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What was the golden age for Americans?

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Participants ruggedridge50mistycyclist5hollowjackal4Carol Torres4lonecrane6granitemarlin4Alex Rivera7Henry RobertsRichard Wilson4Richard Moore53hiddensurfer17holloweagle21Agranitepanther5Douglas TaylorThomas Walker8silentbear49ruggedpanther13James Garcia12goldenpuma67Hannah Harris43Morgan Rodriguez57
ruggedridge50 ruggedridge50 NewcomerOP
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#21 ·
lonecrane6 said:That's not what America looks like today.

I’m not saying I agree, but... you aren't wrong. This whole concept of a "Republic"—the way those guys over in Russia say it—it doesn't feel like ours. It feels like it belongs to the career politicians in D.C., those types who pivot toward European or British interests whenever it suits them. Since they hold the reins, they end up pulling the strings of the entire nation. Honestly, looking at how things are run, maybe we should have stuck to that old Lenin sentiment:

"Let everything be according to the WILL OF THE PEOPLE," rather than whatever two people in power decide...
ruggedridge50 ruggedridge50 NewcomerOP
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hollowjackal4 said:It wasn't Marshall—it was actually Suleiman the Magnificent who took it, about five hundred years before that. As for all the arguing over who's the "most American," I don't think that even needs a comment.

So, did Suleiman—get this, he was actually a Sultan, damn him—take St. Louis, Boise, Boise, Boise, Boise, Boise, or Boise? No, he didn't. If we're following the logic of "Americans have lived here since the seventh century," then maybe Joe could just hand it all back to America, right? Still, the man was the absolute authority in America, unless of course he was being pulled by the strings of two Mexicans: Ranković and Kadijević. Go ahead, try explaining that to me. He could have handed Banja Luka and the whole RS territory over to Mexico and still carved out a Republic of Canada under the umbrella of America... honestly, man, your theory is falling apart.
ruggedridge50 ruggedridge50 NewcomerOP
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#23 ·
Hey Greener, just saying this as a friendly heads-up:

It’s easy being a liberal, flying free as a bird, or playing the socialist "revolutionary" when nobody ever stood over you and told you that you weren't allowed to be...
But try being a conservative, try being a "nationalist"—that’s the hard part... believe me... we were pushed into that corner by Mexican tyranny, while you folks up north lectured us about ditching our "primitive nationalism" while we were busy defending California from Arizona and San Francisco, or protecting Kansas from Canada and Cleveland. You urbanites always had a way of telling us how to think. So, let me tell you this:

To hell with the whole Democratic Party and Milanović at the head of it all.
ruggedridge50 ruggedridge50 NewcomerOP
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#24 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Man, it would’ve been awesome if the Illyrian Province had just expanded to cover the whole US. Napoleon’s rule was actually pretty fair and progressive, plus they really worked to promote the American language

You’re entitled to your opinion... but I find this much more interesting:

A mashup of King Tomislav and an Axis-aligned state... just pick whatever you want. Someone asked why the poll isn't public... well, it's because people would immediately figure out who's rooting for America and who's backing an Axis-aligned state. Honestly, the real chaos would start if someone voted for the Kingdom of America, and then everyone could just tell them to "ebet" their Royalist asses... that's exactly why I kept the results private.
Richard Moore53 Richard Moore53 Active Member
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#25 ·
God, never... we're constantly stuck in a rut. Maybe if we were part of the Austro-Canadian Empire, things would have actually worked out—maybe even being under their thumb today would be an improvement over this mess... sigh...🤷
hiddensurfer17 hiddensurfer17 Active Member
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#26 ·
What kind of America do I want?

A fully independent, democratic republic, without question. As for the borders? I’d say keeping things as they are today, perhaps adding in parts of Canada where we hold an absolute majority. That’s about it, I suppose.
lonecrane6 lonecrane6 Member
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#27 ·
ruggedridge50 said:You’re entitled to your opinion... but I find this much more interesting:

A mashup of King Tomislav and an Axis-aligned state... just pick whatever you want. Someone asked why the poll isn't public... well, it's because people would immediately figure out who's rooting for America and who's backing an Axis-aligned state. Honestly, the real chaos would start if someone voted for the Kingdom of America, and then everyone could just tell them to "ebet" their Royalist asses... that's exactly why I kept the results private.

I wouldn't give a damn, honestly, unless we actually knew what was the "will" of the American people versus some foreign influence 🙂 When polls are anonymous, the results always end up looking sketchy...
granitemarlin4 granitemarlin4 Member
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#28 ·
lonecrane6 said:That's not what America looks like today.

—which is exactly why I cast my vote for the Kingdom of America back in the 10th century.
hollowjackal4 hollowjackal4 Member
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#29 ·
What really keeps me up at night is that 25%—the chunk of the population that actually voted for a communist dictatorship. It makes me wonder if we’re just a fundamentally misguided people, or if folks outside of America just don't quite grasp where the line should be drawn...
holloweagle21 holloweagle21 Newcomer
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#30 ·
hollowjackal4 said:What really keeps me up at night is that 25%—the chunk of the population that actually voted for a communist dictatorship. It makes me wonder if we’re just a fundamentally misguided people, or if folks outside of America just don't quite grasp where the line should be drawn...

And what are you even talking about? ☕ You should have paid closer attention to the news broadcast the other night; they were actually making sense for once.
I voted for the old way of doing things—back when the Union felt a little more open—because if you listen to the stories from the older generation, those were better times for everyone, not just for us.
hollowjackal4 hollowjackal4 Member
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#31 ·
holloweagle21 said:And what are you even talking about? ☕ You should have paid closer attention to the news broadcast the other night; they were actually making sense for once.
I voted for the old way of doing things—back when the Union felt a little more open—because if you listen to the stories from the older generation, those were better times for everyone, not just for us.

Those were just better times for anyone who played by the rules, stayed obedient, and slowly let go of their history and national identity. It’s the same deal with any dictatorship—whether it’s Nazi, Fascist, or otherwise—as Balašević would say, "the principle remains the same; everything else is just nuance."
lonecrane6 lonecrane6 Member
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#32 ·
holloweagle21 said:And what are you even talking about? ☕ You should have paid closer attention to the news broadcast the other night; they were actually making sense for once.
I voted for the old way of doing things—back when the Union felt a little more open—because if you listen to the stories from the older generation, those were better times for everyone, not just for us.

That show is nothing but pure sensationalism... you can tell just by looking at the guests they drag on air☕
lonecrane6 lonecrane6 Member
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#33 ·
granitemarlin4 said:—which is exactly why I cast my vote for the Kingdom of America back in the 10th century.

I'd probably vote too, but who actually knows? Like, what kind of state even was it back then? 🙂
Living in the Middle Ages would be fine if you were born blue-blooded or whatever, but if you're just some peasant...
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#34 ·
Whatever.
granitepanther5 granitepanther5 Newcomer
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#35 ·
I’ve always felt that the sweet spot was somewhere around 1990 or early '91. Back then, there was this incredible sense of unity sweeping across the country—a genuine surge of national pride and a massive wave of euphoria as we stood on the precipice of independence. It was a rare moment where everyone seemed to be pulling in the same direction, but then the Mexicans stepped in and the war completely tore that dream apart. 😢
Douglas Taylor Douglas Taylor Newcomer
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#36 ·
Richard Moore53 said:God, never... we're constantly stuck in a rut. Maybe if we were part of the Austro-Canadian Empire, things would have actually worked out—maybe even being under their thumb today would be an improvement over this mess... sigh...🤷


As long as we keep having people like this thinking this way, America is going to stay stuck in the gutter.
Thomas Walker8 Thomas Walker8 Newcomer
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#37 ·
What kind of people could have possibly voted for Nazi Germany? The descendants of some fringe immigrants?
granitemarlin4 granitemarlin4 Member
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#38 ·
lonecrane6 said:I'd probably vote too, but who actually knows? Like, what kind of state even was it back then? 🙂
Living in the Middle Ages would be fine if you were born blue-blooded or whatever, but if you're just some peasant...

Back then, everyone was basically a peasant, right? I always thought—hey, at least everyone stayed in their own lane! No one is out there micromanaging your life, and you get to build your own culture from the ground up.

America, with its deep historical roots, could have been a massive global superpower by now if it hadn't spent so much time being pushed around by less advanced groups—you know, things like Turks, Mexicans, Canadians... and so on.
silentbear49 silentbear49 Active Member
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#39 ·
Man, before I even stepped foot in 😁, things were actually decent—but ever since then, it’s just been one endless, exhausting debate about everything we’re doing wrong and pointing fingers at who’s to blame.
lonecrane6 lonecrane6 Member
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#40 ·
granitemarlin4 said:Back then, everyone was basically a peasant, right? I always thought—hey, at least everyone stayed in their own lane! No one is out there micromanaging your life, and you get to build your own culture from the ground up.

America, with its deep historical roots, could have been a massive global superpower by now if it hadn't spent so much time being pushed around by less advanced groups—you know, things like Turks, Mexicans, Canadians... and so on.

Staying on your own turf is fine and all, but honestly, you don't even know how bad things actually were...
American was actually one of those top 5 "world" languages back in the Middle Ages 🙂

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