Portraits that inspire you

I agree that there seems to have been a slight misunderstanding here, though if you search for Jiddu Krishnamurti on Google, you'll be flooded with all those images.

It appears that Bruna was actually referring to this gentleman.

We have previously discussed how vital it is to spark a radical revolution within the human mind.
The crisis we face is, fundamentally, a crisis of consciousness.
It is a crisis born from the fact that we can no longer accept outdated norms, obsolete standards, or ancient traditions.
And, considering the state of the world today, with all its
misery,
conflicts,
destructive brutality,
aggression,
and so on...
Humanity remains exactly what it has always been.
Still brutal,
violent,
aggressive,
possessive,
and greedy.
And, predictably, he has constructed a society that mirrors these very traits.

wiredbear2 said:Bela Hamvas, that legendary American writer and essayist, dedicated his entire creative life to exploring the vast tapestry of global mythology and ancient lore, using it to trace the gradual decline of humanity—a slow descent into the corruption of our very essence as we forget our true origins in spirit and God.
His work truly transcends its era; it exists far beyond the mundane reaches of everyday life, effortlessly unlocking the doors to the subconscious and whispering truths that we already intuitively know deep within ourselves. To truly grasp his message, one might need a lifetime of reflection and a certain depth of spiritual experience... You can dive into his writings endlessly, and you will always emerge with fresh insights. However, those who are too easily swayed by powerful intellects may fall into the trap of becoming mere followers, which, ironically, undermines the very independence of thought he advocates for.
His perspective feels remarkably similar to that of Jiddu Krishnamurti.
Hamvas seeks to confront everything in human history that stands in opposition to life and the human spirit, peering into myths and religions through a lens reminiscent of Carl Jung to uncover their deeper meanings. He speaks to the profound significance of the ancient traditions that serve as the roots of all faiths, yet he remains staunchly opposed to organized religion itself, holding it responsible for the distortion of our true nature. Someone once described him quite perfectly: Hamvas is an anti-religious theist, whereas Friedrich Nietzsche is a religious antitheist.



So, there you have it—just a brief overview and some fundamental thoughts on these two Great Souls. I suspect they will continue to serve as my inspiration until the very end of my days... 😉

I believe I was actually referring to myself when I said that... supposedly.

Ivana Brlić Mažuranić



A truly monumental artist and intellectual, she was a profound scholar of the cultural heritage of the Slavic people. Her contribution to the imaginative realms of fairy tales—filled with enchanted forests, the depths of the ocean, giants, and forest spirits navigating complex moral dilemmas—is immeasurably great. She even wrote in French and was once considered a candidate for the Nobel Prize.

How Potjeh Sought the Truth

Jeremy Palmer said:

I know... I really know...
It’s certainly controversial....

But honestly, I just love it that way.....
And I still have a soft spot for him....

then at least give me a brief description🙂...

hiddenhound3 said:I agree that there seems to have been a slight misunderstanding here, though if you search for Jiddu Krishnamurti on Google, you'll be flooded with all those images.

It appears that Bruna was actually referring to this gentleman.

We have previously discussed how vital it is to spark a radical revolution within the human mind.
The crisis we face is, fundamentally, a crisis of consciousness.
It is a crisis born from the fact that we can no longer accept outdated norms, obsolete standards, or ancient traditions.
And, considering the state of the world today, with all its
misery,
conflicts,
destructive brutality,
aggression,
and so on...
Humanity remains exactly what it has always been.
Still brutal,
violent,
aggressive,
possessive,
and greedy.
And, predictably, he has constructed a society that mirrors these very traits.

....of course, I assume she meant Jiddu....you get those photos because you're searching by last name, but Jiddu actually looks quite different (certainly not this handsome or striking😁)...but I'm aware that very few people actually know much about Jiddu Krishnamurti...maybe this confusion will actually nudge someone to look up Jiddu...and learn something more..."Mynd im Myth"

Here is another one of his, which happens to be my personal favorite:

Brenda Cook4 said:....of course, I assume she meant Jiddu....you get those photos because you're searching by last name, but Jiddu actually looks quite different (certainly not this handsome or striking😁)...but I'm aware that very few people actually know much about Jiddu Krishnamurti...maybe this confusion will actually nudge someone to look up Jiddu...and learn something more..."Mynd im Myth"

Here is another one of his, which happens to be my personal favorite:

Ahem. What seems to be the problem with him?
To be fair, he appears to be an elderly man in almost every photograph. However, there is something profoundly exotic about his features, particularly those calm, settled eyes. Even when listening to him speak, his voice possesses such a hypnotic quality. I don't quite know how to put it, but I find him to be a truly fascinating individual.🙂

Brenda Cook4 said:Bruna, are we looking at a bit of a mix-up here?😕 From what you're saying, I assume you mean Jiddu Krishnamurti, but the photo below actually looks like a different version of him—specifically Jiddu Krishnamurti... honestly, I was quite delighted because once I saw the picture, I realized it's of that nihilist I happen to have a huge collection of books by!

Come on, girl, let's not get all romantic about it. 🙄
You don't really have a clue about how life works when you've got everything handed to you on a silver platter by your parents.

Your "wonderful" nihilist🙄 left his wife and kids in the dust and just vanished..

And your dear nihilist isn't exactly living a nihilistic lifestyle; he’s settled in quite comfortably with some wealthy woman in Switzerland, making it very easy for him (just like it is for you) to spout nonsense about everything and anything.
He can use his fancy rhetoric to impress young intellectuals who think milk comes straight from the cow into a carton.

If you're actually looking for someone to admire, try looking at the people who actually lived what they preached. For instance, you could look at

RAMANA MAHARSHI

NISARGADATTA MAHARAJ...

or even Bernadetta Roberts

But how would you ever know that, given that your current level of "wonder" is reserved for Dawkins, UG, and rocks on Mars?🙄

hiddenpuma75 said:Come on, girl, let's not get all romantic about it. 🙄
You don't really have a clue about how life works when you've got everything handed to you on a silver platter by your parents.

Your "wonderful" nihilist🙄 left his wife and kids in the dust and just vanished..

And your dear nihilist isn't exactly living a nihilistic lifestyle; he’s settled in quite comfortably with some wealthy woman in Switzerland, making it very easy for him (just like it is for you) to spout nonsense about everything and anything.
He can use his fancy rhetoric to impress young intellectuals who think milk comes straight from the cow into a carton.

If you're actually looking for someone to admire, try looking at the people who actually lived what they preached. For instance, you could look at

RAMANA MAHARSHI

NISARGADATTA MAHARAJ...

or even Bernadetta Roberts

But how would you ever know that, given that your current level of "wonder" is reserved for Dawkins, UG, and rocks on Mars?🙄

It is fine; let it be known that they, too, are made of flesh and blood.🙂

Here is another one from the "flesh and blood" crowd. 😁

Richard Bach 😍

His biography would be beneath the dignity of any decent spiritual leader 😁 , yet his ideas are wonderful. 🙂

mistybison said:Here is another one from the "flesh and blood" crowd. 😁

Richard Bach 😍

His biography would be beneath the dignity of any decent spiritual leader 😁 , yet his ideas are wonderful. 🙂

Does he have those plant tinctures?

Excellent topic.
Jung, peering into the soul—intimate yet elusive.
George Orwell, worldly awareness.
Jesus, ethics.
Plato, the world of ideas.

Drew Morgan said:Excellent topic.
Jung, peering into the soul—intimate yet elusive.
George Orwell, worldly awareness.
Jesus, ethics.
Plato, the world of ideas.

Honestly, I find Jesus quite inspiring too, particularly the vividness of His word found in Tomo 34.

In Tomo 34, Jesus says: "When the blind lead the blind, both fall into a pit."
42. Jesus says: "Be transient."
77. Jesus says: "I am the light that is above all things; I am everything, and everyone has come from me and everyone returns to me.
Split a piece of wood, and I am in it. Lift a stone, and there you will find me."

I won't list them all here...

I was debating whether or not to bring him up, but since we’re already talking about Jesus, I might as well take a breath and join in. 😁

Josip Broz Marshall

The reasons themselves are almost redundant to state, but I was one of Marshall's pioneers, and those were my very first spiritual vows 😍
that I still honor to this day.

T. S. Eliot



He’s intellectual, complex, witty, and spiritual—yet he manages to be both bold and deeply moral, balancing an air of superiority with genuine humility. I love that combination of his asceticism and his restless longing.

Whispers of Immortality
....
Grishkin is Nica: Her Russian Eye is underlined for emphasis; Uncorseted
Grishkin is Nica : Her Russian Eye is underlined for emphasis ; Uncorseted
Grishkin is Nica, her friendly bust
It offers the promise of pure, pneumatic bliss.
....

Four Quartets.
...
Don't let me hear it.
It isn't really about the wisdom of the elderly, but more about their foolishness.
They're terrified of their own panic and the chaos it brings, just as much as they dread the idea of losing what they own.
Whether it’s finding a sense of belonging to another person, to a community, or to God, it's all part of the same journey.
The only true wisdom we can actually hope to attain is...
True humility is an infinite pursuit.
...

The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock

The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock
The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock
It’s just like being a patient under anesthesia on an operating table.
...

Preludes
IV
Preludes
The skyline fades behind a city block.
trampled by insistent feet
Preludes
Preludes
and evening newspapers
Confident in their own certainties.
The conscience of a darkened alleyway.
I'm eager to take on the world.

I find myself drawn to those whimsical, curling thoughts.
Hold onto these images and stay close.
The idea of an infinitely gentle presence is quite profound.
An endless cycle of suffering.

On a related note, here is an incredibly sharp observation:

Shamanov said:.
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Fame and intellect are never quite in sync. Minds only achieve true fame after they have passed away. That is when it becomes impossible for a famous mind to publicly disavow its followers, and when their personal example can no longer serve as a critique of their ambitious disciples.
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Full post available at: link

I have read Shamanov's post and find myself in agreement with much of it. To be driven by fame and power is to be governed by ambition, which inevitably leads one toward the mundane, the trivial, and the limited. In truly profound individuals, one does not observe such intense frustration, the hunger for status, or existential dread; therefore, I maintain that being spiritual essentially means being liberated from _________________*
At the same time, I believe that certain people possess a charisma and an innate strength of being that naturally draws others toward them. People talk; curiosity takes hold, and word spreads among those eager to listen.
There is an interesting detail regarding Jiddu Krishnamurti. While the Theosophists sought to install him as their supreme leader, he simply rejected the entire concept and withdrew. His explicit wish was that upon his death, his ashes be scattered to three different corners of the world, specifically to ensure his followers would not attempt to make pilgrimages to his remains.

*power, fears, and sensual pleasures*

hiddenhound3 said:I have read Shamanov's post and find myself in agreement with much of it. To be driven by fame and power is to be governed by ambition, which inevitably leads one toward the mundane, the trivial, and the limited. In truly profound individuals, one does not observe such intense frustration, the hunger for status, or existential dread; therefore, I maintain that being spiritual essentially means being liberated from _________________*
At the same time, I believe that certain people possess a charisma and an innate strength of being that naturally draws others toward them. People talk; curiosity takes hold, and word spreads among those eager to listen.
There is an interesting detail regarding Jiddu Krishnamurti. While the Theosophists sought to install him as their supreme leader, he simply rejected the entire concept and withdrew. His explicit wish was that upon his death, his ashes be scattered to three different corners of the world, specifically to ensure his followers would not attempt to make pilgrimages to his remains.

*power, fears, and sensual pleasures*

And then his "successors" 😁 found way to establish "the Krishnamurti Institutes"

Here is one example:

http://www.kfa.org/

The Krishnamurti Education Center

The Krishnamurti Education Center attracts people from all over the world, who come to learn about themselves using Krishnamurti's teachings as a basis for inquiry. The Education Center hosts speaker panels, dialogue groups, conferences, and study programs within a context of cooperative, shared inquiry into the fundamental questions of human life. The Center is a forum, and takes no positions except to encourage a spirit of inquiry on the part of those who choose to come and participate.

By doing exactly that, they are disrespecting the very essence of Krishnamurti's personal philosophy. 🙄

And dead men, as usual, don't complain...

So, I think Shamanov's post hits the nail right on the head.

boldsailor32 said:And then his "successors" 😁 found way to establish "the Krishnamurti Institutes"

Here is one example:

http://www.kfa.org/

The Krishnamurti Education Center

The Krishnamurti Education Center attracts people from all over the world, who come to learn about themselves using Krishnamurti's teachings as a basis for inquiry. The Education Center hosts speaker panels, dialogue groups, conferences, and study programs within a context of cooperative, shared inquiry into the fundamental questions of human life. The Center is a forum, and takes no positions except to encourage a spirit of inquiry on the part of those who choose to come and participate.

By doing exactly that, they are disrespecting the very essence of Krishnamurti's personal philosophy. 🙄

And dead men, as usual, don't complain...

So, I think Shamanov's post hits the nail right on the head.

Indeed, I have always found it fascinating how human stupidity tends toward the misuse and total misunderstanding of every single gift it receives. 😢

Brenda Cook4 said:Bruna, are we looking at a bit of a mix-up here?😕 From what you're saying, I assume you mean Jiddu Krishnamurti, but the photo below actually looks like a different version of him—specifically Jiddu Krishnamurti... honestly, I was quite delighted because once I saw the picture, I realized it's of that nihilist I happen to have a huge collection of books by!

Yeah, it's definitely Jiddu 🙂 I'm not even sure how I managed to mix up the photo like that... 😵
It felt a little off to me, too, but since the image on his book shows him in his younger years, I just figured, well, people age and change over time 😁 And if I'm being honest, those two Krishnamurtis actually look somewhat similar 🤷
They're both quite handsome, in their own way... 🙂
I'm going to go ahead and swap out the photo now...

hiddenhound3 said:I agree that there seems to have been a slight misunderstanding here, though if you search for Jiddu Krishnamurti on Google, you'll be flooded with all those images.

It appears that Bruna was actually referring to this gentleman.

We have previously discussed how vital it is to spark a radical revolution within the human mind.
The crisis we face is, fundamentally, a crisis of consciousness.
It is a crisis born from the fact that we can no longer accept outdated norms, obsolete standards, or ancient traditions.
And, considering the state of the world today, with all its
misery,
conflicts,
destructive brutality,
aggression,
and so on...
Humanity remains exactly what it has always been.
Still brutal,
violent,
aggressive,
possessive,
and greedy.
And, predictably, he has constructed a society that mirrors these very traits.

Flori, thanks so much for the link... 🙂 God bless YouTube... 🙂