What's with the "spiritual gurus" on this forum!?

Here is how I see it:

People keep diving into these spiritual and psychological topics. Some just do it to stir the pot, mostly because they get a kick out of provoking people who think they’re smarter than everyone else—people who claim to see things others supposedly miss.

-Then there are those searching for a kindred spirit, someone to speak their "spiritual language," just so they can feel validated while arguing with everyone else.

-And we have these self-proclaimed "spiritualists" and "scientists" who basically spend their entire lives theorizing until it reaches a point of absurdity... it honestly becomes embarrassing for them.

I get the ones who make it obvious they're just here for the attention, using vulgarity to trigger reactions. But I don't quite understand the ones who present themselves as being so level-headed, only to immediately discredit themselves by engaging in cheap bickering with "their own kind" or anyone on the "other side."

Is it possible to imagine a scenario where people discussing spirituality would simply ignore those trying to grab attention through infantile outbursts?
Would that say something about the maturity of that group?

Maybe these "spiritualists" are just stuck in this loop of fighting with "us" versus "them" because it feels more exciting than actually caring about other people's experiences.

What does the "Spirituality" PDF actually represent?

I’m just here to steer you young, uninitiated souls toward the light with my endless ocean of wisdom. As for the rest of you, I can't help you 😛

Spiritual gurus don't usually hang out in internet comment sections, so what's your deal 🤣

silentcyclist3 said:Here is how I see it:

People keep diving into these spiritual and psychological topics. Some just do it to stir the pot, mostly because they get a kick out of provoking people who think they’re smarter than everyone else—people who claim to see things others supposedly miss.

-Then there are those searching for a kindred spirit, someone to speak their "spiritual language," just so they can feel validated while arguing with everyone else.

-And we have these self-proclaimed "spiritualists" and "scientists" who basically spend their entire lives theorizing until it reaches a point of absurdity... it honestly becomes embarrassing for them.

I get the ones who make it obvious they're just here for the attention, using vulgarity to trigger reactions. But I don't quite understand the ones who present themselves as being so level-headed, only to immediately discredit themselves by engaging in cheap bickering with "their own kind" or anyone on the "other side."

Is it possible to imagine a scenario where people discussing spirituality would simply ignore those trying to grab attention through infantile outbursts?
Would that say something about the maturity of that group?

Maybe these "spiritualists" are just stuck in this loop of fighting with "us" versus "them" because it feels more exciting than actually caring about other people's experiences.

What does the "Spirituality" PDF actually represent?

Since you felt the urge to perform such deep self-analysis, why not share something useful with the general public? Surely there is some practice you could articulate and actually make sense of.

silentcyclist3 said:Here is how I see it:

People keep diving into these spiritual and psychological topics. Some just do it to stir the pot, mostly because they get a kick out of provoking people who think they’re smarter than everyone else—people who claim to see things others supposedly miss.

-Then there are those searching for a kindred spirit, someone to speak their "spiritual language," just so they can feel validated while arguing with everyone else.

-And we have these self-proclaimed "spiritualists" and "scientists" who basically spend their entire lives theorizing until it reaches a point of absurdity... it honestly becomes embarrassing for them.

I get the ones who make it obvious they're just here for the attention, using vulgarity to trigger reactions. But I don't quite understand the ones who present themselves as being so level-headed, only to immediately discredit themselves by engaging in cheap bickering with "their own kind" or anyone on the "other side."

Is it possible to imagine a scenario where people discussing spirituality would simply ignore those trying to grab attention through infantile outbursts?
Would that say something about the maturity of that group?

Maybe these "spiritualists" are just stuck in this loop of fighting with "us" versus "them" because it feels more exciting than actually caring about other people's experiences.

What does the "Spirituality" PDF actually represent?

A collection for the collectors.

jademarlin26 said:Since you felt the urge to perform such deep self-analysis, why not share something useful with the general public? Surely there is some practice you could articulate and actually make sense of.

A collection for the collectors.

😕

Please don't waste your time or mine. It feels... futile.

silentcyclist3 said:Here is how I see it:

People keep diving into these spiritual and psychological topics. Some just do it to stir the pot, mostly because they get a kick out of provoking people who think they’re smarter than everyone else—people who claim to see things others supposedly miss.

-Then there are those searching for a kindred spirit, someone to speak their "spiritual language," just so they can feel validated while arguing with everyone else.

-And we have these self-proclaimed "spiritualists" and "scientists" who basically spend their entire lives theorizing until it reaches a point of absurdity... it honestly becomes embarrassing for them.

I get the ones who make it obvious they're just here for the attention, using vulgarity to trigger reactions. But I don't quite understand the ones who present themselves as being so level-headed, only to immediately discredit themselves by engaging in cheap bickering with "their own kind" or anyone on the "other side."

Is it possible to imagine a scenario where people discussing spirituality would simply ignore those trying to grab attention through infantile outbursts?
Would that say something about the maturity of that group?

Maybe these "spiritualists" are just stuck in this loop of fighting with "us" versus "them" because it feels more exciting than actually caring about other people's experiences.

What does the "Spirituality" PDF actually represent?

It just stands for whatever you decide it stands for, really... and if someone else looks at the exact same thing and sees something completely different, well, that’s just how it goes.
And honestly, there's nothing wrong with that, because we aren't all cut from the same cloth, our interests don't line up perfectly, and we obviously don't approach every single topic with the same mindset...
I really don't get why people obsess so much over how everyone else chooses to communicate. 🤷 At the end of the day, we always have the freedom to choose for ourselves who we want to engage with and whose ideas we actually want to share...

nitko_i_nista said:There aren't "those kinds" of spiritual leaders. Spiritual leaders are exactly what you described. There isn't really a need for quotes, because they're all the same. Hypocrites.

I can't get behind the "everyone" category. I guess I find the idea that everyone is one way or another to be a bit immature.

rustymaker5 said:It just stands for whatever you decide it stands for, really... and if someone else looks at the exact same thing and sees something completely different, well, that’s just how it goes.
And honestly, there's nothing wrong with that, because we aren't all cut from the same cloth, our interests don't line up perfectly, and we obviously don't approach every single topic with the same mindset...
I really don't get why people obsess so much over how everyone else chooses to communicate. 🤷 At the end of the day, we always have the freedom to choose for ourselves who we want to engage with and whose ideas we actually want to share...

I agree.

question:

Have you ever tried buying bread at a Best Buy?

silentcyclist3 said:I agree.

question:

Have you ever tried buying bread at a Best Buy?

You know that old joke where this guy who can barely get a word out stumbles into a donut shop and manages to stutter through asking if they have 100 donuts? And the clerk just tells him, "No, we don't."
The next day, the guy shows up again, struggling through the same question, "Do you have 100 donuts?" and the clerk repeats, "Nope, we don't."
On the third day, he’s back again, tripping over his words with the exact same request, and the frustrated worker gives him the same answer...
Then on the fourth day, the guy walks in, and before he can even breathe, the clerk shouts, "Yeah, we've got 100 donuts!"
And what's the point of all that?... the guy stammers.

😉

rustymaker5 said:You know that old joke where this guy who can barely get a word out stumbles into a donut shop and manages to stutter through asking if they have 100 donuts? And the clerk just tells him, "No, we don't."
The next day, the guy shows up again, struggling through the same question, "Do you have 100 donuts?" and the clerk repeats, "Nope, we don't."
On the third day, he’s back again, tripping over his words with the exact same request, and the frustrated worker gives him the same answer...
Then on the fourth day, the guy walks in, and before he can even breathe, the clerk shouts, "Yeah, we've got 100 donuts!"
And what's the point of all that?... the guy stammers.

😉

🙂

silentcyclist3 said:Here is how I see it:

People keep diving into these spiritual and psychological topics. Some just do it to stir the pot, mostly because they get a kick out of provoking people who think they’re smarter than everyone else—people who claim to see things others supposedly miss.

-Then there are those searching for a kindred spirit, someone to speak their "spiritual language," just so they can feel validated while arguing with everyone else.

-And we have these self-proclaimed "spiritualists" and "scientists" who basically spend their entire lives theorizing until it reaches a point of absurdity... it honestly becomes embarrassing for them.

I get the ones who make it obvious they're just here for the attention, using vulgarity to trigger reactions. But I don't quite understand the ones who present themselves as being so level-headed, only to immediately discredit themselves by engaging in cheap bickering with "their own kind" or anyone on the "other side."

Is it possible to imagine a scenario where people discussing spirituality would simply ignore those trying to grab attention through infantile outbursts?
Would that say something about the maturity of that group?

Maybe these "spiritualists" are just stuck in this loop of fighting with "us" versus "them" because it feels more exciting than actually caring about other people's experiences.

What does the "Spirituality" PDF actually represent?

You haven't quite told us which one of these crowds you belong to yet, have you?

Edward Flores4 said:You haven't quite told us which one of these crowds you belong to yet, have you?

Maybe none of them, or maybe all of them.

I guess you should just stop being such a bigot.

Hold on a second... you’re out here sorting the rest of US into little categories, yet somehow you don't fit into any of them... and then I'm the one being labeled a racist? 😁

Yeah, that actually makes total sense. 🙂

Edward Flores4 said:Hold on a second... you’re out here sorting the rest of US into little categories, yet somehow you don't fit into any of them... and then I'm the one being labeled a racist? 😁

Yeah, that actually makes total sense. 🙂

That’s exactly what bothers me—how everyone forces themselves into these rigid categories.
I was just trying to address that in my opening post.

Making shallow comments isn't going to make you look any tougher...

jademarlin26 said:Since you felt the urge to perform such deep self-analysis, why not share something useful with the general public? Surely there is some practice you could articulate and actually make sense of.

A collection for the collectors.

I mean, drawers are fine by me.

It’s basically just about having good—or bad—judgment,
putting everything where it belongs.
If you screw up, you're the one
stuck in the mess because you didn't organize right.;-)

They work fine for me too, provided they're used to cramming gear into instead of people.

hmmm..🤔
just people... yeah!
like, maybe just shove some of them into a lower drawer, and put the others in a higher one.
then there’s no drama, because you know exactly (assuming your gut feeling is right)
what you can expect from who, so you can't even get mad, since it's all just about
your own judgment. or whatever.

One shouldn't go expecting much. It is a common, and often costly, mistake.

just an error because I misjudged things, I guess.

It seems we are clearly not on the same page, but I suppose it is just one of those days. Let's just move past it. 🙂

Maybe you actually nailed it this time
at least when it comes to today. ;-)