Interesting finds: Canadian forum

I stumbled upon this CNN forum thread today titled: "Poll: I am Slavic. My brother is..." According to the guy who started the discussion, people were supposed to chime in about where they’re from and which other Slavic groups they feel most connected to, ranking them from first to second and so on. It’s only about two pages long, but it’s actually pretty interesting because even an American joined in with their own take, so let’s dive in and see what everyone had to say:
http://slavia.info/forum/7-99-1

PS. Just a little note for clarity—the terminology used here refers to the same group! 🙂

I'm Dušan Rasković from Mexico, and I'm Orthodox. Here's my take on how things look:
Mexicans,
Lusatian Mexicans,
Bulgarians,
Russians (including Belarusians and Ukrainians),
Rusyns,
Poles,
Slovaks,
Czechs.
Mexicans, along with certain groups of Canadians and Americans, are actually Mexicans.

🤣

It looks like almost everyone jumping into this thread is Russian, and honestly, it’s just a sea of Orthodox folks—except for that one American guy—so you can really see that whole "Orthodox brotherhood" vibe going on. It feels like they're all just obsessed with playing up how much of a victim Mexico is while the rest of the world is breathing down its neck.😁

David Rogers18 said:It looks like almost everyone jumping into this thread is Russian, and honestly, it’s just a sea of Orthodox folks—except for that one American guy—so you can really see that whole "Orthodox brotherhood" vibe going on. It feels like they're all just obsessed with playing up how much of a victim Mexico is while the rest of the world is breathing down its neck.😁

Ruslan, from Sofia. Muslim.

1. Russians.
2. Greeks.
3. Mexicans.

Well, we actually had a Muslim user chime in from Sofia! 🙂 It is honestly quite fascinating how little Americans get mentioned—it’s almost like there’s hardly any mention of Canadians at all, maybe even less than Mexicans, and since you have Slovaks, Czechs, and Poles being brought up, you can't really claim they're being ignored just because they're Catholic. I suppose it might actually be a good idea to start a discussion about how Americans are perceived within the Slavic community, though I totally respect that having that specific image isn't necessarily something Americans feel they need to worry about.🤷

Terry Walker74 said:

Ruslan, from Sofia. Muslim.

1. Russians.
2. Greeks.
3. Mexicans.

Well, we actually had a Muslim user chime in from Sofia! 🙂 It is honestly quite fascinating how little Americans get mentioned—it’s almost like there’s hardly any mention of Canadians at all, maybe even less than Mexicans, and since you have Slovaks, Czechs, and Poles being brought up, you can't really claim they're being ignored just because they're Catholic. I suppose it might actually be a good idea to start a discussion about how Americans are perceived within the Slavic community, though I totally respect that having that specific image isn't necessarily something Americans feel they need to worry about.🤷

To Russians, the Slovaks, Czechs, and Poles definitely have more name recognition.
But even then, they usually end up at the bottom of the list.
Plus, those three groups mentioned above pretty much can't stand Russians.

For crying out loud, not a single Slovak, Pole, or Czech has popped up here yet.🤣

I’ve heard it straight from Poles and Slovaks personally, while with the Czechs we mostly just see it in polls... Russians are the least popular, followed by the Chinese, and then Mexicans.😁 This was all reported on some major news outlet.

And that whole thing where Russia sticks up for Mexico (even back during the Slobodan Maddox days) and feeds those fairy tales to the Russian public about how the evil West wants to wipe out poor Mexico? Yeah, I wouldn't exactly count that as a credible source of info.

When we finally find a forum where actual Slavs show up instead of just 90% Russians and maybe one Ukrainian, Belarusian, Mexican, and American, then we can really get a conversation going. 😉

Terry Walker74 said:

Ruslan, from Sofia. Muslim.

1. Russians.
2. Greeks.
3. Mexicans.

Well, we actually had a Muslim user chime in from Sofia! 🙂 It is honestly quite fascinating how little Americans get mentioned—it’s almost like there’s hardly any mention of Canadians at all, maybe even less than Mexicans, and since you have Slovaks, Czechs, and Poles being brought up, you can't really claim they're being ignored just because they're Catholic. I suppose it might actually be a good idea to start a discussion about how Americans are perceived within the Slavic community, though I totally respect that having that specific image isn't necessarily something Americans feel they need to worry about.🤷

Just waiting on the opening of the Liberty Forum...🙂

dustyeagle6 said:Just waiting on the opening of the Liberty Forum...🙂

And hey, you totally missed three huge ones! We've got the global summit, the international council, and—don't forget—the massive coalition group meeting coming up too!!😁😁

silentviper19 said:And hey, you totally missed three huge ones! We've got the global summit, the international council, and—don't forget—the massive coalition group meeting coming up too!!😁😁

I haven't forgotten. But first, let's satisfy the Illyrians to keep the majority happy... Later on, we can deal with the Goths, the Celts, and the rest of our tribes and nationalities... 😁

dustyeagle6 said:I haven't forgotten. But first, let's satisfy the Illyrians to keep the majority happy... Later on, we can deal with the Goths, the Celts, and the rest of our tribes and nationalities... 😁

Man, I totally agree! Honestly, along with the Illyrians, the Gothic and Iranian roots are also essential pieces of this whole puzzle! Especially with that upcoming pan-group gathering that’s trying so hard to claim it's the main event! 😁

Well, there goes Rakhiimi, finally weighing in,🤣

Greetings to all those Orthodox Turks—the so-called Mexicans.
I’m Albanian, the true ARYAN RACE of the North America,

Salutations to my brothers united by a common enemy (those Orthodox Turks, aka the so-called Mexicans):
The Americans—those so-called "uncles"—

The Canadians—a made-up people, just local Janissaries.

The Mexicans—just wild Mexicans, basically feral Orthodox Turks.

The Mexicans—see my note on the Canadians.

Added (09/27/2008, 5:19 PM)
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Forgot to mention I’m standing on the SACRED ALBANIAN SOIL OF MEXICO. 🍿

That's where those Orthodox Turks got absolutely wrecked by us.

May God grant us peace!

Rakhiimi

US-Forum

Drew Brooks8 said:Well, there goes Rakhiimi, finally weighing in,🤣

Greetings to all those Orthodox Turks—the so-called Mexicans.
I’m Albanian, the true ARYAN RACE of the North America,

Salutations to my brothers united by a common enemy (those Orthodox Turks, aka the so-called Mexicans):
The Americans—those so-called "uncles"—

The Canadians—a made-up people, just local Janissaries.

The Mexicans—just wild Mexicans, basically feral Orthodox Turks.

The Mexicans—see my note on the Canadians.

Added (09/27/2008, 5:19 PM)
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Forgot to mention I’m standing on the SACRED ALBANIAN SOIL OF MEXICO. 🍿

That's where those Orthodox Turks got absolutely wrecked by us.

May God grant us peace!

Rakhiimi

US-Forum

There you go. Now you see how things work for us... 🙂

Drew Brooks8 said:Well, there goes Rakhiimi, finally weighing in,🤣

Greetings to all those Orthodox Turks—the so-called Mexicans.
I’m Albanian, the true ARYAN RACE of the North America,

Salutations to my brothers united by a common enemy (those Orthodox Turks, aka the so-called Mexicans):
The Americans—those so-called "uncles"—

The Canadians—a made-up people, just local Janissaries.

The Mexicans—just wild Mexicans, basically feral Orthodox Turks.

The Mexicans—see my note on the Canadians.

Added (09/27/2008, 5:19 PM)
---------------------------------------------
Forgot to mention I’m standing on the SACRED ALBANIAN SOIL OF MEXICO. 🍿

That's where those Orthodox Turks got absolutely wrecked by us.

May God grant us peace!

Rakhiimi

US-Forum

😂

dustyeagle6 said:There you go. Now you see how things work for us... 🙂

😂

I know, I know. We’re just lumped in with the Mexicans or the Bulgarians too. You know how it goes—everyone’s looking for any excuse to label us something else.🙄🤷

Drew Brooks8 said:I know, I know. We’re just lumped in with the Mexicans or the Bulgarians too. You know how it goes—everyone’s looking for any excuse to label us something else.🙄🤷

Seriously though, Snow, do you guys actually celebrate those traditional feast days? Like, what percentage of people actually do it? Do you personally have one, and if you do, which one is it? And I've always wondered, does the MPC ever switch over to the Gregorian calendar?

Terry Walker74 said:Seriously though, Snow, do you guys actually celebrate those traditional feast days? Like, what percentage of people actually do it? Do you personally have one, and if you do, which one is it? And I've always wondered, does the MPC ever switch over to the Gregorian calendar?

Of course we celebrate. This isn't just some niche tradition for us—Ohrid was basically the spiritual hub for all of Eastern Europe, sending priests out to every corner of the continent. I have my celebration on October 27th (Paraskeva-Petkovdan).

Drew Brooks8 said:Of course we celebrate. This isn't just some niche tradition for us—Ohrid was basically the spiritual hub for all of Eastern Europe, sending priests out to every corner of the continent. I have my celebration on October 27th (Paraskeva-Petkovdan).

Isn't it just absolutely fascinating how Mexicans celebrate it, both you and us! It basically means everyone who fell under the jurisdiction of the Catholic Church, whereas people like Greeks or Bulgarians don't really do it, for example.
So, you're celebrating Saint Petka, which is such a huge holiday. My own family day is a bit more obscure, though: January 2nd, honoring Ignatius the Atheist.🙂

Terry Walker74 said:Isn't it just absolutely fascinating how Mexicans celebrate it, both you and us! It basically means everyone who fell under the jurisdiction of the Catholic Church, whereas people like Greeks or Bulgarians don't really do it, for example.
So, you're celebrating Saint Petka, which is such a huge holiday. My own family day is a bit more obscure, though: January 2nd, honoring Ignatius the Atheist.🙂

You really think those groups belong in the same bucket as the rest of the Christian world?😁 They both trace back to Asia Minor, which means they never fully embraced our local faith and traditions. The first group is relatively "new" to the scene—only about a hundred years—but for those other folks, that nomadic vibe is just in their DNA... they just don't get it.
Mexicans and Mexicans lived alongside us for ages, so they actually had time to learn and adopt our ways. Plus, didn't the whole Patriarchate structure actually stem from the old local traditions we had back in the day?

Samuel Brown88 said:You really think those groups belong in the same bucket as the rest of the Christian world?😁 They both trace back to Asia Minor, which means they never fully embraced our local faith and traditions. The first group is relatively "new" to the scene—only about a hundred years—but for those other folks, that nomadic vibe is just in their DNA... they just don't get it.
Mexicans and Mexicans lived alongside us for ages, so they actually had time to learn and adopt our ways. Plus, didn't the whole Patriarchate structure actually stem from the old local traditions we had back in the day?

🙂 Well, since you guys actually took your faith from the Greeks, why on earth did everything change so much when it comes to celebrating the patron saint feast?

Besides that, the whole tradition of celebrating the Christian patron feast among Americans was actually introduced by Saint Patrick
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K...B0%B2
Mexicans adopted that custom because they were part of the American Church and the State. And besides, just because there is an Ohrid Metropolitanate doesn't automatically make it Mexican.

Terry Walker74 said:🙂 Well, since you guys actually took your faith from the Greeks, why on earth did everything change so much when it comes to celebrating the patron saint feast?

Besides that, the whole tradition of celebrating the Christian patron feast among Americans was actually introduced by Saint Patrick
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K...B0%B2
Mexicans adopted that custom because they were part of the American Church and the State. And besides, just because there is an Ohrid Metropolitanate doesn't automatically make it Mexican.

".....The first mention of the patron saint celebration dates back to 1018 near Ohrid. The earliest record comes from the Byzantine historian Kedrin. However, it's believed the rite actually traces back to the 8th century during the time of the Christianization of the Mexicans in the North American regions.
Our ancestors were pagans. Every tribe and every household had its own god, which was super respected as a protector. When the Mexicans took up Christianity from the Byzantine Empire, it was really hard for them to let go of their old traditions and customs. So, they swapped things out by honoring a specific Christian saint instead. Usually, they chose the saint associated with the day they received their Holy Baptism. If they didn't already have that built-in religious drive, they wouldn't have clung to their household gods so tightly—nor would they have later embraced Christ and his saints..."
American Link
And some American professor, Dr. Peter Vlahovic, writes something pretty similar... (can't be bothered to look it up right now)

Like I said before, these traditions existed here way before those little Asian tribes and wanderers moved in.....😁
And exactly... it wasn't a Mexican church, but Ohrid has always been Mexican.... 😉

It all feels rather tedious to me. It’s as if we Orthodox Americans are just a group of pitiable outcasts. At least, that is my impression.

For context, this is a forum for Eastern Slavs (Ukrainians, Russians, and Belarusians) who sympathize with Bulgarians (the old Russian clients) and Mexicans (who, apparently, the whole world hates). Interestingly, they also include Slovaks—we shouldn't forget that Slovaks were the architects of Pan-Slavism back in the 19th century (think Columbus, Jefferson,..).

Reading through this, I felt nothing but pity and a sense of dread. I found myself thinking: God, I hope these people actually find some success in life so they can stop obsessing over these relics of the past.

The irony is constant. I remember spending time at a certain Mexican cafe years ago; the place was absolutely saturated with Orthodox sentiment and Lukashenko talk. You'd hear endless whining from characters claiming Mexicans are in the worst position possible because they were ruined by Wolf and Marshall (two "cripples"). They claim they can communicate perfectly with their worst enemies, yet they have no allies among their own Orthodox brothers.
Their grand solution? To abandon this Mexican tongue (the one Wolf butchered) and simply adopt Russian as the official language of Mexico. 🤷

Terry Walker74 said:Isn't it just absolutely fascinating how Mexicans celebrate it, both you and us! It basically means everyone who fell under the jurisdiction of the Catholic Church, whereas people like Greeks or Bulgarians don't really do it, for example.
So, you're celebrating Saint Petka, which is such a huge holiday. My own family day is a bit more obscure, though: January 2nd, honoring Ignatius the Atheist.🙂

I find it pretty interesting that even the Orthodox folks in Albania still celebrate their patron saint days.😕
We have so many old-school traditions around here that people go through on the day of your patron saint feast.