Anyone here diagnosed with ASPD or psychopathic personality traits?

So, just out of pure curiosity—and don't judge me for asking—does anyone here actually have this? Like, does anyone else deal with it? And if you do, how do you even process everything that hits you? It would be really cool if someone could open up a bit and describe what they’re going through personally and what their headspace is like right now.

I seem to recall a psychiatrist on Sunday Night Football once mentioning that psychopaths are actually incredibly common. He argued they aren't even really "sick," just... built that way. I think he estimated they make up about 60% of the population.😲
And there was something else. When a student asked him to weigh in on a case involving a schizophrenic patient—someone supposedly dangerous to the public who was being released for the weekend—she was horrified at the idea of him walking free and potentially hurting someone. His response was pretty blunt. He told her that people only believe those fears because they’re raised on stories claiming the mentally ill are more violent. In reality, I guess healthy people commit much more frequent acts of violence.😲🙏

p.s. If anyone reading this struggles with schizophrenia, please don't take this as me labeling you as dangerous or a killer. I'm not trying to offend anyone. This was just about that specific instance. Best.

Carl Adams4 said:So, just out of pure curiosity—and don't judge me for asking—does anyone here actually have this? Like, does anyone else deal with it? And if you do, how do you even process everything that hits you? It would be really cool if someone could open up a bit and describe what they’re going through personally and what their headspace is like right now.

That’s naive, really... some of them can fool even a psychiatrist without breaking a sweat. And you aren't going to get a single person like that to open up about how they perceive things... not unless they decide to explain it to you themselves. Which, let's be honest, isn't something you'd particularly enjoy hearing.

Amanda Stewart7 said:That’s naive, really... some of them can fool even a psychiatrist without breaking a sweat. And you aren't going to get a single person like that to open up about how they perceive things... not unless they decide to explain it to you themselves. Which, let's be honest, isn't something you'd particularly enjoy hearing.

Wait, why is that naive?

Look, this is a forum—I figured it shouldn't be such a big deal to mention if someone is dealing with a specific diagnosis.

If it's too awkward for public, anyone who fits that description can just shoot me a DM.

Carl Adams4 said:Wait, why is that naive?

Look, this is a forum—I figured it shouldn't be such a big deal to mention if someone is dealing with a specific diagnosis.

If it's too awkward for public, anyone who fits that description can just shoot me a DM.

But why?😂

You think they’d ever actually admit to being psychopaths? Personally, I doubt they’d even own up to it to themselves. I can't wrap my head around that kind of mindset—but I guess to them, it’s just business as usual...

Alex Barnes8 said:I seem to recall a psychiatrist on Sunday Night Football once mentioning that psychopaths are actually incredibly common. He argued they aren't even really "sick," just... built that way. I think he estimated they make up about 60% of the population.😲
And there was something else. When a student asked him to weigh in on a case involving a schizophrenic patient—someone supposedly dangerous to the public who was being released for the weekend—she was horrified at the idea of him walking free and potentially hurting someone. His response was pretty blunt. He told her that people only believe those fears because they’re raised on stories claiming the mentally ill are more violent. In reality, I guess healthy people commit much more frequent acts of violence.😲🙏

p.s. If anyone reading this struggles with schizophrenia, please don't take this as me labeling you as dangerous or a killer. I'm not trying to offend anyone. This was just about that specific instance. Best.

From what I gather, psychopathy is strictly an emotional deficit, while intelligence often stays well above average. At first glance, you wouldn't notice a thing because traits like aggression or being antisocial seem pretty standard in today's world. 🙄 😁 They're basically human robots—driven by a sheer will to dominate everyone else. They operate almost entirely on instinct; they're blunt, impulsive, and forceful. It’s all about control. They lack empathy, morals, and emotional depth, but since their intellect remains sharp, you can't easily outmaneuver them.

They don't need sympathy or support. Feelings don't touch them, and moral arguments fall on deaf ears.

It’s unlikely anyone with that diagnosis would ever admit they have a problem.🤔

I’m more preoccupied with that 60% figure. Is that even realistic? I mean, the guest was a psychiatrist with decades of experience, someone who’s spent a lifetime dealing with the most intense cases and actually writes books about it... I guess, maybe, he knows what he’s talking about.

Perhaps his point was simply that we all have a breaking point, and everyone carries their own specific fuse length. Some just snap faster than others.

They don't even need to lose their minds to pull this off. I guess that's just how they operate. They treat malice like it's nothing out of the ordinary. Even the way they look at people... it's like you're already worth less than them from the start. That's just how they approach things.

Roughly speaking, they just operate on a different set of "principles" than everyone else...😁

I know someone like that. Actually, I know quite a few, though with this particular individual, it’s just incredibly obvious (I’m starting to think that 60 percent statistic is actually accurate). A constant urge to manipulate, sociopathy—if that's even the right term—and general antisocial behavior are all major red flags. These types of people genuinely enjoy psychologically abusing others and forcing their own rules on everyone else: it’s their way or the highway. They specifically hunt for people they perceive as weaker just so they can treat them however they please. If a victim finally stands up to them, they won't chase after them, because they already know there's another target out there to terrorize. But if that abused person ever tries to come back, the psychopath will welcome them with open arms, simply because they need someone they can torment and enjoy breaking.
Pyromania, sadism, and pure destructiveness are just a few other examples of psychopathic traits.

Alex Barnes8 said:I’m more preoccupied with that 60% figure. Is that even realistic? I mean, the guest was a psychiatrist with decades of experience, someone who’s spent a lifetime dealing with the most intense cases and actually writes books about it... I guess, maybe, he knows what he’s talking about.

It’s always smart to take an authority figure's word with a grain of salt. It's clearly just a rough estimate, since there's zero info on what kind of methodology led to those numbers. Was this regarding Dr. Klain on Sunday Night Football?

I can't quite recall the name. It’s been a long time. That was back when Stanković still had students on his show.

...there are these personality assessments designed to gauge how much someone leans toward certain disorders—basically measuring which direction they tilt... obviously, that doesn't mean those traits ever actually manifest in reality... but look at it this way: given the right set of circumstances, one person might exhibit schizophrenic tendencies, another phobias, someone else depressive or paranoid traits, manic episodes... or maybe a messy cocktail of all of them... I’m certainly no expert here, but I’ve taken these tests myself—I was essentially a guinea pig in some studies once... what they really do is pinpoint the potential trajectory a person might take if they were to finally snap or lose their mind... haha... that’s a bit blunt, perhaps, a crude way of putting it... but even Klain pointed out that there is a specific percentage of people who possess a predisposition toward psychopathy... and yet, 99 percent of them just stay in that state of "inclination"... if that weren't the case, the world would be an absolute madhouse... though, honestly, we aren't all that far off from that right now...

So, if you don't mind me asking, what did you end up getting?😉

-Personally, I don't buy this 60% figure for a second. That would mean psychopaths outnumber healthy people... which is impossible. Not to mention what that implies about the rest of us—that we're all just chronically psychopathic by predisposition or some other diagnosis. At that point, there’s no "healthy middle" left.
So, just to add to the checklist for spotting them:
1-smooth talkers with an incredible amount of charm
2-grandiose self-confidence (way too cocky without any actual basis)
3-constant boredom or thrill-seeking (gamblers, black-and-white thinkers)
4-chronic, expert lying
5-manipulation and fraud
6-zero emotion or remorse (or they just fake it because they're good actors)
7-shallow feelings (totally unprepared for marriage/kids, etc.)
8-total lack of empathy (cold as stone)
9-parasitic lifestyle
10-poor impulse control and zero tolerance
11-promiscuous sexual behavior
12-no long-term goals or plans (just living day-to-day)
13-irresponsibility and impulsivity
14-refusal to take responsibility for their own actions
15-countless short-term flings, affairs, or even marriages
16-multi-layered criminal tendencies
19-violating parole (reckless and immature)
etc....
-For example, there are millions of them. They're in our neighborhoods, on the streets, among friends, in politicians, lawyers—basically, everywhere in professional and social structures. I've been screwed over, cheated, and burned myself plenty of times.
-Look, if I started analyzing every single point here, I'd be here all day.😁
-There isn't exactly a cure for these people, so—stay away. Avoid them at all costs...

hollowtinker18 🙏🙏🙏

60% !!!!!!!!!????????

I mean, maybe having 60% of psychiatrists being totally out of touch isn't exactly "normal" 😂

Honestly, sometimes these shrink doctors feel more like street dealers to me. It’s like they just want to pump you full of heavy—well, legal—drugs. I guess if they can just label more people as crazy, it just makes their market even bigger, right?

An economist with some pretty rough experiences with psychiatry

jadehound28 said:60% !!!!!!!!!????????

I mean, maybe having 60% of psychiatrists being totally out of touch isn't exactly "normal" 😂

Honestly, sometimes these shrink doctors feel more like street dealers to me. It’s like they just want to pump you full of heavy—well, legal—drugs. I guess if they can just label more people as crazy, it just makes their market even bigger, right?

An economist with some pretty rough experiences with psychiatry

That percentage is definitely inflated. People always throw around that 30% figure for general psychological issues, but if you actually look at personality disorders specifically, we're probably looking at a few percent—which feels much more realistic.