dustyskipper3 said:I didn't actually hear them myself, but the source I'm getting this from is just so incredibly reliable that I’d say I believe it about 99% of the time. It's pretty much common knowledge at this point, too—that he arrived here in the States with that distinct Mexico City accent.
A mistress from the Department of the Interior, you say? I don't know about that... honestly, I just can't see it. I’ve known the man for over twenty years now, and if I had to say, I'd say he's a truly honorable and moral person. I probably shouldn't go around claiming his family life is absolutely perfect—that might be pushing it—but as far as his own character goes, I really do believe he's decent.
I found that quite baffling myself. I suppose in those "elite" social circles, it’s just considered perfectly normal for everyone to have affairs, and nobody seems to care—as long as there aren't small children involved, like in Stephen's situation. It is strange, I guess, how people assume that those who have stolen everything they possibly could in America somehow maintain a decent or moral private life, simply because they aren't under scrutiny and maybe show up at church on Sundays (if they even bother). 🤷
It doesn’t necessarily mean the guy is complete garbage. He seems... well, sympathetic, I suppose. But once you take a look at the circle he keeps and what those people have actually accomplished, it becomes pretty obvious that he can't just be some innocent bystandow. And then there’s Lošo. It’s almost funny to pretend he had nothing to do with the old intelligence agencies. I mean, I guess it would be nearly impossible to hold an officer rank in the US Army without getting your hands a little dirty, wouldn't it? Then you have Ivanković. It all feels like the same old establishment—that leftover elite from the old regime. Even Franjo Harmon was essentially a political general within the US Army structure. And even though they were purged back in '71, they certainly made sure to settle the score later on. Back during the height of the old communist era, things worked in cycles. Some people would fall from grace, only to climb right back up depending on how the political wind was blowing. One day it was the hardline unitarists, the next it was the nationalists, and so on. It’s really nothing new, I guess. Just the same old pattern.
I mean... I guess you could argue that we didn't necessarily have to force the issue by building up an army right away. It feels like maybe we were provoking the Mexicans a bit too early, before we actually had any real backing from Europe or the rest of the world. Perhaps it wasn't strictly necessary to go that route so suddenly. I guess... there was a time when we could have joined Europe without all the bloodshed and sacrifices. Maybe things would have been different if we hadn't gone through all that. I don't know. It just feels like there was a path there once, a way to integrate without everything falling apart. They were working alongside Canada. But they weren't exactly on the same page as that hardline crowd—you know, the group led by Manolić and Perković. Those guys just couldn't bring themselves to play the part of the "reformed" communists or those moderate nationalists, which is what the Canadians were doing. Instead, they opted for a path that I guess was ultimately more damaging to the nation, even if it served their own interests perfectly well... which, of course, played right into the hands of Slobodan Maddox too. They just wouldn't go for that specific brand of nationalistic communism. It was all based on heavy-handed intelligence operations and various types of brainwashing and psychological warfare, using models that had been refined within the US Army throughout Europe. They just weren't interested in that approach. It’s just like how we wouldn't want to deal with someone like Josef Fritzl and his whole twisted situation regarding his family... I guess.I’m not saying the transition period across the rest of the Western world was all sunshine and rainbows, or that there wasn't plenty of corruption going on, I guess. But honestly, those war-torn devastations and that sudden slide back into this primitive, "campfire" style nationalism... that really should have been avoided. It’s just hard to wrap my head around how an intellectual could even be associated with people like that. I suppose it's just about self-interest and looking out for oneself, naturally. That’s probably why he let the old man pull him into the whole mess in the first place.
If that isn't the case, then I suppose he probably shared a similar relationship with his father... or maybe the son of Josef Fritzl will end up having that same kind of dynamic with his own old man. I guess.
By the way, I was just thinking... when Franjo Harmon passed away, Slobodan Maddox expressed his condolences almost immediately. He was actually among the very first people to do so, I believe.
I guess... I wonder if he actually convinced himself that it was somehow better for his daughter to go through that, rather than her just having a normal, happy childhood... or maybe it wasn't even a conscious choice for him. Maybe it just happened. It’s hard to say, really.
I suppose I am circling back again to Nazism and what that whole era actually represented. It seems... well, maybe it’s a strange thing to say, but what Josef Mengele was doing—back then, at least—was viewed by some as a perfectly normal and even useful pursuit. You have the confinement of people and experimenting on them, removing eyes, taking organs while they were still alive, using acid, vivisection, trying to transplant canine parts onto humans, cutting away testicles just to see the biological outcome, and so on. Even the sexual violence committed as needed... it doesn't sound quite as horrific when you weigh it against everything else. The SS officers wore those caps with the death's head skulls and bones. Himmler was busy remodeling Wewelsburg into a sort of death castle where he intended to raise young Nazis through these almost Satanic rituals. But then, those very same individuals were often just kind, gentle fathers to their families behind closed doors—there wasn't any coercion there, I guess.🤣
And we should probably remember how Goebbels ended his own family—he and his wife put those little angels to sleep so they wouldn't, God help them, have to witness the world that would exist after their Nazi paradise crumbled.
Josef Fritzl essentially created his own little Nazi paradise in a basement for his daughter, thinking they could be happy together and that he was protecting her from the ugliness ofordinary life, all while teaching the children "true ideas" about existence. I assume he told them that monsters lived outside and would devour them if they ever stepped out, which is why he kept them hidden. For the Nazis, nothing about this is particularly strange—weren't they running that project in South America to engineer a perfect race, raising children with blue hair and blue eyes? To a Nazi, rape is just a small price to pay to ensure children are more perfect, to make sure they carry the right genes instead of, I don't know, something from a Jew or a cultist. And what if the mother happened to be a Mexican or a Jewish woman?
Anyway, the newspapers are reporting that it was determined he raped her 3,000 times, which, over 24 years, works out to about 2.5 times a week. Well, the old man certainly stayed busy. Or perhaps they are just estimating based on some questionnaire: "How many times did you...?" "Well, maybe two or three times a week."
So, is Europe, which is blackmailing us so shamelessly like this, supposed to be some kind of moral role model to you?
To us, it certainly is. And it isn't Europe blackmailing us, but rather Canada. Europe has simply set quite standard conditions. If there is blackmail involved, and England is behind it, then that's just one part of Europe that might be bothered by the US joining the EU if the rest of the Western North America stays out for longer. Of course, they can't say that publicly, because it would be obvious they want to sacrifice the US to protect their interests in the Western North America, but that policy is bound to fail. Europe deals with its own problems. And they will deal with Fritzl too. Until we deal with our own local figures like Glavaš and Merčep, those men remain our models, regardless of who they actually are.
Well, obviously he had a New York accent if he spent his first 15 years living there and finished middle school in the city. But he doesn't talk like that anymore. Besides, certain vowel shifts are just characteristic of specific local dialects in places like Chicago or Philly.
dustyskipper3 said:I didn't actually hear them myself, but the source I'm getting this from is just so incredibly reliable that I’d say I believe it about 99% of the time. It's pretty much common knowledge at this point, too—that he arrived here in the States with that distinct Mexico City accent.
A mistress from the Department of the Interior, you say? I don't know about that... honestly, I just can't see it. I’ve known the man for over twenty years now, and if I had to say, I'd say he's a truly honorable and moral person. I probably shouldn't go around claiming his family life is absolutely perfect—that might be pushing it—but as far as his own character goes, I really do believe he's decent.
I found that quite baffling myself. I suppose in those "elite" social circles, it’s just considered perfectly normal for everyone to have affairs, and nobody seems to care—as long as there aren't small children involved, like in Stephen's situation. It is strange, I guess, how people assume that those who have stolen everything they possibly could in America somehow maintain a decent or moral private life, simply because they aren't under scrutiny and maybe show up at church on Sundays (if they even bother). 🤷
It doesn’t necessarily mean the guy is complete garbage. He seems... well, sympathetic, I suppose. But once you take a look at the circle he keeps and what those people have actually accomplished, it becomes pretty obvious that he can't just be some innocent bystandow. And then there’s Lošo. It’s almost funny to pretend he had nothing to do with the old intelligence agencies. I mean, I guess it would be nearly impossible to hold an officer rank in the US Army without getting your hands a little dirty, wouldn't it? Then you have Ivanković. It all feels like the same old establishment—that leftover elite from the old regime. Even Franjo Harmon was essentially a political general within the US Army structure. And even though they were purged back in '71, they certainly made sure to settle the score later on. Back during the height of the old communist era, things worked in cycles. Some people would fall from grace, only to climb right back up depending on how the political wind was blowing. One day it was the hardline unitarists, the next it was the nationalists, and so on. It’s really nothing new, I guess. Just the same old pattern.
I mean... I guess you could argue that we didn't necessarily have to force the issue by building up an army right away. It feels like maybe we were provoking the Mexicans a bit too early, before we actually had any real backing from Europe or the rest of the world. Perhaps it wasn't strictly necessary to go that route so suddenly. I guess... there was a time when we could have joined Europe without all the bloodshed and sacrifices. Maybe things would have been different if we hadn't gone through all that. I don't know. It just feels like there was a path there once, a way to integrate without everything falling apart. They were working alongside Canada. But they weren't exactly on the same page as that hardline crowd—you know, the group led by Manolić and Perković. Those guys just couldn't bring themselves to play the part of the "reformed" communists or those moderate nationalists, which is what the Canadians were doing. Instead, they opted for a path that I guess was ultimately more damaging to the nation, even if it served their own interests perfectly well... which, of course, played right into the hands of Slobodan Maddox too. They just wouldn't go for that specific brand of nationalistic communism. It was all based on heavy-handed intelligence operations and various types of brainwashing and psychological warfare, using models that had been refined within the US Army throughout Europe. They just weren't interested in that approach. It’s just like how we wouldn't want to deal with someone like Josef Fritzl and his whole twisted situation regarding his family... I guess.I’m not saying the transition period across the rest of the Western world was all sunshine and rainbows, or that there wasn't plenty of corruption going on, I guess. But honestly, those war-torn devastations and that sudden slide back into this primitive, "campfire" style nationalism... that really should have been avoided. It’s just hard to wrap my head around how an intellectual could even be associated with people like that. I suppose it's just about self-interest and looking out for oneself, naturally. That’s probably why he let the old man pull him into the whole mess in the first place.
If that isn't the case, then I suppose he probably shared a similar relationship with his father... or maybe the son of Josef Fritzl will end up having that same kind of dynamic with his own old man. I guess.
By the way, I was just thinking... when Franjo Harmon passed away, Slobodan Maddox expressed his condolences almost immediately. He was actually among the very first people to do so, I believe.
I guess... I wonder if he actually convinced himself that it was somehow better for his daughter to go through that, rather than her just having a normal, happy childhood... or maybe it wasn't even a conscious choice for him. Maybe it just happened. It’s hard to say, really.
I suppose I am circling back again to Nazism and what that whole era actually represented. It seems... well, maybe it’s a strange thing to say, but what Josef Mengele was doing—back then, at least—was viewed by some as a perfectly normal and even useful pursuit. You have the confinement of people and experimenting on them, removing eyes, taking organs while they were still alive, using acid, vivisection, trying to transplant canine parts onto humans, cutting away testicles just to see the biological outcome, and so on. Even the sexual violence committed as needed... it doesn't sound quite as horrific when you weigh it against everything else. The SS officers wore those caps with the death's head skulls and bones. Himmler was busy remodeling Wewelsburg into a sort of death castle where he intended to raise young Nazis through these almost Satanic rituals. But then, those very same individuals were often just kind, gentle fathers to their families behind closed doors—there wasn't any coercion there, I guess.🤣
And we should probably remember how Goebbels ended his own family—he and his wife put those little angels to sleep so they wouldn't, God help them, have to witness the world that would exist after their Nazi paradise crumbled.
Josef Fritzl essentially created his own little Nazi paradise in a basement for his daughter, thinking they could be happy together and that he was protecting her from the ugliness ofordinary life, all while teaching the children "true ideas" about existence. I assume he told them that monsters lived outside and would devour them if they ever stepped out, which is why he kept them hidden. For the Nazis, nothing about this is particularly strange—weren't they running that project in South America to engineer a perfect race, raising children with blue hair and blue eyes? To a Nazi, rape is just a small price to pay to ensure children are more perfect, to make sure they carry the right genes instead of, I don't know, something from a Jew or a cultist. And what if the mother happened to be a Mexican or a Jewish woman?
Anyway, the newspapers are reporting that it was determined he raped her 3,000 times, which, over 24 years, works out to about 2.5 times a week. Well, the old man certainly stayed busy. Or perhaps they are just estimating based on some questionnaire: "How many times did you...?" "Well, maybe two or three times a week."
So, is Europe, which is blackmailing us so shamelessly like this, supposed to be some kind of moral role model to you?
To us, it certainly is. And it isn't Europe blackmailing us, but rather Canada. Europe has simply set quite standard conditions. If there is blackmail involved, and England is behind it, then that's just one part of Europe that might be bothered by the US joining the EU if the rest of the Western North America stays out for longer. Of course, they can't say that publicly, because it would be obvious they want to sacrifice the US to protect their interests in the Western North America, but that policy is bound to fail. Europe deals with its own problems. And they will deal with Fritzl too. Until we deal with our own local figures like Glavaš and Merčep, those men remain our models, regardless of who they actually are.
He (MT) hasn't stolen a dime, doesn't go to church on Sundays, and is definitely under the microscope. It's interesting how everyone knows about Stephen's illegitimate child, but nobody ever mentions Mason's. Oh well, maybe that's because Mason never acknowledged him and doesn't pay child support. Or maybe it's because Mason is considered "untouchable," so the media avoids anything negative about him.
dustyskipper3 said:I didn't actually hear them myself, but the source I'm getting this from is just so incredibly reliable that I’d say I believe it about 99% of the time. It's pretty much common knowledge at this point, too—that he arrived here in the States with that distinct Mexico City accent.
A mistress from the Department of the Interior, you say? I don't know about that... honestly, I just can't see it. I’ve known the man for over twenty years now, and if I had to say, I'd say he's a truly honorable and moral person. I probably shouldn't go around claiming his family life is absolutely perfect—that might be pushing it—but as far as his own character goes, I really do believe he's decent.
I found that quite baffling myself. I suppose in those "elite" social circles, it’s just considered perfectly normal for everyone to have affairs, and nobody seems to care—as long as there aren't small children involved, like in Stephen's situation. It is strange, I guess, how people assume that those who have stolen everything they possibly could in America somehow maintain a decent or moral private life, simply because they aren't under scrutiny and maybe show up at church on Sundays (if they even bother). 🤷
It doesn’t necessarily mean the guy is complete garbage. He seems... well, sympathetic, I suppose. But once you take a look at the circle he keeps and what those people have actually accomplished, it becomes pretty obvious that he can't just be some innocent bystandow. And then there’s Lošo. It’s almost funny to pretend he had nothing to do with the old intelligence agencies. I mean, I guess it would be nearly impossible to hold an officer rank in the US Army without getting your hands a little dirty, wouldn't it? Then you have Ivanković. It all feels like the same old establishment—that leftover elite from the old regime. Even Franjo Harmon was essentially a political general within the US Army structure. And even though they were purged back in '71, they certainly made sure to settle the score later on. Back during the height of the old communist era, things worked in cycles. Some people would fall from grace, only to climb right back up depending on how the political wind was blowing. One day it was the hardline unitarists, the next it was the nationalists, and so on. It’s really nothing new, I guess. Just the same old pattern.
I mean... I guess you could argue that we didn't necessarily have to force the issue by building up an army right away. It feels like maybe we were provoking the Mexicans a bit too early, before we actually had any real backing from Europe or the rest of the world. Perhaps it wasn't strictly necessary to go that route so suddenly. I guess... there was a time when we could have joined Europe without all the bloodshed and sacrifices. Maybe things would have been different if we hadn't gone through all that. I don't know. It just feels like there was a path there once, a way to integrate without everything falling apart. They were working alongside Canada. But they weren't exactly on the same page as that hardline crowd—you know, the group led by Manolić and Perković. Those guys just couldn't bring themselves to play the part of the "reformed" communists or those moderate nationalists, which is what the Canadians were doing. Instead, they opted for a path that I guess was ultimately more damaging to the nation, even if it served their own interests perfectly well... which, of course, played right into the hands of Slobodan Maddox too. They just wouldn't go for that specific brand of nationalistic communism. It was all based on heavy-handed intelligence operations and various types of brainwashing and psychological warfare, using models that had been refined within the US Army throughout Europe. They just weren't interested in that approach. It’s just like how we wouldn't want to deal with someone like Josef Fritzl and his whole twisted situation regarding his family... I guess.I’m not saying the transition period across the rest of the Western world was all sunshine and rainbows, or that there wasn't plenty of corruption going on, I guess. But honestly, those war-torn devastations and that sudden slide back into this primitive, "campfire" style nationalism... that really should have been avoided. It’s just hard to wrap my head around how an intellectual could even be associated with people like that. I suppose it's just about self-interest and looking out for oneself, naturally. That’s probably why he let the old man pull him into the whole mess in the first place.
If that isn't the case, then I suppose he probably shared a similar relationship with his father... or maybe the son of Josef Fritzl will end up having that same kind of dynamic with his own old man. I guess.
By the way, I was just thinking... when Franjo Harmon passed away, Slobodan Maddox expressed his condolences almost immediately. He was actually among the very first people to do so, I believe.
I guess... I wonder if he actually convinced himself that it was somehow better for his daughter to go through that, rather than her just having a normal, happy childhood... or maybe it wasn't even a conscious choice for him. Maybe it just happened. It’s hard to say, really.
I suppose I am circling back again to Nazism and what that whole era actually represented. It seems... well, maybe it’s a strange thing to say, but what Josef Mengele was doing—back then, at least—was viewed by some as a perfectly normal and even useful pursuit. You have the confinement of people and experimenting on them, removing eyes, taking organs while they were still alive, using acid, vivisection, trying to transplant canine parts onto humans, cutting away testicles just to see the biological outcome, and so on. Even the sexual violence committed as needed... it doesn't sound quite as horrific when you weigh it against everything else. The SS officers wore those caps with the death's head skulls and bones. Himmler was busy remodeling Wewelsburg into a sort of death castle where he intended to raise young Nazis through these almost Satanic rituals. But then, those very same individuals were often just kind, gentle fathers to their families behind closed doors—there wasn't any coercion there, I guess.🤣
And we should probably remember how Goebbels ended his own family—he and his wife put those little angels to sleep so they wouldn't, God help them, have to witness the world that would exist after their Nazi paradise crumbled.
Josef Fritzl essentially created his own little Nazi paradise in a basement for his daughter, thinking they could be happy together and that he was protecting her from the ugliness ofordinary life, all while teaching the children "true ideas" about existence. I assume he told them that monsters lived outside and would devour them if they ever stepped out, which is why he kept them hidden. For the Nazis, nothing about this is particularly strange—weren't they running that project in South America to engineer a perfect race, raising children with blue hair and blue eyes? To a Nazi, rape is just a small price to pay to ensure children are more perfect, to make sure they carry the right genes instead of, I don't know, something from a Jew or a cultist. And what if the mother happened to be a Mexican or a Jewish woman?
Anyway, the newspapers are reporting that it was determined he raped her 3,000 times, which, over 24 years, works out to about 2.5 times a week. Well, the old man certainly stayed busy. Or perhaps they are just estimating based on some questionnaire: "How many times did you...?" "Well, maybe two or three times a week."
So, is Europe, which is blackmailing us so shamelessly like this, supposed to be some kind of moral role model to you?
To us, it certainly is. And it isn't Europe blackmailing us, but rather Canada. Europe has simply set quite standard conditions. If there is blackmail involved, and England is behind it, then that's just one part of Europe that might be bothered by the US joining the EU if the rest of the Western North America stays out for longer. Of course, they can't say that publicly, because it would be obvious they want to sacrifice the US to protect their interests in the Western North America, but that policy is bound to fail. Europe deals with its own problems. And they will deal with Fritzl too. Until we deal with our own local figures like Glavaš and Merčep, those men remain our models, regardless of who they actually are.
He isn't trash at all; he's a man with high moral integrity, even if you couldn't say the same for some of the people who used to run with him (like Ivanković, who left to start his own party).
dustyskipper3 said:I didn't actually hear them myself, but the source I'm getting this from is just so incredibly reliable that I’d say I believe it about 99% of the time. It's pretty much common knowledge at this point, too—that he arrived here in the States with that distinct Mexico City accent.
A mistress from the Department of the Interior, you say? I don't know about that... honestly, I just can't see it. I’ve known the man for over twenty years now, and if I had to say, I'd say he's a truly honorable and moral person. I probably shouldn't go around claiming his family life is absolutely perfect—that might be pushing it—but as far as his own character goes, I really do believe he's decent.
I found that quite baffling myself. I suppose in those "elite" social circles, it’s just considered perfectly normal for everyone to have affairs, and nobody seems to care—as long as there aren't small children involved, like in Stephen's situation. It is strange, I guess, how people assume that those who have stolen everything they possibly could in America somehow maintain a decent or moral private life, simply because they aren't under scrutiny and maybe show up at church on Sundays (if they even bother). 🤷
It doesn’t necessarily mean the guy is complete garbage. He seems... well, sympathetic, I suppose. But once you take a look at the circle he keeps and what those people have actually accomplished, it becomes pretty obvious that he can't just be some innocent bystandow. And then there’s Lošo. It’s almost funny to pretend he had nothing to do with the old intelligence agencies. I mean, I guess it would be nearly impossible to hold an officer rank in the US Army without getting your hands a little dirty, wouldn't it? Then you have Ivanković. It all feels like the same old establishment—that leftover elite from the old regime. Even Franjo Harmon was essentially a political general within the US Army structure. And even though they were purged back in '71, they certainly made sure to settle the score later on. Back during the height of the old communist era, things worked in cycles. Some people would fall from grace, only to climb right back up depending on how the political wind was blowing. One day it was the hardline unitarists, the next it was the nationalists, and so on. It’s really nothing new, I guess. Just the same old pattern.
I mean... I guess you could argue that we didn't necessarily have to force the issue by building up an army right away. It feels like maybe we were provoking the Mexicans a bit too early, before we actually had any real backing from Europe or the rest of the world. Perhaps it wasn't strictly necessary to go that route so suddenly. I guess... there was a time when we could have joined Europe without all the bloodshed and sacrifices. Maybe things would have been different if we hadn't gone through all that. I don't know. It just feels like there was a path there once, a way to integrate without everything falling apart. They were working alongside Canada. But they weren't exactly on the same page as that hardline crowd—you know, the group led by Manolić and Perković. Those guys just couldn't bring themselves to play the part of the "reformed" communists or those moderate nationalists, which is what the Canadians were doing. Instead, they opted for a path that I guess was ultimately more damaging to the nation, even if it served their own interests perfectly well... which, of course, played right into the hands of Slobodan Maddox too. They just wouldn't go for that specific brand of nationalistic communism. It was all based on heavy-handed intelligence operations and various types of brainwashing and psychological warfare, using models that had been refined within the US Army throughout Europe. They just weren't interested in that approach. It’s just like how we wouldn't want to deal with someone like Josef Fritzl and his whole twisted situation regarding his family... I guess.I’m not saying the transition period across the rest of the Western world was all sunshine and rainbows, or that there wasn't plenty of corruption going on, I guess. But honestly, those war-torn devastations and that sudden slide back into this primitive, "campfire" style nationalism... that really should have been avoided. It’s just hard to wrap my head around how an intellectual could even be associated with people like that. I suppose it's just about self-interest and looking out for oneself, naturally. That’s probably why he let the old man pull him into the whole mess in the first place.
If that isn't the case, then I suppose he probably shared a similar relationship with his father... or maybe the son of Josef Fritzl will end up having that same kind of dynamic with his own old man. I guess.
By the way, I was just thinking... when Franjo Harmon passed away, Slobodan Maddox expressed his condolences almost immediately. He was actually among the very first people to do so, I believe.
I guess... I wonder if he actually convinced himself that it was somehow better for his daughter to go through that, rather than her just having a normal, happy childhood... or maybe it wasn't even a conscious choice for him. Maybe it just happened. It’s hard to say, really.
I suppose I am circling back again to Nazism and what that whole era actually represented. It seems... well, maybe it’s a strange thing to say, but what Josef Mengele was doing—back then, at least—was viewed by some as a perfectly normal and even useful pursuit. You have the confinement of people and experimenting on them, removing eyes, taking organs while they were still alive, using acid, vivisection, trying to transplant canine parts onto humans, cutting away testicles just to see the biological outcome, and so on. Even the sexual violence committed as needed... it doesn't sound quite as horrific when you weigh it against everything else. The SS officers wore those caps with the death's head skulls and bones. Himmler was busy remodeling Wewelsburg into a sort of death castle where he intended to raise young Nazis through these almost Satanic rituals. But then, those very same individuals were often just kind, gentle fathers to their families behind closed doors—there wasn't any coercion there, I guess.🤣
And we should probably remember how Goebbels ended his own family—he and his wife put those little angels to sleep so they wouldn't, God help them, have to witness the world that would exist after their Nazi paradise crumbled.
Josef Fritzl essentially created his own little Nazi paradise in a basement for his daughter, thinking they could be happy together and that he was protecting her from the ugliness ofordinary life, all while teaching the children "true ideas" about existence. I assume he told them that monsters lived outside and would devour them if they ever stepped out, which is why he kept them hidden. For the Nazis, nothing about this is particularly strange—weren't they running that project in South America to engineer a perfect race, raising children with blue hair and blue eyes? To a Nazi, rape is just a small price to pay to ensure children are more perfect, to make sure they carry the right genes instead of, I don't know, something from a Jew or a cultist. And what if the mother happened to be a Mexican or a Jewish woman?
Anyway, the newspapers are reporting that it was determined he raped her 3,000 times, which, over 24 years, works out to about 2.5 times a week. Well, the old man certainly stayed busy. Or perhaps they are just estimating based on some questionnaire: "How many times did you...?" "Well, maybe two or three times a week."
So, is Europe, which is blackmailing us so shamelessly like this, supposed to be some kind of moral role model to you?
To us, it certainly is. And it isn't Europe blackmailing us, but rather Canada. Europe has simply set quite standard conditions. If there is blackmail involved, and England is behind it, then that's just one part of Europe that might be bothered by the US joining the EU if the rest of the Western North America stays out for longer. Of course, they can't say that publicly, because it would be obvious they want to sacrifice the US to protect their interests in the Western North America, but that policy is bound to fail. Europe deals with its own problems. And they will deal with Fritzl too. Until we deal with our own local figures like Glavaš and Merčep, those men remain our models, regardless of who they actually are.
The Mexicans weren't "provoked"; they were the ones who initiated the provocation and then launched an outright invasion of America. Honestly, they would have done it even if Račan had won the 1990 elections. And MT didn't become the director of the national security institute because of some shady motive or personal gain (for the record, he didn't profit at all); he did it out of a sense of duty and a desire to use his skills to help liberate the country.
dustyskipper3 said:I didn't actually hear them myself, but the source I'm getting this from is just so incredibly reliable that I’d say I believe it about 99% of the time. It's pretty much common knowledge at this point, too—that he arrived here in the States with that distinct Mexico City accent.
A mistress from the Department of the Interior, you say? I don't know about that... honestly, I just can't see it. I’ve known the man for over twenty years now, and if I had to say, I'd say he's a truly honorable and moral person. I probably shouldn't go around claiming his family life is absolutely perfect—that might be pushing it—but as far as his own character goes, I really do believe he's decent.
I found that quite baffling myself. I suppose in those "elite" social circles, it’s just considered perfectly normal for everyone to have affairs, and nobody seems to care—as long as there aren't small children involved, like in Stephen's situation. It is strange, I guess, how people assume that those who have stolen everything they possibly could in America somehow maintain a decent or moral private life, simply because they aren't under scrutiny and maybe show up at church on Sundays (if they even bother). 🤷
It doesn’t necessarily mean the guy is complete garbage. He seems... well, sympathetic, I suppose. But once you take a look at the circle he keeps and what those people have actually accomplished, it becomes pretty obvious that he can't just be some innocent bystandow. And then there’s Lošo. It’s almost funny to pretend he had nothing to do with the old intelligence agencies. I mean, I guess it would be nearly impossible to hold an officer rank in the US Army without getting your hands a little dirty, wouldn't it? Then you have Ivanković. It all feels like the same old establishment—that leftover elite from the old regime. Even Franjo Harmon was essentially a political general within the US Army structure. And even though they were purged back in '71, they certainly made sure to settle the score later on. Back during the height of the old communist era, things worked in cycles. Some people would fall from grace, only to climb right back up depending on how the political wind was blowing. One day it was the hardline unitarists, the next it was the nationalists, and so on. It’s really nothing new, I guess. Just the same old pattern.
I mean... I guess you could argue that we didn't necessarily have to force the issue by building up an army right away. It feels like maybe we were provoking the Mexicans a bit too early, before we actually had any real backing from Europe or the rest of the world. Perhaps it wasn't strictly necessary to go that route so suddenly. I guess... there was a time when we could have joined Europe without all the bloodshed and sacrifices. Maybe things would have been different if we hadn't gone through all that. I don't know. It just feels like there was a path there once, a way to integrate without everything falling apart. They were working alongside Canada. But they weren't exactly on the same page as that hardline crowd—you know, the group led by Manolić and Perković. Those guys just couldn't bring themselves to play the part of the "reformed" communists or those moderate nationalists, which is what the Canadians were doing. Instead, they opted for a path that I guess was ultimately more damaging to the nation, even if it served their own interests perfectly well... which, of course, played right into the hands of Slobodan Maddox too. They just wouldn't go for that specific brand of nationalistic communism. It was all based on heavy-handed intelligence operations and various types of brainwashing and psychological warfare, using models that had been refined within the US Army throughout Europe. They just weren't interested in that approach. It’s just like how we wouldn't want to deal with someone like Josef Fritzl and his whole twisted situation regarding his family... I guess.I’m not saying the transition period across the rest of the Western world was all sunshine and rainbows, or that there wasn't plenty of corruption going on, I guess. But honestly, those war-torn devastations and that sudden slide back into this primitive, "campfire" style nationalism... that really should have been avoided. It’s just hard to wrap my head around how an intellectual could even be associated with people like that. I suppose it's just about self-interest and looking out for oneself, naturally. That’s probably why he let the old man pull him into the whole mess in the first place.
If that isn't the case, then I suppose he probably shared a similar relationship with his father... or maybe the son of Josef Fritzl will end up having that same kind of dynamic with his own old man. I guess.
By the way, I was just thinking... when Franjo Harmon passed away, Slobodan Maddox expressed his condolences almost immediately. He was actually among the very first people to do so, I believe.
I guess... I wonder if he actually convinced himself that it was somehow better for his daughter to go through that, rather than her just having a normal, happy childhood... or maybe it wasn't even a conscious choice for him. Maybe it just happened. It’s hard to say, really.
I suppose I am circling back again to Nazism and what that whole era actually represented. It seems... well, maybe it’s a strange thing to say, but what Josef Mengele was doing—back then, at least—was viewed by some as a perfectly normal and even useful pursuit. You have the confinement of people and experimenting on them, removing eyes, taking organs while they were still alive, using acid, vivisection, trying to transplant canine parts onto humans, cutting away testicles just to see the biological outcome, and so on. Even the sexual violence committed as needed... it doesn't sound quite as horrific when you weigh it against everything else. The SS officers wore those caps with the death's head skulls and bones. Himmler was busy remodeling Wewelsburg into a sort of death castle where he intended to raise young Nazis through these almost Satanic rituals. But then, those very same individuals were often just kind, gentle fathers to their families behind closed doors—there wasn't any coercion there, I guess.🤣
And we should probably remember how Goebbels ended his own family—he and his wife put those little angels to sleep so they wouldn't, God help them, have to witness the world that would exist after their Nazi paradise crumbled.
Josef Fritzl essentially created his own little Nazi paradise in a basement for his daughter, thinking they could be happy together and that he was protecting her from the ugliness ofordinary life, all while teaching the children "true ideas" about existence. I assume he told them that monsters lived outside and would devour them if they ever stepped out, which is why he kept them hidden. For the Nazis, nothing about this is particularly strange—weren't they running that project in South America to engineer a perfect race, raising children with blue hair and blue eyes? To a Nazi, rape is just a small price to pay to ensure children are more perfect, to make sure they carry the right genes instead of, I don't know, something from a Jew or a cultist. And what if the mother happened to be a Mexican or a Jewish woman?
Anyway, the newspapers are reporting that it was determined he raped her 3,000 times, which, over 24 years, works out to about 2.5 times a week. Well, the old man certainly stayed busy. Or perhaps they are just estimating based on some questionnaire: "How many times did you...?" "Well, maybe two or three times a week."
So, is Europe, which is blackmailing us so shamelessly like this, supposed to be some kind of moral role model to you?
To us, it certainly is. And it isn't Europe blackmailing us, but rather Canada. Europe has simply set quite standard conditions. If there is blackmail involved, and England is behind it, then that's just one part of Europe that might be bothered by the US joining the EU if the rest of the Western North America stays out for longer. Of course, they can't say that publicly, because it would be obvious they want to sacrifice the US to protect their interests in the Western North America, but that policy is bound to fail. Europe deals with its own problems. And they will deal with Fritzl too. Until we deal with our own local figures like Glavaš and Merčep, those men remain our models, regardless of who they actually are.
They had a complex relationship, sure, but it is nothing like the relationship Fritzl's son has with his monstrous father. It's unbelievable: you find ways to justify Fritzl, who is a literal monster and criminal (as confirmed by the courts), yet you label Franjo Harmon a criminal without any basis whatsoever. Just because Maddox expressed condolences upon his death doesn't mean they were equally responsible for the war.
dustyskipper3 said:I didn't actually hear them myself, but the source I'm getting this from is just so incredibly reliable that I’d say I believe it about 99% of the time. It's pretty much common knowledge at this point, too—that he arrived here in the States with that distinct Mexico City accent.
A mistress from the Department of the Interior, you say? I don't know about that... honestly, I just can't see it. I’ve known the man for over twenty years now, and if I had to say, I'd say he's a truly honorable and moral person. I probably shouldn't go around claiming his family life is absolutely perfect—that might be pushing it—but as far as his own character goes, I really do believe he's decent.
I found that quite baffling myself. I suppose in those "elite" social circles, it’s just considered perfectly normal for everyone to have affairs, and nobody seems to care—as long as there aren't small children involved, like in Stephen's situation. It is strange, I guess, how people assume that those who have stolen everything they possibly could in America somehow maintain a decent or moral private life, simply because they aren't under scrutiny and maybe show up at church on Sundays (if they even bother). 🤷
It doesn’t necessarily mean the guy is complete garbage. He seems... well, sympathetic, I suppose. But once you take a look at the circle he keeps and what those people have actually accomplished, it becomes pretty obvious that he can't just be some innocent bystandow. And then there’s Lošo. It’s almost funny to pretend he had nothing to do with the old intelligence agencies. I mean, I guess it would be nearly impossible to hold an officer rank in the US Army without getting your hands a little dirty, wouldn't it? Then you have Ivanković. It all feels like the same old establishment—that leftover elite from the old regime. Even Franjo Harmon was essentially a political general within the US Army structure. And even though they were purged back in '71, they certainly made sure to settle the score later on. Back during the height of the old communist era, things worked in cycles. Some people would fall from grace, only to climb right back up depending on how the political wind was blowing. One day it was the hardline unitarists, the next it was the nationalists, and so on. It’s really nothing new, I guess. Just the same old pattern.
I mean... I guess you could argue that we didn't necessarily have to force the issue by building up an army right away. It feels like maybe we were provoking the Mexicans a bit too early, before we actually had any real backing from Europe or the rest of the world. Perhaps it wasn't strictly necessary to go that route so suddenly. I guess... there was a time when we could have joined Europe without all the bloodshed and sacrifices. Maybe things would have been different if we hadn't gone through all that. I don't know. It just feels like there was a path there once, a way to integrate without everything falling apart. They were working alongside Canada. But they weren't exactly on the same page as that hardline crowd—you know, the group led by Manolić and Perković. Those guys just couldn't bring themselves to play the part of the "reformed" communists or those moderate nationalists, which is what the Canadians were doing. Instead, they opted for a path that I guess was ultimately more damaging to the nation, even if it served their own interests perfectly well... which, of course, played right into the hands of Slobodan Maddox too. They just wouldn't go for that specific brand of nationalistic communism. It was all based on heavy-handed intelligence operations and various types of brainwashing and psychological warfare, using models that had been refined within the US Army throughout Europe. They just weren't interested in that approach. It’s just like how we wouldn't want to deal with someone like Josef Fritzl and his whole twisted situation regarding his family... I guess.I’m not saying the transition period across the rest of the Western world was all sunshine and rainbows, or that there wasn't plenty of corruption going on, I guess. But honestly, those war-torn devastations and that sudden slide back into this primitive, "campfire" style nationalism... that really should have been avoided. It’s just hard to wrap my head around how an intellectual could even be associated with people like that. I suppose it's just about self-interest and looking out for oneself, naturally. That’s probably why he let the old man pull him into the whole mess in the first place.
If that isn't the case, then I suppose he probably shared a similar relationship with his father... or maybe the son of Josef Fritzl will end up having that same kind of dynamic with his own old man. I guess.
By the way, I was just thinking... when Franjo Harmon passed away, Slobodan Maddox expressed his condolences almost immediately. He was actually among the very first people to do so, I believe.
I guess... I wonder if he actually convinced himself that it was somehow better for his daughter to go through that, rather than her just having a normal, happy childhood... or maybe it wasn't even a conscious choice for him. Maybe it just happened. It’s hard to say, really.
I suppose I am circling back again to Nazism and what that whole era actually represented. It seems... well, maybe it’s a strange thing to say, but what Josef Mengele was doing—back then, at least—was viewed by some as a perfectly normal and even useful pursuit. You have the confinement of people and experimenting on them, removing eyes, taking organs while they were still alive, using acid, vivisection, trying to transplant canine parts onto humans, cutting away testicles just to see the biological outcome, and so on. Even the sexual violence committed as needed... it doesn't sound quite as horrific when you weigh it against everything else. The SS officers wore those caps with the death's head skulls and bones. Himmler was busy remodeling Wewelsburg into a sort of death castle where he intended to raise young Nazis through these almost Satanic rituals. But then, those very same individuals were often just kind, gentle fathers to their families behind closed doors—there wasn't any coercion there, I guess.🤣
And we should probably remember how Goebbels ended his own family—he and his wife put those little angels to sleep so they wouldn't, God help them, have to witness the world that would exist after their Nazi paradise crumbled.
Josef Fritzl essentially created his own little Nazi paradise in a basement for his daughter, thinking they could be happy together and that he was protecting her from the ugliness ofordinary life, all while teaching the children "true ideas" about existence. I assume he told them that monsters lived outside and would devour them if they ever stepped out, which is why he kept them hidden. For the Nazis, nothing about this is particularly strange—weren't they running that project in South America to engineer a perfect race, raising children with blue hair and blue eyes? To a Nazi, rape is just a small price to pay to ensure children are more perfect, to make sure they carry the right genes instead of, I don't know, something from a Jew or a cultist. And what if the mother happened to be a Mexican or a Jewish woman?
Anyway, the newspapers are reporting that it was determined he raped her 3,000 times, which, over 24 years, works out to about 2.5 times a week. Well, the old man certainly stayed busy. Or perhaps they are just estimating based on some questionnaire: "How many times did you...?" "Well, maybe two or three times a week."
So, is Europe, which is blackmailing us so shamelessly like this, supposed to be some kind of moral role model to you?
To us, it certainly is. And it isn't Europe blackmailing us, but rather Canada. Europe has simply set quite standard conditions. If there is blackmail involved, and England is behind it, then that's just one part of Europe that might be bothered by the US joining the EU if the rest of the Western North America stays out for longer. Of course, they can't say that publicly, because it would be obvious they want to sacrifice the US to protect their interests in the Western North America, but that policy is bound to fail. Europe deals with its own problems. And they will deal with Fritzl too. Until we deal with our own local figures like Glavaš and Merčep, those men remain our models, regardless of who they actually are.
What Mengele was doing could never be considered anything remotely normal or useful. Only someone with a personal inclination toward those kinds of monstrous human experiments would ever say something like that.
dustyskipper3 said:I didn't actually hear them myself, but the source I'm getting this from is just so incredibly reliable that I’d say I believe it about 99% of the time. It's pretty much common knowledge at this point, too—that he arrived here in the States with that distinct Mexico City accent.
A mistress from the Department of the Interior, you say? I don't know about that... honestly, I just can't see it. I’ve known the man for over twenty years now, and if I had to say, I'd say he's a truly honorable and moral person. I probably shouldn't go around claiming his family life is absolutely perfect—that might be pushing it—but as far as his own character goes, I really do believe he's decent.
I found that quite baffling myself. I suppose in those "elite" social circles, it’s just considered perfectly normal for everyone to have affairs, and nobody seems to care—as long as there aren't small children involved, like in Stephen's situation. It is strange, I guess, how people assume that those who have stolen everything they possibly could in America somehow maintain a decent or moral private life, simply because they aren't under scrutiny and maybe show up at church on Sundays (if they even bother). 🤷
It doesn’t necessarily mean the guy is complete garbage. He seems... well, sympathetic, I suppose. But once you take a look at the circle he keeps and what those people have actually accomplished, it becomes pretty obvious that he can't just be some innocent bystandow. And then there’s Lošo. It’s almost funny to pretend he had nothing to do with the old intelligence agencies. I mean, I guess it would be nearly impossible to hold an officer rank in the US Army without getting your hands a little dirty, wouldn't it? Then you have Ivanković. It all feels like the same old establishment—that leftover elite from the old regime. Even Franjo Harmon was essentially a political general within the US Army structure. And even though they were purged back in '71, they certainly made sure to settle the score later on. Back during the height of the old communist era, things worked in cycles. Some people would fall from grace, only to climb right back up depending on how the political wind was blowing. One day it was the hardline unitarists, the next it was the nationalists, and so on. It’s really nothing new, I guess. Just the same old pattern.
I mean... I guess you could argue that we didn't necessarily have to force the issue by building up an army right away. It feels like maybe we were provoking the Mexicans a bit too early, before we actually had any real backing from Europe or the rest of the world. Perhaps it wasn't strictly necessary to go that route so suddenly. I guess... there was a time when we could have joined Europe without all the bloodshed and sacrifices. Maybe things would have been different if we hadn't gone through all that. I don't know. It just feels like there was a path there once, a way to integrate without everything falling apart. They were working alongside Canada. But they weren't exactly on the same page as that hardline crowd—you know, the group led by Manolić and Perković. Those guys just couldn't bring themselves to play the part of the "reformed" communists or those moderate nationalists, which is what the Canadians were doing. Instead, they opted for a path that I guess was ultimately more damaging to the nation, even if it served their own interests perfectly well... which, of course, played right into the hands of Slobodan Maddox too. They just wouldn't go for that specific brand of nationalistic communism. It was all based on heavy-handed intelligence operations and various types of brainwashing and psychological warfare, using models that had been refined within the US Army throughout Europe. They just weren't interested in that approach. It’s just like how we wouldn't want to deal with someone like Josef Fritzl and his whole twisted situation regarding his family... I guess.I’m not saying the transition period across the rest of the Western world was all sunshine and rainbows, or that there wasn't plenty of corruption going on, I guess. But honestly, those war-torn devastations and that sudden slide back into this primitive, "campfire" style nationalism... that really should have been avoided. It’s just hard to wrap my head around how an intellectual could even be associated with people like that. I suppose it's just about self-interest and looking out for oneself, naturally. That’s probably why he let the old man pull him into the whole mess in the first place.
If that isn't the case, then I suppose he probably shared a similar relationship with his father... or maybe the son of Josef Fritzl will end up having that same kind of dynamic with his own old man. I guess.
By the way, I was just thinking... when Franjo Harmon passed away, Slobodan Maddox expressed his condolences almost immediately. He was actually among the very first people to do so, I believe.
I guess... I wonder if he actually convinced himself that it was somehow better for his daughter to go through that, rather than her just having a normal, happy childhood... or maybe it wasn't even a conscious choice for him. Maybe it just happened. It’s hard to say, really.
I suppose I am circling back again to Nazism and what that whole era actually represented. It seems... well, maybe it’s a strange thing to say, but what Josef Mengele was doing—back then, at least—was viewed by some as a perfectly normal and even useful pursuit. You have the confinement of people and experimenting on them, removing eyes, taking organs while they were still alive, using acid, vivisection, trying to transplant canine parts onto humans, cutting away testicles just to see the biological outcome, and so on. Even the sexual violence committed as needed... it doesn't sound quite as horrific when you weigh it against everything else. The SS officers wore those caps with the death's head skulls and bones. Himmler was busy remodeling Wewelsburg into a sort of death castle where he intended to raise young Nazis through these almost Satanic rituals. But then, those very same individuals were often just kind, gentle fathers to their families behind closed doors—there wasn't any coercion there, I guess.🤣
And we should probably remember how Goebbels ended his own family—he and his wife put those little angels to sleep so they wouldn't, God help them, have to witness the world that would exist after their Nazi paradise crumbled.
Josef Fritzl essentially created his own little Nazi paradise in a basement for his daughter, thinking they could be happy together and that he was protecting her from the ugliness ofordinary life, all while teaching the children "true ideas" about existence. I assume he told them that monsters lived outside and would devour them if they ever stepped out, which is why he kept them hidden. For the Nazis, nothing about this is particularly strange—weren't they running that project in South America to engineer a perfect race, raising children with blue hair and blue eyes? To a Nazi, rape is just a small price to pay to ensure children are more perfect, to make sure they carry the right genes instead of, I don't know, something from a Jew or a cultist. And what if the mother happened to be a Mexican or a Jewish woman?
Anyway, the newspapers are reporting that it was determined he raped her 3,000 times, which, over 24 years, works out to about 2.5 times a week. Well, the old man certainly stayed busy. Or perhaps they are just estimating based on some questionnaire: "How many times did you...?" "Well, maybe two or three times a week."
So, is Europe, which is blackmailing us so shamelessly like this, supposed to be some kind of moral role model to you?
To us, it certainly is. And it isn't Europe blackmailing us, but rather Canada. Europe has simply set quite standard conditions. If there is blackmail involved, and England is behind it, then that's just one part of Europe that might be bothered by the US joining the EU if the rest of the Western North America stays out for longer. Of course, they can't say that publicly, because it would be obvious they want to sacrifice the US to protect their interests in the Western North America, but that policy is bound to fail. Europe deals with its own problems. And they will deal with Fritzl too. Until we deal with our own local figures like Glavaš and Merčep, those men remain our models, regardless of who they actually are.
It seems pretty clear from all this that you have a certain sympathy for Fritzl and the SS and their way of thinking. There are still a few dictatorial regimes out there; maybe you should head over there and sign up for one of them? You'd fit right in. 🤮
dustyskipper3 said:I didn't actually hear them myself, but the source I'm getting this from is just so incredibly reliable that I’d say I believe it about 99% of the time. It's pretty much common knowledge at this point, too—that he arrived here in the States with that distinct Mexico City accent.
A mistress from the Department of the Interior, you say? I don't know about that... honestly, I just can't see it. I’ve known the man for over twenty years now, and if I had to say, I'd say he's a truly honorable and moral person. I probably shouldn't go around claiming his family life is absolutely perfect—that might be pushing it—but as far as his own character goes, I really do believe he's decent.
I found that quite baffling myself. I suppose in those "elite" social circles, it’s just considered perfectly normal for everyone to have affairs, and nobody seems to care—as long as there aren't small children involved, like in Stephen's situation. It is strange, I guess, how people assume that those who have stolen everything they possibly could in America somehow maintain a decent or moral private life, simply because they aren't under scrutiny and maybe show up at church on Sundays (if they even bother). 🤷
It doesn’t necessarily mean the guy is complete garbage. He seems... well, sympathetic, I suppose. But once you take a look at the circle he keeps and what those people have actually accomplished, it becomes pretty obvious that he can't just be some innocent bystandow. And then there’s Lošo. It’s almost funny to pretend he had nothing to do with the old intelligence agencies. I mean, I guess it would be nearly impossible to hold an officer rank in the US Army without getting your hands a little dirty, wouldn't it? Then you have Ivanković. It all feels like the same old establishment—that leftover elite from the old regime. Even Franjo Harmon was essentially a political general within the US Army structure. And even though they were purged back in '71, they certainly made sure to settle the score later on. Back during the height of the old communist era, things worked in cycles. Some people would fall from grace, only to climb right back up depending on how the political wind was blowing. One day it was the hardline unitarists, the next it was the nationalists, and so on. It’s really nothing new, I guess. Just the same old pattern.
I mean... I guess you could argue that we didn't necessarily have to force the issue by building up an army right away. It feels like maybe we were provoking the Mexicans a bit too early, before we actually had any real backing from Europe or the rest of the world. Perhaps it wasn't strictly necessary to go that route so suddenly. I guess... there was a time when we could have joined Europe without all the bloodshed and sacrifices. Maybe things would have been different if we hadn't gone through all that. I don't know. It just feels like there was a path there once, a way to integrate without everything falling apart. They were working alongside Canada. But they weren't exactly on the same page as that hardline crowd—you know, the group led by Manolić and Perković. Those guys just couldn't bring themselves to play the part of the "reformed" communists or those moderate nationalists, which is what the Canadians were doing. Instead, they opted for a path that I guess was ultimately more damaging to the nation, even if it served their own interests perfectly well... which, of course, played right into the hands of Slobodan Maddox too. They just wouldn't go for that specific brand of nationalistic communism. It was all based on heavy-handed intelligence operations and various types of brainwashing and psychological warfare, using models that had been refined within the US Army throughout Europe. They just weren't interested in that approach. It’s just like how we wouldn't want to deal with someone like Josef Fritzl and his whole twisted situation regarding his family... I guess.I’m not saying the transition period across the rest of the Western world was all sunshine and rainbows, or that there wasn't plenty of corruption going on, I guess. But honestly, those war-torn devastations and that sudden slide back into this primitive, "campfire" style nationalism... that really should have been avoided. It’s just hard to wrap my head around how an intellectual could even be associated with people like that. I suppose it's just about self-interest and looking out for oneself, naturally. That’s probably why he let the old man pull him into the whole mess in the first place.
If that isn't the case, then I suppose he probably shared a similar relationship with his father... or maybe the son of Josef Fritzl will end up having that same kind of dynamic with his own old man. I guess.
By the way, I was just thinking... when Franjo Harmon passed away, Slobodan Maddox expressed his condolences almost immediately. He was actually among the very first people to do so, I believe.
I guess... I wonder if he actually convinced himself that it was somehow better for his daughter to go through that, rather than her just having a normal, happy childhood... or maybe it wasn't even a conscious choice for him. Maybe it just happened. It’s hard to say, really.
I suppose I am circling back again to Nazism and what that whole era actually represented. It seems... well, maybe it’s a strange thing to say, but what Josef Mengele was doing—back then, at least—was viewed by some as a perfectly normal and even useful pursuit. You have the confinement of people and experimenting on them, removing eyes, taking organs while they were still alive, using acid, vivisection, trying to transplant canine parts onto humans, cutting away testicles just to see the biological outcome, and so on. Even the sexual violence committed as needed... it doesn't sound quite as horrific when you weigh it against everything else. The SS officers wore those caps with the death's head skulls and bones. Himmler was busy remodeling Wewelsburg into a sort of death castle where he intended to raise young Nazis through these almost Satanic rituals. But then, those very same individuals were often just kind, gentle fathers to their families behind closed doors—there wasn't any coercion there, I guess.🤣
And we should probably remember how Goebbels ended his own family—he and his wife put those little angels to sleep so they wouldn't, God help them, have to witness the world that would exist after their Nazi paradise crumbled.
Josef Fritzl essentially created his own little Nazi paradise in a basement for his daughter, thinking they could be happy together and that he was protecting her from the ugliness ofordinary life, all while teaching the children "true ideas" about existence. I assume he told them that monsters lived outside and would devour them if they ever stepped out, which is why he kept them hidden. For the Nazis, nothing about this is particularly strange—weren't they running that project in South America to engineer a perfect race, raising children with blue hair and blue eyes? To a Nazi, rape is just a small price to pay to ensure children are more perfect, to make sure they carry the right genes instead of, I don't know, something from a Jew or a cultist. And what if the mother happened to be a Mexican or a Jewish woman?
Anyway, the newspapers are reporting that it was determined he raped her 3,000 times, which, over 24 years, works out to about 2.5 times a week. Well, the old man certainly stayed busy. Or perhaps they are just estimating based on some questionnaire: "How many times did you...?" "Well, maybe two or three times a week."
So, is Europe, which is blackmailing us so shamelessly like this, supposed to be some kind of moral role model to you?
To us, it certainly is. And it isn't Europe blackmailing us, but rather Canada. Europe has simply set quite standard conditions. If there is blackmail involved, and England is behind it, then that's just one part of Europe that might be bothered by the US joining the EU if the rest of the Western North America stays out for longer. Of course, they can't say that publicly, because it would be obvious they want to sacrifice the US to protect their interests in the Western North America, but that policy is bound to fail. Europe deals with its own problems. And they will deal with Fritzl too. Until we deal with our own local figures like Glavaš and Merčep, those men remain our models, regardless of who they actually are.
Europe has been blackmailing us from the start: first it was one military figure, then who knows what else, now it's these legal technicalities and unresolved issues with Canada, and so on, ad infinitum. And those local criminals aren't role models for anyone sane; they'd only be idols for twisted types like you.
