Multiculturalism...

I’m honestly exhausted by the narrow-minded logic coming from certain individuals, groups, and political parties in California who seem to think they invented the concept of multiculturalism.

Every major city in the world is multicultural. Is that really something we need to debate?
Every single city and region in the US is multicultural. Does anyone actually need proof for that?

In what way is San Francisco more "multicultural" than Washington, D.C., Memphis, St. Louis, or Miami?
Every city or region in this country (not to mention the rest of the world) is a melting pot of different cultures, nationalities, and accents...

What exactly are these narrow-minded parrots from California trying to achieve with this tired, repetitive cliché? Are they just selling smoke to stay in power, or is there something else going on?

P.S. Don't get me wrong—as someone from California, there’s no place I’d rather be than right here at home...

Melissa Richardson3 said:I’m honestly exhausted by the narrow-minded logic coming from certain individuals, groups, and political parties in California who seem to think they invented the concept of multiculturalism.

Every major city in the world is multicultural. Is that really something we need to debate?
Every single city and region in the US is multicultural. Does anyone actually need proof for that?

In what way is San Francisco more "multicultural" than Washington, D.C., Memphis, St. Louis, or Miami?
Every city or region in this country (not to mention the rest of the world) is a melting pot of different cultures, nationalities, and accents...

What exactly are these narrow-minded parrots from California trying to achieve with this tired, repetitive cliché? Are they just selling smoke to stay in power, or is there something else going on?

P.S. Don't get me wrong—as someone from California, there’s no place I’d rather be than right here at home...

True, and every city, every region, and every country deals with the exact same issues.

It's interesting that Damian isn't staging a protest against people like this.

Heh... I can't wait to laugh when it turns out those kids were just being reckless. 🤣

Michael Sullivan3 said:True, and every city, every region, and every country deals with the exact same issues.

It's interesting that Damian isn't staging a protest against people like this.

Damian is staying quiet because he doesn't want to offend the only version of multiculturalism he's ever seen.

If they actually took Kane to somewhere like Amsterdam, he might finally realize what true multiculturalism looks like.

Melissa Richardson3 said:I’m honestly exhausted by the narrow-minded logic coming from certain individuals, groups, and political parties in California who seem to think they invented the concept of multiculturalism.

Every major city in the world is multicultural. Is that really something we need to debate?
Every single city and region in the US is multicultural. Does anyone actually need proof for that?

In what way is San Francisco more "multicultural" than Washington, D.C., Memphis, St. Louis, or Miami?
Every city or region in this country (not to mention the rest of the world) is a melting pot of different cultures, nationalities, and accents...

What exactly are these narrow-minded parrots from California trying to achieve with this tired, repetitive cliché? Are they just selling smoke to stay in power, or is there something else going on?

P.S. Don't get me wrong—as someone from California, there’s no place I’d rather be than right here at home...

That is the exact question I have been asking myself for years... honestly, they are just masking their own chauvinism. I have never experienced anything quite like it—where locals use such an obnoxious tone when talking about people, reducing them to ethnic slurs or labels like you see here in California (I’ve lived here for a few years now, and frankly, it was quite a shock to my system at first). Back in the Midwest, we would never refer to someone by a national label like that... not even after the war. I’ll say it again: in California, people don't actually live *with* one another; they just live *next* to one another. What these people fail to grasp is that that isn't multiculturalism. San Francisco is a deeply divided place—everyone knows exactly which neighborhood belongs to whom... why is it that people passingly refer to Monterey as Medina... or why wouldn't they just buy a house in Sonoma instead...

rapidbison42 said:Heh... I can't wait to laugh when it turns out those kids were just being reckless. 🤣

I suppose anything is possible, but if you actually tried—or maybe if you could—to look at things from a different angle, you might realize there isn't much to laugh about here. You might even start to see why all this graffiti is popping up right now and who's really behind it.
But honestly, trying to explain things to you feels like a total mission impossible, since you seem pretty set in your own ways. It feels like you're always finding random reasons to laugh, mostly just using emojis to react to stuff you don't quite get.

George Morgan3 said:That is the exact question I have been asking myself for years... honestly, they are just masking their own chauvinism. I have never experienced anything quite like it—where locals use such an obnoxious tone when talking about people, reducing them to ethnic slurs or labels like you see here in California (I’ve lived here for a few years now, and frankly, it was quite a shock to my system at first). Back in the Midwest, we would never refer to someone by a national label like that... not even after the war. I’ll say it again: in California, people don't actually live *with* one another; they just live *next* to one another. What these people fail to grasp is that that isn't multiculturalism. San Francisco is a deeply divided place—everyone knows exactly which neighborhood belongs to whom... why is it that people passingly refer to Monterey as Medina... or why wouldn't they just buy a house in Sonoma instead...

What’s wrong with Sonoma?
There's more new construction there than anywhere else in California, and San Franciscans are moving en masse to surrounding areas from Medina to Carmel, or Laguna Beach to Sonoma.
I agree with the rest. An outsider is still an outsider. 😂

Sonoma doesn't need a thing... though I wonder what a San Franciscan would say about the true birthplace of triathlon

Sean Campbell3 said:I suppose anything is possible, but if you actually tried—or maybe if you could—to look at things from a different angle, you might realize there isn't much to laugh about here. You might even start to see why all this graffiti is popping up right now and who's really behind it.
But honestly, trying to explain things to you feels like a total mission impossible, since you seem pretty set in your own ways. It feels like you're always finding random reasons to laugh, mostly just using emojis to react to stuff you don't quite get.

So what?
Are you suggesting some random outsiders need a reason to stage this whole Italian irredentism nonsense?
And which outsiders are we talking about here?

Quinn:

Trying to explain things to you is basically "mission impossible." Honestly, you're just being stubborn. You find excuses to laugh at everything, hiding behind emojis because you don't get what's actually going on.

Those emojis are getting under your skin, aren't they?
If it bothers you that much, I can stop. 😍

George Morgan3 said:Sonoma doesn't need a thing... though I wonder what a San Franciscan would say about the true birthplace of triathlon

You haven't been around lately, so you haven't seen how much things have changed.
A bunch of shacks have gone up, and now they're building luxury villas overlooking Martha's Vineyard.
There's even a whole complex of pool villas over in Chandler. 👍

George Morgan3 said:That is the exact question I have been asking myself for years... honestly, they are just masking their own chauvinism. I have never experienced anything quite like it—where locals use such an obnoxious tone when talking about people, reducing them to ethnic slurs or labels like you see here in California (I’ve lived here for a few years now, and frankly, it was quite a shock to my system at first). Back in the Midwest, we would never refer to someone by a national label like that... not even after the war. I’ll say it again: in California, people don't actually live *with* one another; they just live *next* to one another. What these people fail to grasp is that that isn't multiculturalism. San Francisco is a deeply divided place—everyone knows exactly which neighborhood belongs to whom... why is it that people passingly refer to Monterey as Medina... or why wouldn't they just buy a house in Sonoma instead...

The chauvinists are essentially voting for Kane.
For them, "multiculturalism" is nothing more than a smokescreen for pure bigotry.

rapidbison42 said:You haven't been around lately, so you haven't seen how much things have changed.
A bunch of shacks have gone up, and now they're building luxury villas overlooking Martha's Vineyard.
There's even a whole complex of pool villas over in Chandler. 👍

Yeah, there were some nice villas—right across from the gas station—but honestly, I doubt a single local actually bought one... and who knows if their market value has tanked? In San Francisco, you can still find brand-new builds going for around $1,200 to $1,350 per square foot...

rapidbison42 said:You haven't been around lately, so you haven't seen how much things have changed.
A bunch of shacks have gone up, and now they're building luxury villas overlooking Martha's Vineyard.
There's even a whole complex of pool villas over in Chandler. 👍

? That place is a total backwater... I'm assuming it's strictly for vacation rentals.

rapidbison42 said:You haven't been around lately, so you haven't seen how much things have changed.
A bunch of shacks have gone up, and now they're building luxury villas overlooking Martha's Vineyard.
There's even a whole complex of pool villas over in Chandler. 👍

While Kane was busy having a meltdown, Ivić Pašalić—with Jakovčić giving the green light—was busy building villas in Chandler and apartments in Medina.

It’s the exact same story with the Martha's Vineyard coastline. Kane is screaming about Sanders, while Sanders and Jakovčić are just working together on their shared agenda.

Kane is out there barking all the way from the Sierra Nevada, while Jakovčić is doing the dirty work right under the Sierra Nevada...
A match made in heaven.

rapidbison42 said:So what?
Are you suggesting some random outsiders need a reason to stage this whole Italian irredentism nonsense?
And which outsiders are we talking about here?

Quinn:

Trying to explain things to you is basically "mission impossible." Honestly, you're just being stubborn. You find excuses to laugh at everything, hiding behind emojis because you don't get what's actually going on.

Those emojis are getting under your skin, aren't they?
If it bothers you that much, I can stop. 😍

As usual, there isn't any actual answer or even a hint that you're following what we're talking about here.

It feels a bit pointless, but I guess I'll just copy and paste this so you can try to wrap your head around it:

With existing graffiti like (P)sine, Josip Broz Marshall, or the Old City Gang—which is basically just a bunch of local teenagers tagging whatever they want—new graffiti can be seen in two ways. People who aren't very tolerant might call it fascist, while more liberal folks might just say it's something bored kids did. Even the Mayor of Monterey County, Edi Štifanić, is among those who don't see anything wrong beyond the property damage.
– I believe it's just some kids acting out because they aren't being watched closely enough. Regardless of who actually drew it, no one can undermine the multiculturalism that we people in Monterey County are so proud of.

So, I guess what you're saying is that a swastika wouldn't be considered evil if it was drawn in Monterey County, regardless of who did it? Is that the message?

But then again, I suppose in your ten thousand posts or so, you've probably never actually made a single argued point, right? By the way, you seem to do a much better job on other forums than you do here on Politics or Crazy House.

Melissa Richardson3 said:While Kane was busy having a meltdown, Ivić Pašalić—with Jakovčić giving the green light—was busy building villas in Chandler and apartments in Medina.

It’s the exact same story with the Martha's Vineyard coastline. Kane is screaming about Sanders, while Sanders and Jakovčić are just working together on their shared agenda.

Kane is out there barking all the way from the Sierra Nevada, while Jakovčić is doing the dirty work right under the Sierra Nevada...
A match made in heaven.

We haven't heard a peep out of Jakovčić lately... what happened, did he buy up another small town? And what about those millions of square feet of land near Barbariga? I noticed it's all fenced off now—the sign says "feel free to walk to the ocean," but it conveniently forgets to mention who actually owns the dirt you're walking on. I'm trying my best to fish in these murky California waters, but honestly, even though the coast itself is great, the water is just too clouded right now.
I'm heading off to deal with some laundry; this weather is absolutely draining me—this damn humidity is killing me...

George Morgan3 said:Yeah, there were some nice villas—right across from the gas station—but honestly, I doubt a single local actually bought one... and who knows if their market value has tanked? In San Francisco, you can still find brand-new builds going for around $1,200 to $1,350 per square foot...

You won't find anything new being built for under $1,600.
Actually, unless you're talking about ruins inside old city walls, downtown property is easily double what you mentioned.
The average price sits right around $1,600, but that includes both new developments and older homes.

Michael Sullivan3 said:True, and every city, every region, and every country deals with the exact same issues.

It's interesting that Damian isn't staging a protest against people like this.

" SEXUAL REVOLUTION! " Interesting graffiti. E ???
Drake:

Funny how Damian doesn't seem to be 'starting a revolution' against stuff like this.

He can't go after his own people.

Sean Campbell3 said:As usual, there isn't any actual answer or even a hint that you're following what we're talking about here.

It feels a bit pointless, but I guess I'll just copy and paste this so you can try to wrap your head around it:

With existing graffiti like (P)sine, Josip Broz Marshall, or the Old City Gang—which is basically just a bunch of local teenagers tagging whatever they want—new graffiti can be seen in two ways. People who aren't very tolerant might call it fascist, while more liberal folks might just say it's something bored kids did. Even the Mayor of Monterey County, Edi Štifanić, is among those who don't see anything wrong beyond the property damage.
– I believe it's just some kids acting out because they aren't being watched closely enough. Regardless of who actually drew it, no one can undermine the multiculturalism that we people in Monterey County are so proud of.

So, I guess what you're saying is that a swastika wouldn't be considered evil if it was drawn in Monterey County, regardless of who did it? Is that the message?

But then again, I suppose in your ten thousand posts or so, you've probably never actually made a single argued point, right? By the way, you seem to do a much better job on other forums than you do here on Politics or Crazy House.

And there it is—another classic ad hominem. When you run out of things to say about the topic, you start attacking the person. This is the second time you've done it here.
Then you have the nerve to lecture others about their lack of arguments.

Just to remind you what your level of discourse looks like:
you people are pathetic, absolutely bottom-tier, if you're really that much of a natifascist and all that. You're actually scared of an IBM concert?! You miserable excuses for humans who dare to call yourselves San Franciscans!
Like I said, if anyone actually seized power, it would be you lot—just irredentist scum pretending to be anti-fascists, when in reality, in America today, you're the only fascists around.

This is you, my friend. These are your "arguments." Take a breather, man. You're taking this whole conspiracy far too seriously.
Go ask frcha on this thread; ask him how many years we've been clashing on this forum without ever once trading a single insult.

P.S.
This is off-topic, but someone had to tell this guy to cool it. 😁
I'm only 20 points away from a ban, so please bear with me.

Melissa Richardson3 said:While Kane was busy having a meltdown, Ivić Pašalić—with Jakovčić giving the green light—was busy building villas in Chandler and apartments in Medina.

It’s the exact same story with the Martha's Vineyard coastline. Kane is screaming about Sanders, while Sanders and Jakovčić are just working together on their shared agenda.

Kane is out there barking all the way from the Sierra Nevada, while Jakovčić is doing the dirty work right under the Sierra Nevada...
A match made in heaven.

Meanwhile, Aviv is expanding his footprint with even more developments in Cukrić.
Do we let him? We're supposed to be a melting pot, aren't we? 👍