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blueotter70 blueotter70 MemberOP
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#1 ·
Bahrain halts gas talks with Iran as row deepens

Bahrain-Iran row deepens

Every other day, Iran and its leadership start making claims over this tiny, wealthy kingdom—and honestly, the American media stays suspiciously quiet about these blatant threats. It’s pretty pathetic...

Since I keep an eye on international news, I can tell you this isn't new—Iranian officials basically claim Bahrain belongs to them a few times every year just to mess with their sovereignty. Even Kuwait stood up to these claims, mostly because they've dealt with enough territorial bullying from Iraq themselves. This whole thing feels like a rerun of the Kuwait-Iraq situation... it's a perfect example of what Iran would pull on everyone nearby if the USA wasn't standing by Bahrain as a fierce ally.

So, are the local "peacekeepers" going to show up now? Will they finally raise their voices against Iran’s hostile ambitions toward neighboring states, or will they just stay silent while Iran pushes its imperialist agenda? This is just one small glimpse into why there’ll never be peace in the Middle East if Iran actually gets an atomic bomb—their intentions toward their neighbors are crystal clear, and without American backing, Iran would likely be at war with smaller Arab states already. At least, that's what some of the top analysts I follow seem to agree on...

Arab states are actually the toughest opponents of Iran's nuclear ambitions, even though global media tends to focus almost entirely on Israel. Egypt and Jordan were quick to back Bahrain, voicing concerns about Iran's growing influence in Iraq, Lebanon, and Syria—not to mention the whole nuclear issue again. Why are they so worried? It’s simple: those Arab states see a massive threat to their own survival in a nuclear-armed Iran. It looks to me like we're heading toward a major showdown between Shia Iran and the Sunni Arab states...
James Nguyen13 James Nguyen13 Regular
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#2 ·
Man, if they actually decided to annex them like the US did with Kuwait, I’d grab some popcorn and settle in to watch Mr. Obama launch "Operation Bahrain Freedom." A little spike in oil prices, a bit of an economic boost, and seeing Iran get knocked down a peg... honestly, Hollywood couldn't even script something that entertaining.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#3 ·
Honestly, I'm pretty let down by the Israelis. I really thought they would have already leveled those nuclear facilities by now...
crimsonranger38 crimsonranger38 Member
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#4 ·
Iran claims they own Bahrain!

All because they’re stuck with a fascist-style regime. Their only move is to bark incessantly about how Bahrain "belongs" to them—that's really the extent of what those religious fanatics in power can manage. 😉
James Nguyen13 James Nguyen13 Regular
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#5 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Honestly, I'm pretty let down by the Israelis. I really thought they would have already leveled those nuclear facilities by now...

It’s just not the right time for the public in the West to be feeling up for it—everything is such a mess right now, so Iran needs to provide some sort of catalyst. Plus, they probably need to wrap things up in Iraq first to free up enough troops for a new operation.
but soon, soon, very soon!
Matthew Perez9 Matthew Perez9 Newcomer
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#6 ·
Everyone’s got their own little group of Canadians to deal with...
ruggedfalcon18 ruggedfalcon18 Newcomer
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#7 ·
Well, this is just spectacular... I mean, I pretty much saw this coming, but seeing it actually unfold? Not so much. I think I need to go grab a drink just to steady my nerves.😬
Kevin Sullivan6 Kevin Sullivan6 Newcomer
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#8 ·
The more slander and falsehoods they throw around, the more I find myself liking Iran.

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Hassan Qashqav insisted on Thursday that IT respects The sovereignty of The Persian Gulf kingdom of Bahrain.
"Our position on Bahrain is clear. We have repeatedly said that we respect the sovereignty and independence of all neighboring countries and the region, especially Bahrain," Qashqav told Al-Alam TV.
crimsonranger38 crimsonranger38 Member
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#9 ·
Sure, and Canada says the exact same thing. 🤮

So I guess that means both Russia and Turkey are lying, or they’re just letting themselves be played like a fiddle. 🤣

Turkey Back Bahrain in face of Iranian territorial claims

Manama - Russia and Turkey on Thursday came out in support of Bahrain, in face of renewed Iranian claims that the Gulf island was an historical province of Iran. Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and his Turkish counterpart Ali Babacan both expressed their countries' support for Bahrain

"It's important to accept The International legitimacy and sovereignty of All countries and refrain from questioning and harming them," Lavrov said when asked about his country's stance on Iran's recent claims.

Your little denial should probably go something like this: 🤣

www.mehrnews.com / www.iranvnc.com 🤣 Of course, the moment the world calls out the Iranian regime, the "apologies and excuses" start rolling in. 🤣
Angela Lee Angela Lee Member
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#10 ·
Kevin Sullivan6 said:The more slander and falsehoods they throw around, the more I find myself liking Iran.

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Hassan Qashqav insisted on Thursday that IT respects The sovereignty of The Persian Gulf kingdom of Bahrain.
"Our position on Bahrain is clear. We have repeatedly said that we respect the sovereignty and independence of all neighboring countries and the region, especially Bahrain," Qashqav told Al-Alam TV.

Shadow really tore your argument apart and debunked it😁. Or, as Shadow puts it, first you have these Iranians making threats, and then after the world reacts with bitterness, they pivot to that classic retreat policy: "Oh, we didn't mean it like that." Honestly, I think only irrational people would argue that Iranians should be allowed to have nuclear weapons; this news is just a fresh example of why Iran can never be permitted to possess them.
Thomas Fowler10 Thomas Fowler10 Newcomer
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#11 ·
It just doesn't work that way, you know? You can't look at this and think things will stay static. First, Iran is going to liberate all of Palestine, and once that happens, those little puppet states they’ve set up? They'll be nothing more than a memory, just gone overnight. It's practically inevitable if you actually look at the board.
So, let's walk through how this is actually going to go down, step by step.👍
Donna Thompson2 Donna Thompson2 Member
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#12 ·
I simply cannot fathom—and I mean, truly, deeply cannot wrap my head around it—how one is expected to maintain any semblance of decorum when faced with such blatant disregard for the established order! It is quite frankly exhausting. One tries to be civil, one tries to follow the rules of engagement, yet here we are again, drifting further into this sea of absolute chaos—and don't even get me started on the sheer lack of foresight exhibited by the leadership lately! It’s all just... well, it's maddening. Truly. Donna Thompson2 says:
It simply cannot happen that way—it’s just not how things work. First, Iran is going to liberate all of Palestine, and once that occurs, those puppet states won't even be a topic of conversation anymore—they'll be a thing of the past!
Alright, let’s get down to business—step by step.👍

Whatever delusions you and the rest of you fanatics might be harboring—go ahead and dream big—it’ll play out exactly how you imagine it will. Don't you worry one bit about it.
Kevin Sullivan6 Kevin Sullivan6 Newcomer
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#13 ·
Hehe, I really think it would be best to start by getting some basic facts straight first.

The population in Bahrain is primarily Shiite.

In Bahrain, political parties are actually prohibited.

If you ask me, the biggest hurdles facing Bahrain aren't coming from their friendly and loyal neighbors in Iran; instead, the real issues are high unemployment—especially among the younger generation—the depletion of oil reserves and groundwater, and the troubling reality that Bahrain serves as a hub for human trafficking involving slavery and sexual exploitation.

It’s such a shame that your favorite relatives won't be able to make any decent money there anymore, so if you happen to find yourselves with extra cash, feel free to send it over to the Jewish community instead.
Nancy Wood6 Nancy Wood6 Active Member
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#14 ·
Kevin Sullivan6 said:Hehe, I really think it would be best to start by getting some basic facts straight first.

The population in Bahrain is primarily Shiite.

In Bahrain, political parties are actually prohibited.

If you ask me, the biggest hurdles facing Bahrain aren't coming from their friendly and loyal neighbors in Iran; instead, the real issues are high unemployment—especially among the younger generation—the depletion of oil reserves and groundwater, and the troubling reality that Bahrain serves as a hub for human trafficking involving slavery and sexual exploitation.

It’s such a shame that your favorite relatives won't be able to make any decent money there anymore, so if you happen to find yourselves with extra cash, feel free to send it over to the Jewish community instead.

You're spot on. Not only are most Bahrainis part of the Shiite Islamic faith, but they're totally oppressed by the Sunni minority in a way that’s even more brutal than what happened in Iraq. But strangely enough, nobody seems to care here, and the Shiite majority—who are the ones being squeezed—aren't exactly playing the "good guys" role like the Iraqis did at the start!

By the way, our friend Marco Andretti—who’s pretty well known for those white supremacist views regarding South Africa and his loud, clear Islamophobia elsewhere—claims he's getting his info from the Kuwait Times. Well, the Kuwait Times is based in Kuwait, a country that’s basically under the thumb of the USA, much like Bahrain is. Even that Kuwait Times report says exactly what Marco Andretti is claiming with total conviction. If Marco Andretti actually understood that phrases like "US-allied island nation over the alleged remarks by an Iranian official last week" or "Ali Akbar Nateq-Nour, an adviser to Iranian Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, allegedly said last week that Sunni-ruled Bahrain, which has a Shiite majority, used to be Iran's 14th governorate and once had a representative in its parliament." , don't actually confirm his claims, he wouldn't even be starting these kinds of threads. Seriously, someone needs to teach Marco Andretti what "alleged" and "allegedly" actually mean!!!

When everything is framed with "alleged" and "allegedly," you start to realize just how little credibility these US-allied regimes—like Bahrain or Kuwait (and don't even get me started on Jordan)—actually have. I've underlined the key statement here because it's the truth. The vast majority of the population in Bahrain is heavily pro-Iran, no doubt about it, and you can read all about the persecution of the Shiites at this link, so I won't bore you with repeating it:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...n-religion.htm

Those are the facts, and these completely baseless anti-Iran phobias just show how susceptible people are to smooth manipulation and brainwashing 🤣!
Angela Lee Angela Lee Member
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#15 ·
Nancy Wood6 said:You're spot on. Not only are most Bahrainis part of the Shiite Islamic faith, but they're totally oppressed by the Sunni minority in a way that’s even more brutal than what happened in Iraq. But strangely enough, nobody seems to care here, and the Shiite majority—who are the ones being squeezed—aren't exactly playing the "good guys" role like the Iraqis did at the start!

By the way, our friend Marco Andretti—who’s pretty well known for those white supremacist views regarding South Africa and his loud, clear Islamophobia elsewhere—claims he's getting his info from the Kuwait Times. Well, the Kuwait Times is based in Kuwait, a country that’s basically under the thumb of the USA, much like Bahrain is. Even that Kuwait Times report says exactly what Marco Andretti is claiming with total conviction. If Marco Andretti actually understood that phrases like "US-allied island nation over the alleged remarks by an Iranian official last week" or "Ali Akbar Nateq-Nour, an adviser to Iranian Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, allegedly said last week that Sunni-ruled Bahrain, which has a Shiite majority, used to be Iran's 14th governorate and once had a representative in its parliament." , don't actually confirm his claims, he wouldn't even be starting these kinds of threads. Seriously, someone needs to teach Marco Andretti what "alleged" and "allegedly" actually mean!!!

When everything is framed with "alleged" and "allegedly," you start to realize just how little credibility these US-allied regimes—like Bahrain or Kuwait (and don't even get me started on Jordan)—actually have. I've underlined the key statement here because it's the truth. The vast majority of the population in Bahrain is heavily pro-Iran, no doubt about it, and you can read all about the persecution of the Shiites at this link, so I won't bore you with repeating it:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...n-religion.htm

Those are the facts, and these completely baseless anti-Iran phobias just show how susceptible people are to smooth manipulation and brainwashing 🤣!

Let's take a look at the quote provided by our dear forum member, Kevin Sullivan6, regarding those occupation ambitions coming from the official leadership in Tehran;

"It's important to accept The International legitimacy and sovereignty of All countries and refrain fra questioning and harming them," I suppose. Maybe that's just how things ought to work. Sergey Lavrov He offered his thoughts when he was asked about where his country stands regarding those recent claims coming out of Iran. I guess it was a pretty significant moment. Maybe he was being cautious, too. He spoke up about the national position on the situation with Iran.

So, I guess you're saying that even the Russian Federation Foreign Minister, Sergey Lavrov, was stuck in such a miserable situation too? Maybe so. Perhaps.🙄I guess he doesn't even really know what he's arguing against, honestly. Maybe those Iranian politicians never actually said anything like that in the first place.🙄As I’ve mentioned before, maybe it would be best if they just stepped back from this kind of politics altogether—though, I suppose, that is exactly how Iran often uses it. They make these statements that the entire world ends up condemning later, and then they try to play everyone for fools by twisting their own words or simply denying they ever said them in the first place. It’s quite something. On top of dealing with those Iranian officials, we also have these local forum types who deny the Iranian regime's statements in the exact same way, which seems pretty transparent to me, I guess.

P.S. Anyway, Nancy Wood6, don't go trying to act all high and mighty. I guess it's just pretty obvious that this whole "intellectual" persona doesn't really suit you.
Gary Perez9 Gary Perez9 Active Member
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#16 ·
The oppressed people of Bahrain are truly crying out for their freedom🤷☕
Angela Lee Angela Lee Member
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#17 ·
Kevin Sullivan6 said:Hehe, I really think it would be best to start by getting some basic facts straight first.

The population in Bahrain is primarily Shiite.

In Bahrain, political parties are actually prohibited.

If you ask me, the biggest hurdles facing Bahrain aren't coming from their friendly and loyal neighbors in Iran; instead, the real issues are high unemployment—especially among the younger generation—the depletion of oil reserves and groundwater, and the troubling reality that Bahrain serves as a hub for human trafficking involving slavery and sexual exploitation.

It’s such a shame that your favorite relatives won't be able to make any decent money there anymore, so if you happen to find yourselves with extra cash, feel free to send it over to the Jewish community instead.


I’m honestly not quite sure how Bahrain's internal affairs relate to Iran's expansionist ambitions, but before you start throwing around your "facts," it might be a good idea to make sure they’re actually true. The people living in Bahrain aren't just Shiite; they are both Sunni and Shiite. I guess it’s impossible to say for certain exactly how many Shiites versus Sunnis there are, but some estimates suggest the split is roughly 60% Shiite and 40% Sunni. King of Bahrain, Sheikh Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa, has actually introduced quite a few much-needed democratic changes to the country. He allowed women to vote in elections, enabled voting for parliament, and even released political dissidents. His father, Isa bin Salman Al Khalifah, was the one who had to deal with the struggle against Islamist groups who tried to stir up a rebellion in Bahrain back in the mid-nineties because of the increasing rights being granted to women. Even the UN has pointed to Bahrain multiple times as a shining example of democracy and freedom in the Middle East—you could probably check the UN website yourself if you wanted to verify that. Political parties aren't banned in Bahrain either; there are actually 12 different political parties operating there. As for unemployment, the latest data from October 2008 put it at around 3.6%. So, I'm really not sure what kind of unemployment you're talking about? And as for the depletion of oil reserves? I think you might be mistaken there. Bahrain has more than enough oil for its size. If Bahrain is running out of oil, then I suppose I have no idea what other oil-rich nations are doing with theirs.🙄Bahrain also has massive reserves of gas and aluminum, though the government there is working incredibly hard to make sure their economy doesn't rely too much on natural resources. I guess they are being quite proactive about that. As for the depletion of groundwater, that seems like a bit of a silly concern to me. Actually, Bahrain is a total pioneer when it comes to building those large-scale desalination systems along their coasts. So, I suppose Bahrain won't have any water issues now or in the future, despite what you might be implying. At the end of the day, Bahrain is just this small, modern Kingdom that stands out as a leader in political freedoms and human rights within the Middle East. Honestly, many nations could probably learn a thing or two from them—including Iran, which seems to find Bahrain's success and prosperity quite irritating, if you ask me. If only all Arab states were on the same level as Bahrain, Kuwait, or Jordan, things would look completely different than they do today. Maybe then.
Kenneth Jackson30 Kenneth Jackson30 Member
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#18 ·
Angela Lee said:Shadow really tore your argument apart and debunked it😁. Or, as Shadow puts it, first you have these Iranians making threats, and then after the world reacts with bitterness, they pivot to that classic retreat policy: "Oh, we didn't mean it like that." Honestly, I think only irrational people would argue that Iranians should be allowed to have nuclear weapons; this news is just a fresh example of why Iran can never be permitted to possess them.

So, why is Israel allowed to have nuclear weapons?☕
boldgardener93 boldgardener93 Active Member
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#19 ·
It’s honestly pretty touching how much the folks over at this forum care about a distant, friendly neighbor like Bahrain.
🙂
Nancy Wood6 Nancy Wood6 Active Member
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#20 ·
boldgardener93 said:It’s honestly pretty touching how much the folks over at this forum care about a distant, friendly neighbor like Bahrain.
🙂

... seriously, and when you factor in that there isn't so-called democracy there—and Americans aren't even trying to set it up—plus the fact that the rulers come from a minority religious group, isn't it pretty obvious... I mean, why are Marco Andretti and his crowd worrying about these "alleged" Iranian claims🤣

Looks like our fine forum users are acting as protectors of the weak—specifically the Sunnis in Bahrain—yet if you look back, they were the exact same people defending the oppressed Shiite majority in Iraq. Hmm, what does that tell us? Tells me the media tells them exactly who and when to defend, so they can play the part of being all polite, smart... and tough 😂

I actually had a chance to debate the same group about Saudi Arabia, where the Shiites are a minority living right around the Gulf, and man, you should have seen those same users (the ones protecting the autocratic Sunni ruling house in Bahrain) absolutely losing their minds to defend those poor Shiites, just to prove how evil Saudi Sunni Wahhabism is 😁

Poor guys don't realize that even Qatar is Wahhabist, and besides, its ruling house is to America what a pair of underwear is to a butt 🙂

They don't get that it doesn't matter who anyone is there—they're all just trash, like these local feudal-despotic ruling houses that try to grab a democratic reputation through some quasi-democratic institutions—you know, make-believe parliaments, pseudo-governments, and stuff—but they have zero connection to the reality lived by the people. Didn't these forum users curse the sheiks and emirs of Oman, Qatar, and Bahrain once because they're out here using gold-plated toilets? And yet, look at us now—suddenly caring about Bahrain is a top priority.

By the way, why not just establish actual democracy in your precious Bahrain, instead of having the ruling house remain purely symbolic? Like the royal houses in Europe, for example? Why not advocate for actual majority rule? Maybe even set up a parliament similar to Lebanon's, where both Sunnis and Shiites get 50% of the seats so nobody gets outvoted? Why not push for that in Bahrain? But noooo, what matters is that you got a chance to demonize Iran based on some official's comment in an unofficial chat that "allegedly" said what it allegedly said. If what he said is true, then let's give the Bahrainis a referendum and see who they actually side with ☕.

Before posting these kinds of threads and comments, a lot of people ought to ask themselves: am I actually brainwashed 😁? Just admit it to yourselves, it'll be easier 🤣

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