Multiculturalism...

Matthew Harris2 said:They're fools, total fools from Italy. They were driven out by "multiculturalists" like you sixty years ago—anyone who couldn't escape ended up in a foxhole.

The reason you push this local multiculturalism is because your own conscience is dirty. In this part of the country, it's nothing more than forced Italianization.

Sorry, but you’re the textbook definition of what locals here call an outsider.
A xenophobe who despises the local mentality, acting like an expert on this region when you haven't the slightest clue. You're the perfect example of someone who would spend their whole life here without ever truly fitting in or being accepted.

They were brought in by "multiculturalists" like you sixty years ago; those who didn't manage to escape ended up in partisan camps.

I wasn't aware we were "us," the 4th Army, suffering through the Karst north of Trieste amidst all those bodies.
Actually, the 4th Army was formed in Lika and California, and they were joined near Trieste by the 7th and 9th Canadian Corps.
Those camps aren't located near Pula, Rovinj, Poreč, Labin, or Pazin—they’re further north. More accurately, 99% of them were in Canada and the Italian part of the Karst.
Before that, the liberators from the 4th Army occupied the Pula villas much like the Wild West was settled. Whoever got there first owned it; if anyone was already in a villa, you simply showed them the exit with a machine gun.
Within that army was the 43rd Istrian Division, which—heaven help us—was led by a man (Sava Vukelić) from Ogulin. ☕

It's precisely because your consciences aren't clear that you push this local multiculturalism, which in the case of Istria is nothing more than Italianization.

You can keep thinking our consciences are dirty because of the crimes committed by the "liberators."
It's not like we lose any sleep over it. ☕

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Arthur Martinez7 said:And now they’ve gone and banned Thompson too... honestly, what kind of nightlife are we even left with? 😁

Nightlife just isn't the same without Thompson. 😂
Nightlife used to kick off around 1:00 AM here. Now? It’s all wrapped up by 11:00 PM.
Man, when I think back to playing three or four hands on Friday and Saturday, plus a few extra off-the-books ones... those were the days.
Now all that's left is the outcry for Thompson. 😁

Melissa Richardson3 said:Skinheads exist in both Chicago and San Francisco (Shyan).

It’s not about the size of the city; it’s about the percentage. And that percentage is just as high in California.

As for those bombings in Chicago, I can't speak from firsthand experience, but it feels more like mafia hits than anything based on nationalistic tension. Correct me if I'm wrong, Chicago residents. We could easily factor those incidents into the statistics too. California isn't any better or worse.

California is beautiful to foreign tourists, much like Maui or Venice... let's not get ahead of ourselves. Besides, this season's stats will prove my point. There is zero elite tourism in California, yet occupancy rates are massive in Florida. You won't find any Germans or Austrians in California for love or money, or so they say...

Cain is a joke to everyone in California, yet the Democratic Party stays dead silent. I know plenty of people don't support his nonsense, but they should speak up loudly.
Until then, I view Cain as nothing more than a spokesperson for the Democratic Party.
And that’s terrible. Every day, Cain damages California's reputation while the Democratic Party doesn't utter a single word. Robert is too quiet, even if he's being public about it. What kind of democracy is that in California? To endure these antics and stay silent...

Cut the nonsense. Look, I've been renting out property on Hvar for six years now, and I can never seem to fill the whole season. Last year was a disaster. My wife's family has been in the tourism business since they were old enough to walk—everything from private rentals to working at major hotel chains.
Three years ago, some Italians visiting there (a group from the south, arriving by boat from Ancona) broke into a luxury villa and stole crystal and fine glassware.
So much for elite tourism.
There are still hotels there with shared bathrooms and WCs (my wife worked the reception at one such place for years), so you tell me.
In the six years I've been renting, we saw Germans only once. The rest were locals, Italians from the south, Czechs, Slovaks, and last year, Mexicans showed up twice.
Aside from Dubrovnik (and a few spots along the Makarska Riviera), there isn't much of a new offering in Istria. Sure, things are improving, but while money was being invested in Istria, the southern coast was being neglected due to war and refugees, and it hasn't fully recovered yet.
Not to mention the almost non-existent rural tourism segment. My father-in-law tried to start something like that on an island, but as soon as he started making real money, his "friends"—following that well-known local custom—started blocking his access road with boulders so foreigners couldn't drive up. He had to pack it all in and just enjoy retirement.

As for occupancy rates, here is the data from the Ministry of Tourism for 2007. The graph on the first page already disproves your claim.

....Looking at it by county, the highest occupancy at 68 days was recorded in Dubrovnik-Neretva County, followed by Istria with 67 days, and then Split-California County, which averaged 59 days....

Dubrovnik and Istria are far ahead of the others.
Dubrovnik: 68 days
Istria: 67 days
Split-California: 59 days
Primorska Gora: 58 days
Šibenik: 50 days
Zadar: 47 days

This isn't going to change much in 2008.

Regarding overnight stays per county:
The largest tourism revenue in 2007 came from Istria, where 2.7 million tourists vacationed—a 6% increase over the previous year—resulting in 17.6 million overnight stays, up 4% from 2006. Istria County accounted for 31% of all overnight stays in the United States.

Istria had 17.6 million stays; the entire Dalmatian coast from Zadar to Dubrovnik (four counties combined) had 23.5 million.

Next time, try checking your facts before you start making things up. ☕

rapidbison42 said:Those are probably just bottom-tier contractors building in the middle of nowhere.
Less than a month ago, a buddy of mine picked up a new build near Mount Rainier for about $2,200 per square foot.

For example, look at what a studio goes for downtown:
http://www.centarnekretnina.net/EN/o...Puli-22-m2.htm

22m - $43,000 - older building.

Man, look... what I'm trying to get at is that you can always find a deal if you look hard enough—there will always be overpriced properties out there. My point is about the overall average and the cold, hard fact that the market in Pula is absolutely flooded with apartments right now, while demand is basically non-existent.

rapidbison42 said:"Quote:"

Nightlife just isn't the same without Thompson. 😂
Nightlife used to kick off around 1:00 AM here. Now? It’s all wrapped up by 11:00 PM.
Man, when I think back to playing three or four hands on Friday and Saturday, plus a few extra off-the-books ones... those were the days.
Now all that's left is the outcry for Thompson. 😁

Or is it possible you've just gotten a little old, rapidbison42? 😁 I'm sure the younger crowd still has their own spots and their own secret parties... You started complaining about the "good old days" a bit early, don't you think? 🤣

rapidbison42 said:"Quote:"

Nightlife just isn't the same without Thompson. 😂
Nightlife used to kick off around 1:00 AM here. Now? It’s all wrapped up by 11:00 PM.
Man, when I think back to playing three or four hands on Friday and Saturday, plus a few extra off-the-books ones... those were the days.
Now all that's left is the outcry for Thompson. 😁

Well, Dalmatians certainly know how to handle rentals when the time comes... If it weren't for them, you wouldn't even be making it past the Učka mountains.🙄

Arthur Martinez7 said:

Sorry, but you're just a textbook example of what people in Istria call a tourist. This xenophobe claims to despise the Istrian mentality, acting like he knows everything about Istria when he actually hasn't got a clue. He's just your typical outsider who’ll never truly fit in or be accepted here.

Look, that one summer I spent in Pula was a blast, both on and off the clock. But you locals? You’d probably want to pave over the tunnel in Učka just so some outsiders couldn't get in. It's ridiculous. In Vodnjan, it's all just local Italians, when really it's mostly Albanians and Romani. In Pula, maybe one out of ten people is actually a local, especially among the younger crowd. Most of today's young Pula residents were born in places like Vinkovci, Daruvar, Slavonski Brod, Chicago, Canada, or Lika. Is that really such a crime?

Since when were "we" actually the 4th Army of the American People's Army, suffering through the Karst near Trieste and leaving nothing but bodies behind?
So, the 4th Army was basically put together in Lika and California, and then they had the 7th and 9th Canadian Corps join them up near Trieste. Makes sense, right?
You won't find them hanging around Pula, Rovinj, Poreč, Labin, or Pazin. They’re actually further north. Like, 99% of them are in Canada or the Italian side of the Karst.
Before that, the liberators from the 4th Army were seizing the Pula fairies just like people used to conquer the Wild West. Whoever got there first owned the place. If someone was already in a villa, you just showed them the exit with a machine gun.
Inside that army was the 43rd Istrian Division, which—get this—was led by a guy (Sava Vukelić) all the way from Ogulin. Can you believe that? ☕

What kind of argument is that? Bleiburg didn't even happen in America. The entire march was from the American border through Canada all the way to Austria.

Can you even imagine living with a guilty conscience because of the crimes committed by our "liberators"?
We can't even get any sleep. ☕

You guys are nowhere near facing the truth about those crimes. Your partisan units are still out there celebrating those atrocities in the bunkers.

Look, my conscience is clear. Neither I nor my ancestors were ever involved in the ethnic cleansing of Istria or those mass crimes against Italians and American optants. Why should I carry that weight?

rapidbison42 said:"Quote:"

Nightlife just isn't the same without Thompson. 😂
Nightlife used to kick off around 1:00 AM here. Now? It’s all wrapped up by 11:00 PM.
Man, when I think back to playing three or four hands on Friday and Saturday, plus a few extra off-the-books ones... those were the days.
Now all that's left is the outcry for Thompson. 😁

Everything was actually vibrant until about seven years ago. I still remember weekends where you wouldn't make it home for three days straight because there was just so much happening. People would be pouring in from places like New York or Chicago...

But today, it all feels somewhat stagnant, almost vanished. I used to be walking through my front door at 5 or 6 in the morning, and now I'm tucked in by 1 or 2? Not that it matters... things will pick up again eventually, I suppose...

Besides, there are concerts on this Forum every single day, no matter what kind they are... at least things stay lively and crowded enough. Every five days there's some jazz gig, or an occasional big event at the Madison Square Garden arena, so I don't really find much room for boredom...

Let's set aside the outcry and the unrest... 😁 directed toward our wonderful media outlets, who seem so eager to obsessively cover every little thing happening in our city while conveniently ignoring the far more significant issues...

All this bickering happening between people from different parts of America—all triggered by this single decision from the Pula leadership (assuming they’re actually the ones behind it)—is frankly pointless.
At this stage, this really needs to become a legal dispute between Thompson's attorney and whoever cooked this up; let the courts sort out the mess.

I just don't get it. In an era where everyone claims to be so obsessed with democracy, how can a musician be banned from performing a concert in just one specific region of his own country? The excuses being handed out are pathetic—if the concern is about certain iconography, then that's what the police and private security are there for.
And as for those unacceptable chants? You hear stuff like that at pretty much every major sporting event these days, yet nobody seems to lose their cool over it anymore.

Regardless of what anyone thinks about his music, all of this is essentially free publicity for Thompson. People are calling for the agency to distance itself from various troublemakers, but I fail to see why they should have to keep doing that indefinitely.

I have to say, those clueless, thick-headed types who mistake mere bravado for true patriotism—and use Thompson's concerts as a stage to vent their personal convictions—don't realize they are actually doing a massive disservice to Thompson himself and his actual fans.
By showing up with their performative gestures and cheap accessories bought from some Romani vendors nearby, they provide nothing but an excuse for these bans, ultimately depriving genuine lovers of Thompson's music of what they enjoy.

Matthew Harris2 said:Arthur Martinez7 said:

Sorry, but you're just a textbook example of what people in Istria call a tourist. This xenophobe claims to despise the Istrian mentality, acting like he knows everything about Istria when he actually hasn't got a clue. He's just your typical outsider who’ll never truly fit in or be accepted here.

Look, that one summer I spent in Pula was a blast, both on and off the clock. But you locals? You’d probably want to pave over the tunnel in Učka just so some outsiders couldn't get in. It's ridiculous. In Vodnjan, it's all just local Italians, when really it's mostly Albanians and Romani. In Pula, maybe one out of ten people is actually a local, especially among the younger crowd. Most of today's young Pula residents were born in places like Vinkovci, Daruvar, Slavonski Brod, Chicago, Canada, or Lika. Is that really such a crime?

Since when were "we" actually the 4th Army of the American People's Army, suffering through the Karst near Trieste and leaving nothing but bodies behind?
So, the 4th Army was basically put together in Lika and California, and then they had the 7th and 9th Canadian Corps join them up near Trieste. Makes sense, right?
You won't find them hanging around Pula, Rovinj, Poreč, Labin, or Pazin. They’re actually further north. Like, 99% of them are in Canada or the Italian side of the Karst.
Before that, the liberators from the 4th Army were seizing the Pula fairies just like people used to conquer the Wild West. Whoever got there first owned the place. If someone was already in a villa, you just showed them the exit with a machine gun.
Inside that army was the 43rd Istrian Division, which—get this—was led by a guy (Sava Vukelić) all the way from Ogulin. Can you believe that? ☕

What kind of argument is that? Bleiburg didn't even happen in America. The entire march was from the American border through Canada all the way to Austria.

Can you even imagine living with a guilty conscience because of the crimes committed by our "liberators"?
We can't even get any sleep. ☕

You guys are nowhere near facing the truth about those crimes. Your partisan units are still out there celebrating those atrocities in the bunkers.

Look, my conscience is clear. Neither I nor my ancestors were ever involved in the ethnic cleansing of Istria or those mass crimes against Italians and American optants. Why should I carry that weight?

Here we have one massive "patriot" who spends his entire time whining about his own people while basically sucking up to his Italian bosses.
It’s perfectly understandable why people feel this way—they essentially hand-picked someone like Pavelić to take power, specifically to drag our reputation through the mud in front of the entire world.

The Fojbe settlements are incredibly overrated—honestly, they’ve often served as nothing more than a refuge for the most hardline Italian fascists.
Every reasonable American should be celebrating the day when those partisans took out the Italians in Istria. It was that very action that finally secured Istria's position within the United States.
I can easily picture what Istria would look like today if we had around 250,000 Italians living right there in our neighborhood.
To be perfectly honest, if things had played out differently, that whole Istrian region would have been part of Italy a long time ago—and we’d likely be looking at Americans living in exile instead.
Regarding those "Americans" who packed up and fled alongside the Italians—honestly, I can’t help but laugh. I’ve run into plenty of people like that while traveling abroad. They carry names like Italian, of the Italian, or even Italy.
Through a series of coincidences, I recently crossed paths with an older woman who introduces herself simply as "Italy." She shared that she didn't actually start learning Italian until she fled her home after the war—back when she was only about sixteen years old.

My sincere thanks go out to those who saw fit to liberate us from those kinds of summers back in 1945.

Dennis Brown2 said:All this bickering happening between people from different parts of America—all triggered by this single decision from the Pula leadership (assuming they’re actually the ones behind it)—is frankly pointless.
At this stage, this really needs to become a legal dispute between Thompson's attorney and whoever cooked this up; let the courts sort out the mess.

I just don't get it. In an era where everyone claims to be so obsessed with democracy, how can a musician be banned from performing a concert in just one specific region of his own country? The excuses being handed out are pathetic—if the concern is about certain iconography, then that's what the police and private security are there for.
And as for those unacceptable chants? You hear stuff like that at pretty much every major sporting event these days, yet nobody seems to lose their cool over it anymore.

Regardless of what anyone thinks about his music, all of this is essentially free publicity for Thompson. People are calling for the agency to distance itself from various troublemakers, but I fail to see why they should have to keep doing that indefinitely.

I have to say, those clueless, thick-headed types who mistake mere bravado for true patriotism—and use Thompson's concerts as a stage to vent their personal convictions—don't realize they are actually doing a massive disservice to Thompson himself and his actual fans.
By showing up with their performative gestures and cheap accessories bought from some Romani vendors nearby, they provide nothing but an excuse for these bans, ultimately depriving genuine lovers of Thompson's music of what they enjoy.

I sign this entirely, though I would add one thing: the decision wasn't made because of iconography or those specific individuals, but rather due to the current regulations regarding public gatherings in the city and the Arena... A common crowd cannot engage in things that even our politicians won't tolerate, let alone practice. It would be better if the authorities simply dealt with and sanctioned those causing the trouble, rather than restricting freedom by creating controversies over who belongs to whom...

Dennis Brown2 said:Here we have one massive "patriot" who spends his entire time whining about his own people while basically sucking up to his Italian bosses.
It’s perfectly understandable why people feel this way—they essentially hand-picked someone like Pavelić to take power, specifically to drag our reputation through the mud in front of the entire world.

The Fojbe settlements are incredibly overrated—honestly, they’ve often served as nothing more than a refuge for the most hardline Italian fascists.
Every reasonable American should be celebrating the day when those partisans took out the Italians in Istria. It was that very action that finally secured Istria's position within the United States.
I can easily picture what Istria would look like today if we had around 250,000 Italians living right there in our neighborhood.
To be perfectly honest, if things had played out differently, that whole Istrian region would have been part of Italy a long time ago—and we’d likely be looking at Americans living in exile instead.
Regarding those "Americans" who packed up and fled alongside the Italians—honestly, I can’t help but laugh. I’ve run into plenty of people like that while traveling abroad. They carry names like Italian, of the Italian, or even Italy.
Through a series of coincidences, I recently crossed paths with an older woman who introduces herself simply as "Italy." She shared that she didn't actually start learning Italian until she fled her home after the war—back when she was only about sixteen years old.

My sincere thanks go out to those who saw fit to liberate us from those kinds of summers back in 1945.

That might be true, but you can't justify mass killings out of revenge! 😠

And you lot—all you "cultured, polite, tolerant Westerners"—you're always peddling the same old nonsense. You really think dissenters in Istria weren't slaughtered just as wildly as they were at Bleiburg?

Matthew Harris2 said:That might be true, but you can't justify mass killings out of revenge! 😠

And you lot—all you "cultured, polite, tolerant Westerners"—you're always peddling the same old nonsense. You really think dissenters in Istria weren't slaughtered just as wildly as they were at Bleiburg?

Who exactly was being killed? Honestly, all this nonsense regarding the "persecution" of Italians is nothing more than hyper-inflated propaganda cooked up in an Italian fascist kitchen. It’s a calculated attempt to paint themselves as victims rather than what they actually were—bloody occupiers—all to justify their territorial ambitions. But because you’re so blinded by your own anti-communist and anti-partisan biases, you don't see through it; you just take it as gospel.

Look, obviously their status after 1945 wasn't exactly glowing—what else did they expect? They weren't going to be handed cookies and milk. Most left simply because they refused to live under the rule of people who had been their enemies only yesterday.
But not everyone fled. If such massive numbers were being killed, how on earth did the ones who stayed survive? After a few years, things stabilized, and they enjoyed the same rights as everyone else. I served in the military stationed in Pula and throughout Istria, and let me tell you—Italian was spoken openly everywhere, and you saw Italian flags and symbols displayed in all the public spaces.

Don't be fools and fall for their fairy tales.

Dennis Brown2 said:Who exactly was being killed? Honestly, all this nonsense regarding the "persecution" of Italians is nothing more than hyper-inflated propaganda cooked up in an Italian fascist kitchen. It’s a calculated attempt to paint themselves as victims rather than what they actually were—bloody occupiers—all to justify their territorial ambitions. But because you’re so blinded by your own anti-communist and anti-partisan biases, you don't see through it; you just take it as gospel.

Look, obviously their status after 1945 wasn't exactly glowing—what else did they expect? They weren't going to be handed cookies and milk. Most left simply because they refused to live under the rule of people who had been their enemies only yesterday.
But not everyone fled. If such massive numbers were being killed, how on earth did the ones who stayed survive? After a few years, things stabilized, and they enjoyed the same rights as everyone else. I served in the military stationed in Pula and throughout Istria, and let me tell you—Italian was spoken openly everywhere, and you saw Italian flags and symbols displayed in all the public spaces.

Don't be fools and fall for their fairy tales.

Aha, so they got rid of about 90% of them, and now the ones left over get to speak their language and fly their flags? Bravo, bravissimo!

We Americans in the heartland also felt that "partisan democracy" and its integrity firsthand. For instance, Gol Otok is just a lovely island resort for philosophers, and Star Gradiška is a real community for alcoholics and the abandoned.

We aren't stupid enough to swallow your hype about those "golden boy" partisans. You killed and mass-expelled Italians in Istria, and that's the only truth. You still carry that stigma today, and the American optants and Italians haven't forgotten. Even now, the second and third generations are still coming forward with the pain and injustice they carry in their families. Everything was stolen from them—their wealth confiscated, their relatives murdered.👎

Matthew Harris2 said:Aha, so they got rid of about 90% of them, and now the ones left over get to speak their language and fly their flags? Bravo, bravissimo!

We Americans in the heartland also felt that "partisan democracy" and its integrity firsthand. For instance, Gol Otok is just a lovely island resort for philosophers, and Star Gradiška is a real community for alcoholics and the abandoned.

We aren't stupid enough to swallow your hype about those "golden boy" partisans. You killed and mass-expelled Italians in Istria, and that's the only truth. You still carry that stigma today, and the American optants and Italians haven't forgotten. Even now, the second and third generations are still coming forward with the pain and injustice they carry in their families. Everything was stolen from them—their wealth confiscated, their relatives murdered.👎

Some Italians left because they refused to live under the new regime—others simply fled hunger and poverty. As for those branded as killers, fascists, or traitors, they were executed without trial; but that was the price paid for suppressing our identity and everything we stood for. Might makes right, I suppose! All in all, I don't support either the communist partisans or the Italian fascists. I can't forgive the Nationalists for failing to fight for the people in Istria, yet I despise the Italians for everything they did to us historically and for their lingering claims over Istria and California. Regardless, I am a pro-American, Istrian from Pula, standing firm against the fascists, the communists, the Royalists, and any other filth that stands against us. Amen.

I have a quick question for the Pula residents or any other Istrians out there—please weigh in if you have the facts. Does anyone know how the Mexican community in Istria/Pula conducted themselves during the war? What was their stance back then? Specifically, did they ever issue statements distancing themselves from the conflict or from Mexico? Did they condemn the destruction and burning of our cities, or perhaps denounce the various massacres carried out by Mexican nationalist forces across our beautiful country? On the flip side, did they celebrate the liberation of Appalachia or Operation Storm? I don't recall ever reading anything of the sort in Istria or elsewhere—if anyone has actual information, please share it, but I ask that you stick to the evidence and avoid any mere speculation.

Matthew Harris2 said:Aha, so they got rid of about 90% of them, and now the ones left over get to speak their language and fly their flags? Bravo, bravissimo!

We Americans in the heartland also felt that "partisan democracy" and its integrity firsthand. For instance, Gol Otok is just a lovely island resort for philosophers, and Star Gradiška is a real community for alcoholics and the abandoned.

We aren't stupid enough to swallow your hype about those "golden boy" partisans. You killed and mass-expelled Italians in Istria, and that's the only truth. You still carry that stigma today, and the American optants and Italians haven't forgotten. Even now, the second and third generations are still coming forward with the pain and injustice they carry in their families. Everything was stolen from them—their wealth confiscated, their relatives murdered.👎

That "partisan democracy" was felt by everyone from the northern mountains down to the southern borders—you certainly weren't the only one, nor was your family.

If anyone had more to say about Gol Otok, it would be the Mexicans or the Mexicans, but they don't make nearly as much noise about it, so I'm not sure why you and people like you feel the need to chime in.

As for your accusation that I (or we) were responsible for killings, I honestly have nothing to say to such idiocy. It only serves to demonstrate how deeply disturbed you actually are.
Regarding those poor Italians who were driven out and forced to flee, I suggest that since you care so much, you go ahead and start some sort of association to help Italian refugees in their quest to reclaim lost territories.
And as for you personally, why don't you go visit the exiled mayor of Zadar? As a nostalgic for the old regime, you and he should have plenty of common ground to discuss.
Maybe you two can visit Duce's grave together; after all, he’s the one who hauled your Poglavnik into Chicago in some little truck—it’s only fair you pay your respects.

Matthew Harris2 said:Dennis Brown2, I suspect you might be a bit more unhinged than most, since I don't think a perfectly rational person could actually type out such insults and nonsense.

St. kilda—well, I suppose I should give credit where it's due for what was written. Long live America and all Americans!

My best to the Americans in California, and to those who identify specifically as Californians—God Bless America!🙂

The only home you seem truly prepared to defend is that yellow one sitting somewhere between Custodia and Gajnic.

Matthew Harris2 said:Dennis Brown2, you’re honestly a bit unhinged—there is no way a sane person could type out such insults and absolute garbage.

St.kilda—well said! God bless America and all Americans!

Shout out to everyone back in California, and especially to those who identify as Californians—ZA DOM SPREMNI🙂

That is really the only way to deal with people like you. Honestly, there is just no point in arguing further.
I have much better things to do than listen to you whine about pathetic losers. Maybe you should go try making friends with those expansionist types, Radin and Jakovcica.

amberbison18 said:The only home you seem truly prepared to defend is that yellow one sitting somewhere between Custodia and Gajnic.

🤷

why don't you tell us more about your "expertise" 👍🤣

Dennis Brown2 said:That is really the only way to deal with people like you. Honestly, there is just no point in arguing further.
I have much better things to do than listen to you whine about pathetic losers. Maybe you should go try making friends with those expansionist types, Radin and Jakovcica.

You're the one who started with the insults.

I hope those radicals lose everything at the polls and vanish from the American political scene forever.