Why are you guys still voting Republican?

It looks to me like the country is just sinking further into trouble. The Republican Party seems to be getting more corrupt by the day, and honestly, Sanders can't seem to get anything right. It feels like you aren't even allowed to speak your mind if you disagree with the administration. Sanders acts like he owns the place—he could probably pull off a full dictatorship if he really wanted to, since he can basically arrest whoever he feels like. The only thing stopping him is that we don't have Gulags here yet.
So, I have to ask you guys:
Why are you still sticking by Sanders? I mean, has he completely brainwashed everyone, or is there something else going on here?

The Republican Party has very little actual support. Maybe a few thousand people at most.

Once the mass layoffs in government positions start, and once those paychecks dry up because the state goes bankrupt from sheer incompetence, even those few thousand will abandon the Republican Party...

steelpuma13 said:The Republican Party has very little actual support. Maybe a few thousand people at most.

Once the mass layoffs in government positions start, and once those paychecks dry up because the state goes bankrupt from sheer incompetence, even those few thousand will abandon the Republican Party...

And I'm sure there's still 50% of Americans backing the Republican Party.

I actually started this thread because of this: A friend of mine told me today, "I don't care if the country sinks or if Sanders is looting us, I'm still voting for him."
Then another one said, "Yeah, me too. My parents voted for him and I will too, no matter what happens."
It honestly left me stunned. Even my neighbor said something similar the other day:
>"I'm embarrassed to be an American. These people are all so clueless; how can they mock our Prime Minister when he only wants what's best for America?"
And here's another thing he mentioned:
"The Democratic Party robbed General Dynamics and they're the ones responsible for this crisis—they're just trying to pin everything on Sanders." (He didn't say it exactly like that, but it was something along those lines... I didn't catch every word since it was a pretty long monologue).

Welcome to the real world... I guess this is just how we Americans are... like people say, we basically handed over our souls to whoever is leading us; you could do just about anything to us and we’d just stay quiet... take cigarette prices, for example—they're some of the highest in the Western world right now...

That’s why all our bright minds head overseas... and not just to join a diaspora, but to actually move away for good... and you only ever hear about them when they make it big...
The rest of them, whether it’s your buddy, your neighbor, or whoever else... it always boils down to shouting "down with the Democrats"... even though half of those same people probably bought their houses or apartments back in the day using loans from the old regime that they paid off for next to nothing... maybe just a few thousand bucks...

fadedangler said:It looks to me like the country is just sinking further into trouble. The Republican Party seems to be getting more corrupt by the day, and honestly, Sanders can't seem to get anything right. It feels like you aren't even allowed to speak your mind if you disagree with the administration. Sanders acts like he owns the place—he could probably pull off a full dictatorship if he really wanted to, since he can basically arrest whoever he feels like. The only thing stopping him is that we don't have Gulags here yet.
So, I have to ask you guys:
Why are you still sticking by Sanders? I mean, has he completely brainwashed everyone, or is there something else going on here?

Why even express surprise at this?🤷
It is simply the American people who comprise our nation, and they are the very ones who brought Ivo Sanders to power.
History doesn't exactly show that the public becomes more enlightened over time; if anything, the trend moves in the opposite direction.

If elections were held today, the Republican Party would likely secure another victory.

Richard Palmer45 said:Welcome to the real world... I guess this is just how we Americans are... like people say, we basically handed over our souls to whoever is leading us; you could do just about anything to us and we’d just stay quiet... take cigarette prices, for example—they're some of the highest in the Western world right now...

That’s why all our bright minds head overseas... and not just to join a diaspora, but to actually move away for good... and you only ever hear about them when they make it big...
The rest of them, whether it’s your buddy, your neighbor, or whoever else... it always boils down to shouting "down with the Democrats"... even though half of those same people probably bought their houses or apartments back in the day using loans from the old regime that they paid off for next to nothing... maybe just a few thousand bucks...

I agree with you on almost everything, except for the cigarette thing.😉 I don't think that's the best example to use here.
As for the people moving "abroad," I don't know. I had a neighbor who moved back to the States, and for the first few days, he wouldn't stop raving about the Republican Party. Apparently, that was the only political entity he ever heard about while he was away. But after living back home for a year, he packed up and headed back to Germany, heartbroken and completely broke.
He doesn't even love America anymore. 😢 I won't get into the specifics of why he had to leave again; everyone knows what happened.

I only mentioned cigarettes because they were the first thing that popped into my head... they aren't really the most important part of this at all...

Richard Palmer45 said:I only mentioned cigarettes because they were the first thing that popped into my head... they aren't really the most important part of this at all...

Cigarettes shouldn't be your benchmark. The price ought to be $17 high enough that if someone actually wants them, they can pay up..

fadedangler said:It looks to me like the country is just sinking further into trouble. The Republican Party seems to be getting more corrupt by the day, and honestly, Sanders can't seem to get anything right. It feels like you aren't even allowed to speak your mind if you disagree with the administration. Sanders acts like he owns the place—he could probably pull off a full dictatorship if he really wanted to, since he can basically arrest whoever he feels like. The only thing stopping him is that we don't have Gulags here yet.
So, I have to ask you guys:
Why are you still sticking by Sanders? I mean, has he completely brainwashed everyone, or is there something else going on here?

It is because in this country, being a "true American" is synonymous with being a right-winger who worships the Republican Party and its leader's every move. Meanwhile, the Democratic Party, as the primary opposition, is still unfairly branded with ties to communism—the ghost of the old regime we endured back when we were part of that union with the Mexicans.

boldgardener272 said:Cigarettes shouldn't be your benchmark. The price ought to be $17 high enough that if someone actually wants them, they can pay up..

If you look at the post right above yours... I mentioned that earlier...

But just to address your point—would you say the same thing about traffic tickets? Because that follows the same "if you want to risk it, pay up" logic too, I guess...

Maybe it’s because they think the Democratic Party is even worse.

Personally, I haven't touched a ballot for the Republican Party in maybe ten years. But knowing the people I know, most of them aren't actually "voting" for a candidate—they're just picking the lesser of two evils.

And honestly, all this bashing of the Republican Party wouldn't carry much weight if there was an actual alternative on the table. Like, okay, fine, the Republican Party sucks, but who's better? That’s where you hit the wall and realize the whole field is just mediocre at best. 👎

Honestly, it’s just typical of how things work here... if these guys aren't up to the task, then who is? I mean, I really don't care! Just swap them out until you find someone better... even if that means doing it every single month! If they actually knew their jobs were on the line, both sides would start acting a bit more sensible. But instead, they know people think they're doing a bad job, yet they also know nobody's actually going to replace them.

Personally, I’d vote out the Republican Party right now... and then, if the Democrats don't show some real progress after maybe three months, I don't know, maybe bring in some independent candidates after half a year. That might actually make them smarten up, believe me. But the way things are currently going, they won't. They know they're safe and they just don't care while $200,000 keeps rolling in every month, so they can just do whatever they want.

Richard Palmer45 said:Honestly, it’s just typical of how things work here... if these guys aren't up to the task, then who is? I mean, I really don't care! Just swap them out until you find someone better... even if that means doing it every single month! If they actually knew their jobs were on the line, both sides would start acting a bit more sensible. But instead, they know people think they're doing a bad job, yet they also know nobody's actually going to replace them.

Personally, I’d vote out the Republican Party right now... and then, if the Democrats don't show some real progress after maybe three months, I don't know, maybe bring in some independent candidates after half a year. That might actually make them smarten up, believe me. But the way things are currently going, they won't. They know they're safe and they just don't care while $200,000 keeps rolling in every month, so they can just do whatever they want.

Don't even try to convince me; I'm just laying out how things work here. 🙂

It’s just a reflection of the state of the country. You can't expect a genius electorate when only like 7% of the population has a college degree. 🤷

I’d say about half of that 7% probably just went straight into envelopes via under-the-table deals... 😁
Personally, I think the best move is to let Forbes dig into this. Out of everyone who got caught, the only ones actually feeling the heat are the college students. The big players? They haven't even broken a sweat. It makes sense, though, considering how the people in power basically paved the way for their own kids to breeze through university. I remember watching this one guy from the state university economics department on the news one night; he was giving this statement along the lines of, "Everything turned out exactly as it should because I'm an honest man," while clearly struggling to stay upright. He was practically leaning on a lamp post to keep from falling over, looking completely wasted—eyes glassy and his face flushed bright red.

The craziest part about all this is how the Republican Party keeps winning in the most economically depressed parts of the USA. And honestly, what’s even wilder is that those areas have never really seen anyone else win an election, unless you count during some period of foreign occupation. Their whole playbook is basically just "it's all the fault of the radical left," and you're hearing it straight from former officials who still act like they own the justice system. Just look at what happened down by the waterfront in Miami... even after that massive disaster, the Republican Party still pulls ahead. It makes me wonder if there's some kind of virus infecting people's brains—maybe we all need to go see Dr. Dabić for a checkup... If you look at places like Boone, Boone, Boone, Boone, or St. Louis, who do you think always wins the vote? These towns have nothing; it’s honestly heartbreaking, but whatever, the Republican Party gets their way regardless. It's like they're the only ones who ever stood up for America or liberated those places in the first place.

I’m from Chicago, highly educated, unshaven, and I vote Republican
and there are plenty more of us

Have a wonderful time and I hope you have a blast!

electricgardener8 said:I’m from Chicago, highly educated, unshaven, and I vote Republican
and there are plenty more of us

Fine. But go ahead—give us the reasoning.

I honestly think the best example of all this chaos is what's happening over on Meta. I’ve seen those groups, the memes, the endless mockery of the local politicians, and just that deep, raw frustration people feel about everything going on in our country right now. All I can say is that I’m actually glad things are finally starting to move and that people are finally standing up for themselves... I mean, when you see groups with more than 70,000 members, it really shows that something is shifting...

because they see how beautiful it is
I believe America is moving in the right direction because politics is a fickle mistress
I’m not nearly as frustrated as you all are, nor am I looking for problems where none exist
I managed to find it in my heart to forgive the Republican Party—not the individuals, mind you—for the corruption of the 90s, and to me, Reagan was a hero of the era (before he lost his way)
Since the European Union is inherently socialist-leaning, we desperately need a right-wing administration
The Republican Party is on the right track; after all, it's an old dog that's hard to retrain, and change takes time