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Progress or just spoiled kids?

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amberfox4 amberfox4 Active Member
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#41 ·
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=kBVmfIUR1DA I would suggest you turn up the volume on your speakers and simply let yourself get lost in the experience.
Jose Mendoza5 Jose Mendoza5 Newcomer
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#42 ·
While it's true that many schools across America have switched over to those whiteboards and dry-erase markers, I think you might have missed my metaphorical point. My argument was that whether you're using a traditional chalkboard or—if you insist on the modern way—plastic boards and markers (which, let’s be honest, usually squeak incessantly, run out of ink constantly, or are just cheap, low-quality garbage because the school district won't buy the good stuff...), the method itself isn't the crux of it. The real key is having a teacher who is actually motivated—someone willing to pour their heart and soul into the job even when they're sweating through their clothes in 105-degree heat.
But honestly, the whole whiteboard thing wasn't the main point. That was just a little aside to highlight my primary concern: the weather conditions lately have been absolutely brutal for everyone, both for the students and the teachers alike!
Andrew Ramos10 Andrew Ramos10 Active Member
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#43 ·
amberfox4 said:http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=kBVmfIUR1DA I would suggest you turn up the volume on your speakers and simply let yourself get lost in the experience.

😂 man, what a lunatic...
honestly though, I have a feeling this video is totally fake
Henry Moore2 Henry Moore2 Active Member
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#44 ·
Why on earth would kids hitting the classroom right now have it any harder than I did just six years ago? It’s not like the global temperature spiked by twenty degrees since I graduated. We followed the exact same grind—September through June, sitting in those desks every single day for seven hours, plus Saturdays. And look, we're still standing. Honestly, it feels like kids these days are just being raised way too soft.
amberfox4 amberfox4 Active Member
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#45 ·
Andrew Ramos10 said:😂 man, what a lunatic...
honestly though, I have a feeling this video is totally fake

To my mind, it seems entirely authentic, much to my own misfortune.
shadowtrucker18 shadowtrucker18 Active Member
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#46 ·
It’s clearly fake. ☕
amberfox4 amberfox4 Active Member
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#47 ·
Honestly, what is wrong with you people? Do you really think that just because it isn't explicitly stated, it doesn't exist? My friend’s kid is giving that little darling of yours some seriously stiff competition. And calling it "fake"? Please. Are we now suggesting the boy is somehow outperforming Al Pacino or those other Oscar winners? I find that hard to swallow... The truth is much simpler: the kid is throwing a tantrum because he's utterly overwhelmed, miserable, spoiled, and frankly, a handful.
feralhound55 feralhound55 Active MemberOP
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#48 ·
amberfox4 said:http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=kBVmfIUR1DA I would suggest you turn up the volume on your speakers and simply let yourself get lost in the experience.

Great. I don't buy the "fake" argument—I've seen plenty of examples in real life.

Uh... finding that balance is tough... (assuming, since I don't have kids yet) especially when you're coming from an unstable household.

Just a quick thought—parents trying to make up for a lack of affection with material stuff doesn't automatically lead to spoiled kids. Not if there isn't much to begin with. Speaking from experience. It's actually why I spend so much time thinking about how to raise a healthy, happy kid.
Nicole Allen10 Nicole Allen10 Active Member
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#49 ·
Henry Moore2 said:Why on earth would kids hitting the classroom right now have it any harder than I did just six years ago? It’s not like the global temperature spiked by twenty degrees since I graduated. We followed the exact same grind—September through June, sitting in those desks every single day for seven hours, plus Saturdays. And look, we're still standing. Honestly, it feels like kids these days are just being raised way too soft.

Regardless, it isn't normal. You finished your schooling before the absolute madness kicked off back in 2003. Sure, it might not be hitting 105 degrees like it does in Montpelier, but that doesn't make this any more acceptable.
Andrew Ramos10 Andrew Ramos10 Active Member
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#50 ·
amberfox4 said:Honestly, what is wrong with you people? Do you really think that just because it isn't explicitly stated, it doesn't exist? My friend’s kid is giving that little darling of yours some seriously stiff competition. And calling it "fake"? Please. Are we now suggesting the boy is somehow outperforming Al Pacino or those other Oscar winners? I find that hard to swallow... The truth is much simpler: the kid is throwing a tantrum because he's utterly overwhelmed, miserable, spoiled, and frankly, a handful.

I don't know... something just feels off to me
once he actually starts playing... he really should be calming down
but he’s still just screaming her head off
so I think it's a bit weird... plus, it's like he wouldn't even realize there's a camera filming him
Nicole Allen10 Nicole Allen10 Active Member
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#51 ·
Andrew Ramos10 said:I don't know... something just feels off to me
once he actually starts playing... he really should be calming down
but he’s still just screaming her head off
so I think it's a bit weird... plus, it's like he wouldn't even realize there's a camera filming him

Yeah, I'm getting that exact same vibe.
amberfox4 amberfox4 Active Member
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#52 ·
Andrew Ramos10 said:I don't know... something just feels off to me
once he actually starts playing... he really should be calming down
but he’s still just screaming her head off
so I think it's a bit weird... plus, it's like he wouldn't even realize there's a camera filming him

Look, unless you're bothering to read the subtitles or happen to be fluent in German, you won't grasp why he's yelling—the computer is glitching out on him, and naturally, he's taking his frustrations out on the game. As for the camera, it was clearly set up by a family member—maybe a sister, a parent, or a brother, who knows? It seems like the kid throws these fits quite often, and you can tell because the camera is positioned in such an awkward, amateurish spot. Honestly, it's just one of those things; the child is having a temper tantrum. I have actually witnessed something remarkably similar with my own eyes, though it was with a slightly younger child, and fortunately, the mother managed to calm them down, even though it was happening in a public place. It was quite a distressing scene, truly.
Henry Moore2 Henry Moore2 Active Member
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#53 ·
I’ve actually dealt with a few scenes just like that with my former sister-in-law’s little one. Total chaos in restaurants, throwing fits on the floor at McDonald's because he didn't get the specific toy he wanted, even cursing out the waitress because they were serving PepsiCo instead of Coca-Cola... he’d even go as far as ripping his own clothes off. The kid was only about three years old at the time.
Andrew Ramos10 Andrew Ramos10 Active Member
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#54 ·
Is that what you call a nervous breakdown... just a total collapse?
Because from where I’m sitting, it looks more like pure manic madness
amberfox4 amberfox4 Active Member
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#55 ·
Do you ever find yourselves reminiscing about those old reality docuseries, like that one show featuring the "Super Nanny" figure who would swoop into households to impose some semblance of order on unruly, spoiled children? I believe it was aired on an American network, perhaps something like ABC or TLC, if my memory serves me correctly. It makes me wonder, quite frankly—when those kids were acting out for the cameras, what on earth was the reality like when the production crew actually packed up and left? One can only imagine the sheer chaos behind the scenes. There were moments in those clips that felt almost impossible to witness; I recall sitting there, completely incredulous, struggling to process the madness unfolding on screen.
Jonathan Morgan Jonathan Morgan Newcomer
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#56 ·
A little over a century ago, back before labor unions really gained their footing and started fighting for workers' rights, the whole concept of a 40-hour workweek didn't even exist. We didn't have things like the minimum wage, overtime pay, sick leave, maternity leave, or even a legally mandated amount of vacation time... today, all of those things are more or less just taken for granted. And even if they weren't, we collectively assume they *should* be, and people fight tooth and nail through protests and strikes to ensure they stay that way 😉

In short... PROGRESS
So why shouldn't we allow that same kind of evolution in education... or really, in any part of life!
Why wouldn't things be better for me than they were for my parents?
I live with the hope that my future children will have it even better than I do!
As for being "spoiled," that’s just a byproduct of how you're raised... the upbringing of my kids will be entirely on me (and my partner, obviously), and it won't even cross my mind to blame the classroom atmosphere, lighter backpacks, or technological advancements for any mistakes I make in parenting them!
Emily Robinson4 Emily Robinson4 Member
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#57 ·
Jonathan Morgan said:A little over a century ago, back before labor unions really gained their footing and started fighting for workers' rights, the whole concept of a 40-hour workweek didn't even exist. We didn't have things like the minimum wage, overtime pay, sick leave, maternity leave, or even a legally mandated amount of vacation time... today, all of those things are more or less just taken for granted. And even if they weren't, we collectively assume they *should* be, and people fight tooth and nail through protests and strikes to ensure they stay that way 😉

In short... PROGRESS
So why shouldn't we allow that same kind of evolution in education... or really, in any part of life!
Why wouldn't things be better for me than they were for my parents?
I live with the hope that my future children will have it even better than I do!
As for being "spoiled," that’s just a byproduct of how you're raised... the upbringing of my kids will be entirely on me (and my partner, obviously), and it won't even cross my mind to blame the classroom atmosphere, lighter backpacks, or technological advancements for any mistakes I make in parenting them!


I agree, though I can't help but feel it was "easier" to raise kids twenty years ago compared to now. Twenty years ago, kids didn't have this endless buffet of choices at their fingertips—they were content with what they had. Still, progress, tech development, and the sheer expansion of the market—regardless of whether people want to admit it—definitely plays a role in making kids more entitled.
Henry Moore2 Henry Moore2 Active Member
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#58 ·
Andrew Ramos10 said:Is that what you call a nervous breakdown... just a total collapse?
Because from where I’m sitting, it looks more like pure manic madness

honestly, it’s just a complete lack of discipline.
Nicole Allen10 Nicole Allen10 Active Member
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#59 ·
@Bea Look, even today, there are still kids out there whose parents just can't swing those high-end tech gadgets, though they’re definitely in the minority these days. It’s like trying to keep up with the Joneses when you're working a blue-collar job in a small town—some people just don't have that kind of disposable income. Regardless, you still have to draw a line in the sand somewhere. You can't just let the tech dictate everything.
Jason Campbell7 Jason Campbell7 Newcomer
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#60 ·
Jose Mendoza5 said:Nowhere else in the country does the school day kick off this early. It’s honestly heartbreaking that my child is attending a school where even wearing shorts is against the rules, all while there isn't a single air conditioner in sight. They come home absolutely exhausted, looking like they’ve spent the entire day doing manual labor out in the sun. I am certainly not suggesting we coddle children, but surely some basic environmental standards for learning need to be met. If the heat is this intense, installing AC in the classrooms is a necessity. If that proves too costly, then perhaps delaying the start of the school year by a week or two would be more sensible.
Regarding classroom technology, it seems everything remains stagnant. It's just chalk and boards. Though, if I'm being honest, I personally feel that might actually be the most effective method—that direct, interactive engagement between student and teacher. However, if we want to attract high-quality educators who truly care about their vocation, we ought to compensate them with a decent salary.
One can only imagine what those people are enduring right now, stuck in uncooled classrooms while the thermometer hits 104 degrees.
Can such teaching truly be considered high quality? Does it even make sense at this point?
It feels like Primorac is just waiting for someone to suffer a heatstroke before realizing he’s overreached, much like his handling of the state standardized tests, which students managed to completely dismantle in a single day!

What kind of school has a garbage principal who won't let kids dress how they want? Back in the old days, we showed up to school however we felt, but now they're trying to apply these "modern" pedagogical trends fueled by some sort of hypocritical moralizing... it's gross.

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