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Bernie Madoff: The end of Jewish wealth in the USA or just another conspiracy theory?

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Participants vividheron2Michael Murphy8rustyfalcon38Angela LeeDonna Thompson2Maria BoothAaron Hernandez7vividrider3Zachary Watson50granitemarlin4goldenpilot15Grace Harris39silenteagle11graniteowl88Keith ThompsonLinda Howard4restlessstag14Gregory Howard
vividheron2 vividheron2 MemberOP
23 messages
joined Jul 2009
#1 ·
So, $50 billion supposedly just 'vanished'? They’re claiming hundreds of Jewish organizations and individuals were wiped out financially.

'Hitler destroyed us physically... Madoff destroyed us financially...' 'The Zionist conspiracy'... you see headlines like that everywhere lately.

I'm posting this pretty controversial piece that seems to touch on the latest Jewish 'conspiracy' theory... I guess it's hard to tell what the actual truth is.

Bernie Madoff stealing from the Jews—now that is a massive no-no!

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.c...6666e5db3657b9
Michael Murphy8 Michael Murphy8 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2009
#2 ·
vividheron2 said:So, $50 billion supposedly just 'vanished'? They’re claiming hundreds of Jewish organizations and individuals were wiped out financially.

'Hitler destroyed us physically... Madoff destroyed us financially...' 'The Zionist conspiracy'... you see headlines like that everywhere lately.

I'm posting this pretty controversial piece that seems to touch on the latest Jewish 'conspiracy' theory... I guess it's hard to tell what the actual truth is.

Bernie Madoff stealing from the Jews—now that is a massive no-no!

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.c...6666e5db3657b9

It feels like more and more of these conspiracies and deceptions are just bubbling up to the surface...
rustyfalcon38 rustyfalcon38 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2009
#3 ·
🤣 Honestly, it’s just exhausting how everyone seems to harbor such resentment toward Jews simply because they are capable—effectively holding together the USA and the West. I was reading this line earlier that really stuck out to me: "That is exactly what the Talmud teaches, make no mistake about it. It is the main reason that Jews have been despised and expelled from so many nations throughout history."
By the way, if you were to read just one page of the Talmud every single day, it would take you seven years to finish the whole thing—it’s an massive collection of texts, much like a multi-volume Encyclopedia Britannica. It feels like just another layer of those tired political smears—blaming others while everything is being pilfered behind closed doors.
Michael Murphy8 Michael Murphy8 Newcomer
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#4 ·
rustyfalcon38 said:🤣 Honestly, it’s just exhausting how everyone seems to harbor such resentment toward Jews simply because they are capable—effectively holding together the USA and the West. I was reading this line earlier that really stuck out to me: "That is exactly what the Talmud teaches, make no mistake about it. It is the main reason that Jews have been despised and expelled from so many nations throughout history."
By the way, if you were to read just one page of the Talmud every single day, it would take you seven years to finish the whole thing—it’s an massive collection of texts, much like a multi-volume Encyclopedia Britannica. It feels like just another layer of those tired political smears—blaming others while everything is being pilfered behind closed doors.

You say everyone hates them, but I think the real reason people lash out is because they feel like they have a hand in everything—not because they're actually more capable like you're saying, but because they lack any sense of faith or morality. They've always been known as a warrior nation that views itself as superior to everyone else; honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if they eventually declared war on Christianity too...
Michael Murphy8 Michael Murphy8 Newcomer
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#5 ·
Check this out—I stumbled upon this wild headline on Google called "strange fantasy." Honestly, the title pretty much says it all, but there's a really fascinating topic buried in there that’s backed up by actual evidence and facts... It's definitely worth a look regardless, so dive in...
rustyfalcon38 rustyfalcon38 Newcomer
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#6 ·
And how exactly would you go about measuring someone's level of faith? You can't just weigh it out at a farmers market or put it on a scale, can you? Historically speaking, Christians were the first to target Jews, followed by Arabs—they've been a constant fixture in the rhetoric of several Popes, not to mention their portrayal in the Quran. Then you have those Protocols—which, let’s be honest, were essentially churned out by the communist NKVD and distributed across the Eastern Bloc to see who would bite—and suddenly everyone is rushing to join the fray. Propaganda is far more lethal than any actual weapon; its effects linger much longer. The issue isn't them as a nation, but rather the double standard: if a Jew steals from another, it's framed as some grand global conspiracy, yet if an American steals from another American, we just shrug it off as business as usual. That's pretty much how we think, isn't it? 🤣
Angela Lee Angela Lee Member
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joined Sep 2014
#7 ·
Michael Murphy8 said:You say everyone hates them, but I think the real reason people lash out is because they feel like they have a hand in everything—not because they're actually more capable like you're saying, but because they lack any sense of faith or morality. They've always been known as a warrior nation that views itself as superior to everyone else; honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if they eventually declared war on Christianity too...

Before Christians ever declare war on you, Muslims will strike first—just mark my words. I’ve already mentioned that this jihadist warfare style you guys use on forums doesn't do anyone any favors. It’s a painful truth, but animosity toward Muslims in Europe is steadily climbing, and honestly, it’s fueled by posts just like these on European forums, by the arson attacks happening across France, and by all those protests throughout Europe regarding your prophet where people held up signs making all sorts of threats against Christians. You might be doing yourselves a massive disservice; I guess you're just digging your own graves. That is the unfortunate reality. This whole jihadist approach of yours only serves to highlight how much hatred you carry as a religious collective toward others, and I suppose that includes Christians whom you seem so intent on forcing to become Muslim. There is an old saying that what a radical Muslim does, the moderate thinks. You are quite the perfect example of that being true.
rustyfalcon38 rustyfalcon38 Newcomer
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#8 ·
Angela Lee said:Before Christians ever declare war on you, Muslims will strike first—just mark my words. I’ve already mentioned that this jihadist warfare style you guys use on forums doesn't do anyone any favors. It’s a painful truth, but animosity toward Muslims in Europe is steadily climbing, and honestly, it’s fueled by posts just like these on European forums, by the arson attacks happening across France, and by all those protests throughout Europe regarding your prophet where people held up signs making all sorts of threats against Christians. You might be doing yourselves a massive disservice; I guess you're just digging your own graves. That is the unfortunate reality. This whole jihadist approach of yours only serves to highlight how much hatred you carry as a religious collective toward others, and I suppose that includes Christians whom you seem so intent on forcing to become Muslim. There is an old saying that what a radical Muslim does, the moderate thinks. You are quite the perfect example of that being true.

Perhaps the issue isn't even about faith itself, but rather the fact that this online jihadist corps is ready to march off to Israel to kill, while back home they occupy 49% of their territory—yet here they are, wishing people a Merry Christmas on a forum after celebrating those who slaughtered 8,000 people in a single day. One really ought to have some sense of direction and priority, shouldn't one?😁.
Donna Thompson2 Donna Thompson2 Member
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joined Jan 2008
#9 ·
Why is it that the USA and the EU go to such extreme lengths to prop up Israel? In my view—and I say this with total sincerity—it isn’t just about some supposed "powerful lobby." It feels more like an ongoing attempt at atonement for the Holocaust. As long as Europe maintains its current status as a liberal democracy, there will be this continuous flow of support toward Jews.
Maria Booth Maria Booth Active Member
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joined Sep 2014
#10 ·
If all those theories about Zionist conspiracies were actually true, then Madoff wouldn't be getting much sympathy, right? I mean, he basically cleaned out some of the most powerful Jewish and Zionist organizations in the USA, not to mention the life savings of tons of Jews from New York and Florida who lost everything overnight. You had actual billionaires going broke in a heartbeat! People only trusted him because he was a Jew himself.
Aaron Hernandez7 Aaron Hernandez7 Newcomer
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#11 ·
I’m reading through these posts and I can't help but laugh. Do you honestly believe that Jews just run the USA? Or that they’re pulling all the strings in Russia? Just look at the Russian gas negotiator... Alexander Miller. Yeah, right. As if he were some German.
vividrider3 vividrider3 Member
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joined Jun 2008
#12 ·
Aaron Hernandez7 said:I’m reading through these posts and I can't help but laugh. Do you honestly believe that Jews just run the USA? Or that they’re pulling all the strings in Russia? Just look at the Russian gas negotiator... Alexander Miller. Yeah, right. As if he were some German.

Do you actually have better data? If so, be a decent person and share it with us.

P.S. Stop shouting on the forum.
Zachary Watson50 Zachary Watson50 Member
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joined Oct 2007
#13 ·
Aaron Hernandez7 said:I’m reading through these posts and I can't help but laugh. Do you honestly believe that Jews just run the USA? Or that they’re pulling all the strings in Russia? Just look at the Russian gas negotiator... Alexander Miller. Yeah, right. As if he were some German.

Jews everywhere. 🙄

Alexey Miller is a Russian Swabian 👍
rustyfalcon38 rustyfalcon38 Newcomer
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#14 ·
Honestly, if we had actually let a Jew manage our corporations and the privatization process instead of people like Kutle and his crew, things would have turned out significantly better across the board—just look at what happened with Rohatinski and the Federal Reserve 👍.
Michael Murphy8 Michael Murphy8 Newcomer
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#15 ·
Angela Lee said:Before Christians ever declare war on you, Muslims will strike first—just mark my words. I’ve already mentioned that this jihadist warfare style you guys use on forums doesn't do anyone any favors. It’s a painful truth, but animosity toward Muslims in Europe is steadily climbing, and honestly, it’s fueled by posts just like these on European forums, by the arson attacks happening across France, and by all those protests throughout Europe regarding your prophet where people held up signs making all sorts of threats against Christians. You might be doing yourselves a massive disservice; I guess you're just digging your own graves. That is the unfortunate reality. This whole jihadist approach of yours only serves to highlight how much hatred you carry as a religious collective toward others, and I suppose that includes Christians whom you seem so intent on forcing to become Muslim. There is an old saying that what a radical Muslim does, the moderate thinks. You are quite the perfect example of that being true.

If you look back at my previous posts, it should be pretty obvious how much I stand against Hamas and their terror, or any other kind of terrorism involving people hiding behind religion. I couldn't care less about jihad or any of that nonsense, and I certainly have no interest in trying to change anyone's faith. I respect what other people believe, which is why I think what you wrote is seriously out of line and just plain wrong...
granitemarlin4 granitemarlin4 Member
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joined Nov 2008
#16 ·
So, am I supposed to be bashing or sympathizing with Jews on this thread??
goldenpilot15 goldenpilot15 Member
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joined Aug 2012
#17 ·
I’m flagging this thread for the moderators and officially requesting that it be locked. Honestly, the sheer amount of antisemitism and pure hatred being spewed here is just unacceptable.
Angela Lee Angela Lee Member
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joined Sep 2014
#18 ·
Michael Murphy8 said:If you look back at my previous posts, it should be pretty obvious how much I stand against Hamas and their terror, or any other kind of terrorism involving people hiding behind religion. I couldn't care less about jihad or any of that nonsense, and I certainly have no interest in trying to change anyone's faith. I respect what other people believe, which is why I think what you wrote is seriously out of line and just plain wrong...

It doesn't really matter whether you're against Hamas or not. I responded to your post because you basically painted an entire nation as bloodthirsty warriors, and more importantly, you're making these unacceptable insinuations that the Jewish people view themselves as superior to everyone else. I wonder, how many walls have you actually encountered in your life to judge things this way, or are you just falling for cheap propaganda?
Grace Harris39 Grace Harris39 Newcomer
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#19 ·
Angela Lee said:It doesn't really matter whether you're against Hamas or not. I responded to your post because you basically painted an entire nation as bloodthirsty warriors, and more importantly, you're making these unacceptable insinuations that the Jewish people view themselves as superior to everyone else. I wonder, how many walls have you actually encountered in your life to judge things this way, or are you just falling for cheap propaganda?

Honestly, I couldn't help myself. I just saw your post on that other thread where you were literally talking about the "genocidal nature of Russians."
So, I figured I’d use your own logic against you: you call one whole nation genocidal, but the second someone writes something about the Jew, you start sounding the alarm. Don't get mad at me, but I guess you're pretty much the textbook definition of a hypocrite.
And seriously, how many Russians have you actually met in your life that you're swallowing this cheap propaganda so easily?
silenteagle11 silenteagle11 Member
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joined Feb 2008
#20 ·
rustyfalcon38 said:Perhaps the issue isn't even about faith itself, but rather the fact that this online jihadist corps is ready to march off to Israel to kill, while back home they occupy 49% of their territory—yet here they are, wishing people a Merry Christmas on a forum after celebrating those who slaughtered 8,000 people in a single day. One really ought to have some sense of direction and priority, shouldn't one?😁.

😂🤣

Our local forum Islamists aren't going anywhere. They aren't actual mujahideen. They just egg others on to go die for them.

Speaking of the "end of Jewish wealth," a rare thing happened in Germany just five days ago:

Adolf Merckle, the 4th richest man in Germany,

http://www.zeit.de/2007/35/Karte-Reichste-Deutschen

with a net worth of roughly 12.5 billion Euro, committed suicide after losing about 2 billion Euro in stocks:

http://www.whoswho.de/templ/te_bio.php?PID=2576&RID=1

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Merckle

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