I see where you're coming from, but I don't agree with what you're aiming for. Just because there are fewer posts doesn't mean this subforum has gone downhill. Quantity isn't quality. In fact, this sub was basically becoming a personal diary for Kerefek76, where he’d jump into every single thread trying to paint some "big picture," but most of the time that "picture" drifted way too far from the actual Economy and turned every discussion into the same repetitive loop. It's exactly those kinds of debates that drove away the constructive users who used to post high-quality stuff, and it’ll take time for them to come back—if they even bother.
Look, sure, any political decision that hits the Economy should be mentioned, but the conversation needs to stay focused on fiscal matters rather than heavy-duty politics. That’s what the Politics sub is for. The problem is that some people with a massive political bias see topics that overlap with the Economy and barge in with posts that belong in Politics, but since they aren't allowed to post there, they just drift down here instead.
Here’s a quick example. A thread about labor immigration. This is the Economy sub, but there's a parallel thread over in Politics discussing policy decisions, how Asians integrate into our society, and every other random thing under the sun. Yet, one of the first posts in the labor import thread on
Economy is:
Kerefek76 said:Globalist nonsense....
I'm sick to death of this globalist drivel about capital, migration, wage rates, deciding who deserves what based on some imaginary metric, whether a guy can give birth or not, if a kid can have three moms in a polygamous LGBTQ+ relationship, and all this other satanic garbage they use to rot people's brains.
Well, it's not gonna happen....
That degenerate from a Frankfurt skyscraper, who spends his free time sodomizing his dogs, is up against much tougher players.
Whatever, man. Stuff like this has absolutely nothing to do with the Economy, just like this:
First, let's look at the insults aimed at the user who works as a merchant marine:
Kerefek76 said:🤣🤣
I'm gonna hurt myself....
So everyone else relies on a paycheck, but you rely on what exactly?
Man, if you weren't making bank from spending half a year in the middle of nowhere destroying your health, you wouldn't have a damn thing to your name.
And what did you actually achieve after spending half your life sucking each other off with your buddies on a ship in the middle of the ocean?
A thousand square feet of land with a tiny little garden shed and a concrete Chinese wall.
Nice trade... really nice... trading your health and half your life for a garden shed...
Bravo, sit down, score: 5....
Then there's the bit about Ukraine and WW3:
Kerefek76 said:You’re missing the forest for the trees.
World War III is already underway. It’s a power struggle between different factions of global elites and bankers. The financial and energy wars are in full swing, while the physical, hot conflict is currently localized in Ukraine, with the constant risk of it bleeding out into a global disaster.
The EU is losing ground right now, and if things don't shift, they’re going to end up broke. The European middle class is going to vanish, and the GDP of member states will crater.
It isn't just two sides fighting; there are multiple players involved, which is what makes this conflict so unique.
But hey, why am I even telling this to a guy who put all his eggs in the tourism basket?
Kerefek76 said:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ment-rcna54891
https://mwi.usma.edu/meet-the-lithua...y-cooperation/
Unlike you, I actually read.
U.S. troops are officially on Ukrainian soil under the guise of "monitoring" the American equipment being sent over.
You've got Poles and everyone else there too.
And of course, Americans, Poles, and other "volunteers"—that's how they label the non-Ukrainians who die—are getting killed.
WW3 has already started, kid, whether you believe it or not.
Of course, you won't buy it because the news hasn't officially announced on the nightly broadcast that WW3 started on a specific date.
And then there's COVID and the vaccine:
Kerefek76 said:Diarrhea?
Just a year ago, you people were hitting us with a massive media blitz about getting vaccinated. I wasn't even allowed to walk into my damn office because my boss was panicking; I couldn't even pick up a package at the post office even though I was standing right there at the counter facing the clerk. You guys harassed my wife with those endless swab tests and whatnot...
And now, suddenly, everyone is playing dumb like nothing ever happened.
The same boss won't even talk about COVID anymore; he refuses to touch the subject. None of the vaccinated people in my circle want to mention the vaccine now either..
You hypocrites! All of you vaccinated people who spent two years making our lives miserable!
And now I'm not supposed to talk about the deaths....
Because the data is undeniable... across all countries... the excess mortality is unquestionable.
https://metatron.substack.com/p/the-...o-excess-death
Here, take this and read it. It’s clearly summarized by country.
It's 2022 and mortality rates are still climbing. People are dying from "unexplained" causes in countries where over 80% of the population is vaccinated.
Interpret it however you want, I don't give a damn....
I'm not going to sit here trembling in the dark, trying to convince myself that the vaccine is fine and that heart attacks and strokes aren't linked to it. Or that the rise in autoimmune diseases and cancer isn't linked either.
Believe whatever helps you sleep at night.
I saw the whole pattern playing out back in early 2021.
The era of me trying to convince people or explain things is dead and buried.
Nowadays, when my colleagues start venting about "long" COVID, those weird health issues popping up everywhere, or how perfectly healthy neighbors are suddenly dropping dead... I just stop listening. I tell them "it'll be fine" and move on with my day.
You guys failed the basic intelligence and empathy test, and there's nothing I can do to change that. Honestly, it's sad.
It’s pretty hilarious how he pivotally blames the Economy on COVID and the war in Ukraine right after getting some attention there. Plus, this guy has predicted the end of Europe and global apocalypse at least 15 times now. By his math, we should have all been wiped out last fall, yet here we are, still alive and still arguing on this forum.
You know as well as I do that if I set aside an hour, I could drop dozens of posts just like that. There are hundreds upon hundreds of them over the last couple of years, spanning every topic from real estate prices to inflation.
Actually, I see this as a total win-win.
We get our own "boring" subforum where we can actually dig into the Economy—post numbers, charts, run comparisons, and talk shop about inflation, the stock market, investments, or tourism. Meanwhile, Kerefek76 gets his own little corner to dump the exact same posts, sharing his "expert" takes on Ukraine, Putin, COVID, vaccines, NATO, 5G, Nibir, and whatever else.
You guys have a place to read him and argue about those topics, and we have our own playground. Everyone wins.