Why are you guys still voting Republican?

Aren't you guys done with the Republican Party yet? It's honestly embarrassing. 😁

But I suppose when it starts bothering the Democrats, we just can't help ourselves.

Honestly, we aren't going to see any real progress as long as we keep splitting ourselves into "patriots" versus "communists"—it’s just endless fighting over old grudges. :roll:
Man, there are just so many uneducated people out there...

hiddensurfer17 said:But I suppose when it starts bothering the Democrats, we just can't help ourselves.

Are we talking Cubans or people from China? 😁

Robin Sanders3 said:Honestly, we aren't going to see any real progress as long as we keep splitting ourselves into "patriots" versus "communists"—it’s just endless fighting over old grudges. :roll:
Man, there are just so many uneducated people out there...

If certain members of the Democratic Party or the Liberal Party didn't cling so desperately to their communist legacy—if they actually embraced the values of the American War of Independence without hesitation—they might actually be in power right now.
But they won't. It seems more important to them to "de-Harmon America." Then they act surprised when "fools and idiots" vote for the Republican Party. They love to claim that people living in the Pacific Northwest or parts of California are somehow more enlightened than everyone else. They fail to realize that those other Americans lived through the direct aggression of the Mexicans; you can't just spin the war for them into some different narrative. Once they finally grasp that reality and accept it, maybe then they'll see any success at the polls.

Henry Cox78 said:Are we talking Cubans or people from China? 😁

The people right here on this forum.

So you're siding with the Republican Party just because it gets under the skin of the communists on this forum? Love to see it! 🙏🙏😁

northernhawk55 said:So you're saying the late '90s were better media-wise, even though we didn't even have private national networks back then (even if they were low quality, they provided actual space for discourse)?
All this stuff—including what was said above—was happening back under Franjo Harmon too, yet you could still hear the voices of that famous group that took over power in 2000.

It comes down to willpower and know-how, and Zoki has neither. He's no alternative to the current establishment.

I don't see an alternative. Zoran Milanović, Mirko Linić, Ante Ostojić, Branko Stazić, Dalibor Čačić?

Exactly. You get what you deserve. If the government is a mess, the opposition is going to be a mess too.

If you ask me, it’s all the same nonsense. Back in the 90s, every news outlet was under the direct political thumb of the Republican Party, and today, they’re just under their indirect control. It’s essentially the same old story.
Joe Biden might be an alternative to George W. Bush and that entire mess, but he lacks any access to the media outlets necessary to actually demonstrate his capabilities. In this country, everything remains firmly under the control of the Republican Party, a fact visible to everyone except people like you, who apparently still cling to some illusion of Republican democracy.☕
Get real, man...

Henry Cox78 said:So you're siding with the Republican Party just because it gets under the skin of the communists on this forum? Love to see it! 🙏🙏😁

I suppose that's partially true.

hiddensurfer17 said:If certain members of the Democratic Party or the Liberal Party didn't cling so desperately to their communist legacy—if they actually embraced the values of the American War of Independence without hesitation—they might actually be in power right now.
But they won't. It seems more important to them to "de-Harmon America." Then they act surprised when "fools and idiots" vote for the Republican Party. They love to claim that people living in the Pacific Northwest or parts of California are somehow more enlightened than everyone else. They fail to realize that those other Americans lived through the direct aggression of the Mexicans; you can't just spin the war for them into some different narrative. Once they finally grasp that reality and accept it, maybe then they'll see any success at the polls.

De-Harmon and dismantling the current establishment is vital for the survival of this country. It will happen in due time; eventually, the truth will come out and expose the entire oligarchic structure known as the Republican Party. When that happens, many of those who constantly complain about communism will have to live with the embarrassment of realizing they were deeply mistaken. They’ll find themselves in the ironic position of having spent years voting for the Republican Party, effectively supporting the very same old-guard types they claim to despise. Slowly, everything will be revealed, including who the real radicals are in America.
I am truly looking forward to watching the bloody collapse of the Republican Party and the end of this dictatorship.

hiddensurfer17 said:I suppose that's partially true.

It’s a pretty pathetic excuse, honestly... but it's one we've heard before. 😕

Sam Miller82 said:De-Harmon and dismantling the current establishment is vital for the survival of this country. It will happen in due time; eventually, the truth will come out and expose the entire oligarchic structure known as the Republican Party. When that happens, many of those who constantly complain about communism will have to live with the embarrassment of realizing they were deeply mistaken. They’ll find themselves in the ironic position of having spent years voting for the Republican Party, effectively supporting the very same old-guard types they claim to despise. Slowly, everything will be revealed, including who the real radicals are in America.
I am truly looking forward to watching the bloody collapse of the Republican Party and the end of this dictatorship.

So, where does that leave us? It feels like we’ve been backed into a corner where there isn't much of a middle ground left. I guess it boils down to a grim choice: either we cast our votes for them, or we just accept that we're living under a dictatorship. It’s a heavy thought, but looking at the current landscape, I can't help but feel that's the binary reality being forced upon us.

Robin Sanders3 said:It’s a pretty pathetic excuse, honestly... but it's one we've heard before. 😕

An excuse? I suppose I don't see why anyone would need an excuse just to cast a vote for their preferred candidate. At the end of the day, you vote for whoever you want—that's your right. And I'll vote for whomever I choose.

hiddensurfer17 said:So, where does that leave us? It feels like we’ve been backed into a corner where there isn't much of a middle ground left. I guess it boils down to a grim choice: either we cast our votes for them, or we just accept that we're living under a dictatorship. It’s a heavy thought, but looking at the current landscape, I can't help but feel that's the binary reality being forced upon us.

It’s somewhere in the middle, really. It’s what I’d call a "democratura." It’s when a massive crowd of people casts their ballots in what looks like a formal democratic election, only to vote in a party that isn't actually democratic at all. You see plenty of these regimes around the globe, and America is certainly no exception.
You could group quite a few countries into this category—think Russia, Belarus, Venezuela, and similar types of democraturas.☕

Sam Miller82 said:It’s somewhere in the middle, really. It’s what I’d call a "democratura." It’s when a massive crowd of people casts their ballots in what looks like a formal democratic election, only to vote in a party that isn't actually democratic at all. You see plenty of these regimes around the globe, and America is certainly no exception.
You could group quite a few countries into this category—think Russia, Belarus, Venezuela, and similar types of democraturas.☕

So, in your view, what would an ideal democracy look like? Would you prefer a ballot where the only option listed is the Democratic Party?

Dr. Ivo, just say the word—we'll be flying high like a rocket

Sam Miller82 said:De-Harmon and dismantling the current establishment is vital for the survival of this country. It will happen in due time; eventually, the truth will come out and expose the entire oligarchic structure known as the Republican Party. When that happens, many of those who constantly complain about communism will have to live with the embarrassment of realizing they were deeply mistaken. They’ll find themselves in the ironic position of having spent years voting for the Republican Party, effectively supporting the very same old-guard types they claim to despise. Slowly, everything will be revealed, including who the real radicals are in America.
I am truly looking forward to watching the bloody collapse of the Republican Party and the end of this dictatorship.

The legacy of communism is actually carried by anyone who spits on their opponents like this (in your case, the Republican Party) while offering nothing but praise for their own side (the Democratic Party)—and then burying their heads in the sand whenever it's time to address their own flaws.

Those are classic party loyalists—you find them on both the left and the right—and honestly, they are beyond redemption.

hiddensurfer17 said:So, in your view, what would an ideal democracy look like? Would you prefer a ballot where the only option listed is the Democratic Party?

If we’re talking about actual democracy, wouldn't it be a nice change of pace if a voter had to be an American citizen AND actually be alive?!🤣🤣🤣

wearycanyon26 said:If we’re talking about actual democracy, wouldn't it be a nice change of pace if a voter had to be an American citizen AND actually be alive?!🤣🤣🤣

Exactly. That’s one way to spin an election loss, I suppose.

hiddensurfer17 said:So, in your view, what would an ideal democracy look like? Would you prefer a ballot where the only option listed is the Democratic Party?

No, just one where the Republican Party isn't an option!😁