?
At least their leaders have enough backbone to admit when they've messed up.
Compare that to the crisis we've been dealing with here in the States... we've been stuck in this loop for 19 years already.
Jesse Sullivan2 Jesse Sullivan2 Active MemberOP
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#23 ·
I mean, honestly, those verdicts against the generals probably aren't going to do much for our collective mental state 🤣
goldenscout14 goldenscout14 Active Member
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#24 ·
It won't happen; if anything, now is the perfect moment to start digging into this wave of mass hysteria.
Eric Vaughn Eric Vaughn Newcomer
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#25 ·
The big boss said:says:
People always say "less is more," but honestly, I’m constantly surprised by the attitude here in the States whenever public sector unions start pushing back.
Most people just shrug and go, "What do they even want?" or "Must be nice, they've got it made." Instead of actually standing up for these unions and backing them during negotiations with the government, the public pushes them to the sidelines. They end up being viewed as nothing more than greedy, lazy people who are already living the good life.
Maybe it’s just me, but I find that hard to wrap my head around.
If I had to choose between supporting a union or saving some pennies on government buildings, I’d honestly rather see the administration fall before I’d vote against what workers are fighting for.
Where does that mindset even come from?!
Take the French, for example—they take to the streets and fight tooth and nail if they have to. Meanwhile, we sit back and call people fools just because they're standing up for worker rights.
This isn't about which political party you like or anything like that. It’s about the psychological makeup of a nation that just takes the hits without a word.
Were we just raised this way? Is it somehow baked into our DNA?!

I think it’s pretty much the same across the entire Middle East, too.

In Mexico, it’s exactly the same.

Part of the reason is that unions in former communist countries aren't nearly as powerful as they are in places without that history. Plus, it’s well known that during and after the transition period, the role of unions was basically stripped away, leaving them with almost zero influence today.

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